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Red Pill TheoryTinder, What I Have Learned (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Zoltiel

Well, I've been on Tinder for a few months now, I know it's not that long and I still have a lot to learn, but I just want to get this out there and share ideas, and I'm also doing this for myself. I live in Florida, and the tips that you are about to see are the guidelines that I observed are beneficial to getting laid in my area. I've written them down over a period of 5 months, and sometimes I broke some of my rules, only for it to end in certain failure, from which these rules solidified in my routine.

Tinder Guide

Saturday-Tuesday, don't swipe, accumulate likes (this is personal because I work a lot during the week)

Wednesday, start swiping and sending first messages

Thursday-Friday, lock down dates

Friday-Sunday, go on dates

  1. So You Got A Match

-Don't message before 5pm, you are working and don't have time for tinder

^THIS is by far the most important rule I can think of. Girls I have messaged when I had nothing better to do at work, almost always fade out when I get their number and start texting them. I believe this is due to them Tindering all night and talking to other dudes who aren't necessarily better than you, but they know about this rule so that's why they're fucking.

-Think before you send a message, I believe text game is an insanely underrated weapon. Your words set the tone for the type of man that you are.

-Minimize amount of "lol" and "haha", seem distant and text like a man

  1. The Opener

-Say literally anything besides "hey"

  1. The Following Messages

-Not really sure what to say this about this, it kind of just becomes an art form the more you do it. So just do it. Make the conversation lead up to you suggesting going out for drinks. I've done it anywhere from after 2 messages to after 20 messages.

  1. Get number

-Suggest a time and place, be assertive, don't ask if they're available. Girls will make themselves available for you.

-This is because there are 40 dudes messaging her all at once, so when you suggest a specific date and time, that will occupy that time slot in her schedule. If you say something general, like the weekend, you are wasting time until you get a specific date and time.

-Get her number after this, and send a text in a few minutes telling her your name and that this is your number. Alternatively, you can say something relating to the conversation you just had, and she will know it's you. I honestly don't think it matters.

-Don't say anything about the date, she just agreed to it, let it sink in for a while

-Go back and forth a few messages if you want, and let it die down.

  1. Phone Texting Next Day

NOTE: Depending if you have the date this day, or if it is 2 days from when you got the number. I usually set a date up 2 days in advance:

-Don't send texts before 5pm, you have important work to do. You are a man and you need to make your money, and you don't have time to fuck around on Tinder.

-Ask a specific question about her later this day, like "So what brings you to (your city)?" Lets her know that you actually want to get to know her and not just her vagina.

-When she messages you back, send counter-messages in this format:

"(Make a comment about what she just said, so it's not just 2 people saying random stuff), (Find a way to relate to what she just said and share something about yourself)."

-Let the conversation die after about 5 messages, this should be enough to establish you as a real person, and therefore having a leg up against the 40 dudes that are currently messaging her.

  1. Date Day

-Have something you can do, and try to go to more than 1 place. This 100% depends on where you live, so move to the place in your town where all the young people move to, and where all the bars are.

-Be reserved, don't reveal everything about yourself, girls like mystery.

-Avoid talking about religion/politics/feminism

-Don't mention that you smoke weed, let them bring it up first

-Don't send weird snaps/pictures (lol..)

-Don't show gym selfies, I don't know why, oh yeah I do. It's because back before feminism, a man actually had to pay for sex, dating didn't exist. A man either paid a wife, or a prostitute. Now girls don't even let you pay, a man can have sex for free and without strings in our society and it's not looked down upon. Therefore, sex has become insanely in demand, since it's literally almost free. That's why almost any decent looking girl has an army of orbiters and gets 1000's msg/hr (no, but close). So girls can literally be as picky as they want for no reason. I swipe right on tons of girls who take gym selfies, and I don't get why anyone gives a shit? If a girl has a good body, I don't care who takes the fucking picture.

  1. Second date

-Dinner and a movie (or any other way to get her to your house). Congratulations bud, if you made it this far, you don't need my help anymore.

EDIT: Obviously I did not mean a fancy restaurant and a movie theatre, yes that shit would be awkward and I do not recommend it.

Conclusion

It's really all about the pictures.

If you're a good looking guy, expect to get rejected only 80-95% of the time.


[–]lordkingalpha 185 points186 points  (22 children)

Lmao that last part. "If you're a good looking guy expect to get rejected only 80 - 95% of the time" The Chances are good!

[–]VolatileEnemy 94 points95 points  (18 children)

That is the truest thing anyone has said in the history of tinder.

If you look average or below average. Just uninstall already, don't pay them money either. I'm just telling you it's not going to work.

I had dates through tinder, it's not easy to get and that was back before SEVERAL algorithm changes back in 2014/2015. Think about what that means...

[–]lordkingalpha 12 points13 points  (17 children)

I have a above average attractive face so tinder is alright for me now not too hard. But I'm in the process of putting on 40 pounds of muscle so after im done with that tinder will be easy as fuck. Irl pulls it's easier to show my confidence and dominance though.

[–]VolatileEnemy 10 points11 points  (14 children)

IS it just your face, or are you showing muscles ( I don't mean shirtless) ? are you showing other activities? Are you mentioning your height?

A lot of factors go into it.

Even though you may be thinking of "40 lbs of muscle" rofl, that's overkill. Most women see something with just the "toned look" and it turns them on.

I have put on 30 lbs of muscle over 4-5 years of working out, but I don't look like any fitness model with veins and all (I'm not even referring to bodybuilders). I look sorta average/skinny. Certainly doesn't help.

I think I have an above average face? But I can't be sure. All I know is I am overwhelmed by 1000s of ugly chicks and it takes me 10 minutes of swiping "no" just to get to any attractive girls. Not sure what that means from an algorithmic perspective. It's insane, but I don't even think more than 10 hot girls would get my likes anyway in 2-3 weeks.

[–]Kurush559 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Out of all the girls you meet, how many of them actively tell you that you have a good face? They dont necessarily need to say that, just call you attractive/hot/handsome or whatever. How many have begged for you to fuck them?

[–]VolatileEnemy 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Well if you're at that level, congratulations, you're probably close to male model.

No one has said anything complimentary about my face except for one guy who I talked to about dating profiles etc. That is the only real reason I think it's "above average" but I could be wrong, maybe he was being kind?

I've been demanded for sex by girls who are actually in a relationship with me, but never from strangers or acquaintances. And I'm not sure I'd call it "beg", more like very horny and demanding. I mean there's no way to get begged when most men wanna fuck already. You can be begged maybe if it was some ugly chick or fat chick who is begging you for sex, but I don't interact with such women much anyway. It's very relative, and I already don't interact with those who I don't think are attractive.

It's not exactly easy to determine how good you look, if you're not already in the top percentile where women adore you all the time. So if you're below that threshold for a man, it's difficult to know. It's easier to know for women, who will attract tons of guys with just looking average.

So do not confuse the top percentile, with average. There's probably a shit ton of average or below-average men and we really can't get much statistics for it.

[–]Kurush559 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If youre not in that top percentile then you're not that attractive to them -remember, women view 80% of men as being below average. And probably less than 10% as being hot. (And yeah, pretty much everyone i meet has told me that about my face)

[–]VolatileEnemy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's an interesting dilemma really. Perhaps it means something. From an evolutionary perspective, only the real amazing get to procreate. Perhaps also it means that our beta-society in the past of "controlling women" where daughters were sold off for alliances and money and family/tribal reasons in arranged marriages etc., has also led to the creation of a lot of beta males in today's world who are now aimless and can't find women now that women can more freely choose?

It's an interesting problem. It just means those of us who are "average" or "only above average" (not top percentile) have to work 10x harder. It's a challenge for sure. But we have to try.

ORRRRR... that women just don't really look for those things as important factors. Maybe through evolution of humanity, we can see that women aren't really that obsessed with visuals like men are (which is possible too). I know there are women out there who have ZERO factoring for visuals, they mainly care about personalities, but I wonder how rare or common they are.

[–]Kurush559 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They dont mainly care about personalities. They care about SMV. But the way they judge SMV may be dependent on personality, along with looks and status. Its about ALL of it ALL together.

Also, there have always been a majority ratio of betas to alphas. The only new aspect of sexual behaviour is that women can practice hypergamy openly rather than being constrained by family and society/religion/culture.

[–]lordkingalpha 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Yes I show other activities and no I don't put my height cause I'm short obviously that's a no no but irl height is not a problem. If I had to describe my body now I'd say I have a soccer athlete body meaning I have abs i just need to build my arms. I also get some fattys I have to swipe left to but I have been getting a shit ton of hot girls as well. I matched with about 5 HB8s , 2 HB9 and about 5 HB7 the past couple days.

And 40 pounds of muscle I feel like will feel in the rest of my body the best.

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    [–]clausternn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'll say. 3 weeks in, 50 matches, and finally just got my first date out of it this Saturday. Dear lord.

    [–]mantis_2boggan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Remember my friend don't stop there and smell the roses, go out and fuck em too

    [–]VolatileEnemy 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    That's quite a lot of success. You must be verrry attractive (at least according to my experience and those of my IRL friends who are good looking too). That never happens in a period of "couple days" even for the most attractive person in my group.

    Do you mind PMing a picture or through an alt account?

    There are a few facial features that can be quite attractive to girls I hear.

    [–]lordkingalpha 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Yea I have a very nice jaw line too and a picture of what my face? Like imgur it?

    [–]VolatileEnemy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    yeah and then you can delete too. There's an imgur delete link.

    Yes so jaw line is a big one.

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      [–]AreOut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      lol nope, for some reason girls today are more into skinnier guys...toned body with visible muscles that's all

      but I hope that will change :)

      [–]ToryTosh1922 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      It's so brutally true though 😂

      [–]btrpb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      That's why I pay for tinder gold. A few swipes a day so the app knows you are around, and then just pick from the likes that come in. Normally I get 20 dogs and 3/4 decent likes a week. Convert those into 1 date that's me done for the week.

      [–]boy_named_su 63 points64 points  (6 children)

      Dinner and a movie

      The two worst choices. Otherwise, good post

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        [–]Zoltiel[S] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

        Who thought I meant anything else? It's not the fucking 1950's..

        [–]LandoChronus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        I can't believe your post is at 0. Who the fuck downvoted dinner and a movie being s bad idea?

        [–]TheBattlingBastard 30 points31 points  (11 children)

        You know what my strategy was on tinder...

        “come here”

        Some responses were “fu blah blah”, yes but I’m not serious I just want to have as much of your attention that you will give me without making a commitment. And lastly the ones that came over response where quick yes or an combative yes because she had to look like she was a respectable lady... that extra stuff is a waste of time.

        If your just looking to poke something stop that dating shit it’s a waste of revenue. Tell her to come over when your ready for here to come over.

        If she says no end convo immediately that way she knows your serious. One of the girls that told you no a month or a week ago after you cut them off will be like “hey stranger” or whatever...and you know what that means..either there trying squeeze some more free attention, there using the conversation to make a decision, or they are ready to go hot and ready. Now if you cut a women off in the proper way you will be able to covert on back end.

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          [–]JawsOfTheMachine 8 points9 points  (5 children)

          Seriously though, why are there so many basic bitches on Tinder? It actually is pretty suspicious. As basic as basic bitches are, there aren’t THAT many of them in real life. They out number the average low class trash 10 to 1 on the app. That doesn’t seem realistic to me. Everyone on there is pretty, happy, well traveled, perfectly posed, etc. this is in direct contrast to literally any other dating service in the real world. Something fishy is going on with the app.

          [–]TheBattlingBastard 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          Here is my theory the puppeteers behind the scenes are manipulating humanity for what idk but it doesn’t look good. Now they use Tinder, Twitter, Facebook etc to gather meta data on all the people using it even Siri is in on it, what there using it for I believe is for artificial intelligence systems that they what to employment in the future.

          So in the future AI based on data collected from millions of user will select your girlfriend, food, drink, home, job, and etc suggested to you or forced onto you in.

          [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          There’s so unified puppeteer motive dude. The world doesn’t work like that. At the heights of power there’s all kinds of different competing groups.

          Also not everything is a conspiracy theory. You think tinder was created to gather meta data? Get real dude. Big tech gradually finds ways to gather meta data but it’s not some grand puppeteer show where everything is specifically designed to fuck you.

          As a general rule. human folly is a more likely explanation than malicious, sinister, or conspiratorial intent.

          Oh, and it’s not “the Jews” controlling everything either.

          [–]f0ster91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          "Basic bitches" flock to tinder because it's simply a way to validate themselves in their looks and beliefs. Looks meaning they feel special when they show their bff they have 90000 tinder matches, and beliefs meaning they basically treat it as a game where they assume that every guy on there is a dull fuckboy and the only time they even answer messages is to irrationally attack people so they can post it to the gramz cuz theyre strong indepent womon.

          They seem so rampant on there as opposed to real life for the same reason theres lots of buff dudes in the gym but theyre spaced out in the outside world.

          [–]bearlythere18 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          Isn’t it reasonable that some chicks wanna establish safety before sex. The come here tactic will eliminate some that would still fuck.

          Or are you managing to establish some amount of safety over text?

          [–]TheBattlingBastard 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Yes and no...

          I challenge you to ask yourself this question how much safety would a women consider if Idris Elba, Lebron James, Johny Depp, etc just name your top celebrity that women think are attractive called them over for a night cap?

          Next to nothing would be considered she’s going pronto and she doing what ever they want her to do so with that being said why would you put up with the time wasting bullshit women put you through...

          I can’t find it but there were some studies that showed women know weather they would fuck a guy within the first 3 sec of seeing them so don’t waste your time safety is for her not you. ( I grew up with all girls and I would hear them speak amongst their girlfriends and can confirm)

          Also to note think about all the men that have been set up robbed and/or murdered by women your safety is at stake to.

          Don’t worry about her safety let her do that if she says no get another one trust me don’t waste your time it opens the doors for a lot of bullshit when you think like that.

          [–]bearlythere18 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I doubt that study applies to tinder / pictures the same way it applies to seeing someone in the flesh, but I get your point.

          I get a fair amount of matches, numbers, dates (so many flakes though) so I think my profile (and smv) is there. I have only pulled straight to my place once and it was a fatty so I don’t consider it a success. Keen to skip the BS so I’m gonna keep trying this.

          Can you Screenshot me your successful attempts? Curious how it goes down. Cheers

          [–]TheBattlingBastard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I deleted all dating sites and pretty much all of the social media I had when I went MGTOW so I can’t give you a screen shot but if you screen shot your attempts that you have/had some difficulties with I can make some pointers.

          The main thing is that after you say “come here” When she responds have a sexual innuendo waiting to counter if she says no like “im going to spank your butt you have been a bad girl” the keys Is to get her emotional and responding...after she is comfortable and has had some fun with the back and forth banter you will know she is curious when she starts asking you questions like what’s you name, where are you etc...be as mysterious as possible and don’t let her get the information she wants she’s going to have to see you on your terms to get that.

          Women are emotional and they are in there own head all the time

          Also if you only message beautiful women with this you will get only beautiful women that reply not the fattys...

          Most guys get online and start interviewing women they don’t like that just as much as men don’t. Women want to have fun and feel the energy by using my strategy you provide that.

          And if a women says no and she is still your match and doesn’t delete you she still likes you in some way. Wait a couple of weekends and hit her up again

          Do not I repeat do not fall into her trap of just talking always talk with intent...make her shit or get off the pot

          Last thing to add who do you think she is going to remember the guy who said “good morning how are you doing” or the guy that said “shut and get over here right now”???

          [–]michaelburke34 12 points13 points  (1 child)

          i’ve used tinder for quite some time. i’ve found that in the summer time i was much more likely to go on tinder-dates and have sex with the girls. i believe this is due to the majority of girls visiting for summer and going away during the college semesters (i am a college aged guy). i’ve found that girls that do not live in the area full-time are much more likely to have casual sex with guys they’ve met from tinder opposed to local girls. maybe it was a coincidence but that has been my personal experience. i have very recently deleted tinder because i became dependent on it and it hasn’t been producing recently due to summer being over, plus i want to start trying day-game. but i do think that it is a good way to meet woman and agree with the points made in this post, although i wouldn’t be opposed to meeting with a girl same night that you match with her. if you don’t meet within a week of matching odds of ever going out with the girl drastically decrease

          [–]askmrcia 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          My experience was the exact opposite. During the summer most of them are going to fuckin weddings every weekend.

          I had better experience during the winter and spring.

          [–]inexorable_stratagem 27 points28 points  (6 children)

          Dinner and movie

          No way. Billy Beta is the one who invites her for dinner and movies.

          Invite her for action dates or go straight up to the "Netflix and Chill"

          [–]Rollo_Mayhem3 11 points12 points  (2 children)

          Yeah the best when you invite her over for Netflix and chill qnd you either dont have netflix or you don't have an account... be like well lets just chill, pop the champagne, and talk for 15 minutes and start making out.

          [–]WeedWizardDusk 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          There you go. Don’t spend any money on bitches lol

          [–]kelticslob 29 points30 points  (0 children)

          I’ll just head down to the free champagne store brb

          [–]SasquatchMcKraken 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          Nothing wrong with dinner and movie provided you close. Billy Beta's problem is he doesn't close.

          [–]dDiegoDLV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Why bother? I close more on walk through the park dates, hikes, and other free stuff. I have more fun before the sex too. Planning to spend money on a woman to find out if you like her is an antiquated idea.

          Dinner and a movie is boring and sends a strong signal to her that you are Billy Beta. She is more likely to shift into good girl mode and make you wait until the third date to get the her on her back.

          [–]paladin1358 11 points12 points  (0 children)

          ? tldr: be buff and show pictures of you shirtless.

          I've literally known guys who just do this and get tons of matches. Tinder is a joke.

          [–]buttgoogler 14 points15 points  (9 children)

          Online dating is counter-productive for men. I don't get why so many folks here choose Tinders and OKCupids over day/nightgaming.

          [–]Zoltiel[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Because more pussy, if you do both.

          [–]didudidule 7 points8 points  (6 children)

          If you are under 25 and not using Tinder you're shooting yourself in the foot. That's like working out but not using Whey

          [–]superyute 10 points11 points  (3 children)

          terrible analogy.

          whey is just another protein source. no special properties that makes it a superior choice to other options

          [–]didudidule -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

          Its a supplement for diet just like tinder is for dating

          [–]superyute 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          your first sentence implies otherwise

          [–]SalesOverEverything 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Pictures speak a thousand words.

          Has anyone had difficulty in over-checking the app? Cheap dopamine hits within a tap is a bad thing.

          Because of this I set up my profile, and I scheduled time once a month to allow myself to download/use Tinder and 4 other dating apps. If I move to a number close by end of day, great, if not it doesn’t matter because no matter what I delete the apps and wait until next month.

          I use theses apps as supplemental pipeline for potential plates.

          [–]WeedWizardDusk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          you went way too deep with that first bit about when to message. Just message quickly after you match before you get pushed down the line. You all think too much

          [–]goodguyjjd 7 points8 points  (6 children)

          Try gifs as opener, was surprised how well it worked. Don't fucking send cringe gifs, just the black haired guy with the rose in his mouth. 9/10 reply no shit

          [–]morexel 4 points5 points  (4 children)

          Not sure if legit advice or a spy mgtow trying to ruin my hookups.

          [–]goodguyjjd 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          Naw most girls don't even bother opening a message that only shows "HEY" or the like in the chat preview. However, "X send you a gif" makes them more curios and they actually have a fun time responding.

          I have a few girls I never talked to but only exchanged gifs with for weeks haha

          [–]Casanova-Quinn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          only exchanged gifs with for weeks

          For weeks? So, did you actually get laid? Because otherwise you're just wasting a bunch of time for nothing.

          [–]goodguyjjd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          For the girls I want to fuck, I make sure to get their WhatsApp during the first 5 messages. The gif girls are just for whenever I am bored

          [–]dDiegoDLV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I had a chic like that. I was annoyed as fuck in the first 5 minutes and unmatched her.

          [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Seinfeld gif game has been my recent strategy

          If a chick is into Seinfeld, it’s an instant panty moistener.

          [–]Oscar_Dondarrion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Solid post, though I've got to say I'm not sure how accurate your assessment of having to pay for sex before feminism is, particularly paying wives.

          I'd wager that the majority of adultery that occurred didn't happen due to the wife being paid to do it, it arose out of lust/forbidden fruit kind of shit as it always has.

          [–]BobbyPeru 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          Tinder depends on the area quite a bit. I had way more matches and IOI in certain areas of the country vs. others. I learned this by mistake when I had 2 places in 2 states for a while. I was fairly new to tinder and I was trying to figure out the reason for a surge in matches, and then when I went back to the other state , I noticed a lot of my matches said 440 miles away.

          [–]dDiegoDLV 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          It works much better for me when I am on vacation in higher population areas.

          [–]BobbyPeru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I’ve had the opposite experience- I though due to the number of gets women get in high populated areas

          [–]Classy_Amir 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Good post but I actually prefer cold approaching

          [–]SasquatchMcKraken 2 points3 points  (5 children)

          Do what you feel you need to. In my opinion Tinder is just another manifestation of the monkey dance. I'm not with that "women should just like me for who I am!" bullshit, but I'll be damned if I sign myself up for a meat market. She can see my sixpack by FB stalking or in person.

          [–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 4 points5 points  (4 children)

          Good luck on your trip to Omegaville.

          [–]SasquatchMcKraken 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          There are plenty of ways to get sex without online dating. How do you think our forefathers did it? Hunting Tinderellas isn't necessary, and anyone who says otherwise is full of shit.

          [–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          You're basically trying to convince us that you don't have to compete or adhere to the duty of performance. I don't care what your market is, it's a meat market.

          Men compete, women select.

          [–]SasquatchMcKraken 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I'm not discounting the competitive aspect. I've never had a woman I actually wanted ever "chase" me. But the arena you choose to compete in is up to you. You don't need your finger in every pie to get a taste. I'm not sure why that'd be a controversial statement.

          [–]Andgelyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Whoah whoah wtf you actually take them on dates?! You can bang them that night my nigga. You are crazy

          [–]UnknownBaron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          When you meat irl for the first time ever do you do, hug?

          [–]halffcaste 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Realistic and believable, will try the approach, thank you

          [–]DancesWithPugs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I did some research on the pictures thing before I gave up on casual fuck apps. Rewriting my bio 100 times was pointless.

          I will skip past the super obvious photo stuff like being in focus.

          Mix in full body shots that imply someone else took the picture. Action shots out in nature or at an activity are helpful. Friendly and smiling at the camera is on average less attractive than a man brooding or concentrating on something out of frame. I also suggest getting a beard going, to signify hey, I'm male.

          [–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          -Don't mention that you smoke weed, let them bring it up first

          Or don't mention it at all period. Weed is for losers.

          [–]BrownGummyBear 10 points11 points  (0 children)

          Please tell us more about how much of an alpha Chad you are for only ingesting certain chemicals 🙄

          [–]bearlythere18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Weed reduces drive, everyone has different amounts of drive and some have enough to spare. If you are unmotivated to begin with, steer clear. Some do fine.

          I have had some interesting realizations about women while high. It’s a feminine drug really, so can help with understanding that perspective.

          [–]Seven_Veils 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Do you guys ever think there's a tribe of monkeys using something in the likes of tinder in order to find females?

          [–]DoneScannedIt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          I think they call it swinging dick, lifting and maintaining frame.

          [–]axthrowawaylol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Get number

          not even needed lmao. Just go from tinder to date. First meeting = always sex.

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          [–]615bachelor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Create a new account and put that your age is 22. That’s what I do . Most chicks only want to be pumped and dumped anyway so having your age at 22 will have you matching with girls much younger. . It’s not like she will go in your wallet and see your actual birth date. Lowering your age works. Most women at the 18-20 age won’t be hooking up with guys your age so just lie. Sexual strategy is amoral but alpha fucks beta bucks is amoral too . The game is the game lol

          [–]thegreatcornholio42 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I saw the whole no text before 5 thing. What about those of us who work nights during the week? I have weekends off but work from 2am to 10am Mon-Fri.

          [–]Zoltiel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yeah I guess it depends on what type of girls you're going for. The ones where I live usually work 9-5 in some office somewhere.

          [–]Tek_Analyst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Tinder is the easiest thing in the world. Must’ve had around 25 in a years time on Tinder. And that’s cause I would recycle.

          Honestly if feels kinda fucking dirty. STD’s are a real thing

          [–]8887777 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Great post. But you're missing out on one thing: location. Location matters. I'm currently living in a country where I only match with 4s at best but my last 4 countries I've been matching with (way more matches as well) 6s easily and some 7s here and there.

          That being said, fuck Tinder. Picking up 8s with bar game or day game is so much more easier and the pool of women is of higher quality.

          [–]Zoltiel[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I talked about location in the first paragraph

          [–]whiskyjeezus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Dude how do these Tinder guides keep leaving out the #1 rule? Set your distance radius to the lowest value. When a girl outside it swipes you right, she still ends up in your queue. Saves so much time and bullshit by minimizing the list of profiles to swipe through. Works pretty much the same way on Bumble too

          [–]havelbrandybuck 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          Never take a woman out to dinner on a first or second date. It's not worth the time, cost and is almost always a free meal ticket. It took me 2-3 bad dinner dates to understand this.

          Always default to the hour coffee date, buy her a coffee and make an excuse to leave after one hour.

          [–]whuttupfoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Take her out for dinner in 4 months.

          [–]Zoltiel[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Ordering a $10 pizza or buying $10 worth of groceries to cook at your house is not cost effective?

          [–]Geleemann 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          No. Because the one pizza is just for me.