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MetaThe definitive roadmap guide on how to actually dress well. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed Contributormallardcove

The definitive guide on how to actually dress well.

I would say that apart from coming to TRP game and lifting, that learning how to actually dress well is the largest jump in SMV and success you can have. You can add multiple points to your SMV simply by learning how to dress.

Yes, here on reddit the sub malefashionadvice exists. But is it actually good advice? Is it filtered through a red pilled lens? Let's be real. That sub, like most other reddit subs, is probably inhabited by your typical reddit soyboy nu-male types. Would you take fashion advice from any of the type of guys I just linked to? Probably not.

Like with my Tinder guide, I've seen fashion and style posts here on TRP, some of which are solid, but this post I am making is aimed at being as comprehensive as possible, from start to finish. (note on my Tinder guide: I plan on making a follow up, 2nd post for it addressing the numerous questions I got as well as covering some points I missed)


Preparation

Before you run out and buy hundreds of dollars worth of new clothes, you have to be prepared. A new wardrobe is an investment. While it is possible to go to a thrift store or Goodwill or something and get a new wardrobe that way, its not the most optimal. Just keep in mind that you are going to take a financial hit here.

Another thing you need to be prepared for is your size. If you are fat, or trying to cut, its best not to go out and buy new clothes until you are done cutting/losing weight. Fit matters, and you don't want to buy clothes that will become too loose/baggy after you cut. If you don't plan on cutting or plan on bulking, you should be fine. It will take a while to bulk up to a point where your clothes become too tight/restricting, unlike cutting where it doesn't take much to all of a sudden make your clothes too baggy and loose.

Two conditions must be met before proceeding: Being able to afford new clothes, and having cut down your body fat/weight.


Fit and Size

I think more than anything, fit is what matters most. You want slim fitting clothes that adhere to your sihouette. Baggy, loose clothes won't get it done these days. This goes for everything. Shirts, shorts, pants, and more. Slim fitting clothes work best. Most male clothing brands have "regular fit" or "classic fit" items, and then "slim fit" of the same items. Always go for a slim fit cut if the option is available. Some brands even have "extra slim" alongside the "slim" cut, go for the extra slim.

Obviously you want to be slim yourself. It's hard to get away with wearing slim fit clothes if you are a fat ass. Like I pointed out above, don't buy any clothes until you have cut down.

As far as actual size, for shirts you want to wear the smallest possible size you can. Take whatever size you think works for you, and go 2 sizes smaller and try that shit on. You'd be surprised. How do you know if its too small? You'll know. It will feel too constricting and like its about to rip. The best way to determine is to try on many sizes, take mirror pictures with your smart phone and compare the pictures. You want it to look slim fitting and adhering to your body, but not too tight. This especially goes with t-shirts, you don't want it to look like you are wearing a trash bag, but you don't want it to look like you are wearing tight fitting spandex and trying to show the whole damn world you lift weights.

For pants and shorts and jeans, you don't want the waist to be too constricting, but you want to give yourself some room to grow, especially if you plan on bulking. Belts help here. I usually go an inch or two above my waist measurement. Like with shirts, you want to go with slimmer cuts if available, but not too slim when it comes to jeans and pants. You don't want to look like a hipster douche.

Keep in mind that sizing can vary across brands, and across different items within the brands. For example at Ralph Lauren Polo I wear a medium in their slim fit mesh polos, but a small in their soft polos. I wear a small in J Crew's t-shirts, but a medium in Banana Republics. Moral of the story? TRY EVERYTHING ON.

If you can afford it, get your more expensive items tailored.


Colors and Styles

You mainly want to stick with neutrals and muted colors. Try to avoid bright, bold colors and complex patterns with a lot going on. I'm not saying to avoid bold colors completely, but it shouldn't be the base of your wardrobe.

As far as what neutrals and colors work for you, the best way to do this is to find out your skin undertone. I found this site to be helpful. It's written for girls, but it applies to men too. The easiest way to find your undertone is to go outside and look at the color of your veins on your underarm. If they are more blue-green, you're warm. If they are more blue-purple, you're cool. Myself, I'm warm. Combined with my dark brown hair and light blue eyes, I have a lot of contrast which makes me a "Bright Spring". Then you can google which colors work best for you. Being a bright spring means that bright, bold colors compliment me, but I generally avoid them anyway apart from one or two pieces. I stick with the neutrals and muted colors of my palette.


Where to Shop

You have your malls and your stand alone stores. You have online stores as well. But in my opinion, nothing beats outlet/factory malls. These places are malls in the middle of nowhere(for the most part) that sell items direct from the manufacturer. Meaning you can get these items for much cheaper than you can find in malls, and most of the time these places are having sales. I do pretty much all my shopping at these places. What I can't find in these stores, I buy online. Online is good if you absolutely can't find an item you want in stores, which will happen, but the downside is that you can't try the item on and returns are a pain.

The Outlet Mall I go to has all kinds of stores that work for men all in the same spot. JCrew, Banana Republic, Ralph Lauren, Tommy Hilfiger, Express, H&M, and more. So convienient.

Just make sure to plan out an entire day to go to these places. The first time I went I went a couple hours before close and that was not near enough time. Came back the next day and spent 6 more hours.


Items to Avoid

Here is a list of items I recommend avoiding at all costs. This is not a comprehensive list, I'm sure I forgot some things in here. But at the very least, avoid these, and if you have them, find the nearest fireplace to burn them or take them to Goodwill. Or, keep them and ONLY wear them when the situation calls for it, i.e. only wear athletic sneakers when working out or running, only wear NFL jerseys on Gameday. If you have something to add please let me know and I'll add it.

  • Cargo Shorts or Pants

  • Sweater Vests

  • Pleated Pants

  • Graphic T-Shirts

  • Football/Basketball Jerseys

  • Skater Shoes

  • Fedoras

  • Smart Watches/Digital Watches

  • Athletic/Basketball Sneakers

  • Scarves

  • Man Purses


Buy Items in 3s

I recommend to buy all of the following items in 3s. That way you have variety and can mix and match all of your items to create a lot of outfit combos. For your 3, buy one neutral, one soft/muted color, and the other is up to you, whether you want to add another neutral, a bolder color, a pattern or stripe style. Just make sure everything you buy goes with everything else color wise.


T-Shirts

T-Shirts are going to be the cornerstone of your closet. Pretty much every retailer will carry these. Some are are higher quality than others, but I've learned that you don't need to spend $20+ on a single t-shirt. I got mine at JCrew and Banana Republic for $9 a pop and they are perfectly fine.

Neckline wise I go with V-Necks for T-Shirts, and Crew Necks for long sleeve. As I pointed out earlier, fit wise you want to thread the needle. You don't want it to be too baggy or you'll look like a slob. You don't want it to be too tight or you'll look like a try hard douche bag. I've found that size Medium from most retailers works best for me.

What I Bought

Banana Republic Short Sleeve Crew Neck T-Shirts(3): Navy, Berry, Charcoal

Banana Republic Short sleeve V-Neck T-Shirts(3): White, Black, Sky Blue

JCrew Long Sleeve Crew Neck T-Shirts(3): White, Black, Gray


Polos

Polos are optional, but I feel are a good, versitale piece to your closet. They can be dressed up or down and work with a lot of situations. When you need something a bit more classy than a t-shirt, but not too dressy like a button up, these are going to be your go-to.

Almost everywhere sells polos. I recommend avoiding the budget brands for polos and stepping up in quality. I got mine at Ralph Lauren Outlet for $35 each. Go with a slim fit cut if you can, because polos typically are not cut slim and can look very baggy. Ralph Lauren's slim fit polo line is known as "Custom Fit" these days. I recommend mesh polos personally, but soft polos can work too.

What I Bought

Ralph Lauren Custom Fit Mesh Polos (3): White, Soft Pink, Blue


Henleys

Short sleeve or long sleeve, it doesn't matter. I prefer long sleeve myself even in warmer months. Henleys are a good look because you can leave them unbuttoned and show off your upper chest. They add a bit more than a typical long sleeve t-shirt does.

What I Bought

American Eagle Long Sleeve Henley (2): Charcoal, Light Blue


Casual Button Downs

These are button down shirts that are not formal or dressy like dress shirts are. These are meant to be a bit more relaxed and casual looking, and don't need to be ironed or pressed. These are perfect for wearing out to the bar or first dates. It makes it look like you give a shit, but not trying too hard. Leave the top couple of buttons unbuttoned to expose your chest, and roll up the sleeves in the summer, which is a good look.

Most retailers will sell these too. They are made from various cloths, such as oxford cloth, linen, and more. They are easy to separate from the dress shirts because they are generally hanging on hangers in the stores, and are sized "S/M/L" instead of numbers. They are also cheaper than dress shirts and the material is different.

I do recommend that you buy at least one of these that is denim, and at least one that is white.

What I Bought

JCrew Slim Button Down Linen Shirt (2): White, Navy

Express Slim Button Down Shirt (2): Light Blue, Denim


Dress Shirts

I really only recommend buying these if you have a need to wear them, i.e. your job. It's nice to have something dressy and formal on hand for an occassion that calls for it, but you only need one. Wearing these in the wrong occassion screams "try-hard" so be careful. They also have to be tucked in because they are longer than the casual version.

The sizing for these shirts is different. The numbers used for sizing are neck and sleeve length. So you have to do some trial and error to know what works, or ask a sales person who can measure you. Most places will have "try on" dress shirts so you don't have to unfold and unpin the already folded up dress shirts off the shelf. Just ask a sales person for them.

Express carries extra slim dress shirts that I believe are affordable and stylish at the same time. I got mine on sale for $30 each.

What I Bought

Express Extra Slim Dress Shirts (6): White, Navy, Light Blue, Soft Pink, Charcoal, Lilac


Turtlenecks

I don't think these get enough play. Sterling Archer has been trying to make these happen and I don't see enough men wearing them. But they work. Use these for colder months but they can be dressed up or down. Just make sure you go with actual turtlenecks instead of the mockneck versions.

What I Bought

Banana Republic Turtlenecks (3): Cream, Black, Navy


Sweaters

In colder months these will be your staples. Even though its colder and you will be wearing more layers, that doesn't mean you want to forget the slim fit part and get baggy sweaters that make it look like you are wearing a trash bag. Make sure what you buy is form fitting. I'd also say mix it up on material/thickness as well. Sweaters can be layered with shirts with collars to create a classy look.

What I Bought

JCrew Sweaters (3): Charcoal, Dark Olive Green, Navy


Sport Coats/Blazers

Like with dress shirts, you may have a job that calls for these and you'll want to buy more. Otherwise one or two is fine. Don't underestimate the power of a sport coat/blazer, they can turn any outfit up a notch or two immediately, even if its over a t-shirt and jeans.

Wherever you buy these I recommend getting measured by the salesperson and making sure you get the right fit, then taking it to a tailor immediately after purchasing. With blazers/sport coats, you are walking a fine, fine line between a fit that flatters and a fit that doesn't flatter.

You don't need to break the bank on these, but if you can afford a place like Men's Wearhouse or Joseph A. Bank, or Brooks Brothers, go ahead. However department stores or places like Express have options that work, too.

What I Bought

Nordstrom Blazers (2): Black, Navy


Jackets/Coats

You'll need these in the winter months. There are many different types of jackets and coats, for various uses.

First and foremost I'll come out and say that I believe every man should invest in a leather jacket. You don't need to spend $1000+ or even $500+. But laying down a few hundred dollars on a leather jacket is a good investment not just for the short term, but the long term. And nothing turns on a woman like a man in a leather jacket. I can't think of a more bad ass looking piece of clothing a man can wear.

I also think every man needs a denim jacket as well. It may not carry the same bad ass appeal that a leather jacket does, but its still bad ass and works with a lot of situations.

Then you might want a cheaper, more casual bomber jacket for casual situations and everyday wear.

LIKE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE: Make sure the fit is right. You don't want to drop coin on a leather jacket only for it to be too baggy.

What I Bought

Nordstrom Leather Jacket (1): Black

JCrew Denim Jacket (1): Denim

Old Navy Nylon Bomber Jacket (1): Charcoal


Shorts

Shorts are a must have for warmer months. The key here is length. You don't want them to be too long. You don't want it to go past the knee. Every man is a different height, but for me, I don't buy anything with larger than a 9 inch inseam. I'm 6'1", and 9 inches is as high as I will go. My sweet spot is closer to 7 inches.

Avoid pleats or cargo pockets. You simply want flat front shorts with 2 side pockets and 2 rear pockets.

JCrew, American Eagle, Abercrombie & Fitch, Old Navy all make good flat front shorts that are affordable. Shorts are also a place you can go a bit more crazy and bold on the colors.

What I Bought

JCrew 9 Inch Flat Front Shorts (1): White

Old Navy 8 Inch Slim Flat Front Shorts (2): Navy, Sea Green

Abercrombie & Fitch 7 Inch Flat Front Shorts (1): Light Blue


Jeans

Jeans will be a must have that can be worn any time of the year so its important you get these right. If nothing else you need a good pair of go-to blue jeans. I highly recommend that this piece be a pair of dark wash slim fit jeans. They go with anything and are dark enough to make a statement.

Make sure all the cuts you buy are slimmer fit. Baggy or loose jeans look dumb but they are the most common types of jeans you will find in stores. You don't have to go full hipster skinny jeans, but at least make sure its slim cut.

One way to really stand out is to buy a pair of white jeans. I know it might sound a bit extreme but if you can pull it off, it works. Especially paired with a black t-shirt. Trust me, girls will love it. I was skeptical at first but gave it a go and the IOIs came like volleys. Just be careful with your underwear when wearing them.

What I Bought

JCrew Slim Jeans (1): Dark Wash

Levi's 511 Slim Jeans (2): White, Black


Pants

A step beyond jeans, these will make you stand out. While there is nothing wrong with jeans, sometimes wearing pants instead will be different, in a good way. A pair of well fitting khaki chinos can go well with everything and can be dressed up or down.

Be careful with your color selections. With pants/chinos, a lot of places will sell all colors of the rainbow. Be safe and pick muted neutrals or colors. Khaki, Olive, Navy, Stone, and a muted Red are the Top 5 in my opinion. Black and White are best left for jeans or dress pants.

What I Bought

JCrew Driggs Slim Fit Chinos (3): Khaki, Olive, Stone


Dress Pants

As with dress shirts and sport coats/blazers, these are optional, really only necessary if you work in an environment that calls for it, otherwise you might just want a pair on hand for an occassion that calls for it.

What I bought

Express Extra Slim Dress Pants (5): Black, Black, Navy, Charcoal, Stone


Shoes

Shoes are very important. Women will look at your shoes and judge you based on them. You can't just expect to throw on a pair of tennis shoes and expect to be viewed fairly.

I think every man should have 4 types of shoes:

  • Casual Dress Shoes - Loafers work well.

  • Boots - Chukka or Chelsea.

  • Sneakers - Nice sneakers, not athletic or basketball sneakers. I do recommend solid white as your color here.

  • Athletic Sneakers - For working out/running/physical activity only

And a 5th, if you need it:

  • Dress Shoes - Avoid square toes.

If you're wearing shorts, you don't want to wear boots. If you're wearing shorts, you don't want to wear socks, or if you do, make sure its socks that don't show. Use your judgement. For example if you're in Las Vegas and plan on walking up and down the strip in the daytime, its OK to wear athletic sneakers and socks.

Boots paired with dark wash blue jeans or khaki chinos is always a solid masculine look.

What I Bought

Tommy Hilfiger Loafers (1): Brown

Rockport Chukka Boots (1): Brown

Sperry Top Sider Sneakers (1): White

Nike Cross Training Sneakers (1): Black

Nordstrom Dress Shoes (1): Black


Watches

Every man needs to be wearing a wristwatch. Not dumb "Smart" Watches or cheap Digital Watches. A nice, regular analog watch. You don't have to drop thousands on a Rolex or Tag Heuer. There are online vendors that make decent watches at decent prices these days. Ignore the watch snobs who say they suck. I think Vincero and MVMT make affordable watches that spice up a man's look, along with Fossil, Citizen, Seiko and other brands. If you can afford a Rolex, by all means go ahead, but most people don't want to spend that much on a watch.

If you are buying a watch with a metal band, just make sure it matches your skin undertone. Warm undertone you want some kind of gold hue, cool undertone you'll want a silver hue.

Don't go bare wristed again. A watch done right is the most masculine looking accessory a man can wear.

What I bought:

Seiko Watch (1): Gold Case/Black Face/Gold Link Band

MVMT Classic Watch (1): Rose Gold Case/Black Face/Black Leather Band

Vincero Chrono Watch (1): Silver Case/Blue Face/Brown Leather Band


Sunglasses

Like with shoes, women also judge a man on his sunglasses. You don't need to go out and buy a pair of $150 Ray Bans. Just make sure the sunglasses fit your face and style. I have 4 pairs of sunglasses, 3 of which I got for $10 or less at outlet shops. I do have a pair of $150 Ray Bans, which are my go-to, but not all outfits call for them. The right pair of sunglasses with the right outfit can lead to an exponential increase in IOIs.

What I Bought:

Ray Ban Foldable Wayfarer Sunglasses (1): Black

American Eagle Aviator Sunglasses (2): Black, Mirror

JCrew Clubmaster Sunglasses (1): Brown


Accessories

It doesn't hurt to accessorize a bit. You don't have to go all out like a girl, but a good looking necklace or chain or bracelet or rings all can help your overall look. I like to pair a gold chain necklace with a v-neck t-shirt or unbuttoned casual dress shirt. Or a pendant necklace with a crew neck t-shirt. Bracelets work for everything. If you are a cool undertone you'll want to go with a silver chain and silver bracelets, warm undertone go with gold.

Don't forget a brown leather belt either.

What I Bought

Buckle Pendant Necklace (1): Black

Buckle Hemp Cross Necklace (1): Gray

H&M Chain Necklace (1): Gold

JCrew Leather Bracelet (2): White, Brown

H&M Rings (1): Gray

JCrew Leather Belt (2): Brown, Black


Conclusion

As you can see, its an investment. It's not cheap. You don't have to do it all at once. You can chip away at a new wardrobe over time. Know where to shop, find sales, take advantage of clearance racks, sign up for rewards programs at stores, ask for this shit for your birthday/Christmas/etc.

It's worth it, in the end. Some of this shit can be a one time deal. Take care of your clothes and they'll last years. The items I listed won't go out of style, either.

Dressing right and not dressing right can mean several points worth of difference in your SMV. I know it made a huge difference for me. It also greatly helps your confidence and self esteem. If you're confident in your look and style, you'll be confident in other areas. After having spent all this money on clothes, you'll be extra motivated to get out there and actually get your money's worth from your investment. Why spend all this money on clothes if you aren't going to use them to up your style and game and approach?

Go out in public and observe all the men. Most of them are dressed like slobs. It doesn't take much to surpass them.

If nothing else, fit. Fit is king. You can buy a 100% thrift store wardrobe that will work if the fit is on point.


[–]TheCossack 150 points151 points  (14 children)

Male fashion advice is a great sub simply because of the variety you get. You don't need to follow their guides to the letter. If you're not an idiot you know what you like and what you don't. If you don't think something on the sub would suit you, don't wear it

[–]mytrillosophy 156 points157 points  (4 children)

But if you don’t shit on every other sub possible, are you even Redpilled?

[–]ImperiallyInclined 34 points35 points  (0 children)

That was good. You made me laugh..

[–]i_forget_my_userids 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Gotta shit on redpill too, rookie.

[–]donkeykong420 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Not only is it a useful sub, the basic advice is extremely similar to what was written up here.

[–]Orsick 23 points24 points  (3 children)

malefashionadvice sucks, now here are some tips that you can find on the sidebar of that sub.

[–]rpsheepdog 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Malefashionadvice is too overwhelming for me, people are into the specifics too much to the point where its hard to get the simple stuff out

[–]mattizie 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If it's too over whelming for you (it was for me!), then search on that sub for "the basic bastard". It doesn't get any simpler than that.

The most important thing though, is fit. Get the "basic bastard" wardrobe, take it to a tailor, and you'll look good. Not great, just good.

[–]whuttupfoo 240 points241 points  (10 children)

You start the post off bashing the malefashionadvice subreddit, yet your guide is a complete malefashionadvice starter kit. Very basic Silicon Valley startup engineer style fashion sense. Your style has no personality bro.

[–]Tapatiogawd 84 points85 points  (0 children)

dude nailed it on the head lol. this is the forever 21 basic girl guide for men.

[–]laserrrrrr 37 points38 points  (1 child)

was thinking the same, if this guide is followed you just end up looking like a fast fashion mannequin

[–]Yankees1327 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Apparently I’m not allowed to wear an Apple Watch anymore who knew

[–]MrWombatt 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Real talk. Whomever put this together needs to venture out from the outlets and malls.

But, I admire the effort that went into it. So, I'll give it that.

[–]tesladexless 3 points4 points  (0 children)

all I needed to do was to check out the shoe recommendations. "Nike Cross Training Sneakers" was enough for me.

[–]frooschnate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Took the words right outta my fingers

[–]lorum_ipsum_dolor 87 points88 points  (17 children)

I see too many guys who take the "super slim fit" thing too far and wind up looking silly.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove[S] 41 points42 points  (5 children)

Because they are too fat, or too skinny.

With the right body, it works.

[–]Shaney96 38 points39 points  (2 children)

Even with the right body, go and put on some Topman 'spray-on' skinny jeans and you'll understand 'too slim'.

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    [–]Shaney96 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    I know. That wasn't my point. My point was that they sell the skinniest fit I know of, and I class such fit as 'too skinny' even on the 'right body'.

    [–]mattizie 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    That's a copout, with the right body, you could just wear a loin cloth and it works.

    Yes, there is such a thing as too skinny with jeans.

    My metric is the crotch gap. Mens jeans should not have one. If your jeans are so tight that it's flat where your balls should be, it's too tight. Here is an example of what I mean. Yes, that's a chick, but I've seen guys wear jeans that look like that, before.

    [–]MTNSC1 16 points17 points  (8 children)

    Personally keep wonderiing who are these twigs that can fit into a super slim fit....and even most brands "slim fits" will not fit my shoulders and chest.....hell I am only 6-2 200lbs.

    You must be nearly anorexic to fit into "super slim fit".

    Noticed that some brands have started resizing their brands as well...current large used to be a medium.

    Op says he is 6-2 wearing a mediumsmall size shirts so that would explain tons...very skinny.

    [–]i_forget_my_userids 27 points28 points  (3 children)

    You sound fatter than you think you are. Slim/XSlim is a cut, not a size. You can get XL extra slim shirts, fatty. Try fitted cut if you need a broader shoulder.

    [–]MTNSC1 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    Not fat in the least......just broad shoulders and slim waist....have to get shirts tailored usually.

    Tried SLIM fit M, L, XL and none fit shoulders or chest. and regular fit has all that damn fatty cloth around the middle section. So it is usually a regular fit L or XL depending on brand then tailored to remove the waist cloth.

    [–]banthrow 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    200 lbs is a lot. It's a super-heavy category in boxing.

    [–]Rudeyyyy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I’m 5’4 and I wear a medium...

    [–]thedaynos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Dude. Girls wanna see ur muscles. Maybe you don't wanna see the guys bodies which is all good but the girls love it. Love.

    [–]1swaglordobama 28 points29 points  (1 child)

    The biggest thing to mention is dress for your city. The classy look is try-hard and faggy in LA, but a staple in NYC. Find out what style the coolest guys in your city are rocking and mimic it.

    Also fashion should should either convey class or "I don't give a fuck and I can get away with it." (Both convey high value) Don't aim for the grey area. You want to have flavor. Fuck Tommy Hilfiger and all of those assclown brands. Get some fucked up or sassy t-shirts, shop at thrift stores. Have a few items that allow girls to open you. These should be fun, small and stashable in your pocket.

    At the end of the day your the girl chooses you, not your clothes, so don't stress it. Dress how you want.

    [–]zealanderx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Holy cow-

    I forgot about this but I have been to NYC and WOOOW do those women dress stunning. Really something to behold.

    [–]frozen_yogurt_killer 52 points53 points  (5 children)

    Good shit. One criticism:

    > Try to avoid bright, bold colors and complex patterns with a lot going on.

    Colors are a great way to peacock. Wear a pink shirt to convey confidence. Wear fun colorful socks. If possible, wear a flowery jacket on a date. I'm telling you, it works.

    [–]zevfern 13 points14 points  (2 children)

    This. I have a pink Polo, it gets eyes on me.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Where do you live/ go out? A pink polo in the south of the U.S. is almost like a uniform for bros. Also depends on the brand, fit, test of your outfit, etc.

    [–]MrWombatt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    If you're of a tan or darker complexion (like myself), brighter pastels and patterns are your friend.

    [–]Locoboy713 16 points17 points  (3 children)

    Some of us will go through a transitional phase based on our physique. Our body go through a good amount of changes with weight lifting and proper diet. Personally, I focused on get my body to a physique I am happy with (went from 5'6" 135 skinny fat to 162 lb "do you somewhat lift" 12% bf in 5 yrs). Looking back, I wasted a shit tons of money on clothes with horrible fitting and style.

    [–]NameUser18 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Sounds like you started where I am now (135, 5’6). Did you bulk or cut first? I’m doing a bulk but struggling with the chubbyness around the belly. Like I can see progress muscle wise, but the belly sticking around is annoying. Did you have the same problem?

    [–]Locoboy713 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I would suggest a slow steady cut until you get rid of your belly fat first. Dial in your nutrition and learn how to set up your macros & count calories. The mistake I made was not patient enough and worries about the “size” too much first. Slow cut and then lean bulk (TDEE + 300 to500). Enjoy the process and newbie gainz. Focus on the big 3 compound lift and be great at them. Cheers

    [–]ajs_rb26 135 points136 points  (15 children)

    This should be titled “How to dress like a basic metrosexual”

    [–]oliseo 23 points24 points  (7 children)

    True. But this subreddit is about getting laid.

    If you want to get laid, and get laid a lot, you have to appeal to the widest audience possible.

    However, some of the principles still apply to you if you're into rock music/metal,punk, etc, or whatever sub genre you want to attract Women from.

    Myself, personally, I mix up my attire with double denim, bead necklace, bead bracelets, with a muted pattern v-necked t-shirt and a denim shirt, with the sleeves rolled up and some nice solid boots. I look like a freakin rock star, and I act like one.

    I have various outfits for all the various groups I'm part of.

    Don't limit yourself to one group. The same basic principles apply to whatever theme you want to go for.

    [–]123GO 12 points13 points  (3 children)

    Just no. Never once in my life have I worn a bracelet, tiara or necklace.

    Nor have I ever worn a "lilac" crew neck t-shirt.

    My God. This is the manosphere?

    [–]1legedu 12 points13 points  (1 child)

    I wear bracelets and lavender and bang plenty. It's all in how you present your style.

    [–]zealanderx 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Banging plenty is no measure of success my RP acquintance-

    I think 123GO knows a few plates that can hook up that tiara for you.

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      [–]zealanderx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      And not only that... but it's the "how to dress like a basic metrosexual for white boys 22 years of age" edition

      [–]metallicdrama 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Nice lol. This is how I would dress if I was shitting where I eat and gaming at work.

      [–]Sqtlol 32 points33 points  (15 children)

      For the love of god, invest in a proper timepiece and don’t settle for the MVMT fashion garbage you listed here. Your timepiece gives away a whole lot about you. Invest in a classic & timeless sporty model that goes with most outfits. If within budget, aim for below. Examples are Rolex Submariner, IWC Portuguese, Breitling Avenger, Longines Hydro Conquest, Tank de Cartier if you have the means to rock it.

      Timepieces last a lifetime.

      [–]stvain 16 points17 points  (1 child)

      Yeah the only thing I wanted to add here was a warning not to buy MVMT. Their watches just flat out stop working after a few months.

      [–]skeet07 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      Seiko's and NATO's if on a budget.

      [–]soonerguy9782 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Sticking with my Timex Ironman. That's fucking classic for you.

      [–]truedemocracy3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      It also signified beta bux, does it not.

      I once used to portray that when going to bars by wearing the classic frat boy uniform of polo button down, khaki pants, whatever. Didn't have trouble but have much more success now playing up the looks with a well fitted vneck and dark jeans

      [–]dominikklis1 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      What's your opinion on classic GS 5600 (looking for affordable good quality watch)? Is OP advice on avoiding digital watches accurate?

      [–]driprickflair 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I’d go with something like a vintage seiko diver with a NATO strap. An automatic watch will always present nicer than a modern quart plastic piece of crap.

      [–]Sqtlol 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Personally not a fan of digital smartwatches and I don’t encourage you to get one either. Stuff is probably handy and stuff, but it just looks dorky and gives off the «IT-guy» vibe. Women probably think even less of it. If you’re on a budget and looking for something classy that also works as a conversation starter, look into the Seiko Presage Cocktail time. Good quality at a reasonable price with swiss components.

      [–]dominikklis1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Thats too dressy for me. What do you think about Hamilton Khaki Mechanical and Seiko SNK? Its more appealing to me, Im more into military/rugged style. PS In previous comment I asked you about G Shock 5600, not smart watch. Thanks

      [–]Sqtlol 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      The G Shock falls into the same category, in terms of appearance and clunkiness. Avoid it. The Seiko SNK is a fair choice if you like them a little rugged, it’s still masculine and looks like a proper watch (even at its reasonable price point). Just stay clear of digital watches and huge clunky pieces, thats my two cents anyway.

      [–]kanye4pope 14 points15 points  (3 children)

      Go to Uniqlo for your basics. End of story.

      [–]FreakyFruit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I agree. 80% of my everyday wardrobe is from Uniqlo. Affordable, clean-cut styling that fits me extremely well.

      [–]oakleyo0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yep, couldn't agree more, their oxfords are great shirts and have a great cut.

      [–]sjphi26 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      You lost all credibility when you endorsed turtlenecks.

      Seriously?

      [–]2Dmva100 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      All your clothes should be made from 100% animal skins

      [–]zealanderx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I wear a cougar that I killed in the woods on my back regularly. I get all the attention all the time.

      The bear skin is too big. However, I am lifting trying to fit it.

      Otherwise I am all gaiter and other types of leathers.

      Good advice.

      [–]ding3 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      That’s like your opinion man. There’s no size fits all when it comes to clothes. Literally.

      [–]615bachelor 29 points30 points  (8 children)

      I usually wear my Jordan’s 98% of the time I am out so I’ll have to disagree on not wearing athletic shoes. Maybe it will look silly on a grown man in their 40s but for me I’m only 25 and Jordan’s go with my outfits perfect. I can wear a button up or a tank top and Jordan’s will still compliment my outfit. But I am black so that’s probably why lol. It’s our style

      [–]fdylan23 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      I wear jordans too, retros work with a lot of outfits.

      [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      I agree Jordans work if you are black

      [–]Poof_Wonder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Adidas if you are white then?

      [–]theM8inCharacter 13 points14 points  (2 children)

      Agree with 99% of the post, except that a scarf looks really nice if you know how to choose one

      [–]EscortSportage 6 points7 points  (6 children)

      Scarves are very functional in the winter/cold months and also a great way to add style to your outfit.

      and what do you mean by avoid "pants" what kind of pants?

      [–]truedemocracy3 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      Anyone that has scarves on that list is simply wrong. Literally get the fuck me eyes whenever wearing them in the winter

      [–]lemurgel 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Don't understand why you'd shit on graphic T shirts. When worn casually, with a decent print and fit, they actually look pretty good.

      [–]careless93 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I think it depends on the kind of graphic t-shirts, I have had great experiences wearing shirts from bands like pink floyd, but that would not be the case if the shirt was from MLP.

      [–]NicholasSnow 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      I’ll wear a Zeppelin shirt every once in awhile to go for the messy dazed and confused look. Rarely tho

      [–]saucey_biscuit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Ive actually met 2 girls super into led zeppelin while wearing one. Makes them cooler in my book. Its good to dress nice but you don't need to spend 30 mins planning your outfit if you're just going grocery shopping

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (13 children)

      I have a problem with shoe selection with shorts. I have the casual loafers that I wear with them, however, this can seem too formal at times, and trainers are too casual. Was thinking of boat shoes. Other options?

      [–]themidnightfox 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I’ve noticed boat shoes are fading a little bit lately, and more people are wearing nice sneakers in the same situations they would’ve worn boat shoes a few years ago. I’ve got a white pair of ASICS Gel Lyte V’s that go with literally everything, and I just added a pair of Adidas NMD R1s that I get a ton of compliments on. Having strong “sneaker game” seems very in right now, boat shoes seem played out.

      [–]3nebder 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      Good writeup. Solid advice for a professional clean look.

      I’ll add personal style isn’t one size fits all. You gotta fit it to you. I can pull off a cutoff shirt and chucks or oxfords and button ups. I fit my clothes to my intended atmosphere. I’m not prettyboying it up to throw horns at a metal show. I’m not wearing a cutoff unless I’m hitting a dive or other super casual event. Use some sense here.

      [–]defyg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Context is king when it comes to "dressing well."

      [–]BroseppeVerdi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Great, comprehensive post. I'm surprised fashion isn't talked about more in this sub.

      I disagree on watches, though. I think a nice analog watch in silver or gold is something every man should have available, but I don't think they necessarily go with every ensemble. You also champion Henleys and jeans, for example - I think with a less dressy ensemble like this, a nice, understated black sport watch looks less out of place than something shiny. You should, however, always wear a wristwatch just like you should always wear a belt.

      [–]coin_pwr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Keep it simple, and fit is key. I also use inspiration from people such as https://www.instagram.com/magic_fox/

      As for watches, I recommend the Seiko 007. Good all round versatile watch that can work well from a suit to a casual outfit. Also very affordable.

      [–]kiwifx 3 points4 points  (6 children)

      Great write up. A few questions and thoughts:

      Scarves

      Seems an odd one to strike off the list, I would have thought they'd make the cut if a Turtleneck was in style? Maybe I'm out of touch.

      If nothing else you need a good pair of go-to blue jeans.

      The trend in New Zealand seems to be darker as you mentioned - the ol' blue jeans just don't seem to get the same love they used to get in the 90's - early 00's. Are they back?

      Chukka / Chelsea Boots

      WHYYYY must we wear these ugly fucking things? I hate that they seem to have stayed in fashion since the dark ages.. they look like a cobbler's first attempt at a functioning concept of the shoe.

      Underwear / Socks

      Some thoughts here would be a good addition to the post.

      Washing / Drying

      Same as above - I read last week that a tumble dryer is the death of clothing, much better to dry on a clothes hanger. Any thoughts?

      Style examples to study

      As you mentioned, plenty of BP Soy-boy models out there. Who are some guys that RP'ers should be looking to?

      [–]DoubleKillGG 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      On the topic of laundering clothes: inside out, cold water, no spin cycle (causes wrinkles), hang dry.

      [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      I think Alex Costa does a good job when it comes to fashion, hair and style.

      [–]kiwifx 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      What about Alpha.M on Youtube? Ignoring the the inevitable loooong sales pitch on item 5 or 6 in each damn video.

      [–]1AlfredKinsey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I love this dude's videos. My favorite trick he taught me is putting a paper towel over the sink when you shave. MAJOR time saver. I'm so frugal, I put my paper towel in a baggy for re-use.

      [–]1dongpal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Ive noticed that looking hot and looking stylish is very different. Same applies for women. I have seen women who wore really good clothes, with awesome colours and design. Really good. Did she look hot with her hot body? No. You know what looks hot? Simple skinny jeans and a tight white tshirt around her tits. Like this.

      Same for men. I have seen very stylish men. They look good. But not sexy. Simple white fitting shirt with good fitting jeans looks sexy. Like this.

      As you notice, you can look stylish or hot. Second is easier, but obviously need a good body for that.

      [–]almostshredded 27 points28 points  (14 children)

      Nothing wrong with digital watches, not taking any of this advice until you post a fitpic.

      [–]availableEXCLAMATION 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      I have been wearing my Camo Cargo shorts and pants for years, and almost every girl I know has told me “omg you can’t wear those, take them off, bla bla bla”

      Thing is, IDGAF what other people think, I LOVE them and that’s all there is to it. You think I’m going to care about what some chick thinks? Or other guys? Naw. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not some neck beard who is fugly or dresses like a cave person. But sometimes, most times, you gotta do you and be a man.

      [–]Ch1pp 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      almost every girl I know has told me “omg you can’t wear those, take them off"

      I think you just gave away your winning strategy.

      [–]Rognin 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      Q: I started my lifting and weight loss back in February. I went from 225 24% BMI fat slob to a 188 13% BMI. I think I could still afford to lose a couple pounds, but I doubt I'll be losing much more in the waist. Should I wait a little more before dishing out a new wardrobe?

      [–]filli1aj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'm in the same boat as you. I'm currently at 16% (191lbs) and pushing for 10% (180lbs). I've out-shrunk almost all of my cloths but the plan is to get shirts now and pants later. The way I see it, if you can put on a medium shirt, you're good. Smalls will almost always be too small, so even a 10 pound drop would make medium the preferred fit. But when it comes to pants, 34s are loose and 32s are tight. Losing those 10 extra pounds will be enough to get me comfortably in 32 pants. Once that happens I'm going to get designer jeans and lululemon dress pants. My philosophy is that 185 will be my ideal weight. Cutting below 10% will be needlessly difficult, so when I get to 180 I am going to recomp to 185 which should take months. At that point I will be in maintenance mode for life. At that weight I should be able to reliably get nice cloths that I will not outgrow for years.

      [–]Solipsistic_guy 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      Hey man ! Agree with your post overall, but what’s wrong with a smart watch ? And what would you recommend in its stead ?

      [–]Orsick 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      This tips look aimed to a college audience, thus Ts

      [–]Solipsistic_guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Now that you mention it... I’d just skimmed the article earlier but I now read the accessories bit and have to agree.

      [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I don't think there is anything wrong with them, perhaps at times they scream "provider" to me, but analogs are just better.

      [–]TheGloriousL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I found a great compromise between the 2 that I wear everyday and it draws tons of attention. It looks like a traditional watch, but has all of the great features of a smart watch. To this day it's the only smart watch I've seen that looks remotely appealing to me.

      Hauwei Stainless Steel Watch - its kinda pricey though, I picked it up on sale on Black Friday a couple years ago.

      [–]DJTrapMatic 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      OP you gotta account for race/ethnicity too. Black men like myself can’t be wearing penny loafers and Nike/ athletic shoes with no socks. You gotta be tripping. I personally was never a big fan of Jordan’s but my older brother who is 30 told me I absolutely must get a pair, cuz that’s the first thing chicks look at is your shoes. I ended up getting a pair of Special edition 11’s, every time I wear them, maybe 3 times a month I always get compliments from ladies.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yeah this is targeted for white guys.. no jerseys or b-ball shoes(which I don’t wear anymore but wtf) this is trashhh

      [–]Yeuf 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Hey man, the look you described is 100% american white trash attire

      [–]Yeuf 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Post a pic of you wearing all that !

      Tasteless betabux

      [–]painless42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      One point to add. Suits: buy tailored suits if you can afford them, if you can’t, buy off the rack and then have it tailored. You can usually find at least one little old lady/man in your town who knows how to tailor a suit. Tailoring is far more important than the price of he suit. If you want an example look at Trump, he spends tons of money on suits (Brioni usually) and they look like crap because they’re too big on him. Daniel Craig’s suits in the bond films are a much better guide if you’re looking for a modern but not “skinny” cut.

      [–]Politikr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I like it, but A TON of this is too specfic. Just be confident and don't try too hard.

      [–]thebigkick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Scarves? I can’t wear a scarf?

      Fuck off man.

      [–]paperpro20SP 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      tips from my 10/10 redhead gf: White tshirt + skinny jeans remind her of zac efron and it turns her on

      band shirt = school shooter

      anything from H and M = good for most guys

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      There is nothing wrong with an Apple Watch.

      Get with the times. We are not in the 1900s any more. Nobody needs a fucking watch to tell time when we have cell phones.

      Also most these chicks are stupid and don’t even know the difference between expensive watches and cheap, nore or they impressed.

      Only reason to wear a normal watch is if your trying to impress other males. Which you are doing something wrong because they should be trying to impress and fit into your frame.

      [–]Jonasena 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Very basic advice that will have you looking like every other chump out there. Your post starts well though with some good points, but the examples you give later to clothes you can buy are not good. Steer clear of H&M/Zara unless you shop basics like socks/undershirts. Watch is the only accessory for a man. No reason not to invest in one that will last you a good while. Sorry to say it but gold necklace and v-neck tshirt is just downright cringe.

      [–]sjphi26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Correct. This isn’t the 80’s anymore, when a gold necklace was actually something that a man actually wore. And with a v-neck! Just no.

      [–]oliseo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Can confirm everything in the above.

      At 42. I used to be fat, and dress terribly.

      Now 45, physically fit, and dress as above, with my own little embelishments.

      When I go out, I know I look smart. I feel confident. And as you all know, confidence is everything when attracting the opposite sex.

      I get many a compliments on my style. Men see me as a threat, as they should, because I am, to them. But I don't get upset, it's simply because they want to be like me. If a guy is with his girl and giving me evils in a supermarket, etc, I'll simply be super friendly to them both. Try it. It's fun.

      But the MAIN thing to take away from the OP if nothing else is to ensure your clothes FIT. That is the single most important thing you can change tomorrow and be leaps ahead of the competition.

      [–]TRPnab 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      3 watches is silly if you're not a watch guy and can land you in hot water with actual watch guys depending on your environment. Seiko is a safe bet as even watch snobs can't hate on it as far as the movement goes. Tag is generally known for being tacky and attracting novices to the watch game. Rolex, to me, is the first real step a man can make into luxury watches. If you're not ready for that then Cartier tanks go for under 1k GBP if you can haggle.

      [–]driprickflair 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Very true. For the love of God dont waste money on a Tag. Save up for an 80s Datejust or stick to a seiko diver if you don’t wanna drop a few grand.

      [–]HipsterGengar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Is your thumbnail picture from the I got bored at work wii music video ._.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Harness boots, jeans, a T/henley and a leather jacket for winters, lose the jacket in summer.

      [–]VaultGuy1995 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Very well written. As far as shorts go, I typically steer clear of them since I'm way shorter than your average man (5'3). How would you recommend that I shop for shorts during warmer months, just go have them tailored above my knee?

      [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Or try to find 5 inch inseams.

      [–]theM8inCharacter 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      In terms of shoes, what do you think about the adidas iniki? I just bought a pair in wheat brown color

      [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      A bit too much for me, but not terrible. IMO sneakers need to be simple.

      [–]theM8inCharacter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That’s fair. I do love my adidas stan smith. I think iniki can give out a bit of flair without being over the top

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Am still cutting, but was on MFA. I didn't realize that it's probably BP advice. Thanks so much for this post, you saved me a ton of $$$

      [–]CMajorThe3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      First off, very very good work here.

      Tempted to take some photos or link to some outfits to give my other lean red pill brothers some ideas on what works and why.

      [–]MrVJPman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This was really helpful to me! Thanks for your advice! really made a difference in my life.

      [–]ReadyPlayer15 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      What's wrong with pleated pants?

      [–]DoubleKillGG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Plain and conformative. I don't disagree.

      [–]10211799107 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Saved. Been having some trouble with being severely colour blind and figuring out how to work on personal style. Also have a thigh problem (34 waist and 388 thigh fit, thanks heavy squats) so shorts and jeans always require a belt. Taking off more than an inch on the waist I was told by my tailor will make the pants look weird.

      Anyone with big thighs lemme know how you get around this problem.

      [–]INTJplus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I find it interesting that so many of these lists omit my favorite female clothing attractor - cowboy boots. Nothing gets more attention than some slightly scuffed (means they've been used) horse-kickers with a matching belt, some slim pants and a short-sleeved button-up shirt. My best combination includes cream colored boots (rare, and hard to find), cream stretch belt, light gray slim chinos, and a white shirt with small gray flowers. It always gets attention from women of all ages, and I've had guys pull me aside in clubs to find out where they can get the boots. If you go this route, tailor some pants to the proper length so that they don't bunch when standing, but still reach the top of your foot. Buy boot socks so you don't wear your calves raw. Wear the boots a lot at first to get them to conform to your feet (and scuff them up a bit) and so that you can learn to look natural when walking in them - you have to walk back on your heals and have a purpose in your step. Don't try dancing in them unless you are already good on the floor. Mind you, I am older and can pull it off - I look like I was born with them. You young bucks may at first look like you're trying too hard, but once you grow into them you will find that they are real head turners.

      [–]MusketeerGooby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Great advice. Thanks for sharing

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      [–]zevfern 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks for the jacket recommendations.

      [–]Afrofreak1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      What's your take on dressing for day-to-day at University? The vast majority of guys dress so badly (sandals with socks, sweatpants and a wrinkled t-shirt) that half of my closet is a strict no-go. I usually wear a pair of dark wash jeans with a white t-shirt, sneakers and switch to long sleeve henleys with a jacket when it gets colder. While I do look good and better than the vast majority, there is no "wow factor". All of the good stuff that I would like to wear: nice sweaters, chelseas, casual button downs and even chinos are too "tryhard". Stick with what I've got or go bold?

      [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That works, just dont overdo it. You dont want to come across as a tryhard. I'd probably avoid casual button downs, but jeans/boots should be fine.

      [–]broscientologist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Check out the gentleman’s gazette. Website/Facebook/instagram

      Basically how to dress like an adult

      [–]thepontiff_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Great men’s page to follow, learned a lot from GG

      [–]512165381 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      My tip is - pick a style that will last, and buy the same brands. Then get to know what your size is in those brands. That way you can buy online or even second hand, any you know it will fit.

      [–]erfarr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You forgot to add patagucci to the list. The best quality pullovers/sweaters and if you live in an actually cold climate they are really nice to have and worth the money.

      [–]Asktrpthrowaway420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Damn this is a good guide. For shoes I'd also recommend Double-Monks. Also, for sunglasses, you can't go wrong with rayban wayfarers, they fit to just about all face types.

      [–]Arabian_Wolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      And if you live in a hot weather, do yourself a favor and only buy T-shirts made from Pima Cotton, they are silky smooth and breathable, they can be more expensive but worth every penny.

      Most high end brands use it for their T-shirts.

      [–]banthrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I found that once you get swole and a nice back (but not steroid swole) all clothes fit excellent, it's like you are a mannequin.

      [–]LordOfThePiss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Don't buy MVMT or Vincero watches though. Seiko is a legit brand though. Do some research and buy a nice mechanical watch from a brand with horological value. MVMT is all marketing, their watches are overpriced and they're all internet marketing hype.

      Some brands I'd recommend: Seiko, Orient, Hamilton, Tissot, Certina.

      [–]Cefizox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      UNTUCKit brand is great for us less than tall guys. Makes a huge difference. Doesn’t look sloppy. So many clothes look bad and sloppy untucked.

      Edit: spelling. And added a sentence.

      [–]rivilian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Many times it can be a better use of your money long-term to buy less quantity of an item but buy a higher quality piece that will last longer.

      "Buy it for life"

      [–]Beibo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      How to dress well if you're over 30, would love to see you wearing an actual outfit of the stuff you bought, seems pretty cringey to me

      [–]watusaym8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Tl;dr don't dress like a sperg. Really, dressing nice is not rocket science. Also girls don't care about what you wear that much really. Don't make it a key element. Working out, having a nice skin or overall face / body / even height is more important than how you're dressed. That being said: Don't buy cargo sweatpants. Wear what fits you. If you are thin / athletic, always try wearing the smaller size instead of the larger one. While larger might be comfortable, smaller looks more sexy and compliments your body, if you're not chubby or fat that is.

      Also idk why you would want to avoid scarves really. There are some fine scarves in neutral colours (grey, black, white, beige etc.) for men. As long as they are not too colourful they're fine.

      Very basic stuff here. That being said, not a bad guide. Just nothing special. You should know this by now. I mean that in the nicest way possible. Many woke people around here.

      Edit: Also try to find your own style and what suits you. There is nothing better than feeling great with what you wear. Your confidence will rise and people will look at you not only because you look great, but because your vibe changes when you're out in a fit that you love and think you look great in, no matter if you actually do.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Sucks that this is targeted for white guys

      [–]troutmask96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Everyone's got their own style jam. I have no interest in many of the brands OP mentions, but the central notion of his excellent post gets it very right: fit is king.

      [–]Kushmanfromthehood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Do people even notice whether you're wearing a "casual" button down vs a "formal" one?

      [–]bonusfruit[🍰] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Smart watches are a staple for anyone getting fit. Curious why they are to be avoided. They are expensive, stylish looking, possibly status indicators. What gives

      [–]thepontiff_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I know right. I alternate between G shocks and Apple Watches (in the military btw)

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This is like telling women to buy uggs,sweatpants and Starbucks...BASIC

      [–]naIamgood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      All my wardrobe is express that I buy online. I don't have time to shop at 10 different places.

      [–]truedemocracy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      WHOA scarves do not belong on that list. If you're wearing them as an accessory like a Im With Her liberal soy boy sure. But if you have a nice winter coat it can give you a really mature look ONLY when it's actually fucking cold outside

      [–]truedemocracy3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Most of this is standard advice but still good for any newbies. You'll also see most of this on male fashion advice. Disagree with the necklace and ring bullshit, but that's just me

      [–]BACONisKEWL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Avoid sweater vests at all costs? You’re not doing it right. Sweater vest is a great way to accentuate broad shoulders and a trim waist.

      [–]ExistentialDump 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Tanner Guzy's book on Power through Fashion and aesthetics is a good read for a red pill lens regarding fashion

      [–]thepontiff_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This is a really great read 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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