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MetaThe Shit Test Buster Game: Round 2 (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by FuckboyAWALT

This is not my native Language however lets go.

First of all I am not the creator of the Shit-Test buster round, all credits go to u/OmLaLa who created it around 2 years ago.

24 days ago u/redpharma7789 asked on asktrp if we can have those buster rounds again. There was a lot of positive feedback and responses. I have not seen a buster round on the main sub yet so I decided to launch the "Shit-Test Buster Round 2".

I will try to release a new "Shit-Test Buster Round" every Sunday evening. I only made 3 tests per section instead of 5 to keep it more lucid in the comments. All tests in this round are shit-tests I got from girls in real life. If you have a good shit-test you once got from a girl feel free to hit me up so I can include it in the next round.

We play by u/OmLaLa rules:


The Rules of OmLaLa


Let’s play a little game.

I've listed several shit tests of varying difficulty and severity in this article.

In the comment section below, any Red Piller playing provides a response/action they would take as a **”Shit Test Buster”**in order to pass each of the listed shit tests.

Then, by upvoting/downvoting these answers or by replying in the thread below the answer, his fellow Red Pill peers will ultimately decide how effective the "Shit Test Buster" was, which of their answers were the best and why.

The shit tests are split into 3 sections: Basic, Intermediate and Advanced.

You can choose to respond to 1 section, 2 or all 3. Same goes to those critiquing the answers.

The final "score" will come down to the upvote/downvote of the answers.

The judgement/critique of said answers are both to explain to the others why the answers should be passed or failed and to aid the Red Piller in bettering his approach to shit test busting.

I’d encourage those of who are playing not to look on other posts, threads or sites for the best answer. The idea here is to gauge one's ability to answer these questions and not how effectively they can do research.

Answer each shit tests as best as possible as if in the heat of the moment.

We will start with Round 1, which focuses on conversation-based shit tests. The top 3 commenters will win the round. There will be 3 rounds total, or more/less depending on how well this all goes.

So let’s begin.


Examples (by u/OmLaLa)


Question 1: “Are you a player?”


[ - ] Kevin_the_Beta -213 points 2 hours ago

  1. Oh of course not, m’lady! Why would you ever think such things of me?! I’ll have you know that I treat my women with the utmost respect!

permalink save parent report give gold reply


     [ - ] GayLubeOil 57 points 30 minutes ago

     Failed. Keep that shit up and your girl will disappear faster than a Homosexual in Saudi Arabia.

permalink save parent report give gold reply


       [ - ] Archwinger 43 points 23 minutes ago

       Failed. She's asking "Are you successful with women, you fucking chump I'm hoping to manipulate?" You've just identified as the latter.

permalink save parent report give gold reply


ROUND 2



Basic


Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate


Intermediate


Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach


Advanced


Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate


Bonus Round

Bonus: You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation. What are you going to do?


See you next Sunday.


[–]womans_algorithm 240 points241 points  (9 children)

while (shit_test):
    print "Fuck you bitch."

[–]Shaney96 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Fuck this shit actually made me laugh.

[–]ButtRobot 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The script runs flawlessly.

[–]Killing__Time_ 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Switch to python3 already haha!

[–]womans_algorithm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man fuck those "(" and ")", its so much easier to just put space and then the text.

[–]randomTATRP 7 points8 points  (0 children)

username checks out hahahaha

[–]riot2100 2 points3 points  (1 child)

def shit_test:

 response = "Fuck you bitch."

 return response

 shit_test()

[–]JustLurkingIgnore 24 points25 points  (6 children)

  1. Bring her one shoe. Start a fight.
  2. I'm your future ex-boyfriend.
  3. I do, but she lives in Canada.
  4. Cool, don't get too bulky. ( If she does it - soft next.)
  5. Cool, don't get too bulky. ( If she does it - suspension of LTR status, demote to plate or hard next. )
  6. So what kind of easy are you then?
  7. All my friends help me get laid, are you going to help me get laid?
  8. That's why I'm perfect for you.
  9. I think you left something in my bathroom, do you want it or should I just throw it out?

Bonus:

This happened to me at a movie theater. I started walking away towards the ticket usher, didn't look back. She had to take an Uber home. She didn't pass my shit test.

[–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Well played on all tests imo.

[–]FrankCostanza111 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Cool, don't get too bulky. ( If she does it

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soft next.)

This is for a plate, right? You really care if a plate hangs out with another guy, or even fucks him?

[–]JustLurkingIgnore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really as long as she doesn’t throw it in my face.

I’m cool if a plate wants to do her thing but I don’t want to know about it.

I had one plate outright tell me she was going on a date with a new guy after I refused to give her attention for a previous outburst.

She informed me of it from a place of spite and anger. I guess the intent matters more than the words or action and if it’s done out of disrespect it’s game over.

[–]supremelummox 0 points1 point  (2 children)

"I'm perfect for you". Isn't this you qualifying yourself to her?

[–]amalein 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think he was going for implying she's disgusting as well. I would've used "Isn't it great that we have so much in common?"

[–]supremelummox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agh, I totally missed that. Thanks for the clarification.

[–]BobbyPeru 111 points112 points  (19 children)

Many of my replies are simple because not everything requires a witty response. Sometimes maintaining frame with a basic reply is best....

Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

Ignore. Change subject

Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

My name is X. What’s your name?

Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate Intermediate

It depends which one you ask

Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

Cool. Have fun.

Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

Cool. Have fun

Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

I am (with a grin)

Advanced

Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

Yeah that sounds good (and ghost). Be cordial if run into

Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

That’s why you like me so much

Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

Okay, I guess we’re done then

Bonus Round

Bonus: You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation. What are you going to do?

Jump into the conversation and AMOG (become the alpha male of the group AMOG)

[–]ArchetypicalDegen 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I like these, because of how simple they are. Coming out with something long will mostly seem flustered. It's also useful to be a little playful, I think.

[–]Scuzzin 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Gave the upvote because I agree that it is better to keep true to principles and deliver short, simple, yet effective game. Of course, we're all competing here and the witty responses are just too darn fun.

[–]LifeIsAWar 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Your number 6 response is the best

[–]JohnnySixguns 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Nah. Too obvious.

Make her think with a double entendre. Something like:

“That’s ok. I’m not that hard... yet.”

[–]BobbyPeru 7 points8 points  (1 child)

seems a biy “try hard” to me honestly

[–]DeadliftRx 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with most of these responses.

Except for the bonus. With plate (A), you never take a plate anywhere she wants to go. You go for you, so if plate (A) decides to commit such an act of disrespect, I am here for me, to do something for me, and I'm going to do it. It becomes as if Thanos just snapped her away into ashes and I can't do shit about it except go on about my life and find another plate to replace her.

With LTR (B), I just call that shit out immediately. "What's going on here? It is not acceptable that you would get handsy with another man." And gauge her reaction. If she in any way objects (they usually do) then the LTR is done. I'm getting out of there to count my money and rejoice in my freedom. My wife has never done this and I can say with absolute confidence that she absolutely never will. And if I'm wrong? Have a plan, fellas. Women do crazy shit.

[–]Endorsed ContributorHeathcliff-- 5 points6 points  (1 child)

These are probably the best ones and what I would use. There's nothing more offputting than being tryhard with your responses. Chill indifference is where you want to be.

But we all have our own style, and there are multiple right answers depending on what you can pull off.

My own personal twists:

Shit Test 1 "Bring me my shoes"

"Say please". Don't do it anyway.

Shit Test 3 "Do you have a girlfriend"

"Yeah 10."

Shit Test 6 "I'm not that easy"

"Well you look it"

[–]odin1111 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Chill indifference is where you want to be.

Brings me to my bonus situation answer:

I found this out the other day at a party I was at, I say this cute girl and approached, but apparently I got just in the way of a guy who was also gunning for her? oh well, dude should have been like five seconds faster.

Anyway, dude tries interrupting our my conversation with the girl by trying to introduce himself, and I ignore(most native guys here(I dont live in the U.S) do that then try to worm their way into the girl you're talking to). then he starts talking to her in her native language (which I can understand but usually don't let on). and she replies and starts reciprocating, so I chill for a bit.

Of course I admit I did feel anger rising up but I nicked it in the bud in less than a second and pretty much had that chill indifference. Observed both of them (I was standing between them so he was feeling pretty awkward. . .plus I'm more muscular than him by far so force wouldn't have been an option either) eventually a lull happens in their conversation and I start the conversation right where I left off. Dude eventually left and just by standing my ground, and being chill (I was really checking out who she was going to choose, and if she still wanted the other dude, I still would have stood there until she moved to be with him. . .didnt happen, so I was gonna make the dude work for it by forcing him to either give up which would lower his situational smv, or do something that would lower his SMV even further)

when he left, the IoI spikes went through the roof! it was nice realizing that I already made the winning chess move by approaching first, and all I had to do to checkmate that bonus situation was just chill out and observe.

[–]nottherealguyfieri 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the comment about how easy you are, I don’t think you should imply how low you’ll go to get laid.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 125 points126 points  (17 children)

Basic -

  1. Ignore

  2. "How havent you heard of me?"

  3. "I ask myself the same question."

Intermediate -

  1. "Ok, do it"

  2. "Ok, have fun," if she leaves, never treat like LTR again, or immediate dump,

  3. "Okay...?" awkward silence "You're not that easy to what?" let her explain herself, qualify, "Ah, I see you think you're my type."

Advanced -

  1. Feel it out, read body language, if serious, "Okay, cool, I love making new friends. Put your number in my phone and if I'm throwing a get together or something, I'll shoot you an invite."-----If jokingly, "Oh yeah, best friends. Psych, I hate you. Kidding again, dont be so sensitive."

  2. "So are the things I'll do to you."

  3. Well, I guess it's over then. Was fun, goodbye!

BONUS ROUND

Actually had this happen to me one time - pissed me off. Almost dumped the girl, but I machiavellied my way out of it. I knew the guy from back in highschool, a quiet almost nerdy kid. Tall and wide though. He came up and said hello to me, then he hugged my plate and sat in the table with us, fucking asshole! He thought I welcomed him in.

As soon as he shows up and gets friendly with my date, I throw up my hands in the air like "oh god not this guy," and act like I know all about his bad history. I make up crazy stories about how much of a loser he was back in high school, and how I knew some people who bullied him. Admit I feel so bad about what happened, and I'm glad my date was nice to you, and decided to be his friend. After revealing his checkered past, I had him stand up and I walked him away from our table, informing him we are having private dinner.

If he doesnt get up and leave, I tell him my date and I are enjoying a private dinner - gauge how date reacts. (It's HER job to swat flies away, if she need help she will call you.)

My plate told him it was good talking but she'd like to get back to our date now.

In the event my plate, or LTR said some shit like "Oh let him sit down with us," then I say "there's more than 2 tables in here. I plan on eating what I ordered, if you wanna talk with him you can sit at another table," then tell the guy to leave my table.

Observe who she chooses to stay or go with.

[–]The__Tren__Train 16 points17 points  (9 children)

bonus round reaction demonstrates a pretty notable lack of abundance IMO.

she's not yours, it's just your turn.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 10 points11 points  (7 children)

You mean the part about getting up to leave? Or what part. Sounds interesting, elaborate

Also. Everyone here says "don't mate guard" but don't forget what happens in nature- there is no amused mastery. There is no "woman says yes or no. She's not yours just your turn".

It's only an alpha who claims the women, and beats up whoever tries to fuck his woman.

In other words. Silver back gorillas are the ultimate alphas and ultimate mate guarders.

[–]The__Tren__Train 11 points12 points  (6 children)

in essence, your SMV should be so high, that you have complete indifference regarding the outcome of that situation.

-she wants to fuck? ok cool.

-she doesn't want to fuck? ok cool, you have a number of other girls who are down to roll through and fulfill your needs.

-she wants to fuck him? ok cool, see above.

im pretty much always open to being joined by other people, especially men. there may very well be something that I can learn from them... they may have clever things to say, or interesting stories to share.

if the girl im with is more interested in him for the time being, I don't care, because I have other girls who I can have in my bed with just a couple text messages.

if my past experiences are any indication, she'll be back.. and as long as she doesn't have any diseases... why should I care?

mateguarding is, and always will be beta. it demonstrates that you do not believe that you can keep her with your value, so you must resort to underhanded tricks and/or violence.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Yeah, have fun convincing a gorrilla how beta he is for mate guarding while bashing your brains in for trying to have sex with his women. His value is his violence - just like any other man.

I sense alot of moralizing from you.

I dont know when, and I dont know why men have stopped seeing women as property to be owned, but rather experiences to be enjoyed and shared amongst friends.

Bullshit.

If I want someone to sit down at my table with me, I will invite them. If you invite yourself into my table, especially when I'm with someone else, especially after I said go away, then you are a rude, inconsiderate asshole.

I dont care who you are. I dont care that you like my girl I'm with. I dont give a fuck about you - and if you come invite yourself into the dinner table of me and my date, then you demonstrated you dont care about me either

And thats fine - people are free to behave as they like - just don't forget about the consequences.


I know everyone here likes to think they're stoic gods of red pill indifference, but try rolling up on the Rock, or any other supreme SMV individual with money, power - he's gonna laugh at you while you play your game, then either walk away, have security escort you out, or walk you out himself. You think he's gonna stand there like it's okay and act "indifferent" that you're wasting his time?

No, lol, you need to get the fuck out little dude. Go away.

>if the girl Im with is more interested in him...

Kek. Reminds me of a story where this Guy invited a plate to a bar, then invited his friend.

The plate liked the friend more, and the friend took the plate home - leaving the original Guy with his dick in his hand.

So alpha. Such outcome independence - lol he got C-u-c-k- cucked!

He said the exact words, "I went ahead and texted another plate I had on standby after my friend left with my date," hero of abundance, ladies and gentlemen


True outcome independence is walking away not caring if the girl follows you or follows some other guy.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN LET YOURSELF GET CUCKED.

Not lool im gonna let this guy come barge in and talk to me about his day and abunch of other shit I dont care about.

My time. I dont owe you shit.

[–]The__Tren__Train 0 points1 point  (1 child)

as you say..

but you do appear to be a big vague on the meaning of the word 'cuck'..

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao. True. Cuck is my favorite word.

[–]Junted 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That wasnt HIS girl though....

0 investment.

[–]Self-honest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's completely bitch behavior. It would turn anybody off.

[–]thebadmanpuntdbaxter 9 points10 points  (0 children)

These would make a strong soap opera

[–]DVidojkovic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

machiavellied

Could you explain to me the meaning of this word? I have read it on google before, but didn't really understand it.

[–]Fenrir_123 27 points28 points  (0 children)

manipulated, comes from Niccolo Machiavelli, author of "The prince".

[–]420KUSHBUSH 78 points79 points  (18 children)

Sounds like fun

Basic

1: Ignore or "Get them yourself, Cinderella" if I'm in an energetic mood

2: "Tall, (insert hair colour/complexion) and handsome"

3: "At this point its hard to tell" or just tell them the truth and say "Not my style"

Intermediate

4/5: "Hands off, Josh and I agreed I'd fuck him for those free gym lessons"

6: "I like a challenge"

Intermediate

7: "Thanks for the offer but I have more than enough friends as is" or "Not gonna work. If you don't want more, feel free to leave". Both have worked well for me before

8: "Thanks I get that a lot"

9: "Have a nice life"

Bonus

I dont do LTRs so I'd find another girl to talk to, duh

Looking forward to trying this again next week, now back to reading

[–]Maxim_6996 121 points122 points  (11 children)

4/5: "Hands off, Josh and I agreed I'd fuck him for those free gym lessons"

This is fucking gold right here.

[–]Self-honest 14 points15 points  (5 children)

I've been down this road before. I think saying anything about "fucking josh" is failing the shit test, no matter what your intentions. It shows this is where your mind went. As playful as "Hands off" is intended to be, it still sounds more like an attempt at controlling her actions.

[–]420KUSHBUSH 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I can see where you're coming from, however I believe the less restrictions you impose on someone's free will, the more they will return and follow you so it's basically a "do whatever you want" answer. Sure it may end up that she goes and has sex with him, in which case that's something that doesn't abide by my boundaries meaning I walk away

[–]Self-honest 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I believe the less restrictions you impose on someone's free will, the more they will return and follow you so it's basically a "do whatever you want" answer.

We're on the same page for sure.

"Hands off" and "No fucking Josh" sound too much like restrictions to me. That's all I was pointing out.

[–]420KUSHBUSH 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Fair enough, at the end of the day body language tells all. Its much safer saying one thing and body language in line with your mentality rather than you saying one thing while your body language displays the opposite

[–]Self-honest 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I can 100% agree that you can say whatever the fuck you want (even if it's super faggy) if you say it in the right tone with the right body language.

[–]420KUSHBUSH 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Mastering your own body language and understanding others' will get you far in all areas of life

[–]rad_dynamic 7 points8 points  (2 children)

very witty, but doesn't give an answer for when your LTR wants to go hangout with another lad.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If your LTR decides to hangout with another guy by themselves, she's no longer LTR material.

Indifference and ghost.

[–]420KUSHBUSH 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If she asks again to clarify I answer "do whatever your heart desires"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually I'd say the same thing but ive switched away from those replies, mainly because it falls into her frame. So i would change the topic into my frame, and pull her into my frame. Or punish her by being avoidant and unresponsive. Then when she asks whats wrong, dont tell her all about your insecurities about josh, she just fell into your frame, take advantage of that, and just say nothing and take her hand and lead her to a place and fuck her brains out. Thats your response to her talking about josh.

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    [–]Self-honest 39 points40 points  (26 children)

    ROUND 2Basic

    Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

    "Ha!" (Then obviously don't get her shoes orrrrr playfully throw one at her and then don't let her have the other. Escalate, bang).

    Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

    "God, who am I not?! Really!?" (Smirking, rolling eyes, clearly not taking this serious, also not revealing anything at all).

    Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

    "I don't kiss and tell" (smirk)

    Intermediate

    Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

    "Good you need to tighten that ass up a little bit" (smack on the ass with a smile/smirk, escalate, and proceed to dick her down).

    Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

    Same as 4.

    Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

    "I'm not that hard so this might not work" (smirk + lite kino)

    Advanced

    Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

    "I like you too but I've got enough friends." (Soft next until she submits)

    Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

    "You have no idea. I'm literally the worst" (smirk)

    Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

    "K" (Ignore immediately until you get what you want/on to the next. She will likely go crazy and flip her position multiple times. Asses her mental health and move forward as you please)

    Bonus Round

    Bonus: You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation.

    Start talking to other girls in front of her and try to get as many numbers as you can. Then use them.

    [–]supremelummox 8 points9 points  (14 children)

    How does 5 work? Aren't you allowing her to go out with the gym guy?

    [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 31 points32 points  (11 children)

    He does. It is her job to keep him, not his job to keep her. If she wants to go alright. Her fucking loss.

    There is no need to forbid her things, if she wants to meet him she will.

    [–]Self-honest 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Right. We're assuming it's a shit test because she's voicing it to you. If she really wanted to fuck him, she would just do it and never say a word. Also fucking her when she drops this shit test shows her you aren't intimidated by him/you're going to get what you want.

    [–]supremelummox 2 points3 points  (9 children)

    Do you ever tell them directly that you don't like something, or just let them do what they want and if they fuckup - next them?

    [–]Self-honest 4 points5 points  (8 children)

    Have I ever? Yes. Would I ever again? Hell no. Tell them with your actions.

    [–]supremelummox 2 points3 points  (7 children)

    I don't get it. What do you mean?

    [–]_mid_night_ 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    There is a post on the sidebar called "how to manage your bitches", explains it perfectly, READ IT!!

    [–]supremelummox 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Thanks! I had it open in another tab and will read it soon.

    [–]supremelummox 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    That was an outstanding read. Will be rereading it many more times.

    If you have the knowledge, can you answer some questions that arose from reading it?

    • How to get to sex was basically not mentioned in the post. The answer is probably "work on yourself, hold frame, have game", right?
    • There were parts like "when in an LTR, she's the woman you have most sex with" and "demote the LTR to a FWB". Do you tell them you have sex with other women or do you hide that (if so, what if she asks)?
    • How slow do you promote her to a higher level? Most girls seems to go for LTR or nothing, in my experience. How do I keep her at FWB without offending her? (I'm not high SMV yet so I'm probably thinking about those the wrong way)

    [–]_mid_night_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I myself am no where near high smv yet ,and am of course working towards it, but I'll answer the best I can, your description is advised.

    Bullet 1: Yes, pretty much. If you have those things and she is aware of them, if she wants sex she wont make it hard for you.

    Bullet 2: Nah, it could be here fishing to see if it is true in which case you can deflect via a joke or other techniques, search "talking with woman - always DARE, never DEER", but if she knows for a fact walk away and find another piece of ass. Read up on abudance mentality, as long as you have that you won't worry about these situations, search it on the sub, should be able to find a good post on it.

    Bullet 3: That's really up to you. You can find a pretty rad gal and she's worth LTR material or you just simply wanna be around her more, so you make it happen, invest more. Since you investing in her more is dependent on learning how much you actually her past the surface level shit, I'd assume the speed at which you learn these things will determine how fast you cuff/invest more. The earlier post I linked touched on it a little I think. Just dont lose your trp principles it's what got you her in the first place, need it to keep her too. The game doesn't stop after marriage either, you still gotta keep attraction, don't get caught lacking fam jus cause you think she won't leave you. Also, mandatory don't cuff a hoe, like ever, they rarely change or ever change.

    [–]Self-honest 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    For sure. She's free to do what she wants and deal with the consequences of her actions.

    Smacking her on the ass and fucking her shows where we stand and telling her she needs to tighten that ass up is just a little reminder that she can be replaced, even though it's done in a playful way that isn't directly malicious. That's what she wants. And she can keep getting it as long as she doesn't make a bad decision to hang with some other dude like that.

    Also it's just incredibly dismissive. Which is perfect in my opinion.

    [–]Scuzzin 12 points13 points  (4 children)

    That "I don't kiss and tell" is setting yourself up for the f close too because you are saying should we have sex only we will know about it so ASD goes down. Plus it was in response to a question not about her so she won't feel like it's a line that you're trying to feed her just to get her in bed as your reply was about other women and not directed at her.

    [–]Self-honest 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    You're 100% right that this is a pre-emptive strike against ASD. Also...

    Iron Rule of Tomassi # 2

    NEVER, under pain of death, honestly or dishonestly reveal the number of women you’ve slept with or explain any detail of your sexual experiences with them to a current lover.

    Even if I haven't fucked a girl yet, she's a current lover in my mind. Let her imagine whatever she wants.

    [–]OilyB 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    'Throws one shoe' - hahahaha brilliant! The condescension in that one! Bravo!

    [–]Hamlet_Prime 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Didn’t agree with 8 and 9.,The others were fantastic.

    [–]Self-honest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    What would your answers be to 8 and 9?

    [–]sebass1223 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I feel like number 3 is corny, but I’ve used it before to.

    [–]nottherealguyfieri 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Basic:

    1) “want me to paint your nails too?”

    2) “who are you?”

    3) “yea like 6”

    [–]WholesomeAwesome 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    2) lol how about ''your new dad''

    probably terrible but fun

    [–]nottherealguyfieri 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    If I was gonna go with “dad”, I would just go for the full daddy.

    [–]st3roids 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    you all seem to fail in the do you have a girl response. shes wants to see if other girls like you - preselection.

    The correct answer is always yes even if you don't have one

    also if ltr sais she wants to hang with a un known guy alone and you play cool is like asking her to get fucked. There no correct reposnse , because someone whos respects - is in love with you or simply afraids will never ask such bs . Simply put you have lost her long time ago

    Just dumb her obviously you made a bad call having such a girl as ltr next time screen better. Go ahead have a fun time is for plates or just a girl you fucking with

    [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well to the ltr thing and telling about a guy asking her out, that is testing your boundaries. If you act aloof she probably thinks you don’t care enough about her. If you get jealous you fail too.

    Girls are not mind readers, I tell them, do whatever you want however my girlfriend is not seeing other guys 1on1. Have fun babe.

    [–]theredfinance 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Basic: 1. Should I bring some flowers too ? (With sarcastic voice)

    1. Mr Right

    2. Two

    Intermediate:

    1. Perfect! Now you can say you work you ass off.

    2. My girlfriends don't hang out alone with other guys + withdraw attention and demote to plate/soft next if she goes

    3. You thought I was hitting on you? My bad, I just wanted to smell you hair (first thing which came in my mind) + with a playfull tone and a smirk

    Advanced:

    1. Sorry, but I don't do just friends. Good luck and have a nice day!

    2. And you love it !

    3. I love the thing we have right now. Don't complicate things. Let the time solve this inconvenience

    [–]womans_algorithm 15 points16 points  (2 children)

    Anyone knows what happens to that crazy dude OmLaLa?

    [–]willowhawk 15 points16 points  (1 child)

    He had enough of redpill being full of armchair theorists

    [–]womans_algorithm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    He started youtube channel, made one video and now gone. I'm still subscribed though, you never know.

    [–]xddm2653 8 points9 points  (7 children)

    Basic

    1) "What for?"

    2) "You don't recognize me?" 2b) "Mark Twain" 2c) "My name is ______"

    3) "Already asking the tough questions huh?"

    Intermediate

    4) "Cool guess that frees up my schedule then"

    5) "That's fine, I've been meaning to ask the cute receptionist at work to hang out anyway"

    6) "Shh, nobody asked" while escalating hard. This should be whispered

    Advanced

    7) "The only friends I do comes with benefits"

    8) "Glad you like it"

    9) "Official? What does that even mean /laugh"

    "You know, a relationship"
    
    "I'll think about it" /End of conversation
    

    Bonus: Honestly, after a couple minutes find a girl to approach. Temporarily become single. Your LTR will yank you out of your new conversation once she sees the cute girl you've decided to talk to

    [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

    Well played in general. Your 7. was sick, will steal that.

    To 5. I’m not a fan of direct dread. Would put it more subtle.

    [–]xddm2653 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    I am definitely not a relationship guy. However if your LTR knows you as a joking guy, you can say it with a smile while still planting a seed in her head (what if he does talk to her?). After all, she's planting one in you with this Josh

    By the way can you add more substance to the examples? In fact, you should scour /asktrp for your future examples if you decide to do this weekly

    [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Alright I see where you come from, makes sense.

    You mean like a cover story? How long you have been with the girl etc?

    I will definitely look into asktrp.

    [–]xddm2653 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Just a little more complex situations that can yield richer answers. There was a post asking how to bang a girl that friendzoned him in high school, and the answers were hilarious. Also any texting examples could be interesting, as there will be a whole convo and a blank at the end to fill in your reply (a fwb asking for more commitment, a tinder girl asking if you're gonna kill her on the first date, or an ex that cheated on you hitting you up out of the blue)

    [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Got it. I will add those more complex things to advanced.

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      [–]xddm2653 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It doesn't matter if she cannot see you, she will come looking for you once she notices you've disappeared. Walk as far as you need, hell go talk to the cashier at a nearby store

      [–]u235shiba 12 points13 points  (4 children)

      1: You'll have to come check the lost and found.

      2: (Name). What's your name?

      3: ...Are you looking for a threesome?

      4: (no reply / 👍🏻)

      5: Can I come? I want to fuck Josh too.

      6: (laugh) Wait, do you think I'm hitting on you?

      7: I have enough friends already, thanks though.

      8: Is that why you're so in to me?

      9: (no reply)

      Bonus: Talk to the guy, ignore the girl.

      [–]sebass1223 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Number five kinda seems passive aggressive.

      [–]rolepatternizer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Basic

      1. "If you are good at something, never do it for free"
      2. "I am someone who has largest arm on this planet" *taking her hand and putting it on my bicep* "which is capable of making girls like you disappear until tomorrow morning quite easily" *while smirking all the time*
      3. "I am just missing" *her hair color* "one, they are usually not that pretty" *deep eye contact and smirk*

      Intermediate

      1. Ignore

      5." Im proud of you, maybe your ass will finally look good" *grabbing her ass and escalating more*

      1. "I am not that Dre" *while escalating more*

      Advanced

      7." Good since you were friendzoned from the start" *again smirk and some playful kino*

      8." Oh,im awful "*strong eye contact and no smirk*

      1. "Lets become official" *giving her high five and dodging it*,"oh unlucky you". If she keeps being boring with this i would give her few more playful challanges like if you find all panties in this room that are not yours we are official.

      Bonus Round

      Just taking her hand and saying good luck son ignoring all his responds and framing with her with some light questions while keeping strong frame and not that interested face

      All these responds are very contextual and almost all answers are in playful, teasing manner, but if i wouldn't feel playful at that time i would probably ignore most of them or reframe a situation in a most natural way.

      EDIT: Grammar, sorry for my poor writing style, its my first post here.

      [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Your 9. is awesome I’ll save it. (The panties thing).

      [–]Lieisnotreal 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      So I decided to play because I've seen so many shitty answers from you beta cucks.

      "act unphased" "Cool, have fun" Do you realise that's passive-agressive female behaviour ?

      Ok let's do this

      Basic 1 : "bring me my shoes"

      Just laugh (imo she should know not to ask you that so it has to be a joke)

      2 : "Who are you"

      That's a hard question, do you know who YOU are ?

      3 :"Do you have a girlfriend ?"

      Is this you browsing for potential partners ?

      Intermediate 4 : plate ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."You realise he just wants to fuck you ? (If she still goes i'm not interested anymore, bye bye)

      5 : LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      :smile: yeah ? What about me fucking him to death at the beach ? (If she is actually considering going to that, you're a beta cuck)

      6 : ”I am not that easy!"

      I sincerly hope so.

      Advanced 7 : ”I like you but lets just be friends."

      Nah. (walk away)

      8 : ”You are disgusting!”

      I'm a man.

      9 : ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.”

      Are you sure you're ready to face the consequences of this ultimatum ?

      Bonus round : You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation. What are you going to do?

      Say hello, and then get silent. Don't smile, just look at them quietly, it should make it very awkward for her to keep up.If it's your plate then you should wait a reasonnable amount of time (1-2 minutes) and just say "ok i'm going" she should follow you.If it's your LTR obviously this situation should never happen but if it does just say "we have to go" take her and make her feel miserable for the next hour or 2 about what just happened. She should cry and ask for forgiveness.

      [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      I like how you handled the bonus and totally agree. If your ltr keeps the conversation up with him she isn’t respecting you and your time.

      To 4. why care? She’s just a plate. Doesn’t matter what she’s doing when she’s not with you. At least that’s what I think.

      [–]FrankCostanza111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I like how you handled the bonus and totally agree. If your ltr keeps the conversation up with him she isn

      t respecting you and your time.

      I've been the other guy in this situation---I was working at a cell phone store when my ex-gf walked by with her new boyfriend. She noticed mean and came on over, said hi and chatted while he waited for her. A few days later she was in my apartment.

      [–]ProFriendZoner 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      1st to answer the "Are you a player?"

      Damn right I am. NO ONE beats me at Chutes and Ladders!!!

      Basic:

      1. Ignore

      2. I'm the guy you're going to wonder about the rest of your life if you let me walk away.

      3. "a" girlfriend?!?!?!?

      Intermediate:

      1. Another words he wants to get into your pants. So what? Everyone does.

      2. He makes that offer to everyone.

      3. As compared to what? DOH!!! Did I just say that? (smiling)

      Advanced:

      1. Thanks but I have enough friends. (I've used this numerous times and boy do they get pissed)

      2. (Doing my best Don Adams as Maxwell Smart) And LOVING it!

      3. Just when you were starting to get fun.

      Bonus Round:

      Just tell him we were enjoying some private time. If she wants to hang out with him I'm not only gone, but done with her.

      Go ahead, I'm not that good at this stuff, but I have done some of these before. Still trying to pick this stuff up. No need to be gentle.

      [–]willowhawk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Been there done all these. Being direct and not giving a fuck always works best for me.

      1: Nope

      2: (with this being a cold approach it's actually better to neutralise her by being honest and easy, making a "clever response" can work against u.) just say ur name with a strong friendly eye contact.

      3: Yeah 10

      4: (she's a plate she can do what she wants like I do) sounds fun, -change subject-

      5: (depends why she says it tbh. She may be being serious or she might just be saying it to make me jelouse. Maybe she needs more comfort and she's acting out, different reasons obviously derseve a different response). -I wouldn't say anything, if she is being serious, goes out with him and thinks the level of disrespect she has shown is fine then I'd find other girls and probably next. But Im not an LTR guy so I'm biased.

      6: same, I need to be wined and dined for atleast 3 dates before you get anything off me, so don't get your hopes up.

      7: sounds great, be a friend and help me wingman me with ur friend, put in a good word. -then talk to her mate.

      8: OK

      9: (this plate is basically broke here, yeah you can keep it going for abit longer. But all the little comments she gonna make in the future alluding to how she likes u and being together will just be annoying) I can't do that, if u want this to finish then fair enough.

      [–]NaturalShifts 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      This was a fun exercise, i hope we see more of this. I didn't realise some of the shit that would naturally come out of my mouth.

      Basic

      Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

      Response: "Do you know where i left my phone?"

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

      Response: "I'm (insert name), and you are?"

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

      Response: "Did i ask you if you had a boyfriend?"

      Intermediate

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      Response: "Does his mum know about this?"

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      Response: "That's cool, I'll be with Chelsea, she wants me to come round."

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      Response: "Do people always say you're easy?"

      Advanced

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      Response: "Sounds cool, what are your girlfriends like, are they fun to hang out with?"

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      Response: "I'm sure you've met worse"

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      Response: "You ain't pregnant as well are you?" (Red Pill advocates that one wrap up, but if you don't care, you don't care.)

      Bonus Round

      Bonus: You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation. What are you going to do?

      Response: Become part of the conversation, subtly interrogate him a bit and get him to reveal his own flaws before saying "it was nice meeting you, we've got to go. I've got a surprise for her and you just kind of ruined it a bit, but no worries, she'll still like it." (Make sure you have a quick surprise (favorite ice cream or something) in mind that you can spring on her (she's going to be expecting one) or blatantly tell her you were lying about the surprise when she asks you about it, then give her one later without her expecting one.)

      [–]Flying_Wingback 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      You probably have the best answers here for all of them except #5. I think your answer to 4 would work just as fine for 5 as well. Just next her if she proceeds to hang out with Josh

      [–]NaturalShifts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I deliberately used 2 different answers for 4 and 5 because of the level of involvement with the Plate / LTR. With the plate, it doesn't matter who she's hanging out with (but you can still sabotage your potential competition if you're thinking about a possible LTR with the plate) but the LTR, that could be problematic.

      Has the LTR been giving off warning sign's that she's about to branch swing (or at least looks like she might be considering it), if so, why? What have you recently done that's set her off? (this may have been building for quite some time) Shit test her (not recommend, but useful if used appropriately) by mentioning potential competition (one of your friend's (not her's) or work colleague's) for her and see how she responds. If she still goes, she either doesn't have much respect for you, doesn't believe you're capable of trading her in for another (better) model, or is not concerned about losing you because Josh is an upgrade (frame control, is she in your frame?, if not, was she ever in your frame?).

      (You could just ignore her or ridicule her for hanging out with him, or use boyfriend destroyer tactics to make her think twice about the possible branch swing.)

      How she responds will dictate you're behaviour from that point onward.

      The most important thing is that you get a reaction out of her that makes you appear more attractive to her than your competition.

      I used this response for shit test 5 as a way of trouble shooting the relationship (information learned can be applied to future relationships in the event that this one doesn't work out, after all, it's always your fault. She's feral and needs to be tamed). Why is this problem here? What caused it? Can i fix it or is this a lost cause? And also, you're telling her that she's replaceable at a moments notice.

      How she behaves when you attempt to fix the problem will tell you if the relationship is a lost cause or not (does she still keep seeing Josh or any other guy that wants to 'hang out'). Once you've established that, you know what to do.

      (I want to know why something occurred so I can prevent it from happening again. Women need to be tamed and then trained, otherwise, they will bite the hand that feeds them.)

      I think the whole 'next' attitude is a copout for the person not wanting to take any responsibility for giving his LTR the impression that there are better options out there then him. Not only that, but i think the 'next' mindset might actually be something to do with 'unicorn' hunting.

      There is a point when you know a women is not relationship material and when you know that point, you don't get involved with them. When you do, that's poor judgement on your part not her's. You caused the problem so you should fix it instead of running from it, otherwise, you become that guy that runs from every relationship he can't control, simply because he never learned how to manage them.

      I look at relationships like this.

      Relationships are a test. Women are the examiner and men are the test taker.

      What good is knowing all the answers to the test if you don't understand them (or how you got them but just know they're correct). The examiner will see that the test has been passed but might be convinced some funny business (cheating) has taken place. That examiner, on a whim, may decide to re-issue the test but this time, the test will have different questions and may also require the test taker to explain their answers for every question. What happens if the test taker doesn't know how to explain their answers? They fail.

      This is how so many men (pua or any other man that apparently knows the answers) get caught out and shit tested so much, they knew the answers but didn't understand them, how you get them, or the importance of learning how to get them.

      [–]simonsaystorontorpy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Shit test 4- the gym lessons must suck if they're free

      Shit test 5- tell Josh I need a spot on my bench press for me when you go

      Shit test 6- okay?! And I am not that hard

      [–]clavabot 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Side-note, anyone know what happened to /u/Omlala?

      [–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I heard he went to TRP.RED.

      [–]clavabot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Is your source reliable? /s

      surreal after still

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      Awesome, you guys have fun, I'm going to give Sarah some physical therapy while you're there.


      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      "I am not ok with that". If she goes ahead she gets demoted (she knows this from the result of previous tests).


      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      "Of course you're not, I can see that you're a classy girl" (while continuing to physically escalate).


      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      "Absolutely, let's just be friends... I don't think you're relationship material, there's something slightly off about you..." (back off slightly, then continue to escalate).


      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      "I am... I'm a disgusting oversexed sexual pig...." (wait for giggles) ... "who likes to do disgusting depraved things to innocent young ladies".... (if she's eating this up, proceed to make snorting pig noises and encourage her to do the same, then tell her how disgusting she is).


      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      This answer is waffley because it requires avoiding the question while implying she will lose you if she keeps up the threats. I am assuming you want to keep her despite the shit she's handing out:

      "Sure hon... I totally understand where you're coming from... sometimes two people get along great and want something more from each other... and sometimes things just get a bit too much and people need to not see each other and go their separate ways... <pause for impact to sink in>... exclusivity is a very big step, and I'd certainly take that with a special genuine girl at the right time... and I'm not saying this is or isn't you... but at the moment exclusivity is very hard for me.... but I do understand where you're coming from on this <then pause and elaborate no further, giving pussy and hamster time to talk her brain into compliance>"


      Bonus: You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation. What are you going to do?

      Give it a couple of minutes and then "you guys need time to catch up, I'm heading out to a café, might catch you later".

      She'll say "no no no, this will only take a second" (to keep both options open) to which I say "Sure hon, totally understand" and then walk away, looking around me and on my phone for something else to do, and then GO CHAT UP A GIRL AND HAVE FUN. When she gets jealous, it's time to flip the script: "Hold on a second" and "Hey, I gave you time to catch up with Jim/Jack/Chad, you need to offer me the same space".

      Cue obvious emotional meltdown, remain stoic, provide comfort once with "of course I like you", refuse to engage further on emotional matters and then take her to bed.

      [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Good, especially the bonus.

      To 5: Exactly. Girls aren’t mind readers, what I used to say is: You can do whatever you want, however my girlfriend is not seeing guys 1on1. Have fun tho.

      Furthermore plant a seed in her mind by talking about other couples and what is a no go to subtly set boundaries. But I guess you already know that.

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Furthermore plant a seed in her mind by talking about other couples and what is a no go to subtly set boundaries. But I guess you already know that.

      Right... it's about having a consistent outlook to express your views and expectations. Laughing and saying "I don't know why he puts up with that, I'd just dump her on the spot" is a good way to convey this.

      [–]sobrage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

      didnt hear the magic word

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

      your next boyfriend / a magician from a land far away / anything stupid like that

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

      at least 7 / Not that I know of

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      Go for it, I love Josh

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      Go for it, I love Josh (assuming I trust her, would be in a LTR with her if not)

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach
      That's why its fun

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      I don't do friends / that's what they all say at first

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      Yeah that's what my mom always says

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      Then I guess we call it a quit, it was nice

      [–]Endorsed ContributorTaipanshimshon 4 points5 points  (10 children)

      Basic

      Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

      " well you got the first part of barefoot and pregnant right "

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

      " Daddy"

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

      "a?"

      Intermediate

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      " Yea , he needed something to do while Julie comes here"

      or ignore

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      See above

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      "who are you kidding?" laugh a bit

      Advanced

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      "buy me a drink and we can talk about it"

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      in any situation - " meh, you can do better, try again"

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      ignore.

      Bonus Round

      Bonus: You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation. What are you going to do?

      nothing. watch. If this is out of character she is gonna be looking for a new man.

      [–]3LiveAFTSOV 7 points8 points  (6 children)

      Shit-Test 6: "I am not that easy!: // Cold approach

      -- "who are you kidding?"

      lmao

      [–]Endorsed ContributorTaipanshimshon 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      The key is to smile, wink. be cheerful. let her think its a joke

      [–]Self-honest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      They can't stand/resist that shit.

      [–]lifeiseasy16 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I think that's a good line if it's privately done. In front of friends etc it's just gonna bring up thoughts of slut shaming which I think is kind of a turn off

      [–]Endorsed ContributorTaipanshimshon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      If you think it’s a turn off don’t use it

      [–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      "who are you kidding?"

      lmao

      [–]Questionnaire7 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      nothing. watch. If this is out of character she is gonna be looking for a new man.

      Do mean to say if she did this regularly she would be in the clear?? haha jk. But really what do you mean by out of character? As in if she rarely veers away from you in public and now she is?

      [–]Endorsed ContributorTaipanshimshon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Some people are flirty by nature / culture / upbringing. It has to make sense.

      I know girls who are flirty all their lives. It doesn’t mean anything necessarily. You have to know the woman in question. That being said - if she knew you’d not like it - and did it anyway - There’s your answer

      [–]thebadmanpuntdbaxter 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      1. Light cackle, go about my business
      2. Don't go out of my way to chat up chicks. My openers are socially acceptable. Then steer red. If she drops this late then "I'm nobody" sly smirk defuses
      3. "What's it to ya?"
      4. "Josh wants to fuck" ignore proceeding rationalizationsgo about business*
      5. "Josh wants to fuck" ignore proceeding rationalizationsgo about business*
      6. "Of course not" slight pausewink*
      7. "Sure thing" forget about her
      8. "you don't know half of it"
      9. "what the fuck are you talking about?" treat her like a lunatic

      Bonus: A)Label as "a" plate not "your" plate. Give 20sec, hand on her shoulder"catch up with me" leave. No behavior of ownership. Plates still want to catch a romantic interest. I dont stand in the way of that.

      B)Tough call. Arm around her to hand on ass, thumb in under panties by small of back, introduce myself to the dude. Dominance test him.

      [–]Scuzzin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Basic:

      1. You've got feet, walk your ass over and get them.

      2. Lol, good one.

      3. Some of my friends are girls, yes.

      Intermediate:

      1. I'm jealous, I wish Josh would ask me to the beach and give me free gym lessons.

      2. What a coincidence! Stacy asked me today if I would take her to the beach and give her free gym lessons.

      3. And I'm not that hard.

      Advanced:

      1. "No thanks, I've got too many friends." Proceed to walk away.

      2. Thank you.

      3. We agreed to keep this just physical. I'm sorry you're leaving, but if that's how you feel I understand.

      Bonus Round:

      A) Leave and ghost

      B) Withdraw attention, run dread game at venue, see if behavior corrects, if not then let her go

      [–]tmavrodiev 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Basic:

      1. Should I clean them while I am at it? (amused smirk, not moving)
      2. Prince of Nigeria. Didn't you get my e-mail?
      3. 4 right now, if you don't count the one in jail..

      Intermediate:

      1. Awesome. I like tanned girls who are in shape.
      2. Sounds like a nice guy. (actually mean it, not salty)
      3. Ignore.

      Advanced:

      1. I have enough friends.
      2. You can't even imagine. Maybe someday I will show you just how much.
      3. Don't let the door hit you on your way back in. (stolen from a fellow redpiller's post)

      Bonus round:

      Not sure about this one at all. Got two ideas..

      1:

      Say, "Nice meeting you. See your around", to the guy and walk off. If she doesn't come with you, cut contact.

      Join the "fun". Banter with them, don't try to put the guy down. Genuinely find thing you think are awesome about the guy and point them out.

      [–]Doable1900 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Basic:

      1.you don;t want me to. I will only end up spanking you with them

      2.the man who's on to your mischievous antics

      3. no worries, you still have a chance....if you play your cards right

      intermediate

      1. Cool he sounds like marriage material.
      2. Cool he sound like very nice and friendly boy
      3. So you're hard, i did not know you had a penis . how big is it?

      advance

      1. Cool, maybe I will let you be my friend I have not decided yet. Till that time I'm just gonna continue stealing your lunch on the school yard
      2. I showered for 4 hours this morning. Shit girl ,you are never satisfied ,what am I to do with you.
      3. ok,you knew who I was when I met you so I cannot give you what you want.You can leave anytime and it's cool

      How you say it plays a hugh role , unreactive and depending on the shittest either dead serious or with a sly smile

      play around with them ,have fun.

      [–]L1amas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Bonus: Definitely gtfo. Not worth your time. Hard next.

      1. Ignore. If she repeats, "you can walk without them".

      2. "What kind of question is that?"

      3. "Many"

      4. "Sounds good"

      5. "Sounds good" followed by soft next

      6. "You're not?"

      7. "Sounds good."

      8. "Yup, disgusting af. Are you not?"

      9. "lol, whatever you say hun (clearly sarcastic)" and continue doing whatever the fuck I want, preferably soft nexting

      [–]InSunlightWeBelong 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      1. Jokingly pretend to wave around a magic wand while saying "Accio <girl's name>'s shoes" but make no effort to actually get the shoes.
      2. I'm prince charming
      3. No

      4. Go for it, and don't forget to do your stretches

      5. Does he know we're together?

      6. <Smirking> Or we can do things the old fashioned way. Let me ask your father's permission first.

      1. Nah, I'm good. <Leave>

      2. <Grin> That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me.

      3. <Smirk> Then who's going to fuck you the way I do?

      Bonus (Plate): Introduce myself to him, have some banter, then get on with whatever you're there to do.

      [–]lifeiseasy16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic:

      1: Only if they are your sexy heels (Escalate and go for a quickie)

      2:(Fun Vibe) Your new Ex-Boyfriend (with a wink and a smile)

      3:Why? Are you applying? I've got a place open for Thursday 3.2:Yes but we aren't Facebook official

      Intermediate:

      4-5: Have fun. (Later say you are going out with another hot chick while she goes with Josh.. Builds dread and jealousy)

      6: We have just met and you are already thinking of sex... (Followed by either!) TISK.. Bad girl! Goto my room! (or) I swear you girls have a one track mind (Shows preselection)

      Advanced:

      7: I already have enough friends in my life.

      8: If by disgusting you mean disgustingly Handsome then yes... I am

      9: Okay.. It was nice knowing you! I really loved all the fun times we had together.

      [–]djh860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Would you bring me my shoes?

      Answer. Would you bring me a beer?

      [–]ZenithPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

      Black Jesus.

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

      ? Is that an american thing? I have girls that are friends.

      Let her think you're actually that new to the concept, then laugh when she falls for it.

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      She's a plate, I don't give a shit what she does, when I'm not seeing her.

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      Have fun.

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      That's what the Barry White is for.

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      "Thank's but I already have enough friends."

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      Thanks. I try.

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      next. Unless she is worth an LTR.

      Bonus: You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation. What are you going to do?

      Cry like a little bitch because she is gonna fuck him and I'm gonna die alone. All my friends would tell me to just ignore it and that it's okay, so clearly there is nothing going on. It's not like my angel would do this to manipulate me into feeling jealous. Now what an ASSHOLE might do is check out of the relationship and flirt with women in front of her. Or just dial back the amount of effort he puts into the relationship. But I'm not asshole, no sir. I've also never put my dick in her asshole, but she told me that it's exit only and I believe her. Because why would she lie?

      [–]bilbo_swagtimus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic

      Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" - Lift her and drop her near her shoes

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” - "A man with a friend called Little John, if you somehow don't know him, I'll introduce and have him shake hands with you"

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” - "What time is it?"

      Intermediate

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons." - "Yeah I heard he asked that to old Aunt May as well"

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons." - "You should take my mother with you, she'd love it"

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" -"I believe you, but i'm not really hard(wink)"

      Advanced

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." - "I don't like friends, they always leave me hanging high and dry, I get people low and wet"

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!”- "Suit yourself" and prepare to exit

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become official and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” - "Where is this coming from? This is why I still think I don't know you enough"

      edit for format

      [–]jango1502 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Basic:

      Shit-test-1 : you have too many shoes...I don't want to carry them.

      Shit-test-2 : one from your fantasy that you won't be able to get.

      Shit-test-3 : Umm.. I dont think they are girlfriends ! Or Shit-test-3 : There is nothing they can give me extra than what I am already getting! So NO

      Intermediate:

      Shit-test-4 : free gym lessons!! Lucky bitch. So girls in bikini and working out, sure I will give you a drop

      Shit-test-5 : yeah that's alright I also have plans. You shall leave and I will call the boys m girls here only!!

      Shit-test-6 : there is no fun in easy things

      Advance:

      Shit-test-7 : well I have few 'friends' with whom I got more benefits, are you referring one of those ??

      Shit-test-8 : yeah...And so is Donald Trump!! So what ?!

      Shit-test-9 : see I had fun with you but this commitment thing is not an option for me!! Call me if there is a mind change! Cya till that time

      [–]rad_dynamic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Number 1 - "I didn't fuck you legless this time, get em yourself" Number 2 - "MY NAME, and who are you?" Number 3 - "No I don't have one ... I have 5. "

      Number 4 - "That's nice of him, have a good time!" Number 5 - No idea, would not approve Number 6 - "wow a good girl? they are rare these days"

      Number 7 - "you can call us whatever you like"(cold approach) "yep I agree" ignore. (ONS). Number 8 - "hahaha yep" Number 9 - "I like to take my time and be sure before committing, don't rush me"

      [–]LifeIsAWar 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      I get the other ones, but why is number 1 considered a shit-test? Sounds more like a genuine request. Can someone explain to me?

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      but why is number 1 considered a shit-test?

      Assuming you mean "Are you a player?"

      Of course it's not a genuine request. She won't believe "no", she won't believe "yes". The followup from her for yes is "pfft you're not, you're a loser" and the followup to no is "pffft I bet you are, I don't want no player".

      As such it's a powerplay - there's no right answer but by trying to give one you're already in a weak position. She asks, you answer, she is now skeptical.

      It's an alpha/beta trap. As soon as you answer "yes" (trying to be alpha), you'll be trying to prove your answer to her and she's in the discerning position. But by trying to prove your answer, you're in the beta/submissive/proving role, and that means beta and no sex for you.

      When you answer "no", you're saying "I am a beta" and this is compounded by her skeptisism and she'll demand proof. Failing this doesn't make you alpha, it makes you a beta.

      The whole question is designed to put the man in a weak position, and the answer is never believed at face value. That's why it's a shit test.

      [–]LifeIsAWar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Wow, so what would be a good answer then?

      Also, I was talking about "Bring me my shoes". Could be a genuine request?

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Wow, so what would be a good answer then?

      I skipped the beginner questions.

      No-win questions should be avoided or ambiguously answered.

      Flip the script: "haha... maybe... why, are you?"

      Ambiguous: "Maybeeeeeee <wink>". (Note that she can't follow her plan which is to express skepticism of all answers).

      "Of course not" simultaneously with escalating touching her.

      Also, I was talking about "Bring me my shoes". Could be a genuine request?

      Intent doesn't matter. If it's a genuine request, it should still be dealt with in the same manner. You triage her requests: if she could do it, she should do it. Doesn't matter if it's a shit test or a genuine request. The outcome to her impression of you is the same regardless of her motivation.

      "Bring me my shoes" / "Suck my dick".

      [–]Theguygotgame777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic-

      1.) "No."

      2.) "Pussyslayer9000, but my friends call me Rob."

      3.) Ignore.

      (Later on tell her about the Dallas Summer Theatre awards, and show her the pictures with hot girls I got from it.)

      Intermediate-

      4.) "Cool, have fun."

      5.) "Cool, I'm coming along too."

      6.) Ignore.

      Advanced-

      7.) "Nah, let's not. Anyway-"

      8.) "And you're kind of a bitch."

      9.) "Okay. walks out."

      [–]nitu08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic:

      1)cast some random spell. " They aren't walking, they want their user to walk upto them and take them away."

      2) "Shh, I'm a serial killer. I'm here on a mission"

      3) "I had many opportunities having one, but they weren't upto my standards"

      Intermediate:

      4)* spank her ass.*. " You just need to do squats. Come, I'll show you how it's done."

      5)" sure, you can go if you want to. I'll go Linda's home, to learn some acrobatic skills."

      6) " that's great. I was too tired of having everything too easily. So, are you cocaine?"

      Advanced:

      7) " sure, I'll call you iota (i) coz in reality, you don't even exist."

      8) " I'm just a reflection."

      9) "Be patient. You'll get to know."

      [–]Agnosaru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      OK, here's mine: (not checked any other peoples responses yet)

      1: "Excuse me?!" (surprised/shock look). "Gee, you sound high maintenance... are you?" (slight smirk)

      2: "I'm (1st name). Thanks for asking. And you are...?" (she answers) "Oh, that's no good. I already know a (her name)... you can be (her name) B!"

      3: "I'm not in a relationship right now if that's what you mean? It gets too complicated..."

      4: "Wow. You should go and take him up on that.... He sounds real nice!"

      5: "Err Wait... Are you actually asking for my permission to go?"

      6: "Really?! I'll be the judge of that thank you very much" (smirk)

      7: "I like you too BUT... I have enough friends" (STFU and stare at her)

      8: "Yeah, I get that a lot." (laugh) "I can get even worse too... like the time I took a shit in the woods and told all my co-workers about it! (pause to acknowledge the disgusted look) What?! I had to. They thought there was a bear roaming around outside!"

      9: "Is that an ultimatum?" (don't wait for an answer) "Look, I understand where you are coming from, but I'm not able to do that right now. You'll know when I am. Ok?"

      Bonus: If Plate: Wait a bit to see if she'll introduce me to him, if not I'd introduce myself. "I'll let you two catch up for a bit. I need to quickly check out the xyz over there; don't be too long!"

      I'd give them 5 mins or until I'm done looking at xyz.

      All is good if she finishes up with him and comes over to me after doing what she needs...

      if they are still conversing after 5 mins however.... and she did introduce me to him earlier, I'd say, "Hey guys, seems like you have a lot of catching up to do so I'll leave you to it. Good to meet you (guys name). Catch up with you later (plate name)." LEAVE IT TO HER TO MAKE NEXT CONTACT.

      if she didn't introduce me, and hasn't come back over to me. I'd just go. NEXTING HER. She's been too rude for me.

      If LTR Either way, it would seem weird for me to give them some space; so I'd join in the conversation. Or at least try to. About 5-10 mins in, if they're still at it, I'd invite the guy to go with us to abc or whatever it is we're doing in the city.

      [–]Endovelico 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic

      Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate >> Being barefoot is better for your feet.

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch >> "[Name] of course!"

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate >> "Not yet, but lets take it slowly."

      Intermediate

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons." >> "Cool, ask him if he can train me as well."

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons." >> "Cool, ill be out with the guys"

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach >> "What do you mean? I am not easy either!"

      Advanced

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS >> "Thank god"

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate >> "I Get that a lot / I have heard worse. So what about that drink?"

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate >> "Can we talk about this after I fuck your brains out?" and Escalate

      [–]albus_scirocco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic

      1. "I have a better idea, put on your shoes and come dance for me."
      2. "My name is X, who are you?"
      3. "I'm friendly with a lot of girls." Sly innuendo.

      Intermediate:

      1. "Have fun."

      2. "Yeah, when I was single I liked hanging out with gymnasts too. I'm going to <something fun>, want to join?" Basically just talk to her as if it's obvious she won't be going.

      3. "Of course not, that's why they sent me." When she asks who 'they' are, tell a fun international conspiracy story.

      Advanced:

      1. If it's a ONS, let's just be friends is a mutual win. If it's a cold approach, 'of course we're just friends. I'm not that easy!" Turn it back as if she has to earn you (which she does).

      2. "No, I'm just bold. You have to earn your way to disgusting."

      3. "If what we have isn't fun, then you should go find something that's more fun."

      Bonus: Introduce yourself, shake his hand, tell him it's nice meeting him, and that you and your date hope he has a great time, and then take her by the elbow and go on about your way.

      [–]8packmaniac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      1: "Can you first show me how to bring shoes to someone? I think I forgot again."

      2: "Famous singer's long lost brother."

      3: "No, I'm afraid of girls, haha."

      4: "Say hi to Josh for me!", then dump her.

      5: "You should work out a bit with me first to get good, wouldn't want to make Josh disappointed.", then pull her hair or slap her thighs or something.

      6: "Easy for what? We're just having a conversation."

      7: If her body language indicates a test, I'd say "Sure, if that's what we're gonna call it I'm cool haha." and continue teasing. If I'm actually getting friendzoned, a simple "alright cool" and withdrawal of attention. But if she'd actually make a good friend, I'd be glad to keep in that way.

      8: "Show me on my body where I disgust you the most so we can discuss it." If she actually reaches out her hand I'd make her feel around the abz.

      9: "With you I planned to have fun, not a relationship. I couldn't care less if you leave, but I'd like you to know I've had a good time so far." If she legitimately wanted exclusivity I'd hard next, if just a test I'd ghost for a few days then continue plating.

      [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Well played on all tests. Especially on 8 and 9.

      [–]BuckNekkid18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Me: Ignore or "ok" everything

      Bonus: Game other girls

      [–]Shiro-_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic :

      1. Nah, you aren't paying me enough to be your shoe fetcher .. smirk

      2. I don't know.. who are you?

      3. Depends on the time of the day.

      Intermediate:

      1. Ignore.

      2. Ignore. (idk?)

      3. Neither am I! I have sex with dates only after the 100th date and if she knows how to cook.

      Advanced:

      1. Yeaahh, I'm not sure if I want us to be anything more anyway.. you probably even eat your pizza with pineapple..

      2. Yup, I also eat children for breakfast.

      3. Can't do, sorry!

      Bonus Round :

      If that happens with a plate start looking the other girls around you and maybe start talking to them, if its with a LTR then join in the conversation and have 1 hand by her waist, introduce yourself to the guy, befriend him and shoulder pat him? basically AMOG him in someway I guess.

      (im pretty bad at shit-tests I hope i didnt fail them all hah, and thanks OP rly cool idea to help each other get better at dealing with these tests)

      Edit: Formatting

      [–]LightSkinKen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic: 1. What do good girls normally say? 2. If you’d give me a hug I can let you know 3. If I did, your doing a better job than her right now.

      Intermediate: 1. Nice, see if you can get him to get “us” some free gear and after workout bars while your there 2. Lol, I’m sure. I hope your not expecting to drop my panties after 1 movie right? 3.same as #1

      Advanced: 1. See that’s the problem babe, my friends don’t make my dick hard. 2. Like that text from you at 2am wasn’t? 3. If this is your only way of saying “ I’m scared because I got sprung too early, and I don’t want to say I love you first” I’ll give you a couple days to think on it.

      [–]Lambdal7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

      "Yes, Master." I bring her the shoes and slap her on her ass several times until she asks me to stop for having the audacity of commanding me around. With a wink though, don't become too serious.

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold approach

      Your worst nightmare...I mean the man of your dreams. 😉

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

      Um.. I have a boyfriend.

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      "Sure, go, maybe he will try to seduce you." Makes her uncomfortable and you can gauger her reaction. Always fun.

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      Same thing.

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      Easy for what?

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      Yes, I will be your best gay friend! 😊(Disqualifier)

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      Oh I haven't even started. Lol no, I'm actually very timid usually, but you just bring that out in me. Sigh, finally I found that special one.

      Shit-Test 9: We either become official blabla

      Girl, I told you I just don't have the energy right now. I'm building my own company, have to talk to clients every day. I'm building my own future right now. I love you as a person, but I simply don't have enough time to get you what you deserve.

      [–]PM_ME_LEWD_SHIT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic -

      1. No.
      2. Why don't you try and find out?
      3. We're not official on Facebook, so no?

      Intermediate -

      1. Sounds fun.
      2. Free, huh?
      3. Me neither.

      Advanced -

      1. Okay. hard next
      2. Thanks wink
      3. See ya. hard next

      Bonus:

      A. Plate - ignore B. LTR - dump her

      [–]ArabSigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      These threads are first come first served but here goes nothing :

      Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

      eeeh I guess this isn't the best time to tell you I accidentally took a shit in the shoes

      Alternatively : I can't, they stink

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

      Sorry, where are my manners. My name is Sadam Bin Laden Assad the third

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

      "I am my own girlfriend" delivered angrily

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      He told me the same thing last week

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      I'm jealous. You're so lucky to have Josh all to yourself

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      Me neither. I'm hard all the time. It's a medical condition, don't ask

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      Cool, I'll add you on facestagram

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      That's what my therapist keeps telling me

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      I'd go for honesty on this one. "I like you but I'm not ready for a relationship. If you want to leave, please do as I don't want you to feel like I'm leading you on"

      [–]oooKenshiooo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Shit-Test 1: ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

      Bring the shoes, hold them out of her reach, playfully tease her, make her say please and give you a hot sexual kiss. Maybe fuck her, for good measure.

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

      Man up, tell her your name, introduce yourself with some strong kino.

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

      "No, but I am still taking applications."

      Intermediate

      Shit-Test 4: Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      "Josh is such a good guy. Always looking out for the chubby chicks."

      Shit-Test 5: Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      "Don't you have enough gay friends already?"

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      "It's okay." Move on.

      Advanced

      Shit-Test 7: ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      "Sure". Keep escalating.

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      "Damn right I am!" Keep escalating.

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      Grab her throat, kiss her passionately and fuck her hard. Whispey "goodbye" when you nut.

      Bonus Round

      Bonus: You are in the city with your Plate (A) / LTR (B) and a guy hits her up. She knows him, now they are hugging, he touches her and she reciprocates (light kino), they are bantering and it seems this guy is not going to leave and she is enjoying the conversation. What are you going to do?

      "Listen dude, it's been nice meeting you, but we are kinda in a thing here, so how about you guys catch up some other time?"

      [–]perspectiveskey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      “Are you a player?”

      Just wait and see. OR A player never says.

      ”Bring me my shoes!!" // LTR, ONS, Plate

      I'm not your butler.

      ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch

      If I'd tell you, I'd have to kill you.. James Bond style. OR You'll just have to stick around and find out.

      ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate

      I have some girls, I have some friends, but I sure as hell don't have a girlfriend. OR Girlfriend pshh, I stick with hookups.

      ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      I'm not that hard.. yet OR a man never gets intimidated by a challenge.

      ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      I have enough friends. OR too bad, I just was starting not to hate you.

      ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      Yea I can be filthy, just wait and see.

      ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      All in your bluffing. OR laugh, and say ohh okay, I believe you.

      [–]Abeham10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic 1. Ignore. Change topic. 2. “I’m (insert name)whats your name?”shake hand 3. “I have a lot don’t you?”

      Intermediate 1. “Cool, have fun” 2. “Cool, have fun” 3. “I am”

      Advanced 1. “I have enough friends” and next. 2. “you’re so charming” 3. “See you later then”

      Bonus 1. Talk to girls around

      [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Nice number 4 + you handled the bonus really well. By that he can’t even say something witty or funny you basically win by not playing.

      [–]Sprehe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      1: LTR: And what do I get out of that? ONS/Plate: Hahaha.. no. 2: Well, who are you? 3: I wouldn't call them that. 4: Cool. Make sure he gets the squats right. 5: Cool, have fun. 6: You're not that difficult either. 7: I have enough friends. Walk away. 8: Disgustingly attractive. 9: Okay. Close the door on the way out.

      Bonus: Plate: Leave and talk to another girl in her line of sight. LTR: Engage in the conversation with her and take charge.

      [–]econquest 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Beginner here, my answers. Will appreciate feedback from more experienced people (not theory.)

      “Are you a player?”

      Don't acknowledge overtly. She is afraid of being taken advantage of. Smile at her, then touch her hair or even straight give her a kiss on the cheek if you haven't yet. Immediately move her or change the subject (hot/cold). Don't let the moment linger.

      ”Bring me my shoes!!"

      LTR: do so, if it's a normal interaction. If she's being negative or bitchy (this should be super rare) then don't. Leave or do something else.

      ONS: same. Plate: "get them yourself please", as part of being stand-offish to show you are not her BF. Don't let her make you her BF or send anything but clear signals about her being a plate. This is important for communication, you really kind of owe it to her not to send wrong signals or do BF-y stuff.

      Shit-Test 2: ”Who are you?” // Cold appraoch.

      Regardless of her tone, "John" (your name) then hold her gaze until she answers. After 3-4 seconds silent (she should have offered her name by then) give her a hint about a normal response by adding "...what's your name?" Anything other than immediately offering her name in a normal tone, turn away or leave her and hard next: there is a reason she isn't enthusiastic, such as not being attracted to you or having a boyfriend. You are SUPER lucky to find this out in 5 seconds (any normal person would tell you their name) without having to test her further. Spend 0 further seconds of time on her - those seconds can be the difference between catching your next plate that evening or missing her for time constraint reasons. Move on hard and fast!

      Shit-Test 3: ”Do you have a girlfriend?” // Cold approach, Plate.

      cold approach: this could be an IOI. Answer it directly "I am single and looking for girls. Do you have a boyfriend?" If she says yes you've just saved a ton of time, quickly and obviously show less interest if she says "yes" (example: take a step back. Turn your head away and look at the rest of the crowd). Within a minute or two politely end the conversation. ( If she doesn't actually have a boyfriend but caused you to end the interaction by lying that she does, that's on her - next time she won't do that.) By the way don't accept anything other than a clear "yes" or "no" from her because she could enjoy your attention while having a boyfriend, and doesn't want to reveal having a boyfriend for that reason. Too bad. She owes it to you or anyone else she wants attention from to tell them whether she's single. Don't give out attention and time to unavailable girls. However you can use her for preselection if you keep hanging with her. Just stop gaming her.

      plate: "Sorry if I wasn't clear. I am not in a space in my life where I want any commitment". Be prepared to hold frame if this hurts her. Maybe see her a bit less (like only once per week) until she gets it. Communication here is super important: if you're with a girl for 3 hours 4 times per week, with a lot of sexualiry, she's your girlfriend. Limit this time.

      Your plate: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      This is a plate distancing herself (if this is a direct quote). Say "ok" and let her do so. Don't ask about Josh or whatever. Don't give a f. Do you care what a girl you aren't overly investing in is doing? By the way this could be dread game by the plate, if it's overt like this then she really likes her. Make sure you are clear about your relationship with her. Depending on her schedules maybe don't see her for a bit after this. On the other hand perhaps she didn't even realize it's a threat to you since Josh is her tampon. Great, then you don't have to be. Let them do their thing whike you have better things to do.

      Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons."

      I would ask probing, direct questions about who Josh is. If she's a LTR she is telling you this as part of being a good girl and making a decision together about whether she can go - or at least she is letting you know. Reward this. Remember, guys generally escalate, not girls, instead girls just control who they spend time with. Maybe she wants to work out to look better for you, so on the face of it the offer is one she wants to entertain. You could try "OK, it should be fine to go but please let me know if he tries anything" then judge her reaction. If she is into Josh or that's what you judge then she wouldn't have told you. This isn't about your competition at all.

      ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      "well you're not making this easy for me" with a disappointed tone like she just ruined a good moment. Then look around for something else to do or just silence. She should realize she fucked up and try harder ti save the moment or be proactive. Don't jump through her hoops, just DGAF. A girl who likes you will make it easy for you. If the interaction isn't saved, move on.

      ”I like you but lets just be friends." // Cold approach, ONS

      Cold approach: Ignore but take note that she isn't really interested in you. You kind of fucked up not building any sexual tension if she says this. ONS: tough one. Maybe she wants to friend you because you have some benefit to each other. Do you want her as a friend? Do you have anything to offer each other? Would you enjoy each other's company? If you don't hear a clesr "yes!!!" In your mind to these questions, I would treat this as though she had said "I'm sorry, this really isn't working for me. Sorry." That means Next. (Even though she's a ONS). Politely end the interaction, help her get her stuff, or you get your stuff, and leave. This interaction is pretty much over. (However she can save it by overtly resexualizing it.)

      Shit-Test 8: ”You are disgusting!” // Cold approach, LTR, ONS, Plate

      LTR/plate: here you have to be fair. Was what you just did or said actually disgusting? If so just apologize and move on. If not (but really try to see their point of view) then share your judgment that you're not, don't apologize, move on. (This is assuming they are serious, not joking with you.) If it was banter by them, either ignore or if you feel like it A&A as part of banter. (But ignore this statement is better.) With a cold approach be hyper aware of the fact that they're judging you very harshly in the initial moments, so here take a serious look, become more formal and reserved, and become more polite. They will TOTALLY love that you are respinding this way, if you did that to a "you're disgusting!" then for sure they're safe with you (if they said "no" or "I don't want to do this.") Treat things like this seriously during a cold approach. You must not give off any creepy vibes even if they're false positives for the girl.

      Shit-Test 9: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” // Plate

      Don't answer this. If said in person also be stoic. This is phrased as an ultimatim, you do not answer ultimatims.

      If it's not phrased as a threat/ultimatum but more genuinely, then you can just say "Okay. I understand". Then give her comfort game while you let her decide to break up with you or not. (Let her break her plate status if she wants). This is what she wants, don't toy with her emotions. Let her cry and think through her choices and mixed emotions. Hold frame and be clear. Don't lead her on.

      She has a right to be with a boyfriend if that's what she wants in life, if she's spending too much time with you this can prevent her from doing that. So let her go. (If she wants).

      Meanwhile she'll probably still come back for fucks, while she looks for that boyfriend.


      okay boys, how I do?

      [–]StillHigh09 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      At numbers 4,5 and 7 you assume what a girl says is true/she means it. Wrong. She might be lying about Josh asking her out. Shiiit he may not even exist. Asking to be friends also doesnt mean shes serious about it. And if you agree for being friends,she suddenly will try to be more than that. Those are just shit tests to check your reaction.

      [–]econquest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks for the feedback! I was late to the game and you're the only one who decided to give it.

      Could you give your quailfications (I mean in terms of your personal success since taking the red pill) I was pretty clear that I'm just a beginner. However I don't recall any girl I've ever gotten with ever saying let's just be friends at any point. I think it means "I'm not attracted to you. you don't turn me on" in which case my time is wasted on her and I should spend that time with someone who I do turn on just by who I am and how I behave. "friends" doesn't actually mean friends, it means get out of her life and space - unless there's some genuine friendship thing to offer between you, then sure, why not.

      I mean this for specifically "let's be friends", not any other language that implies something similar. I mean if they say those words including the word "friends".

      what's your experience? How well are you doing with girls since taking the red pill?

      And thanks in either case for the feedback!

      [–]disabledtrp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      1. "Can't do but i can help you to get rid of the rest of your clothes (smirking)"
      2. "Hi, i'am [Name] and i want to add you at linkedin" // Cold appraoch
      3. "A couple, some has more benefits than others"
      4. "Awesome, have fun" (soft next, depending if i still enjoy her or not)
      5. "Awesome, have fun" (if she actually does it, hard next)
      6. "Not competing, i already won."
      7. "K, and talking about friends, i need to go" (hard next)
      8. "Like the beer you are drinking? If you want a taste of me, just say it!"
      9. "K" (hard next)

      Bonus Round:

      I politely say that we are going late to our compromise, i say goodbye to the men and grab her by the waist to lead her away.

      If she resists at any point: "I'll be going", walks away. later, silence and show disinterested to demonstrate her that was not respectful

      If he insists to come with us: "Sorry but is a private venue". She should back me up, if not, same consequence as 1

      If she invites him: "I don't think that is possible, i'll be going". same consequence as 1

      [–]Proto_Sigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Shit-test 7

      What kind of benefits package are we talking?

      [–]2chazthundergut 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Here are some examples from my own experience and my respinse. I love shit tests and find them to be one of the few ways to reliably increase her attraction. And of course, what you say isn't nearly as important as how unphased you seem by her tests.

      Her: "I don't like bald guys" Me: "I don't like shallow women"

      Her: "30!? Oh my God you're so old." Me: "that's right little girl. Now go buy daddy a drink"

      Her: "You are too fat" Me: "Yea this would never work out. Look how small you are compared to me- I would probably break you"

      Her: "I'll bet you have a small dick" Me: "Yea it's perfect for anal. You won't feel a thing I promise!"

      Her: "how big is your penis?" Me: holding up my pinky finger "this big"

      Her: (mid-sex, she was smoking hot and a total cunt) "Your dick is bigger than I thought it would be" Me: "Thanks. Your pussy is tighter than I thought it would be"

      [–]FuckboyAWALT[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Your last one is just on fucking point, gj.

      [–]yoppdtz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Shit test 1-9:

      Say nothing, make eye contact and smile.

      [–]StillHigh09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Shit-Test 1:
      Which ones?*she anwsers*Laugh. You really thought I would bring them?

      Shit-Test 2:
      Im *name*. Who are you?

      Shit-Test 3:

      Two,actually. Oh,and one boyfriend. How about you? Got a girlfriend?

      Shit-Test 4:

      Good for you. Have fun.

      Shit-Test 5:

      He's such a sweetheart.Wont his boyfriend be jealous? Anyway I'm going with *former plate* to the bar. Why wont you join us later with JOSH? ( obviously if she goes out with him we're done)

      Shit-Test 6:

      Me neither! What were you thinking?

      Shit-Test 7:
      I was just about to say that!

      Shit-Test 8:

      Yeah. I can say my whole name while burping. Wanna hear?

      Shit-Test 9:

      It was nice seeing you. You can drop by to take your stuff on thursday.

      Bonus:

      If its a plate just tell them to have fun and go hit up some girls/go home or whatever.

      If its my LTR:I introduce myself,join the conversation and AMOG the guy in a nice way. OR introduce myself and say 'it was nice to meet you,have a good day' and walk away with LTR. OR they get too handsy and focused on themselves I just tell them to have fun and leave them alone. If she stays with him we're done,she gets ghosted.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic

      1. "Bring me my shoes" "No, bring me my water"

      2. "Who are you" "I dont know... i have amnesia.. where are we? What year is it??why is such a beautiful lady wearing such ugly shoes?!"

      3. "Do you have a girlfriend?" "Yes, i have 5000" (said with straight face)

      Intermediate

      1. Your plate : "Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons." "Yeah so anyways im working on these quadratic functions for math can you help me out with them?" *change topic, hold frame. Its so important that you cant do anything else right now. *

      2. Your LTR: ”Josh asked me to hang out with him at the beach and offered me free gym lessons" you: get up and walk away, hold frame and say you have other things to do, and go do them

      3. "I am not that easy!" slow down your pace and look at her directly in the eyes with a cocky smirk and say "yes you are", and take her hand and lead her to someplace where you can escalate

      Advanced

      1. "I like you but lets just be friends." *"yeah, ok, the thing about my friends, is i have sex with all of them"

      2. "You are disgusting!" "When is the football game on tonight? Man _____ made such a good play on the last down last game"

      3. Plate: ”We either become offical and you commit or we should not see each others anymore.” just give her radio silence /no communication for a couple days and then next time you interact with her, suggest she come to your place and hold frame. When she arrives, let her come up with the idea that if she wants to go a level higher on the bitch management heirarchy, she must do you extra favours like meal prep for you, buy you gifts, take you out for dinner, drive you places, etc. Be direct that sex is mandatory, whenever you want it. then fuck her like youre on steroids.

      [–]mrobbins8390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Shit-test 3 “Do you have a girlfriend?”

      “I do not have a girlfriend, I just know a girl who would get really mad if she heard me say that.”

      [–]StrifePrevails 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Basic

      Shit-Test 1: "Nah" This is on a good day even, generally I wouldn't even answer this.

      Shit-Test 2: "Who aren't I?" This isn't supposed to be a real answer, more like something to slightly confuse her and throw her off, so I can retake the frame.

      Shit-Test 3: "What's a girl?" I never answer questions like this when prompted by a girl. Usually only when in a deep conversation and I'm gaining her trust will I talk about past girls

      Intermediate

      All of these get the same answer.

      "Cool."

      Though I'd probably add a smirk with the cold approach.

      Advanced

      Shit-Test 7: Yeah this one's got me. I've never gotten this in real life so idk how I'd respond. Maybe just a "Sure" and keep trying anyway.

      Shit-Test 8: Probably blow a kiss in her direction.

      Shit-Test 9: "I respect your choice. This was fun."

      Bonus Round: I'm actually not sure. I'm pretty dominant so I'm usually the most high value guy around (my classmates are meek bitches). Maybe I'd go cold approach some girls? Idk

      [–]MarvelousWhale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I like to take my shit tests playfully and either directly escalate or intentionally cause confusion to gauge reaction, usually for my own pleasure.

      1 - /puts her shoes on, walks over to nearest bed and couch, away from her/ "I think these look better on me" "her response" "come take them off me yourself then" /wrestle her into bed playfully and fuck/

      Or throw them into the bathroom and tell her to fix her makeup while she's in there

      2 - ignore and escalate, I just stare at girls blankly when they say this. Not sure why yet.

      3 - "idk I haven't replied to her for four days now"

      4/5 - "that's fuckin weird, Miranda offered me some private yoga sessions just the other day too"

      6 - /with a Stern face, press my Staples "That was easy!" button that I always have on hand/

      7 - "but I don't like you, let's renegotiate"

      8 - "right? I get that all the time"

      9 - "weren't we official? We're you sleeping around behind my back you slut? Bye Felicia!" Then laugh and say "lmao just kidding" and gauge her reaction

      Or what I've actually done in the past in a similar situation, I silently got up, walked to my room took two gifts she gave me for my birthday, walked back downstairs and gently placed them both on her baggage (she travelled to visit me) and opened the front door for her with a blank face. She immediately began to tear up and apologize knowing she fucked up. I still kicked her out tho, due to the different circumstances opposed to just the proposed ultimatum of the OPs post. (That was a tongue twister, fuck)

      [–]HazeIID 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Intermediate

      1. "Sounds cool. He's a sweet guy, isn't he?" tooling him.

      2. "Sounds cool. He's a sweet guy, isn't he?" tooling him.

      3. "Wait, are you already starting rushing things?" cocky & funny.

      Advanced

      1. "Cool, but I might not be able to keep it up. Already got some nice female friends." outcome indifference, abundance; a bit of emphasis on the "nice".

      2. "I deeply appreciate your point of view." calm and collected, speaking word by word.

      3. "Well, I guess you might miss me a bit." neutral tone, then quickly changing topic.

      Bonus Round

      Befriend the guy, in a firm way. He either starts praising you or he becomes a tryhard.

      [–]Oliie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Shit-Test 6: ”I am not that easy!" // Cold approach

      Ah right, of course, you're hard. Right now so am I. Come on

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