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MetaHistorically there has never been a more important time in western society to discover positive masculinity (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Dartleather

TL;DR: As we move into a feminist society, it has never been harder for men to discover the true meaning of masculinity. Places like TheRedpill saves and improves the lives of countless numbers of men globally through the discovery of their positive masculinity. Sub quarantine and the potential removal harms and denies a lifeline for men who are desperately trying to find a path in life in order to avoid such things as depression and suicide.

With the feminist tidal wave in western society that is growing by the day, it is easy to observe and experience the impact this has on men and society as a whole. The impacts are deep and wide reaching such as the increase in male suicide rates amongst western men, the increased disdain amongst women for not being able to find a 'manly man', and this subreddit's quarantine, to name a few.

Regardless of this continued wave of negative feminist (yes there is positive feminism) ideologies being implemented amongst society, that same society continues to place expectations on men through social conventions that they must be either: socially dominant, a leader of men, own means to a source of income production, or be a good provider. Regardless, society continues to dictate that if you are unable to fulfill one of these 'covert agreements', you will be tossed in amongst the ever increasing percentile of betas in which neither positive feminism or positive masculinity wants you to be.

for men the societal pressures are truly burning from both ends. The feminist ideology want to suppress, contain, and essentially disrupt men from their hundreds of thousands of years of darwinian programming in order to control the 'gender narrative' (for lack of a better word). Burning on the other end of the wick, the covert feminist ideology, found in each and nearly every individual female, still expects to find a man who is alpha, who is masculine, who dominates, and who plays by his own rules.

The fact that we as men have to deal with this feminist contradiction is naturally creating more men/boys who are lost, weak, and clutching at feminized values as they are now becoming or already are societal values. It wouldn't be too hard to correlate that these same men/boys are the ones who are disproportionately contributing to the high suicide rates amongst young males due to their inability to align their values with their ancient programming. In essence, they are failing to discover their masculine self.

This is where TheRedPill comes in. This sub is many things to many people, but the one true purpose that we can all agree on is that this sub has all improved our lives for the better. throughout my time here I have read numerous stories about people almost killing themselves in the midst of depression, discovering this sub, and then changing themselves for the better. Users have lost weight, improved their health, found a girlfriend, lost their virginity, quit their shitty job and found a new one, discovered new hobbies, gained an understanding on how to make friends, the list goes on and on and on.

Men from all around the world use this sub to share ideas and learn about how to become a better man than they previously were. They use this sub to improve and become better versions of themselves through positive masculinity. You WILL become a failure as a man if you do not discover positive masculinity. It has never been more important to discover positive masculinity in the timeline of man due to the fact that it has never been so hard to discover our purpose as men.

If Reddit chooses to continue to suppress or even remove a subreddit that enriches the lives of so many users and the people we go on to positively impact in our daily lives, Reddit will not only fail us along with the helplessly lost and suicidal males yet to discover themselves, but also women who want positively masculine men, and therefore collective society.


[–]huhub 17 points18 points  (1 child)

As we move into a feminist society

I doubt that as many signs/examples exist of the moving to the right. More and more people are sick of leftists and express their feeling through elections. You can clearly see The Donald, Ms. May, more "centristic" president Macron in France, growing right parties in the Eastern Europe. Someday we may see something like that in Swedistan too.

Frankly, I was really scared that Western countries move too much to the left and the swing of the pendulum could push us all closer to something like Mr. Fancy Mustache, but it seems to be less dramatic.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You sound like a pussy ass faggot tbh. Hitler like figure would be good for us all. Why? It would kick some discpline into the lives of society, get rid of degenerates plaguing society, solve crime and re energize the population from its current state of disgusting lethargic apathy.

[–]DareyFathom 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Reddit and other MSM formats don't know or care about the long term negative consequences of the eradication of masculinity. To the intolerant left, all forms of masculinity are "toxic." And the more men that subscribe to the nihilistic hedonism of "enjoying the decline" is further empowering the enemy.

[–]RedPlanetMan 6 points7 points  (2 children)

the more men that subscribe to the nihilistic hedonism of "enjoying the decline" is further empowering the enemy.

Agreed, absolutely. I honestly think the only thing left to do for us now is, in mass, to boycott the current SMP and its dynamics, creating something completely different and real that empowers all the people who have not been on the vanguard of the CC and the like.

I mean, there are so many beautiful women out in the world, but because men in general keep acting like thirsty pre-teen boys after their special HB unicorns, we have to continue playing the game or else get left behind in the genetic arms race.

If women saw that all, or at least most, men of quality refused to play the game as it is currently set, they would opt out too, or else knowingly settle for the thirsty pseduo-alphas. However, this seems extremely unlikely given how many young men absolutely need that validation from women and their peers for bagging those women.

My solution: Personally opting out of much of what is encouraged from PUA and MGTOW and TRP in favor of a more whole understanding between the 3. I mean to say that its possible to learn everything we need from these 3 communities, for example, in order to have an edge, and then to refuse to play that game, instead creating a personal, more intimate game that is real and genuine.

I have no idea what it would take, other than an all out war, for most men to snap out of the hypnosis that culture has placed on us, either to seek money or women, or both.

So to sum it up, just cause most a neighbors enjoy sitting in a burning vehicle slowly rolling down a hill, it does not mean we should be jumping on board.

[–]1New_Guard 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My solution: Personally opting out of much of what is encouraged >from PUA and MGTOW and TRP in favor of a more whole >understanding between the 3. I mean to say that its possible to >learn everything we need from these 3 communities, for example, in >order to have an edge, and then to refuse to play that game, instead >creating a personal, more intimate game that is real and genuine.

Excellent. This is my strategy too. And I'm sure it was (effectively) the strategy of many of the traditional men of the 50's that are hearkened back to so often on here.

[–]Odglaf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The enemy? Is that what you call someone shooting at their own feet? That's prime entertainment.

Go get some popcorn, there is still plenty of room still. I sure as hell won't be sharing mine.

[–]bemore_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This sub, the red pill, is more like a slap in the face or a freezing cold shower. What brings men here is not their lack of positive masculinity, that's fairly straight forward to develop. It's their experiences with "toxic femininity". Masculinity often manifests in the physical, it's in action - it goes outwards. Femininity is the opposite, so if you can imagine everything a woman does is physiological, that's what they do with each other, that's what they do to men. So all of this is straight forward. You go outwards and you learn to handle what's coming inwards

We don't need reddit or to pander to their requirements. The internet is bigger than reddit. Information can't be hidden from a man's awareness in this day and age. If you want to help, help with that other trp site, it's where we will be taking the knowledge soon enough.

Tl;dr reddit aint shit. This is bigger than reddit

[–]NikolaGeorgiev 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, if the Western civilization do not do it, there are other types of societies that are very masculine and fully able to take over in some time. What we see now is just the beginning.

[–]_be_happy_ 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Public forum such as reddit should not be controlled by non-TRP members. Shit like this will always happen, as you will get white knights and feminazis trying to shut the community down.

I think what is happening is good wake up call: you have to control the meeting place to be fully free to discuss what you want.

Switching to TRP.RED is good way of ensuring no one can block the community.
Additionally, later if the hosting provider will try to block, there is always an option to set up TOR based website, then if this fails just go fully decentralised.

[–]NikolaGeorgiev 11 points12 points  (0 children)

White knights are to feminazism what useful idiots are to socialism.

[–]Metallurg2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A Holochain decentralized hosting would help

[–]JeeBO 2 points3 points  (3 children)

What's an example of a positive feminism?

[–]Dartleather[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My definitions:

Positive masculinity - empowering men that doesn't come with the detrimental effect to women. e.g. being a fucking man and being the best man you can be, regardless of other peoples influences. Examples of positive masculinity - social dominance, typical alpha male traits.

Extreme masculinity - masculinity that comes with the strong detrimental effect to women. Examples of this are societies that oppress women - e.g. most middle eastern countries where women have little rights. Also the destruction of womens rights as they currently stand in western society, misogyny

Positive feminism - empowering women to improve themselves that doesn't come with the detrimental effect to men and masculinity. e.g. being a fucking woman and being the best woman you can be regardless of other peoples influences. Examples of positive femininity - nurturing, caring, educating, letting others know their boundaries.

Extreme feminism - femininity that comes with the detrimental effect to men. Examples of this are the destruction of mens rights and culture as they currently stand e.g. destroying this sub, 'gender pay inequality', misandry, pushing to be more like men but without the responsibility (not having to be drafted).

Women in general are doing great at positive feminism. It's extreme feminism that is creating PC bullshit, changing societal values, and causing men to be more feminine than masculine.

[–]JamzeNeu 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Women are gentle and caring by nature, which is a feminine quality, necessary for rising kids, but due to modern day feminism, women are trying to compete with men, and are trying to be more masculine,and cultivating masculine qualities in them, and chasing power and status like men, by doing this they are shedding off their femininity. If there's no femininity in a woman, a man doesn't need her,now only thing she is good for ,is sex, not anything else.

Positive feminism is when women embrace their inner self and their femininity, which ultimately gives them true contentment. Instead of trying to be men.

[–]lugrulo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Generally it is when women embrace their femininity.

Basically when they are a “good girl”.

The problem with most men is they want the good girl, but don’t do their part to be a man.

Negative feminism is the world balancing out, and a result of men not being men.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 17 points18 points  (23 children)

There is no such thing as positive Feminism. How about you punch yourself in the dick for being male feminist? Punch yourself in the dick again because your posting your Feminists wordsalad to the antifeminst Red Pill.

My definition of positive masculinity is watching a male Feminist punch himself in the dick.

[–]TrouzzzerSnake 7 points8 points  (4 children)

That's a bummer attitude dude.

Who do you think nurtured children while the men were away providing...?

To not think that there can be positive feminism is just... dumb

Edit: Swype grammar correction

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Positive Masculinity Brings the Negative Feminine to balance.

[–]universalabundance1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

GLO doesn't understand what positive masculinity and femininity is.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Islam proves that Feminism isn't required for women to nurture children. Islam is antifeminst.

[–]TrouzzzerSnake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

ya and they blow themselves up all the time

hurray for Islam?

I mean... Islam's just the best, right!? Might as well adopt Red Pill game strategy for minors while yer at it

/END SARCASM

[–]Dartleather[S] 10 points11 points  (5 children)

It's unfortunate that you only see in black and white.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I also see in Asian Mexican and that other ethnicity nobody is allowed to mention.

[–]universalabundance1 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I see someone who tries too hard to be funny.

[–]1Ill_Will7 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Don't try to argue with GLO, you will lose

[–]universalabundance1 1 point2 points  (11 children)

There is no such thing as positive Feminism. How about you punch yourself in the dick for being male feminist? Punch yourself in the dick again because your posting your Feminists wordsalad to the antifeminst Red Pill.

My definition of positive masculinity is watching a male Feminist punch himself in the dick.

If reddit wanted to find reasons why to quarantine/ban this subreddit one of the best place to go would be your post history, GLO. People like you make the rest of us(who want to be the best man we can be) look bad. Real men, strong men don't go around spreading hate like you do. You might look like a strong, muscular man on the outside, but deep inside you're just a weak boy who hasn't worked out his personal problems. You're probably one of the best assets reddit has when they want to bring us down. Grow up, kid.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil -1 points0 points  (9 children)

Hai guis I'm a cucktard who has internalized the values of the dominant ideology. Here I am criticizing the leader of a dissident community for not confirming to the ruling ideology despite the fact that:

The whole point of Red Pill is to reject the dominant ideology

[–]universalabundance1 2 points3 points  (8 children)

I reject the mainstream ideology, always have. You don't know anything about me. You're just trying to make me look bad and avoid addressing my points.

You're not a real leader of men. Don't make me fucking laugh.

Hai guis I'm a cucktard who has internalized the values of the dominant ideology. Here I am criticizing the leader of a dissident community for not confirming to the ruling ideology despite the fact that:

The whole point of Red Pill is to reject the dominant ideology

This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Don't try your strawman tactics on me.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 2 points3 points  (4 children)

You don't know me is the traditional rebuttal of the inner city black woman. What kind of acrilics do you have Latoya?

[–]universalabundance1 9 points10 points  (3 children)

You don't know me is the traditional rebuttal of the inner city black woman. What kind of acrilics do you have Latoya?

Yet again, a statement that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, you're just using another strawman tactic to try to make me look bad and avoid addressing my points.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil -1 points0 points  (2 children)

It has a lot to do with you because you argue like a black woman

[–]universalabundance1 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'm sure it does, to someone like you, a "leader" who has a post history showing he has nothing better to do than to have bullshit arguments online everyday.

You know what? Come to think of it...I think this black woman you keep referring to...Is it how you feel on the inside? I think it makes perfect sense that deep inside you can relate to the anger some black women might feel and you're just acting out...You're projecting the angry black woman you have inside you!

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

You are attempting to retrofit your reaction into a bloop world. The bloop world cannot be changed. You need to get yourself out of it.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Real men, strong men don't go around spreading hate like you do

So Ghenghis Khan wasn't a real man?

I'm curious what he would have to say about that.

[–]Tricklevent 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the new extreme 4th/5th? wave feminism seems to be using toxic Masculinity as a catch all for any trait they don't like, it would be more clear to label this as toxic humanity though because what they're talking about is present in either gender. its when it enters the perceived extremes they attach it to our gender. Sadly those extremes and their definitions of severity are completely nebulous and therefore only mean anything to the person crying about them.

so if your worried your not falling into the right category with however masculine you think you are or otherwise, please don't sweat it too much. or at all. its their issue.

just try your best not to actually hurt anyone who doesn't deserve it.

[–]tempolaca 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As we move into a feminist society

No, the left and the feminists are incredibly visible, and dominate social network because only politically-correct ideas gets voted up (voting of posts and tweets are not anonymous).

But the vast majority is still right and in fact this movement is getting hated, even if it's winning some laws and rights. In fact, I believe this will cause a polarization of the society, and the right will become even more extreme-right. This won't be good.

[–]sebastianconcept 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We need to just move platform to one that this community can keep ideologically filtered out of SJW in any influence/moderating role.

They do it all the time for censoring dissenting “narratives” some reciprocation is needed.

[–]Hyper_Sonik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let's all admit...this sub isn't the same as it was when it first started out. Yet all I hear from mainstream hipsters is "I'm redpilled". It's like they think they ARE us without going through the experiences. It's an insult.

[–]Odglaf -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Nobody owes you squat. Specially not an online website. We are NOT your brothers.

But...but... MUH MEN'S SOCIETAL PRESSURES!Hear that? NOBODY cares.

Positive masculinity this masculinity that... FUCK OFF. Be toxic, be fucking POISON. Or don't . Whatever that means anyways. I wonder who gets to invent and define these new words...

Go lift until that soy wears off. Maybe then you can DO and not TALK change.