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Field ReportIt Shouldn't Be This Easy... (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table

Summary: Ex-plate jeorpadises her marriage and family life for...honestly, who the fuck knows?

Body

Had a plate back in high school. HB7 then; beautiful eyes and face, good body. Throughout the last six months of school, and for a while after we finished, she tried to extract commitment from me, but it just never happened.

Meanwhile, she had a boyfriend of two years who'd moved to a neighbouring job to do his engines degree. She would alternate between home and visiting this guy. On one of her trips, she texted me all this shit about how much she loved me and that she wished she knew how i truly felt about her. I told her i valued her, but i wouldn't say anything i didn't feel just 'cause she'd said it first. Radio silence after that, and when she came back she told me her boyfriend had discovered her chats with me and been livid that she would degrade herself to the extent of sleeping and falling in love with a guy who didn't care about her(Hello, pedestal) But of course, he took her back, and, being the prideless individual he is, proposed a few months later. She told me the night he popped the question, saying that this was my last chance to have her; after this she would be a married woman who would be faithful to her husband. I told her that he was best for her, and to accept. We had sporadic contact for a while afterward, but at some point it stopped being fun and i stopped responding. That was about two years ago; cold turkey until a few days ago.

I was laying on the couch, trying to catch an afternoon nap(Literal all-night sex with the ovulating LTR) I get a text from an unknown number.

Random Number: I can't believe you haven't made an effort to find me in all this time. You are an asshole.

MeThis is?

Random Number It's RM.

I stop and ask myself why. Why is a married woman contacting me after two years? Let's see.

Me Oh...hey

RM: Hey yourself. How you been? It's been so long. I miss you.

Me: Oh?

RM: Yeah. I never wanted to tell you because you have a huge ego, along with other huge things(I'm average, btw) but you have always held my heart and you are one in a million.

Me: What about your husband?

RM: He is an angel, always helping with the baby(what baby?) and takes care of all my needs. But i've never felt a fire for him.

I try to deflect from this, just to see.

ME: How old is the baby?

RM: Nine months old. She ruined my figure though.

Me: Show me

RM: lol. I'm married.

Me: Show me

RM: You will have to earn them. Show me you still love me.

At this point, i'm starting to drift away, so i say 'fuck it' put the phone down and have ,my nap. I wake up 25 mins later and check my phone. There are about a dozen fucking photos of her, beginning her in a bath gown, showing one tit, showing both, teasing it off the shoulder, full frontal, side-ass shots, and a couple of pussy shots. Now, i would be remiss if i didn't state that she looks fucking bangable. Her B-cups are nice C-cups now( Thanks, breastfeeding) but everything else is as tight as i remember.

I stare at these photos for a couple of minutes, and whether it's the clarity that one gets straight after waking up or whatever, i am filled with a deep sense of disgust. Strangely enough though, my disgust is almost detached...I guess this is what scientists feel like when they confirm a theory they'd spent a while on. I decide to do see how far this can go, and i prompt her to go further. She describes in detail how she'd like me to fuck her good and come inside her, and how she is going to suck my soul out through my dick.

I read this, then look back at those photos. They're taken in her fucking matrimonial bedroom, with her standing on her goddamn matrimonial bed, with her kid's cot bed right be-fucking-side her( I think i see the baby's outline, but can't be sure). Her husband is at work right now, slaving away--as much as that applies to an engineer-- so she can stay at home and be with their kid. What is she doing? Texting an old fling about wanting to fuck him silly.

In the space of less than an hour she has risked everything she has for...something. An hour, and no investment on my part and she has forsaken her marriage vows, and broken the laws of God which she now professes to follow unerringly. AN hour and a few texts...that's how easy it was to make her show me what should be for her husband only. The worst part is, even if he finds out, he is likely to forgive her and probably blame me.Life's funny like that, i guess.


Lessons Learned: AWALT? Women are sluts? I don't know, man. Sometimes this shit just smacks you when you least expect it.


[–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 249 points250 points  (3 children)

how she is going to suck my soul out through my dick.

Careful. That might be the one true thing she said.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

No shit, she's obviously off in the head. OP could face rape charges should he go thru with it then cut her off/don't give into what she wants. The very best scenario is having a beef with her husband.

[–]conspiracyjunkie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, not with those pictures.

[–][deleted] 276 points277 points  (109 children)

If most guys only knew how easy it is to get women, they wouldn't try as hard as they do.

[–]twatbutter 143 points144 points  (91 children)

Being physically mediocre is easy-- keeping your body in shape, upping your game, and exposing yourself to social situations requires work. Much easier for a beta to stay home on friday/saturdays and just eat junk/play games/jack off, by comparison.

[–]vezokpiraka 77 points78 points  (88 children)

You don't even have to lift to get an average girl. It's enough to not be fat and have some back-bone.

It's appalling how men these days do so many dumb things.

Of course if Chad comes around you can be the alphaest alpha, but you won't be able to do anything about that.

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (26 children)

Can confirm. I'm skinny as fuck and still get girls.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (15 children)

where the fuck do you guys live?

[–]trpalternate 48 points49 points  (1 child)

Probably near the epicenter of America's obesity epidemic.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This applies anywhere, which is why PUA works at being successful with women. TRP is there for Everything else imo.

[–]PM_Me_Yo_Tits_Grrl 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Any decently populated place? Hang out with people at places you like and be likeable, and everything else follows ez. These steps can be hard to some though, bc change of identity = anxiety. Hence procrastination

[–]Stalgrim 19 points20 points  (6 children)

Fantasy land. Haven't you been?

[–]Cloughtower 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Lol, it's Saturday night and we're all at home jacking off to TRP

[–]BRENDORVEGAS 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's called Imagination Land

[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Berlin... It's so fucking easy out here, it's not even funny. The girls are all mostly attractive and healthy, and also extremely promiscious. They're the type who go on dates while having a BF, because they don't consider a dinner, movie, bar combo a date...

Want a GF though? Just talk to a single chick. There are tons and tons and tons of them... Because frankly, they all think they are single even if they are not. Want to fuck? Just go to a club and start dancing with random chicks. You don't even need to talk. Just dance, get her horny, and you're good to go. It's fucking crazy-land. The only thing you need to deal with is how these chicks have no sense of commitment at all. You can get getting hot and heavy with a chick, laying on some secluded patio, making out, then her friend will pop up and say she wants to introduce her to some of her friends she just met. And bam, that chick is gone like it's no big deal, and gone forever. Like I said, it's fucking strange and hard to get used to at first.

[–]Gawernator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

True. I was ridiculously skinny at 16-17 and still got girls

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    [–]VirgoRooster 39 points40 points  (47 children)

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    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 121 points122 points  (22 children)

    You're right, but there is more to it. The tall guy with the genetics can still have his bitch fucked by the short man who has game and a little muscle. What that means is that the tall man has it easier, but the short heavy man isn't out completely.

    However, being the short man who has fucked lots of better looking dudes, we who aren't as genetically gifted have to be better at game and have something about us that works. For me is muscle and facial symmetry coupled with massive confidence and quite effective game. I will not go for girls who aren't showing interest already, and not girls who could be supermodels (although some of them show interest), which means I don't piss everyone off. It's a case of know your limits, and don't give a fuck that you have a limit. There is no shortage of hot girls who want to fuck a man like me, she doesn't have to be some other worldly goddess, she only had to want to fuck me... While not being a hambeast.

    A 6'2 man with my game and muscle will always win over me, but that doesn't mean I have to give up and be celibate. The same girl who turns me down when he is there will fuck me when he isn't available. Side by side, he wins. On my own, I can win too.

    That is the reality of things.

    [–]HollowJoe 59 points60 points  (1 child)

    You are the attitude with which red pill draws me in. An acceptance of our limitations, shortcomings and disadvantages, but a refusal to wallow in them. To move on and improve despite these things dragging us down and to become stronger because of the hardship we face. And above all else, aversion to a victim complex like the plague.

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    It's good that you get it, many whiny bitches don't, neither do the insecure fucks who can't stand the idea that sometime else is better at something than they are. Fucking right I am an expert in many areas, but other people are experts in those areas too, they can learn it like I did. It doesn't make me less of anything.

    I've had lots of shit dumped on me in my life, but I always try to make shit better and not dwell on the shit I can't change.

    [–]singeblanc 29 points30 points  (1 child)

    being the short man who has fucked lots of better looking dudes

    Are we really not doing "phrasing" any more? Because I feel like this would be a good time to bring it back...

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Fucked up tablet. I need to proof read more now. Fuck. It was supposed to say beget looking dudes wives and girlfriends, but it was erased somewhere.

    [–]UntraceableRP 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I will not go for girls who aren't showing interest already, and not girls who could be supermodels (although some of them show interest

    By showing interest do you just mean they check you out in passing? And why not good looking supermodels?

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Well I am short, so really hot girls who get tons of attention will shit test the fuck out of me. I have better shit to do than deal with that crap on a constant basis.

    [–]J_AsapGem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Wouldn't make sense to lament on things we cannot change, we only make it a burden upon ourselves. What we can do is magnify what we do have and use it to our best ability.

    [–]freedomman0 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Money is more important than ally that

    [–]babayega 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    who has fucked lots of better looking dudes

    Are you bi? Interesting to get your perspective.

    [–]the_dwarfee 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I think he means fucked over, but that's my interpretation

    [–]1PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Highly dependable. Being short, fat or ugly will kick you down the attractiveness curb for sure. Then there are those that are good in all areas. Next there are those that are exceptional in all areas. And a mix-match of small heigth, good genetics ofcourse.

    That's your baseline and now you build on top of that with your added SMV. The level of girls that will be interested in you will differ based on your level. Increasing your SMV will just solidify your succes with those on your level and give you the chance for some hotties from time to time.

    Except for entitled bitches- but who the fuck wants those.

    [–]twatbutter 4 points5 points  (12 children)

    Not sure why you're being downvoted-- you speak the truth. Most of our biological basis for attraction comes from physical attraction as opposed to anything else. If you hear that "game, personality, etc." are what women are actually interested in, then you're hearing blue-pill fantasies that are sold via the media or other brainwashing. This is evidenced by the abundance of CC sluts in their early 20s (prime age) who only fuck top men exclusively.

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      [–]babayega 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Right in theory, but physically attractive people also have much easier time gaining confidence and game, so it snowballs.

      [–]25russianbear25 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      average girl

      depends if youre average or above

      You read the OKcupid report on how demanding girls are?

      [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      This. 100% this.

      Please realize there is a concentrated effort to emasculate men, to encourage pornography and masturbation to keep men in a state of perpetual arrested development.

      Who needs to learn game when any girl you've ever wanted is naked at your finger tips, albeit being fucked by another man, training you for the future cuckfest.

      Who needs to learn to be a man and do things yourself when the government will do EVERYTHING for you as long as you are subservient.

      Welcome to this Brave New World.

      [–]1PantsonFire1234 12 points13 points  (4 children)

      Women play hard to get horribly, they overdo it 9 out of 10 times. This one girl in particular had a habit of talking to me in short bursts. Never seemed that interested in me but just making small talk.

      Next up I hear from a friend of mine that knows this girl. The woman had been obsessing about me for weeks. Asked him about me and for advice how to approach me. I would have never known had he not told me. Had I not discovered TRP I would have probably double texted her by now.

      Women mind game a guy like crazy and then wonder why there are no attractive men. Guys end up baffled about the implied difficulty that they end up trying even harder- being none the wiser..

      [–]sorceryofthetesticle 9 points10 points  (3 children)

      It's amazing. Girls will even approach me, lots of ioi's and ask for my number or want to "hang out." I'll set up plans in a short text or two, and then they play this weird push-pull game where they act excited to hang out but then in person are completely stone faced, unreactive and uninterested in whatever I'm about, and they shit test CONSTANTLY, especially if one of their friends is near by.

      "Will you hold this for me pleeease?! :)))" (when she could just as easily set it on the table). Or, "I Love doing this with [insert orbiter name here]!" or near endless interruptions when I'm talking, or they try to skip songs I'm playing ... I don't know what the fuck that shit's about. It's happened with the past 4 women I've spent time with, and I just end up ignoring them after we go go out because it's such an unenjoyable situation.

      Yeah, my game needs a lot of work I'll admit it, that's why I'm going out... But fucking why? It's so goddamn hostile that I don't even want to get laid anymore. The best response I've had with these idiots is when I flat out said to one who tried to unload her feelings, "I don't want to talk about your stupid past, it's worthless to me." She looked at me in shock, but then she actually shut the fuck up and acted like I was interesting and funny afterward. Is this how gender relations have always been, or are these chicks fucking mutant retards designed to weed out all but the most aggressive, self interestes dudes?

      [–]1PantsonFire1234 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Women can't handle freedom and this society gives them all the freedom they can get, plus some sprinkly freedom on top- just for them because they are so special.

      The're so busy playing games and constantly testing their guys that they forget about what they bring to the table. This is a creature so sophistic and childish in nature that she won't realize how bored the guy must be feeling. I've banged girls that acting like they were the prize beforehand. One such girls body sagged so much after the pants came off that I had to look at one of my 'bimbo' posters just to cum.

      They don't even need to put an effort in it. Put some make up on, look a bit pretty and smile and laugh, that's it. Next they are telling you how you're "the lucky one" for getting to nail her. Yeah right, we're the lucky ones for getting to fuck an emote less heap of flesh. That's why TRP reminds to that "You are the prize". Women in no circumstance are. Even the hottest women are simply there to attract you sexually. If you find a girl that can still cook in this day and age- that's your unicorn.

      [–]ChadJr 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      Is an ex though so it's easier for her to hamster it." We already had sex so it doesn't count if we do it again"

      [–]circlhat 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      Its easy when the girl likes you, you make it seem as if you can walk up to any women and spit game, its super easy when the women is coming on to you.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      If most guys only knew how easy it is to get women, they wouldn't try as hard as they do.

      Like shooting fish in a barrel if you're in the top 20%.

      [–]UniversalFapture 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      But even then, it just seems to not have any affect. I suck with women . Period. After a while, you just say fuck it and just do your own thing. I wouldn't call it giving up, since my body is one of my main concerns, but you'll get tired of no results.

      It is what it is

      [–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 128 points129 points  (55 children)

      Married women are way easier than hot co-eds. Waaaay easier. Housewives are baaad.

      [–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (52 children)

      Military wives are the baddest.

      [–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 57 points58 points  (50 children)

      Most women consider military men losers. While the military is full of honorable and qualified sorts, public perception is that the military is mostly fuckups and failures who couldn't find anywhere else to go. And women are ruled by public perception.

      It's practicality a badge of honor to cheat on a loser.

      [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children)

      Most women consider military men losers.

      It depends. I find women's perspective of military men depends on her surroundings and essentially whatever is "missing" from her life. If she's had tons of alpha guys, she will be pining for beta relief. If she's been coddled by a beta provider, she's jilling to the idea of a strong, alpha male. I also think military guys (actually all guys) have a ton of confirmation bias.

      If you're a military guy, chances are you hang around girls who hang around a bunch of military guys. She is exposed to alpha guys all the time, so you get no points for that. When a guy comes along who doesn't have the distinct disadvantages of being military, he's at an advantage. She takes it for granted that men are alpha and sees a man who has everything that her old Army boyfriend didn't (e.g. higher paycheck, better career prospects, etc...).

      If you're an IT nerd, chances are you hang around liberal girls whose fathers were college-educated accountants, businessmen, lawyers, etc... She is exposed to successful guys all the time, so you get no points for that. When a guy comes along with tattoos and a bad boy attitude she melts in his arms. She takes it for granted that all men will be respectful and kind to her, and she sees a man who is everything her old beta boyfriend wasn't (e.g. assertive, sexy, alpha, etc...).

      This is where confirmation bias comes in. Eventually your girl will become accustomed to what you are and starts taking it for granted. She'll start looking for whatever you're missing. This is why I advocate having two sides. In public/sex you are alpha/dominant. In private you show some of your beta side. You basically need to be two people, because she'll never respect a man who doesn't have the respect of others, but she'll never feel comfortable with a man who she feels is completely closed off emotionally.

      [–]NormanoSilurian 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I agree, I suspect women are fundamentally looking for an alpha/beta alloy.

      [–]antariusz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The opposite works too.

      I'm an asshole, but only to her. Her parents love me. Society loves me.

      She can't get enough. Maybe she thinks she can fix me.

      [–]Another1Another1 49 points50 points  (25 children)

      I've grown up around nothing but military myself and I've only noticed this sort of sentiment from the limp wristed liberal college male crowd....pretty much 90% of women I've encountered are simply astonished by service members.

      Im pretty sure most women implicitly know that the militarys one of the last bastions of humanity left in this country.

      However. The average Blooper is disgusted and terrified by the image of "hyper masculinity" associated with the military.

      [–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (2 children)

      The problem with military relationships is women require constant emotional stimulation and male validation so guys on deployment with women back home are at high risk of getting cucked unless they have someone they trust watching their back at home.

      I had a couple of buddies in the military who went through this. Much respect to those who put their lives and pride on the line when they serve on deployment.

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      I spent a few years in the sandbox, every time I went, almost every married guy ended up coming back home to an empty house/bank account or suspicious pregnancy.

      [–]Gawernator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      That's why my dad said never get married until she had completed at least one deployment. Even then, I wouldn't these days.... Somehow it worked for him

      [–]Squeezymypenisy 26 points27 points  (3 children)

      last bastions of humanity left in this country

      I could not stop laughing when wrote that. Women cheat on military guys all the time. Yea the uniform can (emphasis on can) get you a great fuck, but don't think for a second that it guarantees that or that they won't cheat on you. It is incredibly easy to cuck soldiers. Do you also believe you are fighting for peace and justice?

      [–]Another1Another1 17 points18 points  (1 child)

      I actually meant bastion of masculinity, not humanity. My bad.

      [–]Squeezymypenisy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Maybe, but that is being steadily eroded by all of the weird new rules the military is doing due to sexual assault issues.

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        [–]Elodrian 28 points29 points  (6 children)

        I joined for an adventure.

        I stay in because western civilization is still worth protecting (despite all that "enjoy the decline" talk) and there are barbarians at the gates.

        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        if you worked in european marine military you would be literally ferrying those barbarians in (frontex). ah, what the fuck is happening...

        [–]marlybarrow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I stay in because western civilization is still worth protecting

        It's not on a battlefield that the future of Western Civilisation will be decided, but in the hearts and minds of the citizens that inhabit Western countries. E.g. German soldiers are completely helpless regarding the migrant crisis and German police are carrying out orders from their political masters to crack down on nationalist groups and to go easy on migrants/refugees.

        [–]Squeezymypenisy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        School debt is terrible. Even with a good paying job it can set you back several years if you are trying to build something. Doing the military for college or citizenship makes more sense than doing it for patriotism. How can you be patriotic for politicians and wealthy contributors? I'm no liberal and I can still see through all of that bs.

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        I joined because the Marines are one of the most feared organizations on the planet.

        Aslo, the Army estimates only 25% of Americans are fit to train bases on fitness, aptitude, and criminal history. That's just to ship to boot camp, for the Army. My Recruit platoon started with 90 recruits and graduated about 55.

        Its a competition between drill instructor teams to graduate with the smallest class in company

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Maybe you never saw that people think that because you grew up around nothing but military people like you said.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        90% of women I've encountered are simply astonished by service members.

        I tend to think that what 90% of women see when they see a man in uniform, is someone who has no trouble taking orders and will sacrifice himself for benefit of weaker people, simply for the supposed 'honor' of doing so. The long-haired pacifist may give her tingles when she's young and stupid, but there's not much more a woman could want in a beta provider than a compliant man who has no trouble exclaiming, 'Yes, ma'am/sir!'.

        [–]Another1Another1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Lol

        Well you definitely don't know what the fuck you're talking about nor do you have any grasp of why the average person joins.

        [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 9 points10 points  (2 children)

        Arch, I noticed something different. Yes in places like SF and NYC, military is looked down upon. Around the bases it can go either way, but an Army base is very different than an Air Force Base. You don't have nearly as many fuckwits in the USAF, they don't stay long because it's competitive to even be there. The Army will take anyone, and they have a problem keeping them around, the USAF can't get people to leave so they make shit up to force them out.

        Marines have both things going on, as does the Navy. It depends on if the person is a fuck up or if they have their shit and what job they do. Army is looked down upon, they're mostly fuckwits, but not entirely. If you live near an Army post, people will not like them much. Most people around an AFB have no idea is even there. The members blend in off duty,and don't get in stupid ignorant trouble. So nobody notices.

        [–]redestofthereds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        My city has an army base and while some are cool, a lot of them are douchey as fuck.

        [–]ben0wn4g3 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        In my experience only men who are losers themselves and not ballsy enough to join the military think like this.

        Edit as I know this will be taken out of context.

        Men who aren't losers often have great respect for military men. Those ballsy enough or not. I don't believe for one second every man hasn't thought about being Special Forces, y'know, to see if they got what it takes.

        I think there is a big difference between those who go for the challenge and the thrill and those who go because they can't do nothing else. And that difference will be obvious as hell to anyone with any ounce of ability to read a person.

        Being a single military man is a pretty Red Pill life I imagine.

        [–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I toyed with the idea when I was younger. I come from a long line of navy men. But I ended up doing the standard college - post grad - job route. I'm close with a good number of military guys, and it's a shame how much society shits on them and assumes they're losers.

        [–]ChinmayT2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Wow. I thought Americans are the one's who respect their military the most.

        [–]t_m_1984 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Not american, so not going to get into the whole love/hate relationship that the american public has with it's military (which is quite shameful actually)

        I do not get why it would be a badge of honor though (not saying it isnt true). These guys are risking their lives for something most of them believe in.

        [–]afkb39sdfb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        public perception is that the military is mostly fuckups and failures who couldn't find anywhere else to go.

        I spent 8 years in the Army, there are a few good ones, but is isn't far from the truth honestly.

        [–]catacamas 46 points47 points  (18 children)

        Don't be too sure that this husband will always take her back. I just kicked my wife out for cheating. She had everything, a picture-perfect life - I'm attractive, and wealthy enough that she didn't have to work a day in her life again. Now she has nothing, zero savings, and is already poring over job ads and sending her resume out. She had everything and threw it all away. For what? Because some loser player gave her gina tingles and like a 12-year old she couldn't control herself or understand that actions have consequences.

        [–]BradPill 27 points28 points  (12 children)

        It's mind-boggling. Remember she needed a year to prepare for the 'most beautiful day in her life'? Spending a car on that day? Telling the whole goddamn world how special it was? How special they were? Maybe even marrying in church, before the witness in the sky? Vows? That contract? All worth nothing, one big lie to herself, to you, her family and the whole goddamn world only for some feels that she at that moment felt she didn't get from you.

        I'm sorry for you - but in a sense you should feel blessed (assuming no kids are involved yet). Her loss. Your freedom. Keep well.

        [–]catacamas 33 points34 points  (10 children)

        (assuming no kids are involved yet)

        Two girls :( I will be doing paternity tests on them soon. Thank you for your comments, it's appreciated, this is a difficult time. I can honestly say I wish it on no man to have to look at his own baby and not be sure if it's his.

        [–]BradPill 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        I'm sorry, man. This must really hurt. And yes, that nagging uncertainty.... Still, it's not the girls' fault - can't blame them.... Keep well - I hope TRP will give you the support and insights you need.

        [–]whyalwaysm3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I wish you the best man, you seem like you have a reasonable head on your shoulders and from what I gather you went about it the right way, you didn't take her back, or beat her physically, you simply got rid of her and that's the only logical way to deal with a cheater in my opinion.

        [–]austrologi 2 points3 points  (6 children)

        I'd love to know the results. What will you do if they aren't yours?

        [–]catacamas 9 points10 points  (5 children)

        I'm not sure :/ ... I know I'll be angry. My current thinking would be to try get her (possibly through the courts if need be) to make the biological father support them. (This would likely be a legally expensive mess.)

        My older one I'm very bonded to so I may still want to raise and support her. The younger one is just a baby, IF it's not mine, harsh as it sounds, I don't actually want it.

        This may sound 'silly' but I only ever wanted 'my own' kids - I've never had any desire to raise someone else's kids, and certainly not under circumstances like this.

        The older one looks a lot like me and takes after me in many ways, so I think she's probably mine. The new baby though looks just like her mother, I don't see myself in her at all, but I don't see any other guy I know either. Also worrying, I was out of town around the time of conception ... though we did have sex before I left and when I got back. So it could be mine, but could be someone else's.

        I will try remember to let you know.

        [–]DforDeadpool 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        It's not harsh. You don't have to raise some other dude's children. You're doing the right thing. Sorry about hardships you'll go through, wish you the best.

        [–]Philhelm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        This may sound 'silly' but I only ever wanted 'my own' kids - I've never had any desire to raise someone else's kids, and certainly not under circumstances like this.

        That isn't silly at all. A child that isn't of your own blood isn't truly your legacy. If I were to find out that one of my children isn't really of my lineage, I would completely cut myself out of the previous father-daughter relationship. Actions have consequences.

        [–]austrologi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I agree with your approach. If you already bonded with the older child, she is innocent and it makes sense to keep the relationship. I'd make sure when she got older to explain to her how much of a piece of shit her mother is. Either way, the courts will probably permanently cuck you anyways as bad as that is. I wish the best for you bud.

        [–]fingerthemoon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        If you do decide to raise children that aren't yours there could be many problems you haven't considered. Especially under these circumstances.

        I wouldn't do it.

        [–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yep. Plus, another dude tapped your wife on your dime.

        [–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        David Buss said false paternity was about 10% in the US. Robert Sapolsky said false paternity is between 10-40% depending on the country.

        That's a minimum of 1 in 10 times she made her husband cuckold. And those are just the successful pregnancies that bare children.

        [–]whyalwaysm3 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Damn dude sorry to hear that. If you don't mind me asking, how did you catch her?

        [–]catacamas 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Long story short, she was behaving 'increasingly suspiciously', e.g. she'd often go 'visit her sister' or do other things and increasingly she wouldn't invite me. And there were other suspicious signs, e.g. one day she was supposedly with her sister, I couldn't get hold of her, tried to call her sister and couldn't get hold of her either - then very late at night she got back to me and told me 'sorry both their cellphone batteries died' - uh really? Alarm bells were going off in my head like crazy. Another time she was 'with her sister' and I said I want to come join them, she went to lengths to come up with bullshit reasons why I couldn't come. At the same time, she had been increasingly withdrawing intimacy from me. So one night I secretly (she doesn't know this) opened her Facebook and found messages where she was arranging hookups with this one loser player dude in our social group. I screencapped the messages but haven't done anything with them. There's a lot more, but that's the short version.

        [–]ELLEN_POO 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        She has nothing? Why couldn't she take half of the assets?

        [–]yomo86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Sorry for you man. You should write a report. I was in a diet variant of you situation aka LTR. We might learn something from you.

        [–]abdada 71 points72 points  (7 children)

        Got a lot of these over the years, and they always talk about your dick being bigger than reality. Always.

        Remember: women can't measure.

        It's nice being Chad sometimes. And it's proof you did right -- you actually met her needs that her husband can't.

        [–][deleted] 106 points107 points  (0 children)

        My dick is 8 inches when I'm dating her, 9 when I break up with her, and 4 when she realizes I'm not coming back.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 64 points65 points  (0 children)

        They develop a hooker's repertoire, pretending to gag on your dick to stroke your ego, when you know they could easily swallow an entire loaf of bread. And all that faux modesty and virtue posturing to pretend there's less milage on their cooch...

        Just smile and allow them their bluff, but don't ever buy into it.

        [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        Remember Feelz > Realz . If her hindbrain sees you as Alpha, you have the biggest cock in the world.

        [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (2 children)

        A woman would prefer a 4 incher and tingles than a cervix thrashing 9 incher without tingles. If men could just realize how much more important emotional pleasure is for a woman than physical, no one would ever worry about their dick size. Unless they have that micro condition, of which i just say the world is unfair.

        [–]Eugenics2015 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        When girls talk about my dick I just hear bla bla bla bla.

        [–]TheDudeMachine 99 points100 points  (2 children)

        You should go total savage and circle areas of her body that need work with an app, send it back to her with the caption, "Talk to me when you fix this."

        [–]setzer_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        hahahah and then make a new post with updates on her new and improved body to please you

        [–]DforDeadpool 48 points49 points  (16 children)

        I remember experiencing something like this when I was pre-RP. I went to Eastern Europe once, to do volunteer work. I was at some lousy rock bar with friends one night. A couple and their infant son were behind us, sitting, drinking and talking. The woman was smoking hot. She was very, very feminine. Seeing most of us are foreigners, she came to our table and started to talk to us. She sat next to me. First I was a little aloof but then I said hi, we started to talk and she was dropping hints. Then she asked for my contacts. Then I've put my hand on her shoulder to take photos. We were kinda feeling each other in secret. Feeling her skin, her scent, seeing her perfect face and slutty clothes she wore.. I was in perma-boner mode. With her husband Vlad the Cuckpaler behind us. Dude was fucking huge by the way, he could've easily beaten me. Instead he just warned me about she was his wife and I said "All is okay bro".

        We changed contacts with her, my buddies pulled some girls home and I went back to my hostel. She texted me. She said she was a model, she sent some pics from her shots, etcetera. Wow. Boner-zone. Then she said she wanted to meet me. I said "But, your husband?". She said "Don't worry he won't find out". Then she gave an adress of a cafe which I checked, was real close to some lousy fuck-hotel. Gazillion wows. I couldn't go there because I had to work and we couldn't work it out, but at that time it shocked me how could she do such a thing. If we were to meet, she'd suck the shit outta me, fuck me hard, maybe she'd even make me impenegrate her. At that time, I had the "Some women are like that" mindset so it didn't shake my reality too hard. It was just a knock on the door.

        After her, I met with another married chick. She wasn't a stunner or anything, but she was giving heavy IOIs, and probably she was ovulating. She said her husband was out of the town. I fucked her silly. For hours. We did pretty much anything besides anal and I came on her tits and mouth. She didn't spit. After that, I started to think maybe it was more than the foreigner's charm and some women's sluttiness. Was the first time I started to think that something was fucking wrong with women. They possibly threw away their marriage, husbands, children, wealth, happiness, status. For what? To fuck some foreigner dude. Just for that little excitement, little spark, that little feel. And some cock-tickling. Something is really fucking wrong with women.

        [–]xBonerDetective 21 points22 points  (3 children)

        Lollllll.

        Yeah, the first one is a common one...in eastern Europe...for extorting foreigners.

        She would have taken you to the hotel, "husband" barges in and extorts you, yadda yadda.

        Good thing you didn't go 'impregnate' her.

        [–]DforDeadpool 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Man, talk about dodging a bullet. I suspected that it could be a scam. That's why I offered a double date, I wanted her to bring a friend and I'd bring a friend too. Then she rejected it with an excuse. But it opened my mind to the nature of women, a scam or not.

        And the second one was very real and nobody extorted me. She complained about her life and her husband all night, I didn't give a fuck, then I pulled her and fucked her. Easy peasy. She didn't mention but maybe she even had children back in her home. Gosh. Also I love wall-approaching chicks in Eastern Europe. They do everything for you to fuck them, then they cook for you, they give you massages, they even pay for your cab. I want to visit EE again.

        [–]Joseph_the_Carpenter 27 points28 points  (3 children)

        The worst women are the married ones. Easiest lays ever

        [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        It's about being what she doesn't have. It's not just the married ones. If you're highly educated with a good career, find that HB8 dating (not fucking, but exclusively dating) a pot-dealing Starbucks barista. If you're a pot-dealing Starbucks barista, find the sweet girl dating a beta provider.

        Married girls are just far more desperate for what they don't have. Imagine you ate chicken breast and mashed potatoes every day for 10 years. Dried pork chops and green beans is a farcry from filet mignon, but it's going to look like a dry aged porterhouse.

        [–]DforDeadpool 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        It's like a joke. They do everything for you to bed them, you just have to be there and not fuck up.

        [–]afkb39sdfb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        The worst women are the married ones. Easiest lays ever

        This, and they are always the pursuers. You only have to put in a little effort and not fuck it up with beta shit and you're in. The best part is after a month or two they "realize it's wrong" or "can't continue doing this for my family," yadda yadda yadda... Perfect arrangement, the plate leaves on it's own.

        [–]fingerthemoon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        The first story about the model with huge husband - she could have been setting you up for her husband to beat you. Women will do this.

        Big guy could have been cheating and she wanted to make him jealous to validate her worth. They could have been in on it together because it turns them both on. Her seeing how strong her man is and him feeling powerful. You just never know.

        It's also extremely dangerous to mess with a married woman. Most murders happen for this reason.

        [–]DforDeadpool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, might be, even though guy looked too beta to cheat. No matter how you look, it doesn't worth getting beaten (or worse) for a pussy.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        This. I saw this when i was eight and about half the married women in my neighbourhood who were under 30 were all rumoured to be cucking their husbands.

        I can't recall if i ever wanted marriage before then--but i can tell you i haven't wanted it since.

        [–]HAESisAMyth 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Damn...8? Early for the scales to be removed from your eyes.

        [–]yomo86 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Women throw nothing away by cheating. Marriage? Who cares about a beta. Children? I get custody anyway. Wealth? I get half of his stuff so it is actually a bonus. Shunned for adultery? He abuuuused me I had to.

        [–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (1 child)

        Congrats. Looks like you have your own, real life Alpha Widow. Every time she closes her eyes and blows hubby you know who she's thinking about.

        Further proof of the RP rule of attraction. Her attraction to you is inversely proportional to how much you care about her.

        [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 46 points47 points  (0 children)

        She won't be blowing hubby at all. Hubby doesn't merit that kind of sexual enthusiasm.

        She'll have to reserve this fantasy for when she's eating a banana.

        [–]VirgoRooster 21 points22 points  (4 children)

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        [–]afkb39sdfb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        the state will make the man lose half his money for her behavior

        Some peoples purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others. Don't be him.

        [–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (16 children)

        Her prolactin levels are falling so her body is amping up the estrogen/progesterone, which is fucking with her mind. I don't want to say "it's not her fault" but we all know females are slaves to their biology. Whereas a man might be able to overcome his hormonal urges, a women probably won't.

        [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (11 children)

        I have quite a bit of experience w this, being on steroids. Just recently I spent a month w 0 testosterone in me, still held solid frame, perfect posture, etc. Having 0 test sucks ass cause you are always tired and not having a functional dick fucks with your head, but your mindset is way more important than your hormone levels.

        [–]tag2man 2 points3 points  (8 children)

        0 Test? I'm not well read in steroid use, would you be able to explain how that is possible?

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

        I wasn't able to get access to any for a while. When you take steroids your body stops producing testosterone.

        [–]Starcraft_III 1 point2 points  (5 children)

        Does the test come back? After how long?

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        It does, depends how long you were on. Anywhere from 6-12 weeks.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        You need to remember to run HCG throughout the entire next cycle

        [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        ...you're gonna tell the mod of the steroids sub how to use steroids?

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Unwittingly, yes I did haha.

        [–]1ToSeeAndToHear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Well it's not that it's not her fault, it's that women just shouldn't be held to the same standards you'd hold a man to. It's like if I judged my cat for shitting in a box instead of a toilet.

        [–][deleted]  (11 children)

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        [–]well-ok-then 6 points7 points  (3 children)

        I'm an engineer. My BP marriage ended when my ex wife wouldn't stop flinging herself at a garage door salesman who had no interest in her but would return some of her texts. All I wanted was for her to apologize for it and say she'd stop. All she wanted was for me to not "spy on" or "control" her. She never agreed to not talk to him. A couple times she'd tell me she hadn't talked to him in a week or more. She'd never even SAY she wouldn't talk to him tonight. What's more, she never had a chance with him and I don't think he did anything to encourage her. On some biochemical level, I severely dislike the guy even though I don't logically think he did anything wrong. I was mega BP. In the two years since she moved out she's been slutting it up with anyone who wants a 40-yr old severely overweight and unpleasant woman. Any hint of alpha drives her straight towards guys who are the exact opposite of everything she always said and therefore what I thought she wanted. It disgusts and angers me. And by it, I mean the memory of who I was in the marriage. I would never date the person she is now. If I'd been a man, she may never have morphed into the hambeast she is. And I resent the fucking therapists who sent us down ridiculous rabbit holes of uselessness

        [–]plenkton 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        It seems the more technical a person's profession, the more difficult it is to understand women.

        Women act very different compared to men, which seems odd (by the understanding that both sexes want happy lives).

        I used to operate with women on the premise that a relationship provided a base, and a spring board for people to thrive.

        A base because of the security.

        And a springboard because each would bolster each other to succeed.

        But I've learned that it's men's job to lead, and THAT (leading) is what attracts women.

        Women don't care if you steal or murder, so long as you provide her security. Its men who care for virtue.

        [–]plenkton 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        It seems the more technical a person's profession, the more difficult it is to understand women.

        Women act very different compared to men, which seems odd (by the understanding that both sexes want happy lives).

        I used to operate with women on the premise that a relationship provided a base, and a spring board for people to thrive.

        A base because of the security.

        And a springboard because each would bolster each other to succeed.

        But I've learned that it's men's job to lead, and THAT (leading) is what attracts women.

        Women don't care if you steal or murder, so long as you provide her security. Its men who care for virtue.

        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        Lessons Learned: Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks

        [–]evileddy 17 points18 points  (3 children)

        Getting women is boring.. catch.. release.. catch.. release..

        boooring

        I'm now only plating women that approach me and I tell all my female friends "I don't find women who don't make any move attractive at all"

        Some of them asked me out.

        I reply: "We are good friends.. let's not mess that up. ;)"

        [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 20 points21 points  (2 children)

        Normally men hunt and women trap. But when the guy is truly the prize, the women openly compete for him in desperate fashion... Be that guy.

        [–]evileddy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        You be that guy too, buddy! ;)

        [–]tekn0_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        He's already that guy. Why do you think he's endorsed

        [–]user_none 17 points18 points  (2 children)

        Oh jeez, the timing of this couldn't be better. Like you, I have an ex coming back and trying for something. She and I started out hot and in love, then it faded a bit, but we stayed as FWB's. Eventually she got into some hard financial times (tough time for me as well) and she found Mr. Beta Bucks. A month after they meet, they're engaged. She hasn't married though...

        Fast forward two years and she's texted me from time to time to see what's going on, with me sending back very little in text. Just this week she asks to meet because she's having a difficult time at home and needs to talk with someone she trusts. She also got Mr. BB to buy a house.

        We meet at a university coffee/cafe (yay, young hotties everywhere!) and talk. Predictably, she's wanting to know more about me than to discuss her troubles. I try to steer the conversation to her and mostly succeed, yet she's doing her damnedest to probe me for love life type of info. I keep it vague and playful.

        We walk outside to get some air and check out the campus, plus to have more open discussion without extra ears around. While walking she brings up a text I sent to her and wanted clarification of my statement, which was "My intentions would not be of the purest." and that's in regards to us meeting. I clarified and told her, no bullshit, that I'd place her in the back of her vehicle and fuck the shit out of her.

        I gave her outs, left and right. I asked multiple times about her and the fiance working things out. She had none of that and we rocked her vehicle.

        Just today she's asking to come over to my place, and lays it out quite clearly, for sex. She's still living with the fiance...

        Branch swinging, AWALT, and all of that.

        [–]WishfulTraveler 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        You have me hooked, I want to know what she said after you told her you you wanted to fuck the shit out of her in the back of her car.

        [–]user_none 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Her reaction was one of surprise that I'd be so direct, yet she didn't immediately dismiss. Instead, she thought about it and made some "Hmm" type noises. I already knew that's what she wanted, but of course plausible deniability...

        When we got to her car (SUV with large area in back), I opened her door and told her to get home. She didn't want that and asked for me to hop in the passenger side. I jumped in, we talked for a few, she reaches over and strokes my hair, then in for the kiss. After that, it was off to find a dark section of road and it was on.

        It's so cringey to see how she wants to jump, first from me to the current fiance, and back to me. Prior to me, and right out of her divorce, she jumped from another guy to me. Serial monogamist that can't be alone.

        [–]Stalgrim 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        There is a point in this. It's that she wouldn't even dream of thinking of presuming to do this if it wasn't for divorce laws keeping her "in the life to which she is accustomed".

        You think after offering to throw everything away like this she wouldn't force her husband into, essentially, servitude to her for the rest of his natural life so she can fuck someone else?

        [–]well-ok-then 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        She is NOT thinking that far in advance. It's the other way around. Chicks ARE gonna do this, ARE gonna get divorced, and our white-knight society won't allow them to be poor.

        [–]ashurrutia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        That's very true. I find the only reason why I haven't cheated on my 8 year LTR, was because every time the opportunity presented itself, I would put the pros and cons of doing it on a scale for the most part the cons outweighed the pros, so I will always prevent myself from getting past the point-of-no-return with a chick. On the other hand when I have asked numerous girls who cheated, if they ever did the same thing once they knew that they might have romantic feeling for the person. The answer was a resounding "no". They always do the whole "pros and the cons" routine after they have already cheated and are trying to decide which guy they stay with. So yup, most of them really do not think that far in advance, is all about tingles and fee-fees of the moment.

        [–]eddiae 28 points29 points  (29 children)

        this is the perfect occasion for you to have children with her raised by an engineer cuck.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table[S] 99 points100 points  (11 children)

        A whore mother and a beta father-figure? My sperm deserve better.

        [–]lodro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        That's silly. There's no opportunity cost here unless you attempt to impregnate a woman every time you bust a nut..

        [–]eddiae 9 points10 points  (8 children)

        your sperm ends up in your hands or ejaculated in the toilet, this is a much better use, the kid is going to grow up in a solid middle class family wich means he'll fucking reproduce

        [–]oZeplikeo 12 points13 points  (5 children)

        Yeah, and you'll never be his real "father." I agree with most tenets of TRP, but why is it that most of you guys have no interest in fathering a son and showing him the path to happiness in our beautiful yet fucked up world?

        [–]DforDeadpool 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        That would be spiritually fulfilling to raise a son. Even though not that much, raising a daughter would be good too. Yet, the thing is, our desire is to penetrate and impenegrate healthy, pretty women. Think of it like it's a fantasy of your body and your (mostly reptilian) mind.

        Let's get real, I'd impenegrate many women if it weren't for the responsibility. Let's say I'm travelling, I'm giving the chicks a false name and a false number and there's no way for me to get an STD. I'd go full-on creampie mode, anybody would. Because it's fun and would give you the man version of the feelz.

        [–]PaperbackParrot 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Because its not worth putting up with the [average] mother and [probably] possibly ruining your life in the process.

        You are number 1, Always look out for number 1

        [–]NotyouG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Why not both spread your seed as far and wide as possible

        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Even though that's been the evolutionary imperative for thousands of years, I wouldn't want my daughter to take her example of femininity from that woman, and my son to develop his sense of masculinity through that man.

        [–]igrokspock 5 points6 points  (5 children)

        What did the Bible say? Do not cast pearls before swine.

        [–]Firespit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        It also says: "[...] Onan knew that the children would not belong to him, so when he had intercourse with his brother’s widow, he let the semen spill on the ground, so that there would be no children for his brother. What he did displeased the LORD, and the LORD killed him [...]"

        [–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Don't give pearl necklaces to piggies?

        [–]catacamas 10 points11 points  (5 children)

        this is the perfect occasion for you to have children with her raised by an engineer cuck

        Bad idea, considering he's bound to figure this out eventually. And beta or not, engineers are NOT stupid or naive. He'll get a paternity test, find out the kids aren't his, and everyone's lives will be ruined.

        I can tell you this also because I'm living this ... just kicked my wife out for cheating, and soon I'll be doing paternity tests on our kids.

        Anyone who would deliberately impregnate a woman in a situation like this is a disgusting sub-human speck. The ramifications are huge, you're destroying multiple lives at once, including that of innocent unborn children.

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          [–]MEANMUTHAFUKA 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          No way - way too risky. She already sounds like a fucking headcase. No way I would want to mix myself up in that drama. But then again, I already have kids and am done having any more, so I'm biased.

          [–]Five_Decades 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Hell no, total basketcase. Even if she weren't married the fact that she acts like this is a total red flag. Sex can always be rented.

          [–]ironblacksmith 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          In blue pill terms, you're the "one that got away". Red pill, you alpha widowed her. Point is, she'll always be willing to come back to you, seek your approval and let you have your way. Whether in a relationship or not. Here's my story.

          [–]notgivefuck 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Brb getting this post tattooed on my chest so I never get married.

          [–]McLarenX 7 points8 points  (1 child)

          Marriage is useless now that there is nothing to enforce fidelity. AF/BB isn't a social construct; it's a simple biological behavioral function that exists in every woman's subconscious. Women don't know why they seek both security and the best DNA available for offspring. With the onset of feminism (and there world stating genders are "equal"), they are even further from self-enlightenment than ever before.

          [–]Five_Decades 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          It isn't just that there is no enforcement of fidelity, there is reward for infedelity. If a woman has an affair she gets 50%+ of her husband's assets and gets to use the kids as leverage since the courts will take her side in custody disputes (and she can leverage that for more money). We are rewarding bad behavior.

          [–]JohnBoyAndBilly 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          I mean, the lessons here are valid, but the way these stories are written appear to be TRP fan fiction.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          she doesn't feel like a sexual creature anymore. she feels like a mom and she doesn't like it. See also: the sexually aggressive stuff Beyonce put out right after having her kid.

          [–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Women just don't fucking care. They view men as their playthings that need to give them everything they want. That guy gives her a baby and provision, you give her dick. Female hamster keeps rolling

          Now for the love of god can we start looking out for our own best interests. Your LTR gives you baseline sex, other girls give you exciting sex.

          [–]Stopher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Story depresses the hell out of me.

          [–]Harry_Teak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Great story, and quite typical sadly. However, I have to disagree with the title. Say you emailed the texts and pics to the husband so he knows what he's funding at home. If he asks for a divorce, she gets the house, car, and easy money in the form of child support and probably alimony. If she's still as attractive as you say, she should have no problem hooking another beta so she can wash, rinse, repeat. She's not jeopardizing much, if anything.

          If the guy is so whipped that he doesn't divorce her, well, it's a zero sum game for her. Either way, she comes out just fine.

          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          "As much as that applies to an engineer." What do you do brainiac?

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

          Pardon me on my opinion here, I'm from a country that has been extremely successful for years regarding arrange marriages and women do not do anything like that. It makes me feel skeptical about these stories. Not that I'm pointing out OP or anything but this is in extreme contrast with what I've seen. Could it be the acceptance of cheating and cuckoldry in our society? Men cheat too you know, a lot actually. But what is the radical solution to this shit? We can't all off women as whores since we as men have in one way or the other the same underlying psychology. Why not shame these cuckold women and men the same way intellects are shamed in communist couentries?

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            [–]ArcadesRed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            And oddly enough, I think its only other women who can pull off the shaming. But they have all become a you go girl crowd.

            [–]WishfulTraveler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            You're likely from a country where social pressure acts as a preventative for female hypergammy. The majority of us are from the U.S. where this no longer exists.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I guess this is what scientists feel like when they confirm a theory they'd spent a while on.

            Lessons Learned: AWALT? Women are sluts? I don't know, man. Sometimes this shit just smacks you when you least expect it.

            You have some confirmation bias. Every modern man who wasn't a complete omega-fag during school has at least one or two of this type of woman in their lives. There are women who stay faithful but A.) they are invisible to us and B.) no one can know for sure who is cheating and who isn't. The stats I have seen say 70% of men cheat on their wives while 50-60% of women cheat on their husbands. Staggering numbers, certainly. American women (and men) can't be trusted. Since when can a godless people keep a sacred vow? Also known as: of course you will find shit in a sewer.

            (Various social commentary) There is something to be said for the atomization of society, as well. We don't have communities anymore. Sex and lust are one of the few ways left to feel a human connection. Women suck at friendship but they are still doing slightly better than men who have fewer close friendships per capita than ever before. Add in the disruptive effects of multiculturalism and cut-throat competitive job markets that incentivize people to separate from their social networks to stay employed and we are more isolated and lonely than ever before. Marriage has taken on the extra roles of friendship, confidant, and business partner. It's too much. If one or another area even seem less than ideal the man or woman starts looking for a replacement and we are so trained by commodification to shop around that it just seems natural. We shop for human flesh the same way we shop through an app store, just flipping through an inexhaustible catalog. The more we look the more we want.

            The complete annihilation of the consequences of a broken marriage contract for women (men still have financial consequences of course) resulted in more single-mom families. Lacking a father is a sure way to make a woman an insatiable cock-slut as she forever searches for the daddy she was cruelly denied. She searches by the method her culture and biology allows her to search: through sex, one of the few ways to feel connection left in our husk of a civilization.

            [–]NaughtyFred 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            after these texts...did you fuck her?

            [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

            Nope. She made all these plans and i just went cold. My meat has standards.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            A woman being too desperate for the dick is actually a turn off, at least for me. I'd even go as far as to say it's kind of creepy - I figure it must be what it's like to be a woman, and I sort of empathize with them in that respect.

            Even back in my blue pill days I remember this girl messaging me out of the blue and she started talking about "hey I can come over and yea we can go to the store and get condoms and lube" and just being extremely forward about fucking, and I just went ghost after that, it disgusted me and I couldn't handle it.

            [–]t_m_1984 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            She hasn't risked anything. Her beta will always forgive and take her back.

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            [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Part of me did, actually. But I remembered that he had the chance to get away from this early on yet still chose not to.

            These are the fruits of his choices.

            [–]Five_Decades 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I can see why this would be an eye opener. I don't see how people can get emotionally involved after hearing and seeing so many of these stories.

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