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Rant/VentingBrett Kavanaugh's Tears: Women Can't Understand Male Emotion (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Psychological_Radish

There is plenty to discuss about the Kavanaugh fiasco, but one aspect that has struck me as particularly cruel is the backlash against his emotional display. The mainstream press has dignified this grotesque evisceration by publishing the criticism, much of it written by women. I won't link to any examples, but anyone can find them pretty easily.

In short, the disgust over Kavanaugh's tears provides a prime example of a simple truth: women are not only incapable of understanding male vulnerability, but instinctively react with loathing when they do encounter it.

Here’s the painful pattern that emerged from my research with men: We ask them to be vulnerable, we beg them to let us in, and we plead with them to tell us when they’re afraid, but the truth is that most women can’t stomach it. In those moments when real vulnerability happens in men, most of us recoil with fear and that fear manifests as everything from disappointment to disgust. -Brene Brown

Even Saturday Night Live just now mocked Kavanaugh for shedding tears over his calendars. From a feminine perspective, this makes no sense whatsoever...a woman got sexually assaulted and you are crying over calendars?

The calendar, of course, was merely incidental. Kavanaugh choked up at the thought the person who started the tradition - his father, the primary model of masculinity in his life. He cried at memories of camaraderie with his friends - brotherhood, duty. The all too familiar feeling of humiliation, rage, disappointment, sadness, and injustice all rolled into one as his career - the major source of masculine purpose - gets dragged through the mud in front of the whole country.

I recall reading on this sub once that when a woman watches Saving Private Ryan, she might as well be looking at static. She fundamentally lacks the ability to understand a man's emotional core.

The strong, silent man is a masculine archetype for a reason.

We tell boys not to cry for a reason.

Insults such as "pussy" are there for a reason.

Never cry in front of a woman, except when your parents die.


[–]Cum_Victor 444 points445 points  (39 children)

When a man doesn't show emotion, it is toxic masculinity.

When a man shows emotion, they mock him.

Nothing new really.

[–]Opioidus 90 points91 points  (2 children)

A man's tears are true, women cry as easily as they laugh, it's meaningless.

[–]RedPill115 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's not usually meaningless, it's just the difference between someone who wrecks their only car, vs someone who wrecks their car but they have a warehouse of cars at home.

I see a guy cry once he's depressed the whole year. I see a girl bawl her eyeballs out, a week later she's over it and having a good time.

[–]Truedemocracy4 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Even worse they turn the water works on to get what they want. It's ridiculous

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 175 points176 points  (17 children)

When a man doesn't show emotion, it is toxic masculinity.

When a man shows emotion, they mock him.

The first is their ideology talking.

The second is their nature talking.

[–]ANGRY_ATHEIST 61 points62 points  (3 children)

Really, the first is just an indirect result of their nature, aka the hamster. When you break down the term "toxic masculinity", it's essentially just anything that goes against female sexual strategy, e.g. slut shaming etc.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Well spotted.

As Rollo says, women viscerally react with disgust at “manspreading” because they unconsciously interpret it as a sexual display from a man that her hypergamous impulse as categorised as a “beta”, thus kicking the hamster into drive.

And so it works with anything labelled “toxic masculinity”. Hypergamy dictates that every move from a man deemed alpha is fine (seen recently that video of that bodybuilder beating his woman to a pulp and her not pressing charges because she doesn’t want him to go to jail because she thinks it’s her fault?). But any move from beta men must be constrained to serve feminine needs, and thus shamed into oblivion.

A beta man not showing emotion is a beast of burden that doesn’t behave in a way that facilitates its control. So it is toxic masculinity.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 15 points16 points  (0 children)

If men werent so beta, this wouldnt be an issue.

The more masculine men are, the more feminine women become.

[–]Orbiter45 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A beta man not showing emotion is a beast of burden that doesn’t behave in a way that facilitates its control. So it is toxic masculinity

Thats true, and something worth meditating on, thanks.

[–]DownyGall 23 points24 points  (2 children)

I disagree. A lot of women on the Right understood Kavanaugh and thought it was beautiful his shows of emotion. What this really was about was the Left’s hatred of masculinity.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 10 points11 points  (4 children)

I read somewhere that vulnerability is powerful among males -- look at upright posture.

Neck and chest exposed, standing upright, a bigger target. More people see you, but you dont fear any threat so it's okay, because of the confidence developed by virtue of being a man.

It has to be the right kind of vulnerability.

I let myself be vulnerable when I go for the approach and risk a fail. That's the right kind of vulnerability (I guess risk taking)

[–]Zech4riah 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This can be seen in the animal kingdom as well.

For example Peacocks. The bigger tail and feathers peacock male has, the more interested females are.

One of the two main reasons for attraction is obvious: - Male is healthy and strong

The other reason is: - The male is so badass than it can survive with big apparent feathers even tho every predator will spot it easily (sort of translates to a man walking around neck, chest etc exposed etc)

[–]chaseemall 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don’t see this as vulnerability, but a kind of untouchability. We all know what is meant by vulnerability, which is to signal weakness. To proudly show your neck is to signal strength, not weakness.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To be so confident, and bold, as to expose vulnerable points, knowing no one would dare harm us, and even if someone did, we would be more than capable of handling the situation, that is the untouchability you speak of.

[–]RedPill115 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've read that the highest credit scores go to people who have missed a few bills. Not people who have missed a lot of bills, not people who have missed 0 bills either.

Because that is the pattern of people who are financially healthy - that they are not a paranoid-level of concern about not missing a payment. They can afford to get hit with a fee here and there because small charges are just an annoyance to them.

[–]thirdincomestream 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Simply misdirection, and not only aimed at the male side of the equation.

Eventually, this ideology may convince a generation of women that they actually do want to be with a man who can show his emotions and eliminate his "toxic masculinity."

There are forces in this world that seek to make men and women miserable with one another, probably in order to capitalize on the wealth transfer that occurs via divorce and the payments that follow. When you consider that old statistic that you see thrown around this sub from time to time, that women make around 75% of purchases/purchasing decisions, you suddenly see a very large economic incentive to encourage women to marry men who they will ultimately be unhappy with, resulting in this divorce wealth transfer and the propping up of an economy that would only be a fraction of its size if men made their own decisions with their money.

[–]RedPill115 4 points5 points  (1 child)

suddenly see a very large economic incentive to encourage women to marry men who they will ultimately be unhappy with

Finally someone else noticing this.

Single women:
- Need to pay for their own apartment, vs living at a guys place
- Need to get a job to pay for their place
- Spend money going out to bars, and buying things to try to fill the emotional holes in their life.

That's feminist saying consistently revolve around a theme of "Work is freedom, relationships are oppression".

[–]Turkerthelurker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Single women: - Need to pay for their own apartment, vs living at a guys place - Need to get a job to pay for their place - Spend money going out to bars, and buying things to try to fill the emotional holes in their life.

That's feminist saying consistently revolve around a theme of "Work is freedom, relationships are oppression".

To a lesser extent, the additional spending goes both ways. Men spend money on restaraunts & dating, on video games, it requires both men and women to be employed, to pay for childcare services, etc. If you zoom out, you'll see it also increases the need for cheap housing, so less home ownership and more apartments. Damaged families result in damaged kids, who will likely be in a worse financial situation. At every fucking step of the way, someone is making a quick buck while western society implodes.

[–]Truedemocracy4 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Understanding the difference is the red pill. Same with equality. Women want equality in relationships. Their nature doesn't

[–]Starfuckingman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. And you have to play the game with unsaid words, with actions that you don't explain.

[–]SKRedPill 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Women and their lack of frame. How did we take them seriously?

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Their frame is a glass container that can be stuffed with any flavor of liquid, or smashed. With the loyalty of potatoes to boot.

[–]Turkerthelurker 3 points4 points  (2 children)

More like women are the liquid that take the shape of the vessel they're in (a relationship or interaction). Without a solid vessel, they go with the flow, move freely, etc. describing hypergamy.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Makes sense. But they are still an empty vessel waiting for a strong man to fill her with the right ideals

[–]Turkerthelurker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, both analogies work. Reminds me of this parable from the Tao te Ching:

Thirty spokes share the wheel's hub;

It is the center hole that makes it useful.

Shape clay into a vessel;

It is the space within that makes it useful.

Cut doors and windows for a room;

It is the holes which make it useful.

Therefore profit comes from what is there;

Usefulness from what is not there.

[–]Starfuckingman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their pretty faces and juicy butts? Gotta look to what's under there though. God bless TRP.

[–]unquenchable53 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When a man doesn't show emotion, it's toxic masculinity.

When a man shows emotion, it's fragile masculinity.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 88 points89 points  (3 children)

People, particularly women, find crying in men disgusting, what is there not to understand?

[–]Demiurge_Decline 20 points21 points  (1 child)

The reason women find men crying as disgusting is because they know 90% of the time their cries have been manipulative since they were watching Sesame Street. They don't trust it because they dont trust their own.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The conventional RP wisdom is that women despise weakness. What you stated could play a role in it.

[–]MardGeer 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I find crying gross and manipulative, even from women. It's a good defense mechanism I built on distrust.

[–]KrakaLakak 227 points228 points  (42 children)

The fact that someone can pull a "rape" case on you 35 years later with no previous reports and you are the one that needs to prove your innocence is mind boggling to me. The fact that this is still an ongoing case is all i wanna know about America.

That's also probably the reason this sub got quarantined. Retarded case.

[–]tempolaca 161 points162 points  (20 children)

Not only 35 years later. Exactly at the time when he's postulating for public office. I mean, how can't anybody see this other than a incredibly obvious political manipulation? really? you waited 35 years and reported exactly now?

[–]free-- 61 points62 points  (14 children)

She said why come forward now is because it's her civic duty to prevent such a person (as Kavanaugh) to have that position.

If he is indeed a gang rapist I'd understand that, but he have been an attorney for a long time and in this gang rapist narrative, raping is something he is doing to this day.

If she truly believes in civic duty, she would have come forward to put this rapist down, decades ago.

[–]34381 59 points60 points  (6 children)

Not to mention, if all of these other allegations are true, Christine Ford is a monster for not coming forward and bringing Kavanaugh to justice before he could rape others. The senators were all falling all over each other to call her 'courageous'. Bullshit. She owes an apology to the other victims for failing to act earlier.

[–]Random_throwaway_000 25 points26 points  (3 children)

The Republicans were smart in yielding their time to the FEMALE prosecutor. Being shown on national TV destroying Ford's non-story will never be portrayed well despite being exactly what was needed. I wanted someone to ask how she knew she didn't drink before the party but absolutely no other details before the party, or even many details during. I'm just disappointed that only Lindsey Graham spoke up to defend Kavanaugh.

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

She owes an apology to the other victims for failing to act earlier.

This is exactly how I feel about successful women of Hollywood only now coming out and crying #metoo regarding Weinstein.

No, I don't feel sorry for you, you made a deal with the devil for your fame.

I feel sorry for the ladies who said "no" to Harvey's wondering hands and then got blacklisted. They are the victims!

The Hollywood rich and famous who now want sympathy are detracting from what the real victims went through.

[–]DownyGall 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Think of all the women she allowed him to rape these years since! But no, the shame! The shame!

[–]BewareTheOldMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"If [Christine Ford] truly believes in civic duty, she would have come forward to put this rapist down, decades ago."

This woman and women like her are hugely problematic.

The optics on her "recent" 35-year-old sexual assault accusation are terrible. Even if she's telling the truth, the timing is 30-plus years late. She's looking real bad on this whole thing.

Kavanaugh should have never had a chance at a career in law. The huge takeaway is that women have to report these crimes in a timely manner.

[–]techless 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sugar Ray Leonard waited 40yrs to reveal he was sexually abused at 15. This really isn't uncommon. You wanna go tell SRL he was a coward for letting that coach off he hook for decades? How long did the Catholic Church get away with it? This shit is very common

[–]wanderer779 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People can come forward anytime. But we’re not gonna penalize the guy unless they can prove it. And we’re not gonna sit and wait while they stall till midterms to do so.

If she wants to I suppose she can still go forward with criminal charges after he’s confirmed. But my best guess is she’ll disappear after her political uitility expires.

[–]free-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are we going to ignore the differences between their cases?

  • Sexual assault awareness is primarily focused on women, as is the support groups.

  • Growing up it is ingrained in us that rape is a women's issue. This and the above creates a safe environment for women to come forward, while it discourages men.

  • Society thinks men can't be raped or that it isn't a big deal if they are, this is less true in 2018, but not when he came forward almost a decade ago and especially prior to that.

  • All of the above makes it difficult for men to come forward but especially for a boxer. I'm sure that locker room environment creates for even higher expectations of toughness than what regular people are faced with. I mean he was doubted "because he is a boxer so he should be able to defend himself"

  • Ford was assaulted by someone close to her age, someone she didn't trust (oh this matters so fucking much) and which wasn't a authority figure. Leo was raped by a authority figure, someone he probably trusted seeing as it was his coach.

There is context to why people come forward when they do. I can see why Leo waited so long, I can't see why Ford did. Feel free to agree to disagree tho.

[–]Thunder__Fuck 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Exactly at the time when he's postulating for public office.

I wouldn't be shocked if another accusation comes during this week-long FBI investigation; "Another woman has surfaced. I propose we hold off on the nomination until we figure this out...and if we hold it off until after November, I wouldn't complain."

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 9 points10 points  (2 children)

What’s really surprising is that #metoo has been going on for a while now.

The feminist mainstream and social media have been inundating everyone with women “coming out” after their alledged abusers.. and BK’s accusers have been watching it all unfold and said absolutely nothing about the evil man that ruined their lives 40y ago... until oh right when he got nominated for office at a super important position..

This will apply to all future accusations of men running for office. “Why didn’t you say anything in 2018 when it was the hot topic?”

[–]Flawless44 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It definitely is political manipulation. However, having watched the hearings, he was lying. He did it, and he's upset that it has come to bite him in the ass now.

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    [–]reluctantly_red 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    she's given out so little "evidence" in her statements that it's next to impossible for Kavanaugh to possibly have a concrete alibi or provide any supporting evidence of his own

    Which is why the FBI should have investigated and reported before the hearing.

    [–]NeedingAdvice86 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Investigate what exactly?

    And why? This is STUPID.

    Example:
    I have evidence that you molested a child when you were 14 years old...but I am not going to tell you where, when, or even who you molested...now prove your innocence you pedophile pervert piece of shit???????

    How do you investigate something that is entirely in the mind of the accuser?

    [–]reluctantly_red 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Funny -- we always seem to believe accusations made by boys against priests.

    [–]blr1998 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    you are innocent until proven guilty. i don’t give a fuck what people think it can stain your reputation or whatever but a real man knows his rights and uses the legal systems to his advantage... innocent untic proven guilty. if there is any reasonable doubt, there is no crime.

    [–]2johnnight 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    Sub got quarantined because Democrats' strategists have determined what the big support hubs for Trump are and they are now snuffing them out one by one.

    [–]reluctantly_red -1 points0 points  (8 children)

    35 years later

    Sorry but when you're seeking a position of this level your entire life is on the line. Ted Kennedy's behavior disqualified him from the Presidency.

    [–]surfsusa 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    But Ted Kennedy Was exposed from the beginning and was given a pass and allowed to be a Senator and Continue being a Senator when other allegations came forward and also the left called him the Lion of the Senate, (not like in a predator (although he really was)). The Left is so Hypocritical.

    [–]NeedingAdvice86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Bill Clinton speaks every year at their National Convention.....so what can you say to people of that ilk.

    [–]reluctantly_red -1 points0 points  (4 children)

    Kavanaugh will be given the same pass and allowed to continue as a court of appeals judge.

    [–]RedPillWintergreen 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    No he won't. If he is convicted in the court of public opinion of being a sexual predator his career is effectively over.

    [–]Not_Another_Inch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    No, he will be the next SC justice because we aren't buying what you're selling anymore. Take it to the bank friend.

    [–]RedPillWintergreen 66 points67 points  (2 children)

    He didn't cry over his calendars. He got choked up when he talked about how his daughter prayed for his accuser. And it was highly effective from a persuasion standpoint. A much worse strategy would have been to try to come off as an unemotional automaton.

    A much more eloquent man than me could probably examine the difference between the male and female psych at play here. On the one hand is an accusing woman with nothing but emotion on her side. On the other is a straight laced male that kept detailed calendars.

    [–]Psychological_Radish[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    There were numerous moments, the calendars part was just not the most dramatic or memorable.

    I would agree that the showing was persuasive (and needed to be), but the point is how the feminist media reacted.

    [–]ricoue 63 points64 points  (13 children)

    It might have more to do with what political side you are on. When Obama cried during his gun violence speech he was praised by almost all news outlets.

    [–]reluctantly_red 22 points23 points  (0 children)

    There's a world of difference between shedding tears of empathy and being a whinny entitled ass.

    [–]NotLuceBree 52 points53 points  (6 children)

    I found the reaction to Kavanaugh's anguish disgusting. Let's also remember that he choked up when recounting how his ten year old daughter suggested they pray for Ford.

    They dismiss this man's emotion--an understandable response to a stressful situation during which his reputation has been destroyed and his family threatened--as an entitled tantrum.

    I know this is the wrong sub, but there's a reason MGTOW is exploding right now.

    [–]ImHerWonderland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I don't keep cable at home, and lately I've been focused completely on excersise, work, and studying for my BA so I'm completely out of the loop on current events besides bill Cosby memes. Is there anywhere you can link me where I can get a summary of what this is all about that isn't some feminist bullshit? It seems interesting.

    [–]yesbuthereswhy 28 points29 points  (5 children)

    women are not only incapable of understanding male vulnerability, but instinctively react with loathing when they do encounter it.

    Last night I went out to a comedy club in the city. A woman from a very liberal city in California was one of the comedians that night. She tried shitting on Kavanaugh and the crowd wasn't having any of it. This was her remark, "This has been such a hard week for women all over the country. Can we just agree that rape is bad?" After the show I decided to check out her twitter to see how fucked up she really was and one of her most recent tweets said, "Impeach all men."

    Make no mistake men. Feminism is not here to make women's lives better. Feminism is sexism disguised as progress for a group of women who want the world to burn and they're taking no prisoners. The mission of feminism is to destroy your masculinity and they will stop at nothing to do it.

    [–]Imperator_Red 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    The purpose of feminism was to allow unattractive women who were very low on the social pecking order more power in mainstream society.

    [–]redpilluk 9 points10 points  (2 children)

    What the fuck? You pay money to watch female comedians? Insane left wing feminist female comedians? Why, to heckle them?

    [–]yesbuthereswhy 12 points13 points  (1 child)

    The others were fine. She was the only crappy one.

    [–]RedPill115 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Feminism is not here to make women's lives better.

    That is spot on.

    Feminism is the combination of 2 things:
    1. The most miserable women who want to make all the other women and men miserable to (misery loves company)
    2. Corporate interests who see it an an excellent platform to push money-making ideas through (making sandwhiches for your husband is oppression! making sandwhiches at subway makes you a proud career woman!).

    [–]Frenchy100 25 points26 points  (0 children)

    Pay attention to Kavanaugh's wife as he cries. She looks at him with tenderness. That is a strong quality woman who supports her husband right there.

    [–]Gimmick_puppet 54 points55 points  (7 children)

    I too am watching SNL. And as soon as I saw the title I knew that it was about the opening skit. Nothing about it surprised me, but it was still gut wrenching seeing the absolute lack of empathy towards Kauvanagh. I saw the hearing live. I was moved, the conservative senators were moved, and even the news anchors were visibly moved. But the SNL writers felt nothing. They laughed, they felt disgust, hate, anger, but no empathy. It was like they saw him as less than human. I mean it's fun poking holes at the logical inconsistencies. SNL made jokes about how the conservative senators had already made up their minds before the hearing even started but the liberal senators and media were already protesting before any candidate was even chosen. They made a frat party skit where they joked that party goers would suffer future consequences for their drunken antics. Then the last joke was this party would become a story on the Rolling Stones but must have forgotten the real Rolling Stone story was a false allegation.

    [–]DownyGall 22 points23 points  (3 children)

    I get them making fun of the calendars, that’s relatively understandable and an easy thing to poke fun at. It’s the making fun of the tears that’s stupid. He was getting choked up because it was his Dad that started the calendar tradition. If he was choked up about the calendars, yeah that’s weird. I guess it’s just sad that the why behind the choking up went over SNL’s heads and they just saw it as him crying about calendars.

    [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (1 child)

    Ever since SNL did that mopey sorrowful piano piece after Trump was elected that show can't claim it is all about comedy.

    From time to time they'll actually poke fun at the liberal bubble - but it is fairly rare.

    Sometimes SNL is just plain political.

    [–]DownyGall 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    I mean they easily could have made fun of Ford with her Valley girl/munchkin voice at the age of 50. Though that’s a little unseemly I guess.

    Well, either way, they rarely make fun of the libs and when they do it’s in service of the Left. For example, the sketch when they made fun of male feminists getting angry at getting rejected was totally brilliant BUT the undercurrent was that we need true male feminists and not real men.

    [–]throwme1623 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    His dad's still alive tho. I thought at the time the same thing, he was crying remembering his deceased father, that would be understandable, but his father was literally at that hearing.

    [–]Hillary_For_Prison 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    It was like they saw him as less than human.

    That is exactly how they see anyone who is not on their side. Everyone who is not a leftist is an un-person to the leftists. This is how they justify their By Any Means Necessary rhetoric. To them, people who disagree with their ideology are not people and they do not feel bad destroying them.

    [–]Truedemocracy4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Let's not forget that they said Grahams response was because he was "positioning for Trumps cabinet" even though he has no such ambition, yet completely didn't play the same joke which was much more applicable for booker

    [–]Truedemocracy4 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    Women want you to open up to them and show emotion but ONLY when it makes them feel like you trust them deeply and NOT to support you. Trust me, you see a difference

    You get yelled at at work, or lose a job, or have a bad day, and cry in front of them they'll view you as weak and not capable of leading the household. However, if you cry for a legit reason (and there aren't many) then they will feel as part of your "secret club" in a way.

    I'd limit reasons to cry in front of a SO to death of close friend or family member, birth of child, maybe death of a dog. That's it

    [–]34381 28 points29 points  (0 children)

    When the news media reported he showed 'anger', I thought it would be more accurately described as righteous indignation. I watched the whole hearings and I thought it kind of funny the still frames of their faces the media chose to lead with - Christine's tearful anguish and Kavanaugh's face contorted with rage. A few milliseconds either way would have been entirely different.

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 30 points31 points  (1 child)

    I recall reading on this sub once that when a woman watches Saving Private Ryan, she might as well be looking at static. She fundamentally lacks the ability to understand a man's emotional core.

    It's not that she doesn't understand, it's that she doesn't give a fuck.

    Male toil, suffering, pain and death means nothing to her.... and in fact is often very useful. Women in the west wouldn't have access to a tenth of the resources they do if men hadn't fought and died for them.

    [–]ARUKET 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    I remember when I watched Whiplash with my sister, the unbelievable psychological torment that the protagonist was going through under his teacher, struggling for greatness, that shit was intense. I found it to be a heart pounding movie. On the other hand my sister would laugh whenever the teacher would verbally abuse the protagonist. Zero empathy for male suffering.

    [–]Imperator_Red 20 points21 points  (1 child)

    I try not to view the world through a moral lens anymore, but it's hard not to view the left as pure evil at this point.

    [–]TheSelfGoverned 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    They have a point with the plight of the working class and being anti-war...

    Oh wait, the left never discusses that anymore, and they MOST CERTAINLY have no solutions. Trump is fully anti-war, and more interested in helping the poor than the entire democrat machine.

    [–]JVirgil 18 points19 points  (1 child)

    I think on some level the disgust for Kavanaugh's emotion is to protect themselves from having to confront the fact that they are responsible for the character assassination of a perfectly respectable man.

    [–]user02965 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    "Patriarchal society doesn't allow men to show emotions!!"

    later:

    "Brett Kavanaugh is just an ANGRY WHITE MAN!"

    [–]whenfoom 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    My theory is that TRP got quarantined because of this smear campaign and its inevitable fallout.

    [–]DownyGall 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    I just watched Unforgiven and got very emotional at the end, with that final poem and the music and the sunset. I don’t think a woman could understand that. Going back to avenge/honor your brother in arms. Absolutely beautiful. Amazing masculine filmmaking.

    [–]1Original_Dankster 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    And just a year or so back, Canada's (female) Foreign Minister walked out of a trade negotiation and broke down in tears because she couldn't get her way, and the media fawned over her.

    http://archive.is/FmXYC

    https://archive.fo/yvxLK

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 15 points16 points  (12 children)

    And that exception for parental death should give you what kind of advantage exactly?

    [–]trpalternate 51 points52 points  (5 children)

    The final straw that yanked the plugs out of my head was when my grandma died.

    I wasn't working at the time, and I got the news late at night. The next day, I stayed at home and took some time for myself and frankly didn't feel like doing much.

    My wife decided that would be a good time to berate me for not doing dishes.

    [–]SKRedPill 17 points18 points  (3 children)

    All that ok. Still, women need to learn their boundaries. That was insensitive of her.

    [–]trpalternate 27 points28 points  (2 children)

    It was, but viewing it through the lens of the Feminine Imperative, it makes perfect sense.

    We got married a few months prior, and as I mentioned, I was out of work for a bit at the time. Of course, I thought that since I'd supported her for a while before we were married, she'd be understanding while I looked for work in a shit economy. Not to mention that I was still in the Blue Pill "true wuv for ever" mindset.

    Of course, that's not how the female brain works.

    From her standpoint, I was becoming weak. I had no idea what shit tests were, so I was failing them left and right without even knowing. This of course, caused her to get increasingly agitated, and I'd respond by trying to placate her. Cue more shit tests, and the vicious cycle repeats. This went on for a while.

    The incident above was what finally got me to read and understand TRP. The dominoes fell one by one.

    Crash Solisism. What mattered wasn't the economy, or what jobs are available, or that my mind really wasn't on dishes at that moment. Women see the world through their own emotional state. And hers was that she'd just hitched her wagon to a guy who made her feel upset for reasons she couldn't quite place. My emotional state, of course, could have been another country for all she cared.

    Crash Briffault's Law. In that moment, she wasn't thinking about what I'd done for her previously. All that mattered was how she felt in the moment. Or, "But what have you done for me lately?"

    And of course, crash Hypergamy. The thread that tied it all together. Her shitty behavior was a result of her viewing my status as declining.

    I realized that I had to be the Captain, and that I was the one who had to right the ship. I hit the gym, started shutting down shit tests and stopped tolerating bad behaviour. The results, at the time, were almost uncanny. Five years later, I look back on those days as a reminder to never backslide or let my guard down.

    [–]redpilluk 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    You're still tolerating bad behaviour if she berates you for not washing the dishes though...

    [–]MardGeer 9 points10 points  (5 children)

    It doesn't, don't cry when your parents die in front of her. I think a poster once detailed how he handled it by working himself harder and not giving her any attention or something like that and it worked effectively.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 9 points10 points  (4 children)

    I’m asking OP specifically because when ones parent dies it’s usually the situation the bitch starts fucking someone else.

    And that’s also my experience.

    So I asked OP specifically to see if he walks the walk or just talks shit as everybody else.

    You blew it :-(

    [–]Psychological_Radish[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    Is Ron Swanson's advice about not crying except at funerals and the Grand Canyon supposed to be followed to the letter?

    Maybe the tongue in cheek nature of my remark wasn't clear, but I think it suffices to say that losing control of one's emotions in front of a woman should be reserved for circumstances totally out of one's control - such as the death of a loved one.

    [–]BlackFallout 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    Death of a loved on isn't good enough. An Ex 8 years ago cheated on me after my dad died, said I was being a bitch. My dad was my best friend. I told her to get the fuck out my house. Then I found the red pill and it all started to make sense.

    [–]BrownGummyBear 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    I’m glad you told her to fuck off

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It wasn’t. Dude, I hardly speak English and I don’t watch movies because that’s gay as fuck. Perhaps it would be understood by some better audience, like GLOs articles.

    [–]nomsgplz 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    I once told my gf that a man only cries at the birth of his daughter and the death of his mother. I thought that it was a beautiful sentiment, and any female would appreciate it. My gf reaction was that a man never cries. I said yeah I know he isn't supposed to, but not even a single tear on his mother's death? She said, that a man simply aren't capable of crying.

    Logically it didn't make sense, since she and me both knows and have seen men crying. Later I realized that she meant that the man when cries is no longer a man.

    [–]Nergaal 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    This sub is so full of toxic masculinity. /s

    [–]TheSelfGoverned 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    No, it is shameful fragile masculinity - because we talk about our feelings.

    [–]suaressi 3 points4 points  (4 children)

    is there a full video of the whole kavanaugh thing?

    [–]NeedingAdvice86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I don't think this is a manwoman thing but one of political persuasion.

    But not because any womenmen dynamic but because you are trying to put a rational interpretation on the reaction by LEFTISTPROGRESSIVES and that is never going to work out well.

    In the progressives eyes, Kavanaugh was fucked regardless of his reaction...if he cried then it is too be mocked as not real or something silly to thwart any chance that people would have tender feelings for their targetvictim, if he didn't cry or show emotion then it is a sign he isn't caring enough to be a judge or is coldguilty....they are after POWERWINNING so it doesn't matter how he reacted....it was going to be interpreted as a negative or something to mock depending on the tactic needed.

    He couldn't win either way but it wasn't because of female's distaste of crying men, it was because of the Left's quest to destroy their target in any way that they can. Even the SNL skit wasn't aimed at the crying, they needed to redirect any positive feelings from people toward Kavanaugh away from his remembrances of his Dad or fond memories of past friends or times to something that would make him a buffoon or a laughingstock....

    [–]SKRedPill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    And even when your parents die, only in a dignified manner. The more Subtle it is, the powerful it becomes.

    [–]DatAEK971 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    Just another prime example of why you should get video/audio/text/ record of consent. I know back in 81', they didn't have smartphones, but today there's no excuse. Learn from this guy's fuck up. Also, remember, your hand is your friend. Jerk that shit good. Your hand will not pen a rape beef on you 30 years later post knuckle soldier deployment.

    When your bitch won't give up the pussy, as the great Bill Burr said, "That's like her locking the fridge, but you still got a club sandwich in your pocket". Jerking off is a safe way to bust that nut. Pussy is overrated. And now it seems, quite volatile. Proceed with caution.

    [–]Shadowthrice 36 points37 points  (4 children)

    Get consent of what? Ford's accusations were fabricated from thin air.

    What possible recording could protect Kavanaugh from that?

    [–]DownyGall 7 points8 points  (3 children)

    You have to record your entire life

    [–]Truedemocracy4 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    That means nothing. You literally can't prevent a fake accusation

    [–]DownyGall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I know. I was being facetious.

    [–]Hillary_For_Prison 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That is what it has come to.

    I should probably get my son fit with a lapel video recorder and have him wear it whenever he leaves the house and to a data-dump to a cloud server very day. It might be useful for him to be able to account for where he was and what he was doing when he was 11 years old.

    [–]NeedingAdvice86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Will not matter...you can't video every single second of your life.

    This obviously crazy woman only claims that Kavanaugh grinded on her at a party but she claims to not know when or where if happened only it was at some point 35 years ago. She can't tell how she got to the party or who invited her to the party or even who was there. Hell even the five people she claimed could attest to her having been at this party ALL say that they don't remember any such event and her best friend who she said was there says that she never was at a party or met Brett Kavanaugh.

    There is no defense.....when you are the wrong side of the media and their favorite political group then you are guilty. If this was a Democrat appointee then the CNN. MSNBC, ABC, NYT and the rest would be destroying the hell out of any person who claimed such stupidness in public and "proving" that his woman was a nut.

    Of course, the reason that the details are so vague is precisely so that the charge can't be refuted...if this crazy lady came out and said that Kavanaugh raped her May 23rd 1982 at Joe Bob's house on 123 Maple Street, then the accused could show that he wasn't there or was at another party or was out of town....but by being purposely vague a person would have to try to remember every party, every weekend, every day and every encounter of any type with a girl which might could be misconstrued....35 YEARS AGO.

    For all we know, this chick was blind drunk, stumbling around in the hall and bumped into a couple of boys which turned into someone trying to grope her....who the hell knows.

    There is no defense against such things.

    [–]wawakaka 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    His tears were...Red pill rage tears

    Kavanagh just woke up

    This incident has the power to red pill men everywhere

    [–]brotein_synthesis 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Funerals and The Grand Canyon. These are the rules.

    [–]Hillary_For_Prison 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    I make an exception for publicly facing baseless life-ruining accusations made by mentally ill political activists in the name of politicians and parties who believe the ends justify the means.

    [–]Starfuckingman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    While I agree with this post, its also fair to say that I am personally aware of enough women at my social circles who sympathized with kavanaugh and called shit on a lot of other women. It made me a little bit happier to be honest that its not completely hopeless. Also, other women on facebook lives (when the hearing was happening) posted their support and got plenty of upvotes just as much as other women (though fewer) who made fun of it.

    [–]Notsouh78 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    I listened to the entire hearing over the radio. The minute he cracked, I felt for him. I'm not sure whether he's guilty or not. Our system tends be based on the idea that any persons accused of a crime are innocent UNTIL proven guilty. Aside from this woman just throwing accusations about? There is no evidence to prove her claims.

    Let's contrast this with another case that occurred recently involving Bill Cosby. The women in that case came forward IN DROVES because they knew Bill was a predator and belonged behind bars. Bill almost would have gotten away with it. He had a strong public image, and everyone never thought he'd actually turnout to be a rapist....but, the numbers were against him, and among that group of women who were assaulted? Some of them had actual proof. A LOT of these cases occurred years ago, but these women HAD PROOF.

    Anyhow, this is case is no longer taken seriously as it should be. I think that HAD Brett held it together? We would not be questioning any of his statements. We, as men, can sympathize with Brett to an extent, but we also know to maintain our emotions to reach an objective based outcome in our final judgment.

    I think Brett missed his dad, he missed his friends, he had good memories and good times that he remembered fondly. In a time when you are looked upon as human scum regardless of what you say or do? Looking back on good times will make you choke. But, we're men. Society won't allow us this display of weakness as they do women.

    Had Brett held it together? I have a feeling we wouldn't be doubting his story. Now? Well...Brett's guilty now, not because this woman is telling the truth, or because she has evidence, but because Brett showed weakness. Much as it may pain you boys? NEVER show weakness. Not to women, and not to society. But, if you're here? You knew that already...

    [–]Solon64 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    He isn't guilty.

    Whether he shows emotion or not, the facts are the facts and the truth is the truth, and if Ford can't prove that Kav raped her beyond a reasonable doubt, he's innocent, period, full stop, end of discussion.

    Saying "he's guilty because he showed emotion" is exactly the type of shit that mgtow and TRP and the manosphere is fighting against.

    [–]Notsouh78 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I agree with you and I agree with your final statement. I only say "he's guilty because he showed emotion" as I'm sure it's what some people are likely thinking. I don't think he's guilty myself. Not by burden of proof OR for showing emotion. Like I said, I feel for the guy, and there is no proof to show he did rape these women, but you can see how people reacted already. Doesn't matter if there's evidence, he's treated as guilty because of one simple thing...he showed a bit of weakness. It's fucked up, but it's the truth.

    [–]Im_Not_Kevin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks for this. Always good to review current events to see what knowledge and information is reaffirmed.

    I've read before on here the importance of not showing weakness to a woman, particularly emotionally. And I've had past experiences/dates/LTR pre-RP that fucked up because I showed that very weakness. Judge Kavanaugh's situation of female disdain has been seen time and time again.

    [–]Quigon-Jin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    My reaction to his indignation was OMG man, way too much DEER and not enough DARE

    [–]thirdincomestream 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    women are not only incapable of understanding male vulnerability

    This ain't it at all. Women know damn well what vulnerability and emotions look like. It's just that when these emotions are shown the majority of the time, the man showing them has already been reduced to being "not a man" or "too sensitive" or demhumanized in some other way for feeling something.

    They fully understand. They just don't care at worst, and at best, they're just scared because it means somebody doesn't have the situation handled already.

    And yes, as a man, if you want to keep a woman around, you have to have all the answers, or at least be confident enough to march into the unknown without flinching.

    It's not that women can't understand when a man is being vulnerable or emotional, it's that it disgusts them or really fucking scares them. I'd actually say they "understand" a man doing this a lot more than the man understands himself...

    But never show that shit to a woman. If you need help, reach out to a male friend, an older male family member, search this sub or the asktrp sub for a similar situation, fucking inbox someone you respect on here, or even get professional help if that's what you need to do. Just don't bother laying the shit on a woman. She won't be much help regarding your male suffering.

    [–]Quaternionz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Just a reminder of a great related Rational Male post: The Crying Game

    [–]yumyumgivemesome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If you think either of them were being anything close to genuine when displaying their emotions, you are a fucking idiot or so blinded by your political ideology that you are incapable of making a rational assessment. This goes for the Left and for the Right. It's fucking pathetic seeing you both get your panties twisted over this shit. Man the fuck up.

    [–]Zeparic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who's swallowed the pill. Men are expected to be the "rock" in the relationship ( it's an indicator of a good mate to women, but in sexual strategy it only matters because it produces tingles.)

    Not only that but think about it for a second, this dude is being accused of being a predator and people tend to go with the worst possible outcome. In their minds he's already guilty, assuming he was crying fake tears would be an incredibly disgusting act to swallow.

    [–]AbysswalkerGuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Holy shit the Saving Private Ryan part hit HOME HARD. I remember we had to look at that movie in middle school, all the girls were just uninterested/looking at their phones. I couldn't understand. Such a great movie about a big historical change, showing brave young men sacrificing themselves. They.Just.Didn't.Care

    [–]reluctantly_red -1 points0 points  (10 children)

    Sorry but Kavanaugh was an emotional wreck during his testimony. He's obviously does not have a judicial temperament.

    [–]surfsusa 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Walk in his shoes and endure what he endured for as long has he had to and then come back and say that. The left is up against the wall and they will do or say anything to prevent a shift in the court from left center to right. Their problem if he gets in and Ginsburg croaks before Trump leaves office and gets to pick another justice, then there will be 20-30 maybe 40 years of the Supreme Court actually doing its proper job by interpreting the Constitution and no more making up/ creating laws to appease the left because they couldn't get enough votes to get their bills passed. Their way of governing against the will of the people will be over.

    [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    He's obviously does not have a judicial temperament.

    By our standards, perhaps. The vast majority of the US doesn't share our standards.

    [–]Staatssicherheit_DDR 2 points3 points  (6 children)

    Haha. People like you are truly evil. I love it.

    [–]reluctantly_red -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

    Evil? I've seen evil. I've worked at big law firms in New York and San Francisco. They're full of rich entitled guys like Kavanaugh.

    [–]Staatssicherheit_DDR 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    Rich entitled brats like those Duke Lacrosse kids. 88 Duke Professors agree.

    [–]reluctantly_red -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

    The Duke kids did lie about scores of petty issues. Trial judges instruct juries that if they think a witness lied about one fact they should consider disbelieving everything he says.

    [–]Staatssicherheit_DDR 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    Speaking of falsus in uno, what do you make of Ford saying she had no idea that she could have given a sworn testimony at home? Do you think she was lying or do you think Katz lied to her?

    [–]reluctantly_red 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    The premise is only sort of true.

    [–]Staatssicherheit_DDR 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Why did Senator Feinstein not refer this matter over to the FBI but instead referred Ford over to Katz?

    [–]Walkebe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    He'd still be far preferable to a post menopausal woman.

    [–]Acrimont -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

    I react with loathing too, because no man should cry before others and nothing in politics occurs on accident or through stupidity.

    [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    nothing in politics occurs on accident or through stupidity.

    I take it that you don't live in California.

    [–]sleepyinbk -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    Maybe he's just a bitch-ass fuckboy twat? That's kind of the vibe I was getting with all the crying.

    [–]mussawi -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

    He cried, and she didn't. That's what made him look bad.

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      [–]Tek_Analyst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Not to mention her GoFund me account

      [–]Tomimi -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

      If you didn't do anything wrong, why worry about it? Why obstruct justice when there's no crime done?

      So what if he raped someone 35 years ago? It was still rape. If I killed someone 35 years ago, or I stole 35 years ago, or I beat someone 35 years ago doesn't mean it never happened.

      [–]NeedingAdvice86 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      You do know he didn't do anything wrong, right?

      His biggest crime, I suspect, is that he didn't even notice this somewhat crazy girl at a small gathering 35 years ago if they even ever met which is doubtful. None of the people she keeps swearing to be witnesses don't even remember ever being in the same house together much less having been in the room while somebody was getting raped.

      Poor woman has tons of emotionalmental issues which will come to light over time......whether they take down Kavanaugh or not.

      [–]theshameisreallyreal 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Aside from lie continuously. its demonstrated that he has perjured himself over numerous things not related to Blasey Ford. Once a Liar always a Liar.

      [–]NeedingAdvice86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      No he hasn't.....

      Changing the goalpost again...I see.

      The simple reality is that Kavanaugh was a A1 qualified candidate for the Supreme Court who had always been highly regarded by everyone with whom he had any legal or professional dealings for over 25 years including the ABA, several judicial appointmentscourts and as a Professor at Harvard. That is why he was confirmed for 3 other federal judgeships including the DC Circuit Court of Appeals which is the very center of major political decisions in the US.

      So because they had no way to professional disqualify a perfect candidate for the Supreme Court, some of the worst members of the Democrat Party tried to dive into the gutter to take this qualified candidate down...

      And talking about liars.....does this Ford woman fly or not? Or does she only get the vapers in flight when she has to fly over Reagan National or the Potomac?

      I feel sorry for the woman actually because she has obvious mental issues so someone close to her should have protected her from being used by such people as the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee in this way.

      You should be ashamed of your Party but that would be unlikely since power at all cost has always been the rallying cry of progressives and their allies.

      [–]dynospectrum7 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

      Sorry, but no. Kavanaugh was being a bitch.

      Both Obama and Trump got put through the ringer for their entire campaign seasons.

      Neither of them broke down like this. We're talking about someone who is about to be on the SCOTUS, and can't keep it together during a few hours of questioning.