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MetaThe end of TRP (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by johnpayne10

This is going to be a long post. Request you to read it till the end.

 

Just logged in to discover that TRP has been quarantined. We are asked to visit a phony website, dedicated to gender studies and 'Positive Masculinity'. As if these idiots could teach us what masculinity is.

Btw, it has been a real pleasure to meet all of you guys. I am not going to go on and on about how amazing this community is, because of course we all know it. Just want to share some thoughts before this community dies out. (I know we have our backup site, but this subreddit was a lifesaver for many. So it feels bad to see it being treated like this.)

 

We are actually living in a dystopia. I had read 'Fahrenheit 451' few years back. It is freakish that I am experiencing something similar, again and again, in real life. It is absolutely crazy.

-No free speech.

-We will get screwed in real life for some stupid shit we say or do online.

-The current generation of entitled cunts, armed with legal measures designed to screw our lives. The way legal system, media is set up against men.

-Glorification of LGBT community, as if they are shining examples for all of us to follow.

-The unholy alliance of capitalism and feminism destroying masculinity, shaming our glorious past, and actually twisting and changing our outlook on everything. (Just check out google doodles if you doubt this. Capitalism and feminism go hand in hand. The primary reason for behind this being, women spend far, far more than men. When was the last time you purchased a shirt? Take a look at your female colleagues and see how much money they spend on shopping, every month. It will be more than your yearly spending.)**

And the worst part is, this doesn’t stop here. It is the beginning of the end.

 

Welcome to reality. It is 2018, and our world is more fucked up than ever. On paper, we have freedom, we can do and say whatever we want. But if you can open your eyes, everyone is fucking enslaved, reduced to a cog into the corporate machine. Even our entertainment is designed to indoctrinate people. The catatonic lives described in dystopian books are already a reality. Any individuality, any sort of right-wing behaviour is shamed and LEGALLY banned. These hypocrites have started shaming and banning everything, openly defaming and demonizing masculinity.

Already, majority of us can be hardly be called men. We are all fortunate enough to discover TRP and change for better. Pre-TRP, we were not any better than the rest of us. The hopelessly ignorant, emasculated hordes of men, lacking guidance and a decent role model in life. Physically male, but not really worthy of being called a ‘man’.

 

‘Genders are equal’, ‘Gender is a social construct’, well, our modern age is turning these lies into a reality. Emasculating men to the extreme by hook or crook. Right from their birth. Schools, colleges, media, all forms of entertainment, laws, politics, everything against us. If we allow this to go on, just imagine what the future will look like. No gender differences left. For real.

Men are similar to women, with their genitals being the only difference left. Women will be pedestalized like never before, and the radical feminist ideology which we laugh at today, might very well become reality.

I am not even going to talk about how feminism and Islam go hand-in-hand. While ironically Islam is anti-feminism, it is also anti-all of us. Everyone who is not a Muslim. Just take a look at their history or read their holy books to realize this. There is no such thing as a ‘radical Muslim’. They are all fucking radical.

 

The saddest thing though, the only reason this sort of culture has not been torn apart is that men are not even aware that there is a WAR declared on them. (Red pilled men are the only exception). They continue to live in this catatonic state, not fighting back even when shit is hitting the fan from all sides. Not saying a word when their lives are becoming worse than ever. It makes me wonder if 'Enjoy The Decline' is the right approach or if we should actually try to change the world and make it a better place. Because this shit is undoubtedly going to get worse.

 

Free speech is already gone....

The next thing could be internet censorship and harsh laws against any form of individuality that does not fall in line with the leftist ideology....

We still have a long life ahead of us. If we decide to have children, we obviously will care about their future. (Even if you are red pilled, I am pretty sure you at least consider the prospect of having children. Afterall, we are egotistical and prefer to see our genes remain in the gene pool.) Not to mention, the things that we have done on internet (participating in TRP for example) could come back to bite us. Imagine a toxic men registry, like a sex offenders registry. It is not exactly far-fetched considering current socio-political climate.

 

I would like to see your views on this. We cannot really enjoy the decline, if legally and socially, we are not allowed to enjoy it. If we see our children suffering because of all this shit. We will always remain unplugged, seeing the world for what it is. We cannot really enjoy, or even have freedom as our rights go down the drain slowly and steadily.

No matter how nihilistic/self-centred we are, declining society will take a toll on our individual lives. Do we still take the stand ‘Enjoy the decline’ or do we try to make the world a better place?

Slowly red pilling majority of men, for example. If the men leave, women will follow because ‘female independence’ is an illusion.

 

Essentially, if all men become red pilled, conservative, real men, that would force all women to become more feminine, leading to a radical change in the current socio-political climate. Radical leftist ideology, ‘politically correct’ culture, feminism, all its associated problems would collapse right away if we simply red pill all men.

Just imagine a world where all men are unplugged. We all see and call bullshit bullshit. No sugarcoating, no fantasies. A far better world than what we live in. With tons of other benefits. A world where men are men and women are women. All the problems that men and women suffer from will disappear and the world would become a better, happier place for all of us and our future generations.

What do you guys think?


[–]accountcircumvention 87 points88 points  (12 children)

Weird to think we live in some dystopian timeline. Everything you say, think, feel, or act can be used against you with shame and guilt, even the sacred aspects of western civilization (free speech, rule of law, tolerance of ideas, and not guilty until proven otherwise) have all been dispensed with. This is the new reality guys.

[–]tempolaca 46 points47 points  (7 children)

(free speech, rule of law, tolerance of ideas, and not guilty until proven otherwise

We had to fight for everyone of those rights, with blood and bullets. We take them for granted but they were not.

We might have to fight for them again.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 31 points32 points  (3 children)

History has knack of repeating itself.

Resistance takes power -->power corrupts -->creates resistance-->Resistance takes power

I believe they've made a major tactical error, which they clearly haven't realized.

They've been playing the opposite game very well up until now:

If you're not for womens rights, you must be against it.

If your not for black lives, you must be racist etc.

When in reality most people were simply agnostic towards their views, or atleast the extent to which they were trying to push them. Which is why there hasn't been a cohesive kick back against their movement.

There hasn't been an opposing agenda the other side is trying to push.

The opposite of censorship however is free speech. They do not have the supposed moral high ground on this one. It will be their downfall. They are giving their "enemy" a common cause to get behind.

They had most of their detractors fragmented into different sects(divide and conquer)

By attempting to censor all those fragmented groups, they now have a common cause to rally behind in opposing the liberal left. Free Speech.

They want to censor all opposition and create an echo chamber. All they're really doing is creating a them and us.

I think their loud voices have deluded them into thinking they are the overwhelming majority. I don't think that they are.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 13 points14 points  (2 children)

You're forgetting apathy. People just don't give a shit unless it's negatively affecting them enough. Let's be honest, most people aren't going to fight for free speech, even if they agree with the true notion of what it represents and the benefits gained from it.

In the great words of George Carlin, "they're too busy at the mall taking their credit cards out of their fanny packs and buying a pair of sneakers with lights in them"

An exaggeration but still accurate. People hate that there's Leftist nutcases fighting against free speech, sure. Yet none will lift a finger to do anything about it. Myself included.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't think a fight is required at this point. The right still holds office. Therefore the lib left are still classified as the resistance.

What they are doing however is packaging groups who may have been neutral into rather being the opposition, which is simply poor politics. i.e If you don't agree with everything we say, you are the enemy.

When it comes time to vote(with our wallets or ballots) I think they are only hampering their own cause.

If they took office and started implementing policy, then it will affect many, and many will resist.

For now, I think guys like Cuck Peterson, Crowder, Sam Harris, Dave Rubin, Milo, Alex Jones are already garnering tremendous support for free speech without the left even being in office. I think at this point, more people will simply filter into their following.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do you suggest? What should I do when twitter bans me and silences me because I share my ideas? And when Reddit follows up on ditto? These corporate conglomerate machines have a lot of power. Far too much.

[–]accountcircumvention 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Even the English gentry understood the need for legal equality and justice, these are rights that go back to 1215 - when King John of England enshrined them in the Magna Carta.

[–]iwasthebeaver 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Presumption of innocence goes back to Hammarabi's Code. So about 4000 years of civilization is getting thrown out the window.

[–]U-94 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Then lie. Pretend. Play the game. If I said half the shit I actually believe deep in my skull at the bar on Friday night, I'd swiftly find myself with no one to hang out with, let alone female company after last call.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Laws of fucking power people. Use them to your benefit

[–]thirdincomestream 44 points45 points  (11 children)

. It makes me wonder if 'Enjoy The Decline' is the right approach

We were wrong.

We thought we would be allowed to enjoy the decline, but we had no idea what the decline was actually going to look like. From here, it looks like "enjoying" the decline includes standing idly as the destruction of the concept of innocence until proven guilty, the weaponization of not just legitimate mis-steps with women in your life, but the weaponization of women as a category altogether in the form of #metoo, and we are seeing very powerful and machiavellian tactics that our side is not utilizing.

TRP underestimated and miscalculated the mainstream, in my opinion. While this sub helps with practical advice for men who just want to get laid, the "enjoy the decline" bit is just willfully choosing to stick our heads in the sand while the world around us becomes more and more radical and antagonistic towards us.

The decline will not be enjoyable. Our approach has to change.

[–]SKRedPill 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It won't be, because you're never insulated from the reality of life. You see the decline starts with getting rid of the competition...

[–]frooschnate 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I think enjoying The Decline only works with a nihilistic approach which has this mediocrity mentality attached to it; as in "I won't do anything to save myself or my heirs."

Men before us didn't bend over and let themselves get fucked, you gotta fight for your rights and shit.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

And we are supposed to do shit for our future generations. Because if we don't, who will? The blue-haired, bisexual feminists?

As men, it is natural for us to desire continued existence of our genes in the gene pool. Even after we die, we continue to live through our offsprings. We ourselves are the products of hundreds of thousands of our ancestors. If they had a 'I don't care for society' outlook on life, we wouldn't be here in the first place.

[–]frooschnate 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Agreed. I think thinking unselfishly for the greater good is one pill you must swallow as a man.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Men build civilizations. So we cannot just skirt our job and watch the world go to shit.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The recent Kavanaugh shit exactly describes what you have said. Women have become weapons for a political agenda.

A random nobody cries rape 30 years later and you are gone. A entire lifetime worth of efforts and achievements are ignored, and suddenly everyone treats you like a serial rapist.

[–]Celicni 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I never understood the "enjoy the decline"...if you finally know the fucking truth about this world, why not try to improve it? Like sure, the world doesn't give a shit about you, but is meaningless enjoyment all you want out of life? Do you not want to leave something behind?

If you want children, surely you want to leave the world a better place for them.

[–]SKRedPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alphas in bed is one thing. Alphas that build worlds are another.

[–]besee777 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I got my tinfoil hat on and I’m ready to party! 🎉

[–]johnpayne10[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for making me laugh. I don't know if you are trolling, sarcastic, or just plain autistic. Either ways, you are funny.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 18 points19 points  (22 children)

Radical leftist ideology, ‘politically correct’ culture, feminism, all its associated problems would collapse right away if we simply red pill all men.

The Red Pill is not a crusade to save society.

The idea that you can and must become personally responsible for rescuing men from themselves is Blue Pill thinking. It's that self-sacrificing "do it for society" bullshit that had you hitched to someone else's wagon.

Every man must save himself, and he must want it.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 8 points9 points  (14 children)

I agree with you. But we should consider that many men don't really have a chance in life. Without anyone guiding them, without a decent male role model, without TRP, they literally stand zero chance of having the kind of life they want.

You can see this all around you. Probably even among your friends, you can see how hopelessly blue pilled they are. Our socio-political culture has done an excellent job at emasculating them all.

Besides, we have to function in a society. We cannot really save ourselves if the laws and societal structure is set against us. You cannot protect yourself if you get arrested for staring at a girl for 5 seconds. (Netflix already has this policy. I would not be surprised to see similar laws becoming the norm everywhere else.)

My point is, if we don't take any action and act in a 'don't care about society' manner, there will be a point where we won't have any freedom/rights to enjoy anymore. Our lives will be dictated by a autocratic leftist machine who will ensure that our lives become as miserable as possible. And it will be too late by then.

[–]ThePlague 0 points1 point  (11 children)

That's MRA's mission, not TRP.

[–]gondur 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Without anyone guiding them, without a decent male role model,

But the mentoring part is TRP's role, the legal/society change part is MRA's part

[–]ThePlague -2 points-1 points  (7 children)

They're men: if they want to change, they will. No amount of examples, stories, or "mentoring" will convert a dedicated Boxer-like BP simp. Hell, if anything, the quarantining might give TRP even more of a panache for the curious.

[–]Celicni 2 points3 points  (3 children)

What if someone WANTS to change, but doesn't know HOW?

[–]ThePlague 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Then they'll either figure it out, or they won't. It's not rocket surgery. The vast majority of what is called "Red Pill" is age-old wisdom. RP categorizes it and makes it a system of sorts, but it's not really new information.

But let's say what you maintain is true, that some men need help and can't figure it out on their own. Reddit is a small corner of the internet, a small step above 4chan as far as message boards go. There are plenty of other resources.

[–]Celicni 3 points4 points  (1 child)

small corner of the internet

It's one of the most popular website in America, and one of the only ones where you could previously discuss shit you wanted to without being judged IRL because unless you're a fucking moron you won't get Dox'd (or unless you're a really important member of the community so they bring out the big guns looking for you).

Try sharing TRP on fucking facebook or whatever, see how that goes.

And yes, it is true. I'm pretty sure I'm fucking autistic (not diagnosed), I would literally never figure all this shit on my own (yet somehow I've got the entire rest of the "alt-right" package figured on my own, guess that comes from being in a non-wealthy country). I believed authority figures and what they told me. Yet I was not getting the results I wanted. I wanted to change, I just didn't know how. And having TRP on a site where a lot of soyboys spend a fuckload of time, makes it easier to help them.

[–]gondur 0 points1 point  (2 children)

if they want to change, they will.

If they have guidance and know how and which direction to change. Mentoring IS crucial.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. Even we guys wouldn't be any better without TRP in our lives. I am pretty sure TRP served as a mentor for most of us.

[–]dontuseliqui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mentoring IS crucial.

It also saves time (and lives).

[–]johnpayne10[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Look at MRA guys. Not many people take them seriously. The reason being blue pilled men cannot understand how crucial these things are. They are blind, stuck in the matrix.

I would say it is about time we lend a hand to MRA because red pill is actually capable of making a change. Of making a change on a larger scale than ever. All we have to do is wake up men. Sure, we will face competition, but hey, we are men. No sweat. Competing for the top position is far better than living in a shitty, dystopian world.

[–]ThePlague 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish you luck in your endeavor.

[–]SKRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men like this are the ones who built this place. Choice is yours, whether you submit to society's frame or society submits to yours. But the choice ain't easy.

Alphas in bed are one thing. Alphas who build worlds are another level. Men always knew that the ultimate power lay in creating one's own kingdom, because there's really no way you can have all the power in someone else's place, playing by their rules.

[–]Disobedient_Citizen1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We can bring the horse to the water, and that is all. If we try to coerce the horse to drink for its own good its thirst will be quenched but it will resent us for it. The horse needs to realise itself that it needs to drink or die of dehydration.

We can certainly guide and mentor those who need it but only if they know and accept that they need our guidance.

Point is and always boils down to the fact that it is the purpose of TRP to both inform the individual as to the reality of society, and to equip the individual to make the choice on what to do about it. Once you take the red pill you can never unlearn, you lose your blissfull ignorance forever but it is your choice how you want to live your life from then on. If yo want to say fuck it andgive in to the system then thats your choice. If you want to rise above it all thats your choice. If you want to avoid having kids and not get married thats your choice. If you want to date a single mom and be a beta provider to her bastards thats your choice.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's this bullshit that made me leave this sub after doing a LOT of writing for it. Literally nothing you love in life would be here if a long line of your genetics hadn't been self sacrificing for the greater society.

Every man who tries to 'save himself' will be lined up against a wall and shot by men working together as a self sacrificing team.

The fact this type of rhetoric is coming from a 'vanguard' makes me sick to my stomach.

It's ok to be so disgusted with the current iteration of society that you want to change it but you won't do it nihilistic and alone. You won't do it as individual. Men trying to make money and raise a family alone will get chewed up by other groups of men who have grouped up around particular identities within the society whether they be religious, or ethnic or political in nature.

[–]ThrowFader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truth is dualistic. There are two sides to every story.

I agree with you. I look out for myself primarily but enough is enough.

[–]KidWave192837465 3 points4 points  (1 child)

So in that sense, anyone who has contributed to this subreddit was acting in a blue pill fashion including your comment.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wrong.

We ECs contribute here because helping young men gives us satisfaction. We're here for our own pleasure, not for the salvation of civilization.

[–]6ixtyisdead 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You are right but the problem is that collectivist/leftist/feminist and SJW are very well organized to fuck us. What do we do? Where do we find knowledge if we don't care what is going on?

[–]johnpayne10[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you honestly think that if all men get red pilled, the left/feminism will stand a chance?

If the men leave, women will follow because 'female independence' is an illusion. If men become masculine, women are forced to become feminine to remain attractive and accepted by society. If men vote for right wing, we legally change the oppressive laws and make the world a better place. Nothing is stronger than a group of strong, intelligent men. Imagine a world where every man is red pilled, striving to be the top underdog.

Red pill would nuke left. And it is easy to convert men from blue to red because TRP is nothing but truth. Pretty lies fall apart when a man learns of the cold hard reality.

[–]gbdoragnic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> The Red Pill is not a crusade to save society.

TRP has saved many men from suicide, depression and violence, this is the anti violent, deal with your issues, don't kill yourself but love yourself group.

> The idea that you can and must become personally responsible for rescuing men from themselves is Blue Pill thinking.

Self sacrifice is needed, I mean nature has culled weak men at a high rate, but when the dice rolls on you don't be surprised there is no hope

[–]SpiritTunnel 27 points28 points  (1 child)

We don't live in a time of discourse anymore on the large scale, we are transferring into an age misinformation and censorship, a battle that most of the internet has been fighting since forever.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

we are watching history repeat itself

when people/corporations/government want to suppress the act of having discussions and sharing ideas, which for us is in the scope of sexual strategy in the name of patrolling thought for the peace of mind for advertisers and people with disagreeing opinions

it's the decline of western ideals of liberty and self-rule.

what is championed in the west that "all men are created equal" with the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."[

whats left of it

[–]poohead3 12 points13 points  (0 children)

First they came for the Daily Stormer, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Nazi.

Then they came for the conspiracy theorists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a conspiracy theorist.

Then they came for the conservatives, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a conservative.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[–]pnwhomebrewer 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Western Civilization is heading toward major trial. The signs are everywhere and we all must prepare. We cannot enjoy the decline as the “decline” involves stripping away freedom a little at a time.

[–]ultrasuperthrowaway 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I created this account 6 years ago to post here

It's been a great ride my brothers!!!!

[–]actuallybrazilian 16 points17 points  (2 children)

i think what happened to the internet already happened in reality.

first it was the centralization ( social media ) then when people dependance on the medium reached a certain level came the thought police, the ever-increasing control.

you can t redpill all men friend. there are many that like convenient delusions instead of truths. truth is and always was unpopular. reason is unpopular too if you compare it to feelings or beliefs.

i agree with trp that society is lost and the decline is set. either you enjoy the decline, suffer, ignore it s existence or leave the game. i've seen way too many good people get burned by the people they tried to help to go to the '' help the world route ''.

what i seek is power enough to protect myself, those near me and keep the toxic elements of the society as far as possible. that s what makes me trade the precious time of my life for money.

[–]GirEternal 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Use all of these signals to work harder than ever guys. Harden up, lift hard, live right and prepare. We will undoubtedly face big challenges ahead and we must be ready to fight for what we know is right. Don't succumb to the soymbie hordes. Stay pure you beautiful bastards.

[–]SKRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And while you're at it, save the best posts in the last (how many) years since this came up.

[–]TrexsyLexson108 15 points16 points  (40 children)

Yes, hard to believe. The real societal transformation will come when a liberal Democratic (probably female) president is elected, either in 2020 or 2024. We're actually lucky right now.

[–]pnwhomebrewer 8 points9 points  (38 children)

The Democrats aren’t winning 2020 unless they can successfully get Trump impeached.

[–]sparkyyy1337 10 points11 points  (37 children)

This is how I predict the future:

March 2020 - Massive recession

Late 2020 - Democrat elected

Early 2021 - Civil war starts

Mid 2021 - Eastern Europe starts (civil)warring

Early 2022 - The EU ends

By early 2023 - Western Europe turns nationalistic to save itself from self destruction & massively restricts migration from Eastern Europe, Africa and the Middle East, illegals get forced out

2024 - Western imperialism ends as Europe/USA is unable to out compete Asia

2025 - CHINESE WORLD DOMINATION

[–]johnpayne10[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is harsh, but yup. I am able to see this happening. Although, it won't probably won't happen so rapidly. Maybe over a decade or two.

[–]womans_algorithm 9 points10 points  (19 children)

By early 2023 - Western Europe turns nationalistic to save itself from self destruction & massively restricts migration from Eastern Europe, Africa and the Middle East, illegals get forced out

Statistically, majority of people in England will be muslim in a generation or two. Don't think they are going to be the one forced out.

[–]sparkyyy1337 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I meant illegals, not minorities. I do think the nationalistic parties are going to keep growing and this will be the result.

[–]Talska -1 points0 points  (17 children)

Uhhh as an English person, this seems pretty bullshit to me fam. Maybe it will be the Majority religion, but thats because Atheism is just replacing what used to be Christian towns and cities.

[–]teeekuuu 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Wake up mate, your country is being taken over.

[–]Talska -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Says the person who has probably never been to my country before

[–]womans_algorithm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even if it will be the strongest religion, think what they will do with that power.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 5 points6 points  (12 children)

Not the brightest bulb around, are you?

[–]Talska -1 points0 points  (11 children)

What a brilliant example of an ad hominem response, if you could actually argue your point instead of just insulting me like a retard that'd be great.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 9 points10 points  (10 children)

You don't consider Muslims as a problem? Honestly, I don't know how what to say to a guy who is so naive/dumb/idk what to say. Tell you what, go read their holy books. That should be sufficient to prove my point. You obviously don't know jack shit about their religion.

[–]Talska 0 points1 point  (9 children)

You don't consider muslims as a problem?

Don't put words in my mouth, I never said that. All I said is that they can not take over the UK.

I don't know how what to say to a guy who is so naive/dumb/idk what to say.

Again, another ad hominem. Learn to debate please.

Tell you what, go read their holy books. That should be sufficient to prove my point. You obviously don't know jack shit about their religion.

Like I said before, I never said that radical islam wasn't a problem.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 11 points12 points  (8 children)

Dude the mayor of london is a muslim. Even a child can tell where your country is headed. I am not putting words in your mouth. You are implying stupid shit.

[–]destraht 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Meh, I lived in Ukraine during the war and it was all basically a no show for the amount of outside energy and money that was put into it. In particular I feel that the ex-Soviet countries have had enough bullshit in the last generations and they won't do more than what is absolutely necessary to control a situation. I'd much prefer to be in Central or Eastern Europe than the US if shit went down. The people in EE are absolutely petrified of the horrors of war (in the good sane kind of way). They'll replay past traumas and past specific events as if they could happen again in the same exact way and this creates a dampening effect on outside forces trying to get everyone to kill each other. Americans though, Black Friday, ... thats all I'm gonna say.

[–]sparkyyy1337 0 points1 point  (7 children)

The war in Ukraine hasn't ended, in fact it's only gonna get worse as people get more desperate. Just yesterday the IMF ordered Ukraine to raise the price of gas by another 23%, it's now like triple of what it was back in 2014. Also I hope you realize there was a massive media blackout during those few months of war. Ukraine in Late June - Early September 2014 was more brutal than Syria during those very same months. The total amount of victims has been completely censored. The Ukrainian conflict will trigger the next massive wave of refugees.

I don't know what is gonna happen in America but I don't think most people are willing to kill other Americans whereas Ukrainians have gone completely mad. Now they are even beefing with Poland and Hungary. Then there are other 'hot' regions like the Baltic states (against the Russian minority) or the Balkans (Serbian are still beefing with Albanians, Croatians and Bosnians) or even the Turkish beef with Bulgaria and Greece or the Greek one with Macedonia and Turkey. Central European places like Slovenia, Czech Republic or Poland are very safe at this moment but they might be the countries that will be conflicted with the largest amount of refugees. Then there is also the question of Russia, Putin is still holding it together but once he is out it might again devolve to a situation similar to what there was in the 90s.

I certainly don't see the Eastern European region as a region with a good future imo.

[–]destraht 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I don't know what is gonna happen in America but I don't think most people are willing to kill other Americans whereas Ukrainians have gone completely mad.

I met a young guy there who told me of the Winter when he had nothing and nowhere to live and had to keep moving for two days without sleep so that he wouldn't freeze to death. He would make his rounds at the aptekas to warm up for a few minutes before heading out. Then he finally got the CAD job and had to work barely for a few more days without having eaten and then was able to get a pay advance to munch down.

THAT is precisely why I don't think that the country will ever become totally whack. Oppositely, Americans are extremely far from that and the very obese people here will become incredibly ill after missing four meals because the toxic waste stored in their fat will poison them. Americans could not withstand disruptions and real hardship without going truly apeshit. They have no reference points for true hardship.

[–]AGallopingMonkey 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You do realize the point of having fat is to outlive a starvation period right? And as to your point about the cold homeless man, we’ve got those in America as well.

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Fat is a liability when its packed full of toxic waste. If you eat terrible chemicals then your body will do the lazy thing and shove it into the fat rather than further overload an already overloaded kidney and liver. The high acidity of their blood and cells encourages deferment. There is a very obvious difference in the quality of fat on a thicker Ukrainian woman and an American woman. It looks better and it feels better. Toxic waste laden cellulite is just a foul thing. The body really doesn't want to deal with it but if it needs to then it will but then it all suddenly those toxic molecules hits the blood stream. Its extremely unideal to be dealing with toxic molocules, metals, etc while trying to survive a food crunch. Toxic laden fat is as bad as it looks and feels.

[–]AGallopingMonkey 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Damn you’re uninformed about how the body works. Impressive bro science.

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A fun read through your history shows that you just say one and two liners without offering any enlightenment. You have an incredibly weak and dickish comment history. You are a low effort troll.

[–]destraht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree that people were killed and the government game is always "deaths small", "jobs high" but my argument is that for the amount of energy put into it that it was a pretty minor conflict. For example, I was just down in Colombia and I'm adamant that there would be dangling heads on every street corner if the amount of money and effort was put into tearing that country apart as in Ukraine.

They are famously grumpy and with poor ethics around certain short sighted business moves, etc but are dramatically higher quality people than many others. There are a lot of cooling effects there for all of the Soros Nazism stuff. For example, a troop of L'viv grandmas went to a military base and would not let the young men leave. The military said "gee these grandmas are really tough, we better just stay here and play it safe". Additionally many people just outright own their little concrete apartments and so don't need a terrible lot to survive. Plus, the farmland is absolutely top notch so basic staples are as easy to come by as could ever be hoped for in a similar situation.

Plus you have a mostly homogeneous population and for example Donestk people are welcome and can integrate anywhere easy peasy. Its not exactly a pretty situation but there are so many things preventing it from becoming a mad house. Additionally the Jews really like to camp out in the middle of the country and in Odessa so they are extremely unlikely to want to have a Syrian or Serbian level conflict break out. It is after all the Kazarian mafias backup Holyland.

I certainly don't see the Eastern European region as a region with a good future imo.

It depends on what you mean. I know smart locals there who do really well for themselves because they have overcome the deficiencies of Soviet thinking and so they are Soviet +1. There are tons of pretty girls, easy access to intellectual people, easy access to cheap housing, cheap nutritious food. If you are talking GDP then Ukraine will never be good. Ukraine is funny though, you just have to throw the economy right out of the window. Its far from a winning country but there are far too many easy paths to carve out there. I could easily see them having a 50 person brawl with weapons right outside of my window but it wouldn't even interrupt my game other than maybe having to type "brb".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Sorry but what will the civil war be in Eastern Europe?

Western Europe is destroying itself but the East is still homogenous.

[–]sparkyyy1337 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Eastern Europe is more unstable and there already is one civil war to begin with. The next most unstable region is in the Balkans, which is Eastern Europe again. The poorer the people are, the more prone to violence they are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Eastern Europe is more unstable and there already is one civil war to begin with. The next most unstable region is in the Balkans, which is Eastern Europe again.

Got it. Though the states such as Poland, Hungary, Baltics & Czech/Slovok, Slovenia seem to be in good shape.

[–]sparkyyy1337 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes they are, that is correct. They might get somewhat destabilized in the upcoming refugee crisis though. The Ukrainians are going to go to Poland and the Czech Republic / Slovakia en mass.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Ukrainians are going to go to Poland and the Czech Republic / Slovakia en mass.

I lived in Poland and will be back there living again soon. I can say they probably won't be any issues with the Ukranians because they assimilate incredibly quick because the cultures are so close.

A Ukranian can pick up the Polish language in months if not weeks. The big difference is the Poles are Catholic and the Ukrainians are Orthodox.

All the Ukrainians in Poland are there for work mainly. I doubt very few, if any, are there for war. I doubt they'll be much of an expansion of any conflict in Ukraine unless the USA provokes Russia again by throwing missiles or something in Ukraine.

[–]womans_algorithm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I live in one of those countries. Situation here is similar as in western europe - hello migrants, others are racists. Besides,small countries like those are not important in grand scheme of things.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I live in one of those countries. Situation here is similar as in western europe - hello migrants, others are racists. Besides,small countries like those are not important in grand scheme of things.

I lived in poland for a bit and plan to move back. I hope more white people take off the shackles of brainwashing and become 'racist.'

White people need to find their way again.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To think it almost happened right now. Look at Germany. Angela Merkel single-handedly ruining things.

[–]1cappadocianhawk 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This is only the beginning. Only the strongest of us will survive the trials and tribulations ahead. I'm looking forward to it.

[–]swampbastard69 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Capitalism and feminism go hand in hand.

'Consumerism' and feminism go hand in hand. We make the choice to be consumers, and in some ways it is not a choice.

In the constant competitive effort to turn us into better consumers - corporations and the government (there is no difference) will push to feminize everyone more. Its just he way it is - its not some evil 'Lefty' pulling the strings.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Left is not exactly on over side.

[–]swampbastard69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, what I mean is that this is how it was always going to go, and there isnt some person or sub-group that is the enemy, I have no answers and this is not a very optimistic viewpoint I know.

[–]riot2100 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'm not giving up on my voice. Ever. Neither should any of you. Someone who wants to take it away will have to kill me. I was originally planning on enjoying the decline but the rate of descent just increased exponentially. We must defend what we still have left, to the tooth and nail. We must somehow get this knowledge spread around, it's vital at this point.

[–]ThrowFader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We needed a new brand so bad. One that incorporates TRP but takes the next step. We need to evolve as a community, and become a place where truth is not just disseminated, but actually has an impact. That requires not just repackaging, but synthesis.

We live in a Matrix not just in regards to sexual strategy, and this ban (make no mistake, it is a functional ban) is showing us that we are fighting a very real war. Its very easy to label TRP as misogynist and silence us. Even though we are like the last refuge for many men on the internet. TRP has literally saved lives.

We need to be Machiavellian I think, in this time. IF we concede this victory to the BP agenda, they will come after more.

Exactly my sentiments.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The amusing thing is, they think they’ve won.

Buck up gentlemen, and soldier on.

[–]ThePlague 5 points6 points  (7 children)

The unholy alliance of capitalism and feminism destroying masculinity, shaming our glorious past, and actually twisting and changing our outlook on everything. (Just check out google doodles if you doubt this. Capitalism and feminism go hand in hand. The primary reason for behind this being, women spend far, far more than men. When was the last time you purchased a shirt? Take a look at your female colleagues and see how much money they spend on shopping, every month. It will be more than your yearly spending.)**

You are confusing capitalism with consumerism. Capitalism is saving, and then investing/building. Consumerism is just buying more shit. Feminism and consumerism go hand in glove, but the only form of "capitalism" they like is crony capitalism: special carve-outs based on the demographics of the capitalist (sex, race, etc) as well as imposing non-business related constraints on their behavior.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Actually, no. I meant capitalism. Capitalism is a system where businesses are owned by private sector. Private sector aims at maximizing its profits. Given that women spend far more than men, specially in certain niche products, the less constraints they have, the more they will spend. Female independence, their ability to earn money, their insecurities, it makes them cash cow for capitalism. Beauty products, divorce industry, healthcare, marriage market, it all depends on women. Also, there are tons of other factors. Like the amount of money a man spends on a woman. The expected price of engagement ring. Reduced time in kitchen directly results in increased spending on food products. The restaurant/food joint industry depends on it. Typically, men earn, women spend. Pre-feminism, women were not as bitchy and entitled as they are today. They were conservative, more focused on their household and kids than shopping unnecessary shit. Just imagine a typical beta husband and a bitchy wife. The husband earns money (which is always more than the wife, hypergamy). At times, he is the sole breadwinner in the family. The wife shops to her heart's content. Beta bucks. These bucks get deposited as profit in the vaults of capitalist companies. That is why capitalism encourages feminism. Also, as men become emasculated and beta, they match female spending patterns. All the more power to capitalist companies. Why do you think capitalist companies support leftist ideology and not right wing ideology? Capitalism, left, feminism is a trio designed to destroy our family structure.

[–]ThePlague 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's more to capitalism than businesses being owned by the private sector. At its core, capitalism is about economic freedom, to be able to do what you want with your money. Some people start businesses, some invest, and some just piss it away on consumerism. As long as there is a demand for anything, there will always be a capitalist free market even if it has to go underground. The ones usually referred to as capitalists provide these goods, while the consumers make the demand. Everything you describe is aspects of consumerism gone wild, as opposed to the exchange of money for goods and services that bring long-lasting value to the purchasers' life.

[–]TheBasedLibertarian 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Really? What is 'beta bucks' all about? A manipulative woman spending some simp's hard earned money on stupid shit. It is related to capitalism as well.

[–]TheBasedLibertarian 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Capitalism is merely private ownership of property. Sure people can spend their resources on dumb shit, that’s hardly a refutation of the institution of private property.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Capitalism is also a economic and political ideology.

[–]TheBasedLibertarian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it isn’t. You are referring to something else.

[–]derpderp5000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is unbelievably absurd. I cannot fucking believe reddit is doing this shit. I mean I can, but wow. FUck you reddit

[–]Herdsengineers 4 points5 points  (4 children)

The current crop of radical liberals and feminists say words that gaslight the masses into thinking they want equality, to right wrongs of the past, and justice for the oppressed. The reality is the policies they pursue and the actions they take indicate what they really want is power and control over the rest of us in order to enforce uniformity and conformity to their model of what society should be like. They don't want true freedom and justice. They want everyone to conform to their beliefs and there is no low to which they won't stoop in pursuit of their agenda.

Right now, they have the upper hand because they control the mainstream media. It's that simple. However, the only way you defeat an idea is with a better idea. The principles men learn from TRP result in waking up to a lot more than just sexual strategy. Once you start developing yourself, you experience more attention and success with women, but you also realize that the development of yourself has so many other benefits that go beyond success with women. Living life TRP way eventually transcends past just sex and women.

If we ever want to roll back this tide of hate (that's what it really is), we honestly need a repackaging of TRP ideas and philosophies, let it become about anti-conformity to the liberal/feminist agenda and about more than just sexual strategy. We need leadership and support from TRP friendly people who are willing to go through what Kavanaugh is going through right now. In other words, be willing to stand up against it and take the hits that will be thrown at us. Then endure those hits with grace and frame and composure. Let our opposition's anger and hate shine through, and let them expose themselves for who they really are, just like they have recently done in Kavanaugh's hearing.

On another note - and I say this as a married man - I'm coming to the opinion that maybe for younger men especially that refusing to marry or cohabitate with a woman is the way to go. I think I'm going to encourage my own son in this regard. That way, even if you knock up a chick, you simply pay the child support, be a disney dad, and live your life. Just set yourself up to afford it - your home, car, etc. - be smart with your expenses so you can afford the child support without it being overly burdensome. That way, you spend the same as you would if you were married and living together, like needing bigger house, car for a family, etc. - kid's are expensive. I know, I have one. However, the only thing the mother ever gets legal access to is child support. There's no chance of her getting awarded the family home, alimony, etc. because you never married or cohabitated. You can limit your risk, basically.

If men en masse refuse to enter into relationships more fully, men can limit the money that flows. Eventually the establishment will have to do something to address it and make it more attractive and less risky for men to engage more deeply again.

Just my humble thoughts.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I agree with you. We need to take a stand and stop this current situation from becoming worse. Otherwise, future looks pretty bleak for all of us.

[–]Herdsengineers 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The key is the stand has to be taken without frame breaking. We have to maintain composure, not go along with their agenda, but do so peaceably. Let them show their asses.

Think of it like this Gandhi quote: "First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win." He never confronted with any kind of escalation or anger. He used peaceful resistance. Non-violent civil disobediance. He just didn't go along with the program of British rule. He simply spoke truth and wouldn't deviate from it. He let those that opposed him beat themselves. He was imprisoned for a time, he faced all kinds of adversity, but in the end, he won.

We need to be willing to do the same thing and sacrifice to change things. It's come to that.

[–]ThrowFader 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is precisely what I was talking about when I made my TRP 2.0 post but everyone wanted to ridicule me and I might have even got my post deleted. We needed a new brand so bad. One that incorporates TRP but takes the next step. We need to evolve as a community, and become a place where truth is not just disseminated, but actually has an impact. That requires not just repackaging, but synthesis.

We live in a Matrix not just in regards to sexual strategy, and this ban (make no mistake, it is a functional ban) is showing us that we are fighting a very real war. Its very easy to label TRP as misogynist and silence us. Even though we are like the last refuge for many men on the internet. TRP has literally saved lives.

We need to be Machiavellian I think, in this time. IF we concede this victory to the BP agenda, they will come after more.

[–]Herdsengineers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TRP message needs to be put out there with an articulation that doesn't come by a bunch of online weenies and angry young males. It needs to cleansed of the "locker room" talk for mass media consumption. The offensive and crude language so many use is precisely what alienates the wider audience.

And while I do believe there is something to hypergamy, AWALT, female solipsism, etc. - for God's sake those things need to be left out of the "mass market" message. Those things plus the language that the wider audience would find crude or offensive are what ensure people reject the message before they even hear it.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

All I have to say to the reddit founders is SEIG HEIL! You think you're doing the right thing but you and all your marxist globalist ilk are just the new Hitler in disguise... censor anything that doesn't agree with your flower child philosophy. This sort of lack of tolerance while claiming to be tolerant will be the downfall of all society.. you're basically biting the hands of everyone who built civilization and made it what it is today.. you think you're going to make people think like you by forcing them through censorship and laws?

The reddit founders are literally biting the hand of the userbase that made them what they are today.. a big middle finger to the people who decide not to flow with the herd just to appease the herd. I fear for the future of this country/planet with what I am seeing from these lefties.. they are truly dangerous people. Study your history with the rise and fall of other empires throughout history. We may be on our last legs...

[–]johnpayne10[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Moderate leftists are okay, in a sense that they help counter extreme right and maintain balance. But when things start taking a sharp left turn, it is an indication of shit about to hit the fan. Extreme left is just as bad as extreme right, or maybe even worse. Screw everyone in the name of equality.

[–]DocZTheRockstar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH

[–]thetotalpackage7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my opinion the number one thing that you can do to stop this is to curb the unfettered immigration from the third world. The more we have government dependent people causing chaos, soaking up resources and voting for lunatic lefties, the more this continues. The lefty nutbags KNOW they cannot win the battle of ideas with strong men, so theyre stacking the deck with low IQ, government tit voting drones who enrich the corporations and keep psychopaths in power.

[–]abudun79 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Home of the brave, land of the free. I'm pissing my pants.

[–]FloridaBass 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. Its a vicious cycle. we are at the end of the cycle. only a matter of time before the pendulum swings back.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The darkest hour is just before the dawn. But in our case, we have to actively take part to ensure that dawn arises. Otherwise, it is going to be eternal darkness. I hope that never happens.

[–]edargham 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Welcome to reality. It is 2018, and our world is more fucked up than ever. On paper, we have freedom, we can do and say whatever we want. But if you can open your eyes, everyone is fucking enslaved, reduced to a cog into the corporate machine.

I'm stealing your line. Thanks.

Anyways, I did dream back in 2015 about living in a feminized dystopia... Now I'm seeing this with my own true eyes.

[–]WoodleyWarrior85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just imagine a world where all men are unplugged...All the problems that men and women suffer from will disappear and the world would become a better, happier place for all of us and our future generations.

It's this type of utopianism and herd morality that created the West's problems in the first place.

We don't have to solve the world's problems or wake up the masses. What we need is for individual guys to just stop playing the game.

  • Stop consuming TV shows, movies, news, and other media with blue pill or anti-male themes
  • Stop attending schools or universities with heavy SJW curriculums.
  • Stop agreeing to relationships in which you get the short end of the stick. Don't agree to be a "provider" or emotional tampon or any other arrangement that sucks the life out of you.
  • Stop being dependent on groups of other people. Women, parents, government, etc. We need free individual men.

We need guys who work during the day to financially support themselves and then in their free time just enjoy life. Guys who put their personal missions and goals first. These are the types of dudes who lead and (re)build countries.

Good post, though.

[–]killer15356 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The red pill has influenced so many young men. Its given young men such as myself a purpose and meaning in life. No matter what we do or say, these people will never open their ears and understand that men are in danger and need a path filled will guidance and understanding from other men. The only place i've ever felt that was at theredpill. But there is some hope, as I see some people able to get the message across such as Jordan B. Peterson.

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[–]johnpayne10[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The government can introduce forced marriages if the situation goes out of hand. Don't underestimate the tyranny of the left.

[–]PS2Errol 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Men could then marry each other in pretend marriages (impossible to prove if they are pretend or not). Since the left won't ban that.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Haha...that's an innovative idea.

[–]destraht 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably best to keep it from the Ukrainian women my homosexual marriage that was consummated out of desperation with an intense passion for liberty. They would just be confused.

[–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Save every good post in your drives before sharing on the net. You might need to recreate them one day.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have already saved my favorite ones.

[–]tempolaca 1 point2 points  (9 children)

I am not even going to talk about how feminism and Islam go hand-in-hand.

I noted it too. Why? where this most-unlikely unholy-alliance began?

[–]johnpayne10[S] 16 points17 points  (8 children)

Women lack the sense of honor, patriotism. It has always been a man's job to protect the territory of his tribe. We have a strong sense of nationalism/groupism, pronounced distrust towards other groups, pride in our culture and history. Women lack these values, or have it in a far less proportion compared to men. Throughout history, women have been spared after a war while men and boys have been killed. They have evolved to assimilate into the invading enemy culture, unlike we men. Even today, girls/women get over break-ups relatively easier than men. They grieve initially and before you know it, they are sucking the dick of a stranger, calling him their true love.

So basically, women lack the sense of unity, groupism. That is why they are more open to diversity, inclusion of others. They are the ones voting for opening borders to immigrants. They are the ones accepting other religions, cultures with an open mind. In this desperate attempt to gain social validation and acceptance (even from foreigners and unknown cultures), they lack the pragmatism to realize that these cultures are actually detrimental to their own. That is why you will see feminists supporting Muslims and happily wearing burqas to appease them. Their hamsters cannot process how dumb and dangerous their actions really are.

[–]Monsteroid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I couldn't catch the link between Feminism and Islam. If you mean non Arabic countries, yes there is feminism too, but in Arabic world it seems logically impossible to me.

[–]Eslapole 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I am looking forward to being took over by the muslims. They are the only ones who can stop this bullshit.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It is sad that we can even entertain that sort of a thought. But nah...We cannot let that happen to our genes. I mean our future generations.

[–]Eslapole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, my country ( Spain) was invaded by the muslims and they got as much as the 94% of the iberian peninsula and we could get back our country..

I think that the best option for a man who is concerned about his genes is: move to a rural area without immigration or any kind of postmodernist influence, marry a religious european women, have a lot of children, homeschool them and just wait till the muslims invade us, instaure a patriarchal system and get rid of all the bluepillers, swj's and crazy feminists. Once this happen, we can expel them and build up back our society.

I think that our society is already dead. As I see it, It's not something bad; all sick societies have died throughout our history and ours won't be different. Tough times create great people, these people create a healthy society, this comfort turns people into lazy and stupid zoo animals who destroy their society. We can't help it. Just try to live a fullfilling life and don't worry about it.

[–]the_deliberators 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You say every Muslim is radical based on our history and books yet the TRP can be said the same with it's ideology as it seems foreign to those who have no clue.

Islam permits equality based on certain conditions for both genders (includes a hierarchy), you're basing a naive view on the religion through the lens of ignorance. Stoic and the iron hand are taught together by the correct teachers and through historical references on the view of what a MAN should be. TRP has hit the nail the same as what has been taught before. Females who are endowed with islamic principle are well aware of their roles and they will be submissive towards their husband (call it TRP instilled since birth).

Muslims do not refer to non muslims as enemies by far. You're referred to a non-believer because thats what you are, this doesn't exclude the fact that we have hatred. No muslim should fear exercising their right to practice, the faith is heavily attacked in today's society wherever you go and the population is still strong enough to deflect all the pussy bashing and orchestrated radical attacks by the media and western powers.

[–]apost54 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The unholy alliance of capitalism and feminism destroying masculinity

Glad you said this. I'm pretty god-damn anticapitalist, but I still yearn for a return to more wholesome values that our present dystopia currently lacks. I'm not even sure if capitalism and socialism correlate to much to the left-right political spectrum anymore.

[–]1Ill_Will7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All in all, your just a..... nother brick in the wall

[–]Fulltilt_Ronny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i dont see the present the the future as dark as you do. maybe things are different in our countries tho (you from the US?).

[–]dkostadinov01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we world is headed to change so be it mates. We are nothing but an old civilization anyways

[–]Ananonguy88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We cannot go back to the "good old times" there were no good old times. We can improve the present though, the way out is forward not backward. Women will naver go back to the previous state, but men can adapt to the new SMP conditions and bluepill sociopolitics. This will create something new though, not something we have seen.

[–]Grimsterr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The big yellow "Quarantined" besides all of the TRP posts in my feed makes it easy to not miss any as I scroll.

[–]Watchingcluturefade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit absolutely disgusts me

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Does anyone know specifically why TRP got quarentined if it was because of any kind of unpleasant behavior? I'm MGTOW and I addmit that sub is way more agressive if you consider feminists shitty point of view. I usually check this sub and I never saw offensive stuff here...

I came in peace, just want understand what happened since we're probably going to be the next quarentined.

[–]scumboi 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Actually this thread is the only one that I've read on here that is offensive -- because it's so political and judgemental. I'm one of the gay fans of this sub, and I've never felt unwelcomed until reading this particular thread. For now, I will assume that the quarantine has just got everyone on edge, but if in the end I don't feel welcome here, I'll just move on.

[–]ThrowFader 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Nah TRP has nothing against gays its just some dudes on here man

[–]scumboi 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's certainly been my understanding in the past, but this post led me to question that. I appreciate your reply.

[–]AltBuzzer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We know the truth. This may be a loss for free speech, but we have the tools to better ourselves and now they will not be tainted by the mainstream.

[–]nickbrody219 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This frightens me that if the same is allowed to continue for few decades, society will break and civil war will erupt

[–]darksoldierk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait,why was this sub quarantined? In the last few years, the content in this sub has been watered down so much. It isn't even offensive anymore. I know women who browse this sub and say that most of the stuff here is pretty much true and that they are surprised that men didn't know this before. 8 years ago, this sub was very different, so why now?

[–]Quo210 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's fine. Feminism will self destruct and take along it all western society. It's not the end of the world as we know it, we aren't descending into a permanent 1984.

Do you think Islam is going to stand for it? Do you think Russia and China is just going to let it all rot and decay? Feminism is a tool, once it has filled it's purpose, it will be disposed of.

If whole western society is betaificated and as a result, becomes weak and destroyed by other societies, so be it. Life's number 1 rule is the strong dominate the weak. We allowed the weak, the minorities, the twisted and the broken to dictate rules, then we are due for being removed.

Save yourself for now and enjoy life, everybody else can sink into oblivion. We all will eventually. There's no "duty" on saving anyone else.

I saved this piece of insight from a month ago. I found it truly eye-opening. We aren't stopping feminism from overtaking a society of weak men.

I would link some TRP theory on how feminism will self destruct but the site is automatically removing any comment with a link to Quarantined sites. So much for freedom of speech

[–]qserieskiller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are confusing capitalism with consumerism.

[–]gbdoragnic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Capitalism and feminism go hand in hand.

Feminism is a Marxist philosophy and they even state this publicly, in fact they consider Capitalism Men made and hateful , this and every major author.

Free speech and free trade are capitalism, which is why every university slams it ,

[–]StrongAttitude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red pilling all men in the world would mean end of all wars too. No man wants to die fighting other men, especially when death in battlefield is the most terrible one.

[–]sparkyyy1337 0 points1 point  (11 children)

The only way to salvage this situation is to go full leftard. I am not talking Bernie, I am talking STALIN level leftism.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Even if you go full leftard, you cannot escape the horrible fate awaiting others. The left always looks for straw men. Right now, it is right leaning, cis-white men. Tomorrow, it will be men. Day after tomorrow, it will be white women. The day after it, it will be heterosexuals. It just does not end. You destroy individuality, the very essence of mankind in order to achieve equality. You obviously don't achieve equality because someone will be better at something than others, but you destroy millions of lives in the process.

[–]sparkyyy1337 0 points1 point  (4 children)

The democrats aren't trying to achieve equality, they are just appeasing to certain groups in order to get votes just like Trump and his crew is doing that to whites. If they did care about equality they would give people decent paid jobs, they would take over the banking industry and nationalize it and not allow these giant speculators run wild just like they would take over all of the natural resources and end the prison-industrial complex. Also how is our feminazi society equal? Living as a male in 2018 is probably worse than ever while women are treated like gods.

[–]destraht 1 point2 points  (1 child)

At this rate they need another ten years of growing up more indoctrinatees before they can really make a play at taking things over. Now they are just flexing their muscles and playing pysop games to see where we are all at.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You hit the nail on head, my friend. Look at this Kavanaugh nonsense. Someone cries rape 30 years later and boom. A lifetime of achievements and hard earned success ruined. Your reputation becomes a joke. Perfect example of left, feminism playing their games. Assessing how far they can take it.

[–]poohead3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"African-American and Hispanic unemployment are at an all time low!" -Donald Trump 2018

Where's the white appeasement? He does dogwhistle with his "forgotten American" and "middle class" nonsense, but it's a ruse. The GOP is controlled opposition used as a pressure release valve whose job it is to slowly lose everything they pretend to care about.

[–]sparkyyy1337 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That was just virtue signaling since he gets accused of being racist all the time. But yeah I agree he, just like all the others doesn't really care about the white working class.

[–]Omnidempotent 3 points4 points  (4 children)

The cure for extreme leftism is extreme rightism. That is, to combat internationalism (which is the extreme leftism you describe), you need strong nationalism.

[–]johnpayne10[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes...and we need strong men to have strong nationalism. So it all boils down to the quality of men. Survival of the fittest.

[–]sparkyyy1337 1 point2 points  (1 child)

having no borders is more of a libertardian way of thinking

[–]poohead3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, you're just as bad as them if you're forced to extreme measures to prevent the total annihilation of your people!!!!

[–]PheromoneVoid -1 points0 points  (0 children)

While ironically Islam is anti-feminism, it is also anti-all of us. Everyone who is not a Muslim.

Good thing for me that I'm a Muslim. :)