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Blue Pill ExampleThe "Other" Guy (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by DrBarnabyJonesJr

Hi Guys,

I was having a conversation with a guy I know concerning his suspicions of his wife cheating. His wife and I work together and she does have a reputation for fucking around in the workplace. We work for a major hospital in our city and rumors tend to spread like wildfire in this environment. Oftentimes she will openly boasts to her friends, often within earshot of others in the department, about her escapades with certain co-workers.

I've spent some time around this particular couple outside of work as the guy is an acquaintance. He's rather rough around the edges, very assertive in his dealings with other men, was raised in a pretty tough environment, and is a tradesman. On the exterior, he would appear to be Red Pill by the standards around here. However, the more time I've spent around him and his wife, the more I see that when it comes to his woman he's a complete pusscake.

There have been instances where she disrespects him and demeans him in front of others and even jokingly drops hints that she may be fucking around. This usually happens after we've all had a few drinks. This behavior goes unchecked. The times that I have been around to witness this I cringe internally, because I know there's some truth to it.

So, a few new nights ago him and I were outside a bar talking and he brings up a male co-worker of mine that has been calling his wife's phone at odd hours. He asks me if I've seen any interaction between the two and I told him I haven't. Even if I did, with him only being an acquaintance, I don't feel like it's my place to disclose such information. Not to mention, it would cause friction in my work environment.

He continues on his rant of how he's irritated with the guy calling his wife and how he's considering coming to our job to confront the him face to face. He asks my opinion, and I tell him that confronting the guy in this situation is not the right course of action. I leave it at that. If he can't see that his wife allows this behavior from our co-workers, who am I to show him?

Fellas, whenever you suspect your wife or LTR of cheating, you NEVER go after the other guy. The other guy owes you no loyalty. It's your woman who ideally should be giving you undying loyalty. If you have suspicions, you confront your woman. If you feel that another man is getting too close to the woman you're with, remember that he can only get as close as she allows him to.

I know that we're all human and that if your frame isn't solid, a cheating woman can conjure up some very strong feelings. However, for your sake, you have to be willing to walk away from it all. Even if the other guy happens to be a close friend or family member, you'd be best served by walking away. Having a fit of rage in this situation will not get you anywhere. You'll be viewed as weak, jealous, and unable to control your emotions. Confronting another man could also result in injury, loss of life, and possible jail time. No pussy on the face of this earth is worth that, especially when you can get it for little or no cost at all.


[–]domable19 312 points313 points  (26 children)

Lmao, this a long way of saying don't hate the player, hate the game then i completely agree. The guy doesn't owe you loyalty, your ltr/wife does.

[–]DrBarnabyJonesJr[S] 86 points87 points  (0 children)

It was, but you still have a lot of guys who don't truly understand "the game" and can't see it for what it is. Just trying to help someone! LOL!

[–]Fulp_Piction 20 points21 points  (1 child)

The thing is they don't owe you anything, it's up to you to be someone she's afraid to lose. It's not loyalty at all, it's fear.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that's why it's said that love is war. and 'all is fair in love and war'.

[–]Scrub_TLC 7 points8 points  (17 children)

Loyalty no, but maybe reverence... Some dudes don't realize it's a bad idea to fuck another dude's thot, when said thot is with a dude literally twice your mass. Some good ways to help them remember tho...

I would not know anything about that though, speaking strictly in theory...

[–]Chaddeus_Rex -1 points0 points  (11 children)

it's a bad idea to fuck another dude's thot, when said thot is with a dude literally twice your mass. Some good ways to help them remember tho...

nah. i've seen smaller dudes that are more aggressive and dangerous than big guys. i'd fuck a bigger dudes gf in a heartbeat. if he wants to fight, he'll have to kill me because i won't back down.

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Eventually, you'll get it. There's always somebody badder.

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    Im 6'2. Is that considered short nowadays?

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                [–]domable19 25 points26 points  (0 children)

                It depends, you can increase your chances of her being loyal by having your shit together, frame, game, lifting, money, personality, sauce. Also, all women are different. Some are more hypergamous than others. Just like all guys are different.

                [–]Westwood_1 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                I've seen women that are incredibly loyal. Fewer and fewer with each generation, though (and it's hard to tell – especially at the outset of a relationship – which are which).

                [–]Carbuncl3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                I'ts been my experience that the stronger your frame, the more things your partner can create from it from which can you benefit. Sometimes you don't need to verbally speak about issues, simply personifying what you want to see in her is enough for her to change (The idea of wising up, uncovering truth etc.). To do this I had to be okay with giving up everything.

                [–]1RationalDoc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Hehe kinda is. From a logical point the other guy didn’t get into a commitment with someone else, she did. So he kinda is blame free imo.

                [–]zealanderx 197 points198 points  (69 children)

                Being "the other guy" fucked me up more than anything in my sexual escapades.

                Back when I was into the casual sex and validation seeking through n-count accumulation of beautiful women... I'd every so now and then bump into "taken" women.

                I can't count on one hand how many times I've been "the other guy." At the time, I did it as a little science experiment. I think cheating is just horrific in committed relationships. I wanted to know the women who did it. Why they did it. Can I find a pattern?

                Anyways, it really fucked me up because since I have high standards with women, all the women I'd enable cheating were otherwise seemingly high quality women. I think I can see some patters, a certain bit of mischievous and unruliness in a women.

                To me men, a HUGE red flag is when a woman's mouth or hands gets LOOSE when she's with friends and alcohol. She'll let some shit slide and really test you. This is a woman who fucks around. This is the biggest indicator I've seen.

                Anyways, what really fucked with me is the realization that you can never really know anyone or what they are capable of.

                The really fucked up part is just realizing that when an individual (both men and women) overwhelming feel like they can take a risk without potential to get caught- shit happens.

                Men, from my studies I can say another thing... if you are getting married- your woman becomes %8,500 more likely to cheat in the months and weeks leading up to the wedding. In her mind, it's her "last chance" to fuck around. Little does this woman also know is she won't even hang on to this faithfulness after marriage and she becomes a serial cheater.

                It's bad out there men.

                RP in my mind isn't to be MGTOW and quit the game because this is life- or even stay single, unmarried... It's becoming self aware and strong enough to combat this reality.

                [–]Ozymanberg 37 points38 points  (21 children)

                Shiiit son. I'd be interested in hearing specific stories about this, though. Do this women normally club around or are they fucking around on their own social circle?

                I'm really fascinated by all of this, if I'm being honest. You have no idea what I would give to be able to access the Whatsapp/Snapchat of your average girl. Not to stalk or anything but the dynamics behind this whole thing fascinates me on a genuine level and I would love to know what skeletons your typical "nice girl" hides in her closet.

                [–]22Luika 15 points16 points  (10 children)

                I would love an in depth post about this kind of shit.

                [–]Blackhawk2479 28 points29 points  (4 children)

                I’m toying with one; fucked a girl with a BF of 5 years behind his back for over 12 months. Met her through her coworker (a close friend of mine at the time) who she also fucked a couple of times before branch-swinging to me.

                Spoiler alert: I LTR’d her for 6 years, then her original BF started sniffing around again and she wasn’t knocking him back so I showed her the door. They’re married with kids now.

                [–]jinglebells89 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                WOW - and that's all the Red Pill I can take for today!

                [–]uebermacht 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                Holy fuck!
                That 6 years man.. :(

                [–]Blackhawk2479 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                Right? I’d do things differently now obviously, but I did take her best years (21-27) at least.

                Learned a lot in that part of my life.

                [–]BewareTheOldMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                "...I did take her best years (21-27)…"

                You took nothing. She offered that time period of her own volition.

                [–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 6 points7 points  (4 children)

                Somebody once wrote a book about what he discovered after putting keyloggers on some girls computers.

                https://archive.fo/3exHd

                https://archive.fo/CPSPe

                [–]1Yakatonker 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                Data is worth a fortune, especially this variety. Its a shame there hasn't been a tinder data dump. It would really shine a light on female hypergamy.

                [–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                The OKCupid blog was gold back in the day. Before they got bought out by match.com . The feminists got some pages taken down. They did a book too.

                I also went through the Ashley Madison fata when it got hacked and looked for neighbours and celebs. Interesting stuff

                [–]eaazzy_13 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                What was he okcupid blog if you don’t mind me asking? Sounds like fascinating stuff.

                [–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                I just had a look around. Nearly impossible to find those posts. Some got deleted, and the blog got moved to medium. They used to get a lot of discussion on r / seduction in 2010 and 2011. They aren't coming up in reddit search though. They were so insightful. I thought the blog shut down after their acquisition by match but apparently that was a coincidence https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8282004

                If you use wayback machine to view blog.okcupid.com you might find them.

                They did analysis on stuff like racial preferences by race. Income preferences by age (women dont care at all before 23, and care massively after that). Best angles of photos, types of lenses and whether to look into or away from the camera. Which messages did and didnt work. This came from that blog: https://i.imgur.com/goBT7rn.png

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                  [–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 50 points51 points  (5 children)

                  Ah, the old, "if it wasn't me, it would be somebody else."

                  Except, you were the guys "friend." And you betrayed him. He wouldn't have expected a stranger to owe him any loyalty. He might have expected some respect even from an acquaintance, since much cheating happens under false pretenses, where the woman lies about being single.

                  I bet the guy would be doubly hurt if he found out, that she was unfaithful, but also that you opportunistically took advantage of the situation, and then came up with a self-serving rationalization to justify it to yourself so you could enjoy the experience while mitigating the guilt a more moral person might feel.

                  So yeah, don't pretend like you're not part of the problem and that it's all her fault. If all guys had morals, the sluts wouldn't be able to slut; they'd all have to masturbate like pimply teenage boys.

                  But I guess we don't live in that world. Most men are dogs because it is a sound reproduction strategy to be sly, sneaky, cad... the kind that would suck his brother's jizz out of his sister-in-law's pussy just so he could create one more bastard to be brought into the world.

                  [–]Maple_Gunman 13 points14 points  (0 children)

                  Not a reply to you in particular, just wanted to add a few things.

                  At the end of the day you owe it to yourself not to be a fuck boy. Doesn’t matter who comes onto who, if you can’t have the respect or discipline to say no to a married woman, you’re just as bad as they are. Especially if it’s a friend, I can’t imagine the guilt I’d feel if I broke bro code with a person who trusted me.

                  Even if it doesn’t register on your moral barometer, there’s a million people in the world who are actively against OP’s advice in confronting the other guy.

                  My old man always said, “Never lend out your car or your woman. They’re guaranteed to either wreck it or throw a rod in it.”

                  [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                  This is a brilliant response. We create sneaky sluts because we are sneaky man whores. Quite true...and no one is innocent.

                  [–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Well, it's one thing to mess around with a girl if you've never met the guy. That's certainly nothing to brag about, IMO. But to mess around with the girl of a guy you call a friend? I don't normally bother shaming people, but I felt in this case, that the guy should feel ashamed, not because I was trying to make him feel bad just to punish him, but I really want him to reconsider his behavior, because that rationale is pure poison. If all men behaved honorably, or even just most men, it would set a better example. Just because you have power to do a thing, doesn't mean you should.

                  [–]Orbiter45 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                  If all guys had morals, the sluts wouldn't be able to slut; they'd all have to masturbate like pimply teenage boys.

                  Which is an important point. Female sexual power is based on male weakness. "American Pie Culture," tells us we aren't men, unless we are having sex, and the more sex, the more manly or dominate we are. By playing this game, we establish women as the judges of our manhood. We give them the power.

                  How ever, women need our attention, to boost their self-esteem. They need our presence to make them feel safe. They need injections of our man-juice, for their own mental health.

                  If we where to truly become the self assured, best version of our self, the power of validation would reverse polarity. But we tend to go the easy rout. Instead of working and training hard to be our best self, we seek the their validation.

                  [–]TheRepairer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  This is exactly my thinking! Whenever I'm reading a post here I'm so curious of the people in the story, and I would love to chat with them face to face.

                  [–]SimpleJacked 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Look through your plates' phones if you're really curious. It's eye opening. Women very specifically adapt their language and actions based on who they are talking to. The everyday girl you see at school or work is very different to how she snaps and texts 1on1 her husband, friends, ltrs, orbiters, chad etc.

                  Your plate sends you a nude every other month? She is sending 5 a day to her ex Chad or that new sugar daddy that won't meet her. She is calling other men boo, daddy, and sexy. She does all of this because it's private.

                  Women will do almost anything if there is, a reasonable belief of no social backlash, and somebody (usually a man) leads them into it.

                  Your girl may be more chaste than the average slut but AWALT because it only depends on how cocks are currently approaching her.

                  [–]Ozymanberg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Look through your plates' phones if you're really curious

                  I'm very turned off by that, though. If she catches me glimpsing that will not look good no matter what and I kinda wanna keep fucking em lol plus, I really don't like thinking about this shit when I'm with a chick cause it just puts me in my head and ruins the experience for me, and to be fair, hers as well.

                  However, let's just say I'd hypothetically be willing to learn some pointers on how to do this discreetly, especially if they've got their phones in their hand all the time... You know. For research purposes.

                  [–]voxiqs 108 points109 points  (13 children)

                  Fucked a girl for months while she dated her boyfriend. Had her tits hanging out under the covers texting her boyfriend when an hour prior she was choking on my dick gargling it up. Turned her location off on her phone, while her bf would be crying and texting her I’d be caveman blasting her up the ass.

                  Didn’t fuck me up at all but this dude tried to stay with her even though in his gut he knew. She would literally tell me he can’t do any better than her.

                  She was a two faced cunt, prior to that I thought she was really upstanding with moral values.

                  Overtime I realized small things that gives these whores away but every now and then find a plate that tries to make me a plate with a bf.

                  As someone with morals, I don’t know how the fuck these people live with themselves. That whole experience really ducked with my head bad and I felt like a real piece of shit for awhile. Didn’t bother her any.

                  [–]zealanderx 63 points64 points  (5 children)

                  ’t know how the fuck these people live with themselves. That whole experience really ducked with my head bad and

                  Yes,

                  Your experience is very similar to mine. A number of guys have "known" this goes down in there gut. So men, when your gut is saying something to you. You listen. I do think because I have been there enough that I can "pick up" on signals of the women prone to this although I don't think I can articulate it over this medium. It's instinct now.

                  I did get fucked up though. Because I fucked around in social circle. But also others... I mean, the times I have been the other guy I can almost count on two hands. It's fucked.

                  I have seen women justify this "I am the best he can get" a number of times. It's so fucked. And boys, this is why "dread" game is really critical. And I hate that term because it can be interpreted as really bad. At this point, fair is fucking fair. It's only prudent to display your options. I don't really use threats or passive aggressiveness or "dread" game. I just make it very clear to the women I am dating that it'd be reaaalllly easy for me to a pull a woman as hot or hotter than her. You just leave the implication there- this is really easy when you can just take her out to bar scenes or whatever and natural is as natural does.

                  [–]voxiqs 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                  Point on, this is advice sometimes you don’t pickup until you’ve experienced it first hand. Hopefully someone reading this can identify it happening.

                  [–]Chaddeus_Rex 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                  I have seen women justify this "I am the best he can get" a number of times.

                  Reminds me of this story. This shit is as old as time.

                  [–]DJZoonie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Goddamn... great story but it just makes me so fuckin uncomfortable

                  [–]Chaddeus_Rex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  yeah man. i feel you. but this was written back in the 1920's. so its been the case for a long time.

                  be like macomber was at the end of his life every day and you'll do fine. his main problem was that he couldn't walk away. be able to walk away always

                  [–]Carbuncl3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  I guess dating up for women is apparently super important to make them loyal, if they have any meaningful values...

                  [–]xGratowlx 12 points13 points  (5 children)

                  What was her background? What made you think she had upstanding morals and not a two faced cunt?

                  [–]voxiqs 15 points16 points  (3 children)

                  I didn’t know her she was quiet and always said the opposite of what she wanted. She was trying to swing branches on betas and fuck alphas. Cunt almost broke me down until we ended it. I had no clue she would fuck me before breaking up with her bf. I thought it would be a clean break and swing.

                  [–]xGratowlx 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  Did you tell the guy? I feel like I'd be tempted to let him know what's going on. Of course, I can easily see that going south.

                  [–]voxiqs 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  Hell no, I don’t have a death wish

                  Woman like that are insanely destructive to the men around them. They are parasites, looking to torture, break and kill them. I felt kind of bad, she was molested passed out drunk once and had a boyfriend who used to get extremely rough with her, I wouldn’t be surprised if he raped her based on what she told me. She’s fucked up for life, I thought I could save her but you can’t ever save them. It’s just crazy how evil some people can be and they got off on it.

                  [–]xGratowlx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Damn. As suspected, it sounds like you can only keep silent and hope for the best then.

                  [–]fridgefucker12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  She probably played good girl game

                  [–]Heizenbrg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I cheated with multiple women recently. I didn't enjoy it, and I try not to think about what I did.
                  It's that simple.

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                    [–]Sumshot 9 points10 points  (3 children)

                    To me men, a HUGE red flag is when a woman's mouth or hands gets LOOSE when she's with friends and alcohol.

                    Can you give some examples of what you mean? I suppose you are not talking about something like that she confesses some political incorrect stuff but rather about her environment like gossip?

                    [–]zealanderx 29 points30 points  (2 children)

                    It would be too hard to really explain without referencing a few well written and long stories... which I can't do.

                    In the short, all are sexual in nature... hands and words. When booze is an enabler and excuse to become unruly. Or use crass unchecked language. The thing is these women are hot, they know that they are hot... and the really like to put that on display when tipsy. They'll shit talk other women who aren't as hot. They're bad bitches. They don't give a fuck.

                    This woman will have a boyfriend but she will go on and on and on about how Mr. X of this movie is SoSOso hot or how this is so impressive or... She doesn't give a shit that her boyfriend is standing right there in the circle because she's talking with her girls, drinking her little wine glass and because he's a celebrity and thus not a real opportuniy. All fun and games. She'll just get very playful and start wrestling around with me or men playing grab ass. Just being overly flirtatious.

                    This is just an indicator because I've also had the most stone wall, unemotional woman cheat. It's just a jungle.

                    Wall of text means, AWALT.

                    [–]31ar 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                    It's actually really easy to summarize - though hard for people to understand without examples (like you've provided).

                    Summary : Disrespect. When she's drunk, the lack of respect she has for her man comes to the surface.

                    [–]zealanderx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    Yes, you did summarize it quickly and concisely. Like verbal judo.

                    I agree that "disrespect" to summarize in a word is the bottom line and lowest common denominator to indicate what we are speaking of.

                    [–]metallicdrama 8 points9 points  (10 children)

                    This. I used to fuck an older married broad. Her husband would be out of town for the weekend to work and I would be dumping loads in all her holes treating her like the pig that she was.

                    Then she once introduced me to him at the bar we frequented that I originally met her at when they went randomly went together, which never happened, as some random acquaintance she barely knew and that’s when I realized how sick women can really be.

                    I was cool with it when it was just me fucking. Some dude I-had-never-met-before’s wife, because I figured he sucked in bed or wasn’t there emotionally or whatever BS. But then t became a sick game.

                    Own pussy or Pussy owns you.

                    [–]Nergaal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    RP in my mind isn't to be MGTOW and quit the game because this is life- or even stay single, unmarried... It's becoming self aware and strong enough to combat this reality.

                    This needs to be said more often

                    [–]BewareTheOldMan 71 points72 points  (12 children)

                    Bottom line - dude can't control his wife. More importantly...he shouldn't have to control or mate-guard his spouse. Deflecting advances and interest from other men is his wife's responsibility. If a woman is inviting interest and attention from other men, it's a certainty that she has zero respect for her husband. It's one of the base reasons women "allow" these situations and is used as rationalization/justification for infidelity.

                    The "other man" is not the problem and direct confrontation has its own set of unintended consequences. Dude needs to hard-check his wife first and follow up with the other man as a last resort. Even then, the way some men respond to confrontation from a woman's husband could possibly result in tragic and fatal outcome. For some women they're fine if it plays out that way.

                    In my current and past relationships I have terms, conditions, standards, and requirements in which a woman either accepts them...or not. On acceptance there are three basic rules which I refer to as the Three Ds - NO Disloyalty, NO Disrespect, or NO Disruption to my life. This man's wife is in violation of all three and any self-respecting, masculine man of note would hardcore divorce this ridiculous slut of a wife without remorse or hesitation.

                    This is what Blue Pill/Social Conditioning allows and reinforces - it blurs the ability for a man to see his cheating whore of a wife as the real problem. Even worse - society and the female imperative/hivemind will credit him as being the catalyst for his wife's infidelity in the first place.

                    [–]dingleburry_joe 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                    I like the three D's, gonna use that from now on

                    [–]Ozymanberg 4 points5 points  (8 children)

                    Do you directly tell the women about the three D's before you get into an LTR or how do you approach this?

                    [–]BewareTheOldMan 27 points28 points  (4 children)

                    When I was more active in dating I approached informing women of the 3Ds (my basic relationship rules) in the course of conversation as it generally came up in discussion for the bottom line reasons for divorcing my ex-wife and for terminating any post-divorce relationships that didn't serve my best interests.

                    I'm uncertain as to whether or not my ex-wife was disloyal (unfaithful), but she was in direct violation of the other two because she demonstrated disrespect by failing to fulfill her wife and mother duties to my expectations and standards...which led to basic disruption to my life.

                    The ex-wife's lack of effort slowed me down in moving forward in my career both during the marriage and post-divorce. I noticed this by virtue of a colleague who started on more or less the same career path and years later he was much further along based on having a very supportive, loyal, and respectful wife who was very dedicated to helping rear his 3 x sons to adulthood.

                    After that I developed a reasonable set of terms, conditions, standards, and requirements for future relationships - notably these were the SAME terms, conditions, standards, and requirements I had for myself. You have to BE the person you're looking for in a relationship...a point that is lost on many women.

                    I developed the 3D Rule because...alliteration - and it's very easy to remember and relay to women. I submit ANYTHING that a woman does wrong or any action that ruins a great relationship will fall in at least ONE or ALL THREE of those categories.

                    Hell - I was just talking to my lady last week about some basic information she could pass on to some of her girlfriends about a man's mindset. I reinforced the base rules of relationship terms, conditions, standards, and requirements in addition to the 3Ds.

                    She is the ONLY woman to fully understand, internalize, and follow these basic concepts. For us this results in my best relationship ever and to date, but most importantly a mutually beneficial and reciprocal relationship. We are both very happy. I tell her all the time..."men are not that complex and our rules for a happy relationship are relatively easy to abide."

                    It's really not that hard - which is why most women give me the dazed and confused look when I parrot the same concept in discussion on male-female interpersonal relationships. The issue I find is that most women have no real interest in fulfilling their portion of the relationship but expect "Mr. Wonderful" to carry the heavy load.

                    On another note, I also relay to women these same rules are useful to them as well...that is - assuming they are in fact a Good, High Value Woman worthy of having a Good, High Value Man in their life.

                    I know TRP advocates Spinning Plates, but I'm older and have mostly been an LTR type-guy. Plus, as you age Spinning Plates is fun...until it isn't.

                    Either way - I've developed this format and met with great success to date - especially with my current LTR.

                    [–]Ozymanberg 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    Quality post here, my friend. I wouldn't complain if you made a post really digging deep at this, but you do whatever the hell you want lol thanks for this! Never really saw it this way.

                    [–]BewareTheOldMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    Thanks - I'm glad it's helpful.

                    [–]Carbuncl3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Damn, your post is refreshing to read. I follow similar guidelines as well with my LTR, just not as articulated. Arguments for us are turn into discussions. Unity is a hell of a thing.

                    [–]22Luika 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                    If you have to say it to them you already have a problem.

                    [–]Ozymanberg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    That's what I thought, but the way you worded your post I thought there might be a possibility you told them outright.

                    [–]green_tea_bag 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    NO, you just internalize them for yourself and respond accordingly.

                    [–]green_tea_bag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    3D's, that is a great rule and a great way to avoid the bullshit described in this post. Should never go that far, and the disrespect is a dead giveaway and a deal breaker regardless of the validity of the joking.

                    [–]newhorizon56 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    That’s an incredible motto to live by! Simple to interpret, Simple to enforce and simple to act.

                    [–]banthrow 35 points36 points  (6 children)

                    If you have suspicions, you confront your woman.

                    This wont work. If anything, only will show you as insecure. If she has another man I dont think there's nothing you can do about it.

                    [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                    Leaving is the only move at that point. If you think she disrespected you by cheating, wait until you take her back after she cheats. You may as well write "Home Sweet Home" on your buttocks and lie facedown on your doorstep.

                    [–]final_one 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    Ignoring the double negative in your sentence, I guess you are talking about the case when the girl is a plate. If she is your wife then isn't talking the first course of action?

                    [–]daniellederek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                    If she's a wife talking is the absolute last thing to do. If monogamy is important to you protect and hide assets first. Then in a years time call her out and do the swinging thing find some new holez to use and live a little before the divorce fight.

                    If your lucky enough to hold her while dropping your income level and pissing away assets on paper into hidden cash you'll do ok in divorce rape.

                    [–]metallicdrama 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                    If you’re trying to keep something intact, no matter how fake, for the sake of avoiding court or for the kids, you have to get caught fucking someone better and give absolute zero fucks about her possible response and never mention what you know.

                    But it has to be the catch where you’re not caught red-handed but she knows and it’s on her to confront you. She won’t. Women are so self-absorbed that she will be concerned with how her dog could ever get off the porch.

                    Then she’ll hamster about how you could possibly bang someone else let alone better and be “such an asshole”. But if she’s smart she won’t confront him because she’s guilty and will have to confront feeling bad possibly which she will just want to avoid. And if she does play absolute dread game. Because any confrontation is likely a power play.

                    It’s win-win for the man and lose-lose for the woman if you give zero fucks. But never out yourself for knowing her transgressions. She will turn it into how it’s our fault etc. keeping silent on it is more powerful because the chance you’ll call her out is worse for her than when you actually do bc of how hamsters work.

                    [–]Scrub_TLC 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    Or you just get proof and blow her out on her facebook in front of her family and friends (from a fake third account if need be) and watch her SMV and social value tank.

                    Then just own it on your FB and immediately (same day) mark your relationship as ended remove her from friends and be dating someone else. She'll look loose awful and worthless and you'll be the man who just took out the garbage and gave it the reverence that garbage deserves.

                    [–]metallicdrama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    If shit like that was commonplace I’d actually use FB. “So that other guy, is it serious or you wanna go out tomorrow” lol.

                    [–]p3n1x 33 points34 points  (0 children)

                    you NEVER go after the other guy

                    Unless kids are involved. A woman's need for adventure can compromise the safety of the children.

                    Beta or not, don't fuck with a man's kids. Desperate hopeless people will do anything. No need to die for used pussy.

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                    [–]metallicdrama 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    I’ve done it. A few times. It sucks. Never again. It’s a game and you’re just as big of a pawn as her actual man. No Pussy is worth the headaches that can ensue from some sick bitch’s game. Some will try to play you against each other. Some will fuck you only to get him to mateguard etc. fuck that noise. You’re not any less of a chump than her man unless you don’t know better yet.

                    My best friend was actually jumped by 5 dudes and had his ass kicked and was shot up with a paintball gun for fucking the one guy’s wife. Not worth it. And she fucked everybody. Hell even I fucked her but if you’re the other guy that happens to get caught or be in the wrong time/place, not worth it.

                    [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                    All the hot women are taken in some capacity. You’ll get slim pickings if that’s where you draw the line. That woman that appears single? She has a kid with some guy, she just doesnt mention him. It’s funny getting a womans instagram or number after cold approach or flirting and grinding and see them tilt their phone to hide their background pic of her and the nice guy looking bf.

                    [–]2CasaDeFranco 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    I wouldn't hamster it as being a grey line, we all know the line.

                    [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                    There is no line. If you’re not my friend and I think I can come out unscathed, Im gonna go for it.

                    [–]Torabor64 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                    First of all TRP doesn't encourage that behaviour, but why would we care anyway? It's the cheater who has a responsability to be loyal to their partner, not the dude she cheats with.

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                    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                    > Fellas, whenever you suspect your wife or LTR of cheating

                    "When there is doubt, there is no doubt."

                    -From, The Sayings of Chairman Zaitzev

                    [–]The_Chiselnator 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                    No man has the responsibility to keep your woman faithful to you or to help her keep her vows to you.

                    That's her job.

                    Every man (including your brother, father) would be interested in her breaking said vows.

                    Just da damn truff.

                    [–]kwesigabo 15 points16 points  (13 children)

                    It’s funny how some guys never notice when their significant others are fucking around 😅 I mean, come on!

                    [–]Ivetakenthepill 28 points29 points  (5 children)

                    Has to do with denial more than anything. It's totally obvious from an objective perspective but it's impossible to have that kind of clarity while your wife is dishing up daily blue pill cocktails with a dab a cyanide to keep you in check.

                    She's got full control over his emotional state right now, and she knows it. Very sad.

                    [–]metallicdrama 6 points7 points  (4 children)

                    Key is to not have emotions for women you fuck or marry. Only your grandmother, maybe your mother, def your children. As soon as you treat a woman like she’s your equal you’re less equal than her in both of your minds.

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                      [–]metallicdrama 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                      For your children and grandchildren. The main reason people married for most of history. Most modern social ills stem from one parent households and a lack of extended family. Most divorces are predicated upon people marrying for “happiness” and setting themselves up for major disappointment. People don’t realize that for most of human history people didn’t marry for all the bullshit reasons they do now which are fleeting illusions. Marriage was about supporting kids through two parents and the extended network of relatives and they didn’t kid themselves about it. Marriage is an important business decision and that’s why people fuck it up, because they treat it like opening a restaurant for a hobby.

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                        [–]metallicdrama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Who said there is an advantage? I didn’t. They were only mentioned because that was the main point of marriage. What is the advantage in not having children? Everything is a trade off. That’s why it’s important to be mindful of our choices in life. Make sure they’re the ones we want.

                        [–]blackswans042 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                        They don't see it not because they're blind, but because they closed their eyes.

                        [–]Listen_up_slapnuts 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                        I missed some super obvious signs. Hickie, staying out until the next day. I look back and feel like an idiot.

                        [–]blackswans042 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        No point in worrying or stressing about it now.

                        Harsh thing to accept but such is life

                        [–]Scrub_TLC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Dude, I got ripped off for a bunch of cash by a con-man. I look at it as a blessing many people in my life are in their 50s and 60s and still wear rose-colored glasses.

                        Look up the song 'I thank god for unanswered prayers' Sometime the shit that fucks you ends up a blessing in the long-term

                        [–]Hoodwink 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        If you pay attention to any dating material outside of TheRedPill when growing up - you have this idea that women are the angels and never cheat - and that's it's only men.

                        The entire culture and certain laws (divorce rape) is 'gynocentric' in terms of talking about experiences in terms of dating and marriage. Everything revolves around women (the protagonist in the narrative) with an assumption that 'this (all) women are good and pure'.

                        It can be really hard to break if you don't get some experience with shitty women. And even then, you need to really analyze behavior long-term to understand the where's, what's, who's, and why's

                        [–]metallicdrama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Cognitive dissonance and denial. They know. But as soon as they admit it to themselves they have to man up which they couldn’t do in the first place.

                        [–]jinglebells89 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                        My disillusionment and long stay currently in the anger phase is directly related to what OP talks about here. I am dumbfounded by a woman's ability to turn complete cold sociopath when she gets tingles for another guy. I mean the ability for women to think about the commitment she has made to her bf/husband, their kids, HER future, etc. is all thrown out the door.

                        Lots of guys on this forum have experienced this - months to years of good behavior with a woman who you click with. You hold down a strong frame, the sex is wild, she does almost %100 of the pursuing, she cooks dinner for you, tells her family about you. You MEET her family and introduce her to yours, etc. etc. etc. Then one day she completely flips. There is no negotiating with the mindset she is in. It's like negotiating with the joker from the dark knight. Nothing is sacred.

                        The way a woman can just throw it all away for some strange cock is beyond something I think I can wrap my head around. What is the point in even trying when you know EVERY woman is capable of this? I have literally thrown the dream out of falling in a love with a woman and starting a family because how can you ever trust one.

                        [–]Ozymanberg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I'm past the anger phase but every now and then the beast rises up and it's this type of shit that does it lel

                        Personally, what puts things in perspective for me is asking myself, "Would I get mad at a lion chasing a gazelle to eat it? Or a baby pissing himself?" Then why would I get mad at a woman following her biological drive? Maybe you already think this way but I'm venting here as well lol whenever a girl starts going ghost on me, I usually switch from "relationship mode" to almost a "scientist mode" where I literally just study her behaviour. You could call it a coping mechanism or whatever but why make yourself go through the pain if it's already expected, y'know?

                        [–]raka_defocus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                        I'll go after after both, unless the other guy didn't know there was an existing relationship. I won't let another man disrespect me in my home or relationship and I'll make sure there are visible consequences just in case anyone else thinks that it's ever a good idea to cross me. It's not about game,it's not about the woman, it's about being a fucking man. If you let someone fuck your girl and leave it unchecked, it's an invitation to be disrespected in a multitude of other ways.

                        [–]AussiecuntTRP 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                        It's a paradox. If the guy was man enough to confront his girlfriend and planned leave her if she was truely cheating on him, he almost never would be getting cheated on in the first place. The very reason she is cheating is the lack of power that he has over her. That is only what she is attracted to and what she tries to get by cheating.

                        [–]Scrub_TLC 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        It's a shit test she wants him to play the man and he won't. It's like a small animal that pokes the larger one to play with it. Or how a kid wrestles with their parent/older sibling they want to win but when they don't it makes them feel secure knowing there is someone stronger than them looking out for them. You can also compare it to when a kid feels emotionally out of control (too much sugar or smth) so they'll play poke the bear with their parent to get the parent to take control, it's a very secure feeling to be held or have someone take charge of the ambiguity.

                        I think mostly these women wish their man commanded their respect and would be happier if they did. Some of it is just fucked entitlement and narcism but I think most of it is a cry for help in a time when men have been shamed out of acting like men and a woman so desperately wants a MAN to be her counterpart!

                        [–]BewareTheOldMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        "...mostly these women wish their man commanded their respect and would be happier if they did."

                        That's a good point - as if it's the idea "a man should fight for the love and respect of his woman." Most of the time it's a simple matter of hard-checking a woman's behavior - making it clear in no uncertain terms that no form of disrespect is tolerated.

                        This is one of the excess problems of internalizing the concept of toxic masculinity. Too many men are so timid and afraid to upset the "little lady" they come off as weak and incapable of demanding and ensuring respect.

                        There's another side to this the idea of "testing" how far a man will allow a woman to push the boundaries of disrespect. Men sometimes behave this way to other men as well, but there's no two groups that love to see how far they can go by testing the limits of disrespect than women and children.

                        [–]squidjibo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                        If you were suspicious of her cheating, how would you approach it if you had no proof?

                        [–]ItzFizzy1 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                        a question in reply to this post, if you are in a LTR or a plate, what is the best way to shut down disrespect in a public place and or just the two of you?

                        [–]FimbleEnterprises 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        It's not procedural - well maybe it can be but it will vary by the setting and current context.

                        Instead of asking for a procedure, try placing your pride first!

                        That may result in a say nothing, push away from the table and walk out confidently. It may be that but prefaced with some words (that are delivered in your best low/man, or as I call it, "Dad voice") about how that is unacceptable and that you are leaving. Yada, yada, yada.

                        It isn't so much how you do it, it's that you're fucking willing to do it and that you in fact do, do it.

                        Stoicism is (as always) an absolute must - that much is procedural.

                        [–]BewareTheOldMan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        "What is the best way to shut down disrespect in a public place and or just the two of you?"

                        A technique is to hard-check disrespectful behavior right then and there/in the moment in addition to being prepared to walk away.

                        This does not mean abandon a woman to fend for herself in a conceivably dangerous situation. Arrange a cab/Uber to ensure safe arrival to her residence or similar action. Get her to a safe location, but there’s no need to be her whipping boy.

                        Your actions are two-fold as it reinforces boundaries and expectations for respectful treatment, but also reflects that you’re not an unfathomable jerk who unnecessarily endangers women.

                        There are men who might disagree, but I submit that in an LTR and assuming you care for the woman there’s no need to place your woman in a potentially dangerous situation.

                        For example - you’re both out having a great time and your lady decides "it’s cute" to flirt with other men in your presence. A response is to identify the moment/point of disrespect, and demand and ensure acknowledgement of unacceptable behavior. Failing acknowledgement, direct her to a safe/secure location and ensure safe transport to her residence. En route she has much to consider regarding disrespectful behavior and she will respond with a follow up acknowledgment, apology, and self-correction. Failing any of that, it’s easy to terminate the relationship.

                        Also - make her pay for the damn cab/Uber ride.

                        [–]ItzFizzy1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        okay i understand what you mean to ensure she acknowledges that the disrespect is intolerable, however I cannot grasp how to execute this. What would I say or do to avoid looking like a big baby about it?

                        [–]RivenHalf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                        I would say one of the hardest parts of unplugging wasn't when I wasn't getting success with women...it was when it was. I run with a pretty rowdy bunch and I can say I've seen it all. Women in relationships, engaged, married. I've seen women laughing as their boyfriend called as one of my guys was nailing her. I've had women joke about how much of a beta their fiance was while she was sucking my dick in a club bathroom. I see a lot of people saying they sometimes fall back on the blue pill but in my opinion once you have really seen the other side of the red pill you can't go back. You lose the ability. After the things I've seen and even been apart of I find commitment to be far outside my reach for the time being and maybe forever. This is the reality of the pill.

                        [–]Moreshekelsanon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        To better understand women, watch this and read about evolution. https://youtu.be/UxpVwBzFAkw

                        [–]berlengas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Honestly you are just pc about the work environment. If he doesn't want a toxic work environment, he shouldn't be interfering with her personal life (calling at odd hours). Confronting the situation in front of othrrs may not be the best action, but it does not make you weak

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                        [–]AllgBeamtenrecht 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        which looser even thinks about upvoting or fishing for upvoting on an anonymous internet board

                        [–]TheBigPlates 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        It’s hard for a player in this game, gotta run them through a series of subliminal tests and find their breaking points.

                        [–]metallicdrama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        At this point dude needs to get caught fucking someone else who is better looking and give zero fucks at all about her reaction to it without mentioning retaliation to earn her respect back. Good luck to that chump.

                        [–]FOODYUMONION 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        If anything go approach other girls. At least match her behavior and prepare to hop ship

                        [–]ginger_whiskers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        prepare to hop ship

                        Sounds suspiciously close to what we call branch swinging 'round here.

                        [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        You're right of course, but this guy's behavior is consistent when you think about it. The reason why he cannot see that his wife disrespects him and is fucking around is because, as a man dutifully plugged into the matrix, he naturally puts his woman on a pedestal. She can do no wrong. Women don't ever lie, or cheat. At least not this one, because she's the ONE.

                        In these conditions, if another guy gets too close to her, it must be HIS fault. The other guy MUST BE responsible for anything going wrong. If the ONE cheats, it can't be because she wanted it since she's an innocent angel pure as fresh snow. All responsibility thus must lie on the other guy.

                        So in conclusion, you can't expect a blue pill guy to automatically blame his woman when this happens. Some do, but you can't expect it.

                        [–]BewareTheOldMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        ...that's some really strong Blue Pill Conditioning. The Matrix runs very deep in some men.

                        [–]TheDevilsAdvokaat[🍰] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                        I do agree it's strange how he seems afraid to confront her yet not afraid to confront the other guy.

                        However, I can't agree with "NEVER go after the other guy".

                        If you know he knew she was married and yet fucked her anyway, then yes i would go after him.

                        I'd also dump her because she's useless; but saying never go after the other guy seems wrong.

                        It's the same as if I caught someone stealing my car..I don't just "blame my car for having poor security"; I also hold him accountable for doing something bad to me.

                        I don't fuck other men's wives and I don't expect them to fuck mine or try to. If I know they had no idea she was married or with someone I will give them a pass. But if I know they knew, then they did something wrong and will pay for it.

                        [–]DrBarnabyJonesJr[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                        Sidebar, homie. She was never yours, it was just your turn.

                        [–]TheDevilsAdvokaat[🍰] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                        Regardless of the sidebar, the other guy did something he knew was wrong.

                        Updating my example, if I borrow a car and somebody tries to steal it, he has done me wrong...

                        Even though it may "just my turn"; doesn't mean he gets to take my turn away from me...

                        [–]DrBarnabyJonesJr[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        No, your car is yours. You purchased it with your hard earned money and it doesn't have the free will to go off with another owner. You don't own a woman. You can get someone for taking your vehicle since you OWN it.

                        [–]TheDevilsAdvokaat[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        You missed something.

                        It specifically says in my comment "If I BORROW a car."

                        [–]flownthedark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I had a very rough time growing up, I had to move when I was old enough because you could see the moment people would see a ghost. I am the spitting image and maybe it was too much to ask for them to take in a kid. I got through it and I was absolutely ride or die eyes wide shut, trying to make a better life then I saw what I was so in love with.No matter the reaction that guy deserves to know. If anyone doesn't like it you do have "g-code" doctrine and I don't like seeing a decent guy get made a fool

                        [–]TheOneAndOnlyRob13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        You'll be viewed as weak, jealous, and unable to control your emotions. Confronting another man could also result in injury, loss of life, and possible jail time. No pussy on the face of this earth is worth that, especially when you can get it for little or no cost at all

                        This is the truest statement on the subject as you can get. In the end, value yourself; pussy isn't jack compared to you.

                        [–]Skyrim1997 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Your COMPLETELY RIGHT. Tell him this. just tell him. FUCK HIM. TELL HIM ITS HER FAULT NOT THE GUYS... If he doesn't like it? Tell him to search cuckold porn and let his mind get hooked on that fetish. If he doesn't realize what your saying. Fuck it. Like you said.

                        [–]kyzen142 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Why don't you teach the man some trp?

                        [–]jamesbond8181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        I completely agree with this. If your partner cheats; it’s not the other person’s fault rather your partner’s for allowing it.

                        Additionally, I believe when another guy asks another male if something is going on, he should let him know.

                        I understand that you don’t want to lose or negatively impact your job, which I understand.

                        However, if we keep putting self-comfort, materialistic things above values, and helping other men, we will forever decline.

                        [–]tiger_stu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Watch 'Fleabag' on Amazon Prime.

                        Actually a pretty funny show. But there is one key lesson for us all.

                        Be Ben. Not Harry.

                        [–]U-94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Lots of dudes hate me for hooking up with the girl they were dating or 'liked'. It's very easy for them to place their own inadequacies on me than facing the shitty chick they've invested in. The first time I hooked up with a girl with a boyfriend, her sister asked me "Are you gonna try to date her now?" and I said "Fuck no, she cheats on her boyfriends" and I was 19. That was obvious.

                        [–]EscortSportage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        "especially when you can get it for little or no cost at all"

                        I live my life by this, I see way too many men washing their lives down the drain over what? Dont get me wrong I absolutely love women, and making them feel good is something I take a lot of pride in, but christ these men are buying their wives teslas (a post on here a while back) expensive trips and things, just because she has parts on her body were we love and want to play with, what an easy life, she just has to show up and look good, while many men are breaking their backs year after year to please and "support' a woman.

                        [–]1x2many 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                        Huh... well, I guess I made an error in judgment, then. A gf, shit bang her away, dude, she’s the equivalent of skittles. A LTR, she’s free to do what she wants, I’m not her boss, but my wife? Well. I found out, found him, and hurt him. I went too far, and actually broke his thumb. I feel he got lucky, however, because that dude doesn’t owe me a thing, right? Do I owe him anything? I don’t believe so. Then he crossed a boundary I recognize. I simply do not fuck other people’s wives. Nor men, nor children. Call me blue, if having a set of beliefs means I’m blue. I also will absolutely beat the fuck out of any man I catch in the act of fucking a kid, or a 14 year old girl, or beating a dog to death. That’s how I got my dog. I took him, by use of brute force. Now I’m a jerkoff, right? Well he was ~3 month old puppy, tied to a tree with 3’ of rope, and these bangers were ‘baiting’ him, - that means using him to train their pit bull to dogfight. It’s not normal for a dog to kill another dog, so they start with puppies, little ones, and force their dog to kill the puppy, and praise it high. If it won’t attack they beat it, shock it, starve it. That’s called ‘baiting,’ and I think it isn’t too much trouble to fuck up anyone I can that I catch doing that. The fucking cops won’t, I live in Oakland. I caught them doing it in Richmond, which makes Oakland look like paradise. I had a buddy with me, and he’s a big dog lover too. Also a US Marine, and at the time was about 10 days out of Iraq. He almost killed one of these little badass bangers, because mr scary couldn’t accept a beating and pulled his sidearm out. Eric was about to, serious, feed it to him when I stopped him. The dudes front teeth were all shattered, as it was going butt first into his gag reflex. So sure man, shop your wife. Mine? I kicked her ass out, filed for divorce. And when her fucktwink had the nerve to show at my door with her (well he was driving the car I bought which she took and hiding behind the steering wheel, in my driveway) I walked over and knocked on my drivers side window. He looked to the passenger window. Big enough to dick my wife, too small to meet my eye. So I broke my widow and yanked him out and broke his thumb. He should thank me. Now I’m blue and don’t know the code. Blue feel god damn good man. Hey, if you get in a pinch I’m here for you, if you’re a friend. A brother, I’ll do anything for. But some things I just find to be obviously wrong. If I want to fuck your wife, I won’t. You divorce her, I won’t swoop in while the ink is wet, either. But a few weeks, and I might hit on her see how it goes, because she’s a free person. I won’t ask you if ‘it’s okay,’ either, first. Nor tell you about it, after, of course. But ‘don’t give the guy who buttfucks your wife a hangnail or nervous tum-tum over what he did,’ cause of code? Well, sounds like you’re some generous guys. Can I eat off your plate, borrow your wheel, and borrow your credit card, too? It’s a confusing message, guys. Be ALPHA, HIT THE GYM, TAP THAT ASS, MAN UP... but your wife is for any dick wanders past, you’re there or not? And if it pokes her, well it’s her fault, the slut, don’t upset the guy with the shit says “I’m red pill all the way,” or some shit? Funny definition of Alpha. I’m different, obviously, my code is different, too, I suppose. I earn what I own, if you want some go get yourself some. This one is mine. My wife? That bitch is dead to me, her little boytoy is grateful I’m not a temperamental man, though, I know it even if he doesn’t. I just won’t kill anyone unless they’re trying to kill me. I wanted to, though.

                        [–]traktor28 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        I can relate bro. Plus I live in Oakland. Go figure

                        [–]dustman83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        While I agree that it's not the other dudes problem when dealing with a married or LTR women, why would you boost her ego and give her your time? If men are banging women in relationships without predjutice, doesn't that just fuel the hypergamy cycle? If more men had restraint and didn't fuck around w taken women, I could assure you hypergamy would sharply decline. Even alpha dgaf Chads still can't control themselves for hot pussy, even if that hot pussy is taken.

                        [–]cordolf02 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                        I was once the other guy. I was firends to a married couple. The woman like to think she was a alpha female (right) but her husband was a pure beta male. So one night while over to her place we were drinking and chatting about life when I brought up that her man doesn't seem to be very assertive she just looked at me and out of the blue said "I sick of that i dont mind being in charge with the household but i just wish he would treat me like a female in bed" and he did use the word female not woman,so I took the chance and pushed her down on the couch. she look sacred for a second until I told her she was mine now and she just gave in fully that first night she was my play ground.

                        The look of pure grataude on her face when she knew a man was taking what he wanted instead of asking for it from her was so gratify.

                        This carried on for years I would take this guys wife when ever I wanted a couple of times I was still at their place when he got home. One time that sticks out was she had just finished cleaning my cock and I came in her hair and about 3 mins later the husband came home and she still had my cum in her hair and he said nothing.

                        The height of this and her complete surrender to me was agian when I was over to their place when the husband tried to confount the wife bout what was going on. They started fighting and she made the statement " if you want me fight for me show him how much you love me" . She just stood there and I desided that enough was enough with this weak man I went over and started to undress and play his wife he asked what I was doing and I simply told him I was showing her who she belonged too. I ask her who owns you. She not taking her eyes off her husdand took off her wedding ring and answered "you own this woman" And of course he did nothing but retreat back to the bed room while I took all night.

                        That was over 5 years now and she is now my very loveing and submissive wife. She tells me all the time how greatful she is to belong to a man that showed her her place and that she was wrong to think she could ever be happy as a alpha or be happy with a beta male.

                        [–]microtry 1 point2 points  (1 child)

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                        [–]thebullforher -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                        He fucked up marrying the weakest mentality defective animal on the earth.

                        [–]AuntieXhrist -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                        Sounds like a Level 1 Dear Abby letter— sorry TRP counselor

                        [–]I_H8_The_LDS_Church -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                        You are no friend. You're the other guy right, or trying to get your fill with her no? Men don't screw friends over like this

                        [–]DrBarnabyJonesJr[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        Reading is fundamental. No where did I say this guy was a friend.