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Building PowerShift your focus from yourself to the brotherhood (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 3CainPrice

Summary: Remain focused, in all of your interactions with other men, on how you can help and bring them up. This may literally be the path to ruling the world.


I remember reading a story about an aboriginal tribe’s sexual practices, though I can’t for the life of me remember the source. It was some manosphere author.

The story went that a long time ago among this tribe of savages, sex was very literally a transaction. Men actually exchanged resources – meat – for sex. When the hunting season came, all of the tribe’s warriors would go off into the woods and hunt, then come back with their kills. And as each man laid a kill in front of the communal fire, a woman would come forward and take the man back to her hut for sex. In this way, the men who produced for the community were rewarded with sex.

However, every hunting season, before returning to the village, the men would meet about a mile outside of town, and they would divide their kills, out of sight of the women. Hunting was an unpredictable task, and after this hunt, you might have multiple kills, while some men wouldn’t have any. But the next hunt, it might be you who didn’t have any kills. By dividing up the kills, the men ensured that every man would come back with meat, and every man would get laid. This was a very early brotherhood.

It’s not so hard to imagine that in putting one over on the tribe’s women like this, the men might have had a good time. Maybe they gave skinny-Bill, the nerdiest of the hunters, the best kills to bring back, so that hot-Stacy, the bitchiest and most stuck up of the tribe’s women, would have sex with skinny-Bill. Maybe they got a kick out of tricking the hottest bitch in town into fucking Bill. And maybe they felt a sense of pride in helping Bill out and raising him up.

Back in the “good old days” when men were men, our fathers were married to our mothers, lived at home with us, taught us how to change a tire, and demonstrated to us, through example, how men lived and acted and how normal relationships were supposed to go. Many of our dads served in the army, where it was just them and their brothers, training together, enduring abuse and hazing by their officers together, and if deployed, enduring terrible conditions together. Not just the elements, but sometimes getting shot at and getting blown up, coming home with pieces missing, or in a bag. They were a brotherhood, and they’d take bullets for each other. Spending your weekend with your friend who got his legs blown off was far more honorable than spending it chasing skirt.

Back in the “good old days” when men were men, boys would join sports teams. Even skinny-Bill. And they’d try their hardest for each other and for the team. And sure, the guys would give skinny-Bill a hard time, but at the end of the day, he was one of them, and if he endured their abuse, he’d be at the party getting introduced to slutty girls along with the rest of the team. Because even though he was a little slower and weaker than the rest of them, the team meant the same thing to Bill that it meant to all of them, and he’d take a helmet in the ribs for them just to help move that ball another inch. They were a team. A brotherhood.

Women are a sisterhood. Even among women they’ve never met. If your girlfriend cheats on you while out at girls’ night, her friends will fight like hell to hide it from you. If a random woman comes out of the woodwork to accuse a rich celebrity of rape, every woman immediately declares that if you don’t believe her, you’re a sexist rape-apologist. Any time a woman, anywhere, feels hurt or slighted, all women commiserate with her. They aren’t necessarily our enemies. It’s not an us versus them mentality. However, they are definitely a team. A sisterhood. Women side with women, back women up, and raise up other women when possible.

They’re not very good at it, though. Women are catty and easily distracted. Women are easy to offend, and if they find another woman offensive, they are quick to cut her out and crush her social existence. Behind the scenes of the sisterhood, they’re all competing with each other. Even so, however, they are running laps around us.

Men have lost their sense of brotherhood. Men being men, helping other men, raising other men up – essentially, the “patriarchy” – that’s gone. In fact, men organizing and being any kind of brotherhood is often seen as dangerous – a threat.

Today, most men are wankers. The second your friend gets a girlfriend, he disappears from the map for six months and forgets all about his bros. If you, his best friend of 15 years, tells him that his girlfriend of 3 months is a serious bitch, he punches you and refuses to speak to you ever again. If his girlfriend cheats on him, he blames the man she fucked. And when skinny-Bill walks by, he points and laughs and attempts to demonstrate to everybody around him how superior he is to Bill. And when somebody does the same to him, he becomes catty and vengeful. Like a woman.

Men, as a whole, have lost our sense of brotherhood. We have transformed from a group that would take helmets and bullets for each other, share the fruits of our labors, help others get laid, help raise others up – into a group of catty women. Meanwhile, the women, who have remained a sisterhood (albeit a very badly run one), have walked all over us.

Before I make my concluding point, I would like to apologize to anybody I have slighted here, or any of the times I have come across as catty. Our focus should be on bringing each other up – yes, through tough love if necessary – but not on being unnecessarily bitchy to each other. Some of the men here are very, very lost boys, but if they are here, they are trying to find their way. They are here for help.

Each of your focuses should be the same. Before submitting a post, before submitting a comment, and even in your real-world interactions with other men, think first. Think about how you can really and truly help raise up another man and further the brotherhood, rather than how your post or your interaction makes you look. The goal here is not to post cool shit and get lots of internet fame for being smart and Red Pill. The goal is to actually help our fellow men. To help those of us who are lost be a little less lost.


[–]DocZTheRockstar 8 points9 points  (1 child)

When shit hits the fan, many men need to stand. You don't just keep sitting like a beaten dog like many men.

When an enemy comes to burn your village, what are you going to do just sit in your hut? LOL HELL NO. You need to do SOMETHING. Grab your weapon, go on the offensive/defensive, have an exit strategy and regroup. SOMETHING.

We wouldn't have any knowledge if it weren't thanks to brother that gave it to us. That's brotherhood in itself. Could've been selfish and not said anything.

[–]MilkMoney111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the military, when you start making rank and leading people, you are taught that the wrong decision is better than no decision. If you freeze, you're almost guaranteed a tremendous loss. However if you make a choice, say it being the wrong one, you quickly realize an "Oh shit!" just happened, learn, and correct it quickly.

Don't just sit back and wait. Get off your ass and do. Seneca said it best: "While we wait for life, life passes."

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 14 points15 points  (27 children)

I disagree with your premise point, and the entirety of your post.

You say "focus on the brotherhood," -- Brotherhood only manifests against a common struggle/goal. There is no brotherhood, here in TRP, besides the average user's struggle against being a sexless, low-value male, and the elite user's struggle against mediocrity, and being "good enough to get it done."


We've all read the founding post, look at that conclusion:

Both subreddits appear to still be operating within the frame that feminism put forward. That the one for you is just around the corner, and that courting can work, just so long as you find her and know game. It's false, and disingenuous.

Let's open discussion here. Let's talk about exactly what it means to be a sexual man in the era of feminism. How do we fulfill our needs sexually? Emotionally? How do we do so without taking unnecessary risks?

In a culture where the only thing standing between you and prison is whether the last girl you fucked decides to lie about rape, these are REAL questions that I think are being ignored. Welcome.

To summarize in 1 word: Truth.

Trp is about truth.

Truth about sexual relationships, truth about social & societal relationships, the truth about yourself -- helping you discover your own truth, and making it your own meaning.

This place formed to swap notes, ask questions, test theories, and find answers.

What you're asking for, is a movement.

To be a movement, a brotherhood, that means we need a common mission. Go MGTOW or Mens rights or Peterson if you need a mission, brotherhood, or movement.

Or, shit, start your own red pill movement, dedicated to forcing other men to have this "help your fellow brother" mentality.

The Red Pill was always available to be taken by anyone, but only few have the chance to take it. Imagine the millions of eyes who glanced over our little forum. Out of those who had the chance, a measly 300,000 popped it and subscribed. How many are double subs? Spies of other forces?

What you're asking is to save those who don't to be saved.

Fuck that.

Save yourself, first. Then when someone asks you for your help, then yeah sure, go ahead.

When we help other people, we feel good. It releases feel good chemicals in our brain, so it's like, helping people helps us reach inner heaven.

It's out of selfish intent when we help others... and that's okay.

I'm in a deserted island, instead of killing the girl to have more food for myself, ill fuck her and have her help me out instead. I'm on an island with a guy now, so instead of killing him I get his help to build shelters and a boat.

you can see how that stems from selfishness, right?

I always promoted winning at all costs... never accepting a losing situation, being ruthless, doing whatever it takes to achieve and get a goal done, so long as I can. "All for the sake of victory."


I'm out here to make ME win. If I give you a little something and you give me a little something, great. Whether it's exchanging tips, or praise, because that's the reward of teaching and winning.

The goal was never to help each other, it was to help ourselves. Through helping ourselves we helped eachother.

People coming to the red pill to lift others up have bad intentions. This is a place where you find your own truth.


However, every hunting season, before returning to the village, the men would meet about a mile outside of town, and they would divide their kills, out of sight of the women. Hunting was an unpredictable task, and after this hunt, you might have multiple kills, while some men wouldn’t have any. But the next hunt, it might be you who didn’t have any kills. By dividing up the kills, the men ensured that every man would come back with meat, and every man would get laid. This was a very early brotherhood.

No, this sounds like hedonistic orgy planning, and rewarding being weak and unproductive.

It’s not so hard to imagine that in putting one over on the tribe’s women like this, the men might have had a good time. Maybe they gave skinny-Bill, the nerdiest of the hunters, the best kills to bring back, so that hot-Stacy, the bitchiest and most stuck up of the tribe’s women, would have sex with skinny-Bill. Maybe they got a kick out of tricking the hottest bitch in town into fucking Bill. And maybe they felt a sense of pride in helping Bill out and raising him up.

You're actually trying to promote cuckoldry! "Hahah, yeah, let me prank this super hot girl I could be fucking myself, by sending this scrawny nerd to fuck her instead! Haha!" High fives gay frat bro.

True brotherhood would have been helping bill get stronger so he could get meat on his own merit, like the rest of the tribe.


Soldiers in war have true struggle and brotherhood. So do co-workers... sports teams.

Notice though, once the struggle is gone, the goal completed, the brotherhood tends to fade as well.

The men may keep in touch, see eachother every once in a while, but the time of their bond has passed. The struggle is over, they win. We can go back to our individual things now.

Teams of men form when they all have one goal or dream in mind. They struggle to complete it, bond from doing so, then let it fade when it's over.

That's brotherhood in a red pill way.

[–]3CainPrice[S] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Let me respond with an allegory:

It's Stacey's senior year of high school. She finally made cheerleader captain this year. She's one of the prettiest and most popular girls in school. Most of the guys want to sleep with her. It's very validating.

She comes from a good family. Daddy bought her a new car to drive herself and her friends to school this year. She loves to show it off. She also got a boob job over the summer. She looks amazing.

But she's not just a pretty face. She's worked hard over the past three years and just received her early acceptance to a very good college. She talks about that every chance she gets.

Stacey has worked hard these past three years to ascend the social ladder, and to get into college, and frankly, she plans on enjoying her senior year. She's going to make sure she attends all the best parties, hangs out with the coolest people, has fun with some guys, all while maintaining her social standing and grades to keep her college admission. She's going to get hers, and if you suggested that Stacey waste a single second of her senior year helping the other girls on the cheerleading squad, or God forbid, other girls who don't even cheer at all, learn how to look better, act better, get guys, or get into college, she'd laugh at you. She's not wasting her senior year like that.

You, my friend, are Stacey.

Brad, captain of the football team, leaves it all on the field, sure. But his connections to his teammates don't end there, and his desire to perform doesn't end at the sidelines. He helped his teammate Jamal pass pre-calc last year so he could stay on the team. He plays catch with his little brother and some of the other neighborhood boys in the back yard on Saturdays when he doesn't have games. He drives Alan, the guy who plays clarinet in the bad, to school each day since Alan lives just down the street from him. And since there's a football party after school this Friday night, he tells Alan that he should come and introduces him to some of the ladies.

I'm not saying guys should go crazy and not put on their own oxygen mask on the plane first. Just that they should be more like Brad and less like Stacey.

[–]cpk8080 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Much appreciated post, I too think theres a huge lack of brotherhood among men these days. The only way we will be able to return to normal as a society is to embrace this idea you've posted. It actually makes me cringe when I see posts on here talking about fucking some dudes gf and him not even knowing about it. Its like.. come on dude, we know how most girls are and now you're taking joy out of disrespecting some other dude. Of course, if you don't know they girl has a bf and it happens thats one thing, but I would never keep hooking up with some girl whose going behind her bfs back like that, its about respect. So many men have a lack of respect for their brothers these days, and women.. well women are completely taking off in the other direction, they are uniting against men and men won't even take the first steps to counteract this. TRP should be more about brotherhood and making each other better in more ways than just fucking as many women as possible.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Brad helped Jamal with math so he, the QB, had someone to pass it too.

Even being a leader you help others for selfish intent cus you want to lead people .

And no I'd never let my squad, team,crew , or posse fuck my women . I'll help them get their own instead

[–]Starfuckingman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think it all needs some balance, to be honest. Like, some people actually would seem like they need your help but if you do (like telling a bro his gf is a whore), they'd cut you out and blame the guy who fucked her. Just be careful when your doing this, help those who actually through your trp understanding of things, would truly benefit from your help in this modern world instead of being all in like an idiot.

[–]3CainPrice[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right. Show more than tell. You can't Red Pill a guy who's not there.

But you can invite clarinet band guy Alan or skinny-Bill the nerd to the party and introduce them to some of the girls. You can spend time with your younger brother. You can spend a weekend bringing a smile to a war veteran's face. And you can let the other guys you're trying to help see you do this and see how you live, how you interact with girls, and what the party is like. Rather than rolling your eyes at what losers those guys are.

[–]textualintercourse 3 points4 points  (14 children)

It sounds like cucking yourself to be honest. "Oh, World of Warcraft Billy can't get laid, I have 4 plates. Here WoW Billy, take one of my plates for the night."

No thanks.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yep exactly you get it 100 percent

[–]jebemtvoju 1 point2 points  (11 children)

don't you realize you're bulding something greater than yourself?

[–]textualintercourse 0 points1 point  (8 children)

In a sexual context, you fucking your woman/gf/wife/ltr/plate... IS the highest achievement. It's not a team sport. In fact the more the world falls for the socialist/Globalist fraud, the more men like me will thrive in the sexual market.

[–]jebemtvoju 0 points1 point  (1 child)

if you fail to ensure sex for pasty skinny socially awkward engineers you can say goodbye to circuit boards and the sewer system

[–]Starfuckingman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you elaborate more on the socialist/globalist fraud?

[–]EL_Miore -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I've one is happy with 4 plates and won't share, then they lack clear abundance. It's not even an LTR, and they feel the need to own these women.

"Get your own, this is mine. My land, my toys, my car, my woman." That's the tell sign of materialism.

[–]Starfuckingman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Nope. That's an incorrect take or rather unbalanced to the wrong side. I suggest you revise yourself.

[–]EL_Miore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What "wrong side"? There is no "wrong side", there is only perspective.

Nobody owns shit here but their own minds. If we ain't taking it to the grave with us, then it ain't ours.

[–]textualintercourse -1 points0 points  (1 child)

This is the fucking most soibeta fucktardery I've read. Go back to purplepill.

[–]ExternalKing 0 points1 point  (1 child)

There's nothing greater than myself.

[–]jebemtvoju 0 points1 point  (0 children)

good, but game women not me

[–]gbdoragnic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no, it means helping billy out if he wants it, billy still has to do his part

[–]jebemtvoju 1 point2 points  (1 child)

online communities will never be a brotherhood, that's obvious, you've never even met

I think what CainPrice main point is is to focus on the men around you in your struggle to live in a modern world (and don't be mistaken, it is very much a struggle).

Helping your fellow men get pussy isn't rewarding weakness. What helps a community grow isn't what women deem worthy of a reward. They'll reward (read: fuck) whoever looks like he's valuable regardless of reality. Women judge reality impulsively and emotionally and to allude to the story in the post; it isn't wise rationally and long-term to punish a man who has proven his strength by brigning in the food countless times for getting unlucky and not bringing in anything for a couple of night. The women will, given their opportunistic nature, punish such a man. The actual rewards, punishment and reinforcement should (coming from a parctical standpoint) be left for the brotherhood to act out, completely separate from women.

individualism is an illness

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I respect your points - theyre articulate and interesting.

I will say that rewarding a man who brings food in, make sense.

Helping a guy who has trouble bringing in food, because he asked for the help make sense.

Giving a man food is being an enabler, and promoting cuckoldry.


EDIT::

The world is untangling itself, going backwards, it is going from global consciousness down to national consciousness down to local consciousness down to your consciouness - then it expands once more into local consciousness, national consciousness, global consciousness and THEN we have galactic consciousness and contact.

[–]EL_Miore 0 points1 point  (3 children)

People like u/LiveAFTSOV are people who value pussy over everything.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Little boys run around confused, trying to stick their dick inside every little baddie they come across.

Men know what goal(s) they are aiming for, do everything to make their fantasies into reality, and then the girls come to him.

The price of masculinity.

-- recent tweet of mine

[–]EL_Miore 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Buddha Gautama was tempted during his meditations under the Bodhi tree.

He left his life of a palace prince and became an ascetic. One may call him foolish, another will call him enlightened.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We are all fools, but he was definitely enlightened!

[–]abudun79 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The title got me thinking this can only be shit, but I wanted to be fair and read it before I fix my opinion.

But as soon as someone starts out like you did in this article, nothing good is going to come later. And so it was.

Grow up, man.

[–]Durden_Soap 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It isn't that this forum should become a brotherhood, but that MEN should support each other. I think this advice applies to real life, not to this sub.

[–]mette13 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This subreddit isn't meant to be a brotherhood, its a toolbox and a collection of notes to use at your leisure. Any TRP veteran knows its a waste of energy to try and unplug other people, they have to choose to unplug themselves. Enjoy the decline.

[–]3CainPrice[S] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Men used to be a brotherhood without Reddit, but lost their way.

When we were kids, we'd play with other boys on the playground and stick our tongues out at girls because that's what we wanted. We were boys and we valued our guy friends. But as we grew up, instead of learning to value our male circles the way our grandfathers did, with women as the side-pieces to a well-lived masculine life, we grew up to value women and prioritize them as center-pieces in our lives.

The Red Pill is great for fixing that last part. Breaking free of a life lived for women. But once free from women, guys flounder about trying to invent missions for themselves. They become fixated on fitness, money, sex, and generally live lives of self-gratification and hedonism. Spending a Saturday afternoon with the old guy in the wheelchair who got his legs blown off in the war and getting a smile out of him used to be fulfilling. Now it's a waste of time we could be making money or getting laid.

We're disconnected now, and that wasn't always the case.

[–]foreignbois 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your point bro, and you're probably going to call me still not fully unplugged, but I'd take hearing the stories of an old war veteran over fucking some random plate... Just sounds more interesting and fulfilling than getting some quick and easy ass. Though I'd take making money or getting shit done for myself over either, that's for sure.

[–]aplodan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BS , focus on yourself and forget about other men ...

[–]SmamelessMe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is all a huge conjecture.

The whole point of TRP introspection is not to become a selfish, narcissistic Adonis. It is to fix your flaws and attain mastery of something. You can ask to be invited to the society of men after you have something to offer.

In nerdy Billy terms from your example, nobody will provide for someone who gives no benefit to the group. There is no male brotherhood for those who are leech off off others after they should have already been grown up. But if the nerdy Billy learns the best way to build spears, and exchanges them with the other men for marks, that's another story.

Most of us found that the hard way that those who insist on remaining children, that need to be provided for, are not welcome among men. That's why we are here. That's why we concentrate on fixing our selves first.

[–]gbdoragnic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TRP is not about attaining mastery, that is a separate goal, rather money or artistic those are your choices not related to women in anyway.

Enjoying the decline if you wish but men are being treated sub human and it's starting to show, They are using these abused men to justify attacking us, if nothing else remember you will be judge like the worst of these men

[–]ExternalKing 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Anyone with an ounce of RP understanding will immediately recoil at the thought of a "brotherhood" and "altruism". We are in a competition with each other, and its kill or be killed. The only thing i can say to you all is: Good luck.

[–]Starfuckingman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's definitely about a balance of those two. Altruism and selfishness. I'd always say 60 - 70% selfishness and 20% altruism (I am aware of the wrong percentage). But being completely to your own is definitely wrong.

[–]takenalreadyisun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We need to stop prioritizing pussy so much. Simple as that.

[–]gbdoragnic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Men have lost their sense of brotherhood.

No, it's illegal, male only spaces are not allowed by law

> Today, most men are wankers.

Abused is the word, not a wanker,