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Field Report“It’s like he has nothing else to do.” (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by lietruth

A quick reminder on initiating contact with women, and a conversation I overheard between my girlfriend and her friend.

So I’m in the kitchen crushing a protein shake and two bananas post-workout. My gf (Ana) is on the couch with her friend (Lucy) talking about some guy Lucy met.

Now, I’ve met a few of the men that Lucy has dated… most of them making over 80k+, driving nice cars, decent bodies etc. Lucy is 25, easily an HB9, and usually dates in the top 10% of men, so I imagine this guy to be nothing short of a high quality man in order for Lucy to consider him.

Anyway, here’s how the conversation went down. I’m paraphrasing, but you know.

Ana (my gf): So tell me about this guy you met…

Lucy: He’s totally perfect and I was so into him the other day, I gave him my number and he messaged me a few days later asking me where I wanted to meet.

Ana: Okay and did you meet him?

Lucy: Yeah we finally decided on going out for tea.

Ana: Ok… when are you seeing him again?

Lucy: I don’t know if I will… he is texting me all the time about his day. Sending me good morning texts, calling me every night. Snapchatting me, liking all my instagram posts, leaving me voicemails. It’s like this guy has nothing else to do. I would rather have him barely have time for me, then all the time in the world.

Ana: Omg, that’s annoying af. Literally, like leave me alone and let me do my thing. I’ll call you when I need you amirite? (…Looks at me curiously… I raise my eyebrow.)

Lucy: It’s so unattractive. There’s no mystery in him, he’s literally saying “I have no mission, I have no other women in my life and I spend all my time trying to contact you.”

Anyway, you know women. They talk in paragraphs about nonsense. So this girl goes off for like 10 more minutes about how this guy turned her off just by the sheer fact of his eagerness.

Needless to say, tied up my shoes, finished my protein shake, and went to play basketball with the homies.

TL;DR: Guy becomes attached at the hip to a random chick he just met. Didn't polarize and made her lose interest.

edit: For those of you in disbelief about the validity of the conversation, context goes a long way here. Previously we were talking about pursuing big goals, passion, purpose, and missions in life. Normally out of the blue I don't hear women blatantly talk like that either. Nonetheless, I prefaced this saying that I am paraphrasing how it went down, and you can substitute mission for "goals" or "things to do". The context of the conversation was about how this guy compared to the last guy she dated who had a ton of female "friends".


[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 397 points398 points  (18 children)

Women are not the goal in life ... they are simply the by-product of a life well lived.

Perfect example of this. You can see how women react to a man who makes women his mission. It is the pursuit of other things, however, that makes you valuable as a man in the sexual marketplace. Even women instinctively know this. Too many men unfortunately conflate the by-product of pursuing goals with the goal itself.

[–]Rommel0502 66 points67 points  (0 children)

This is undeniably true. Unfortunately, it is perhaps the core idea that is completely missed by so many here still stuck in the anger phase.

If you're not seeing women as simply a byproduct of you bettering yourself, you still have work to do on your mindset.

[–]AncientScrolls 42 points43 points  (2 children)

Its really stupid to make a woman your primary goal in life. I would never do it, since none of them are worth putting on a pedestal, due to their hypergamic nature.

But if you really do and cant help it at least fake that you are not into her that much. I´ve heard of lot of stories from colleagues and friends that they lost a girl as soon as they showed to them that she was their 1 one priority and loved them too much. Girls dont like to be the most important thing in a man´s life its the opposite they love the chase, they love the mistery. Keep in mind they are emotional creatures not logical one like us(men) and the coolest thing for them in a relationship is a man that knows how to press her buttons that keeps her interested, allowing her to live those exciting emotions that they love and make them not sure if she has totally won his heart.

Thats why most girls break up with their bfs when they become an emotional wreck, due to some event in their life. Its disgusting for them they are used to that image of manliness, a guy who is always in control of the situations and dont get upset so easily by failures. The moment they see their guy acting like a girl and bitching out because life threw a challenging at him they despise it because it feels for them like the guy became one of their girlfriends, who are also emotional wrecks(every women is). Start Manning up sissy boys!

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Also, being someone's number 1 priority is a lot of pressure.

[–]amekooky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think i just got bitch slapped with an epiphany, very true, i held frame well (before even knowing what TRP was 7 months ago) and I once got into some trouble at a sporting event (think batdad off of southpark LOL) and I acted like a little bitch due to the consequences (legal troubles) , she was supportive when it occurred over the weekend only to leave me out to dry and dump me on monday.. man the fuck up guys and dont make stupid mistakes like me

[–]Kidterrific 29 points30 points  (1 child)

This. A thousand times this.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

This is true, but if you suck at getting women, making getting women your focus for a period of time is useful.

People like to hate on PUA techniques vs just focusing on yourself and being "alpha", but it takes practice to be smooth with women.

The guy who is the weird PUA guy (which really just means he is pushing his comfort zone) and approaches 1000s of women over a few months, before chilling out and focusing on himself, is going to be better than the guy that just skips that step.

[–]PinkySlayer 10 points11 points  (3 children)

No one is saying you can't make an effort or spend time trying to attract women. They're saying that if you make it your number one priority, or more importantly if a girl can SENSE that she is your number one priority, you are not only going to disgust her with your neediness and lack of a drive or purpose, you are also doing yourself a great disservice by diverting resources away from your mission and ingraining a decidedly beta mindset into your brain.

[–]slay_it_forward -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

They don't need to be the number one priority but they do need to be a priority..,..,if you want to get laid.

If you want to be a successful MGTOW whatever but must guys have a strong urge for pussy.

[–]PinkySlayer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No shit dude. What is your comment adding to this discussion? You're just repeating what the three of us said in a dumber way without adding anything of substance.

"most guys have a strong urge for pussy"

Brilliant observation Casanova.

[–]slay_it_forward 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point is that people ARE saying don't spend time trying to pick up women. That was the comment moron. It's not my problem you're too dumb to figure that out.

[–]Fire_away_Fire_away 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably the best way I've see it put. Or another way:

Unsuccessful men think a life well lived is a by-product of finding a good woman.

Successful men know good women are a by-product of a life well lived.

[–]snow_piercer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This needs to be stickied, seriously.

[–]slay_it_forward 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Not really. Women don't just show up on your doorstep because you "made partner" or whatever, or at least not the ones you'd want.

Men need to chase women. It's the natural order of things.

[–]sergeantbbbbs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why is this down voted? Seems like a solid observation to me, unless in missing the point?

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[–]sixohs 105 points106 points  (2 children)

haha yea, soon as I read it I was like "nah"

[–]hahayeahthatscool 36 points37 points  (0 children)

When people make up stories but don't even bother changing the way they talk when voicing their characters zzzzzz

[–]lietruth[S] 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I'm paraphrasing for simplicity yes, but the sentence structure is there.

he’s literally saying “I have no mission, I have no other women in my life and I spend all my time trying to contact you.”

Agreed, normally out of the blue I don't hear women talk like that. Substitute mission for "goals" or "things to do". The context of the conversation was about how this guy compared to the last guy she dated who had a ton of female "friends".

[–]anon2777 25 points26 points  (0 children)

exactly i read that and im just thinking this fits TRP rhetoric a little too well

[–]TheDialecticParadox 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Agreed. This sounds way too direct and rational to be coming from the horse's mouth. Not enough emotional blabbering and worthless detail filler to be credible, even with paraphrasing.

[–]Conceited-Monkey 36 points37 points  (3 children)

I have inadvertently listened in on a lot of women talking about the guys they date, and I have revised a lot of earlier opinions on how "nice" women actually are.

[–]Crimson_Cleric 31 points32 points  (2 children)

They are merciless when you get a peek behind their veil of civility and virtue.

[–]NeckbeardVirgin69 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What I have noticed is that they're really nice to you if you're successful. Lol.

Let's use an example: You're a manager at work and you're kind of a jerk. None of your employees like you, but they respect you because you're technically very successful at your job even though people don't really like you. Guys might find out that you're a jerk and not want to hang around you, but women aren't really turned off by that kind of thing.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes they are feral. And femal virtue is a myth. What they actually respond to is power. When someone in power dictates virtuous behavior, they then follow it. This creates the illusion of female virtue. But really it is femals status worship which has been harnessed by the powerful to socially useful ends.

[–]SetConsumes 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Paragraphs of nonsense.

Women in a phrase.

[–]Toolman890 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Your girlfriend sounds dumb as fuck brah. Literally, like omg, amirite?

[–]Fire_away_Fire_away 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Can't motorboat a personality

[–]askmrcia 52 points53 points  (34 children)

I know the guy is wrong here, but I look at it differently then you OP.

All Lucy had to do was communicate that she wasn't a fan of that behavior then maybe the guy would stop.

A simple "hey you don't need to send the GM texts and text me all the time. I never was a fan of that and plus I'd like to take it slower in the early stages of dating."

Saying that to a guy who's "totally perfect" (her words) will give the guy an idea to cut back. Instead she complains about all the negative stuff. Had she just communicated with the guy then IDK, maybe she be in a decent relationship (ha we all know that's impossible now adays).

Not every guy is perfect. While this chick is complaining about this behavior, some other chick that is obsessed with attention would absolutely love it. I should know, I had a few girls who bitched at me for not texting them often or bitch about their dates not texting them and all that other stuff.

Also when I hear stories like these from the woman's perspective, these types of things are GREATLY exaggerated. The guy probably sent one good morning text and liked a few IG photos (like all her other male followers).

I can keep going, but from what I see on this story, is that this chick is branch swinging hard so any guy that she meets has to be flawless. You said so yourself that she normally dates (keyword there) guys "making over 80k+, driving nice cars, decent bodies etc"

She has tons of options so losing this guy isn't a big deal. You mentioned she is on IG so that says a lot right there. I bet even if the guy wasn't doing what she said, she would find something to complain about.

"OMG he's perfect BUT.....he took me to some hole in the wall bar and the food was shit, omg he listens to rap music, OMG you should have seen this shirt he wore, OMG he can't dance, ect..."

Get my point? They never satisfied and her being 25 in her prime... Yea good luck keeping this chick satisfied.

[–]Casanova-Quinn 41 points42 points  (4 children)

I understand your point and agree. Women could make their dating lives much easier if they just told otherwise great guys to change certain behaviors. However, you have to remember one important thing: women want a natural.

The problem is that if a man changes his behavior at a woman's request, on some level the woman knows he's not being himself. This is a primal thing. It's why TRP or any material teaching men how to be more attractive is criticized by women. Women do not want to be fooled by "fake" alphas.

[–]Crimson_Cleric 15 points16 points  (1 child)

It's absolutely primal. If they even suspect your behavior is contrived or you're following a playbook, it's motherfucking catastrophic for a LTR.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are not a dominant, cool, leader type dude...if you have to be told by a woman to be one. I did have one girl that actually hinted at things, but I was too young and BP to pick up on it.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (9 children)

Chicks like this are pump and dumps. That's it. How the hell can you date a girl who is repelled and turned off by simply considering her socially?

What's so blue pill about sending a "good morning" text to a chick you've maybe gone on a few dates with and are currently banging? It's not like he's buying her flowers and fixing her computer without even getting a date or LJBF territory.

Women like this just can't be fucking satisfied. They need guys to cheat on them and fuck them over cause the only time they're ever happy is when they're bitching to their girlfriends.

[–]captainaryan 11 points12 points  (2 children)

That shit's like heroin for the hamster. Once they figure out that they can go BPD and be completely remorseless to preserve their own sanity, they're gone. If you've ever been with one of these girls you understand.

[–]e4tshit 7 points8 points  (1 child)

can confirm. Dated this one for 4 years and she's always manage to manufacture some BS issue so she could be a victim. Anything that would allow her to come home crying. When she caught me cheating it was almost like a gift I gave her. The gift of being able to ring out endless sympathy from all friends and family. The gift of being able to bring that shit up anytime from now on to drum up some more drama.

I figured that was the end of it and started packing my things. No lie, a few days later she shows up and says Her: so are we going to work this out? Me: there's nothing to work out, you've already trashed me to all your friends and family. Her: yeah well my mom pretty much knows I'll get over it. Me: nah I'm done.

When I told her "I'm done" her head dropped. She was looking forward to the new relationship dynamics where I live in a permanent state of apology under her. I ruined her opportunity to milk my cheating for every emotional drama dopamine drip she could get out of it by walking away and not playing.

[–]BobbyPeru 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Baaaaa. Gold. Enjoy an upvote

[–]TheDialecticParadox 9 points10 points  (2 children)

It's very simple man. If you're a valuable man with options, sending a 'good morning' text won't even cross your mind, because you prioritize your time for yourself first.

If my girl texts me I text her back whenever I check my phone. Ocassionally I initiate contact first. I don't harass and shower her with attention all day because I have better shit to do.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

True you've got a point. Now that I think of it, I never sent any of my past LTRs good morning texts.. Might do some light flirting through text now and then throughout the day but that's about it.

[–]1v1mebruh 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What's so blue pill about sending a "good morning" text to a chick you've maybe gone on a few dates with and are currently banging? It's not like he's buying her flowers and fixing her computer without even getting a date or LJBF territory.

Wellll that type of stuff is pretty clingy...

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If it's every single day? Yeah. Now and then? Not really. I always appreciated a good morning text from girls I'm seeing. They've usually been the ones to send them first. Then again, texting lovey dovey shit is for high school kids.

[–]logicalthinker1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plus, when you're hot shit, you have tons of guys approaching you. You have abundance mentality. So the minute some guy appears desperate and clingy, it signals that he thinks she's way out of his league. And women hate that. They want guys out of their league; especially since so many guys in their league are nipping at their ankles for attention.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (3 children)

You guys really do have to read the sidebar before replying because this is covered already - for women to speak their feelings dieectly towards a man is to rob her of all plausible deniability and therefore to put herself at risk for losing her social standings (and if this was caveman times, her life). They instead have to instead rely on covert communication through their actions. Dont listen to what they say, see what they do is the mantra. A guy should know never to give a girl more attention than she gives him. Girls might claim they love the attention, but those girls are either way below the guys smv and know they cant get better, and/or they will get bored of the attention anyways.

[–][deleted]  (2 children)

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    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    if girls rarely talk to you or give u attention, it means your smv is too low, period. Girls who think you are attractive will go out of their way to talk to you. Once you are already found attractive, then you shouldnt give her more attention than she gives u

    [–]Crimson_Cleric 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    You need to read Rollo's treatise on "just getting it." If she has to tell you what she wants, you don't "just get it."

    For men, it's the difference between having to ask for a BJ and getting one unsolicited. If I have to ask, it's already lost something.

    [–]1naMlliPdeR 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    Alright, let me see if I can make this quick, I have food on the stove.

    Women are attracted to alpha attitude and alpha physical features. Those are signs of masculinity, high testosterone, basically good genetics.

    Women DO NOT WANT, I repeat, DO NOT WANT to "build an Alpha". Because that then means he's a fake alpha. And nothing turns a pussy drier than a man being fake. It means he's faking having good genetics.

    So that's to your first point. She doesn't WANT TO tell him how to act. Women need a man to act manly on his own account. If she tells him, that means he's not manly, and that is very unattractive.


    As to your second point, the girls that bitched at you for not giving them enough attention. That's either a shti test, or a comfort test. But regardless, they're both tests. You don't just do what women ask for. If it's a shit test, well, those are talked about on here a lot. Agree and amplify. If it's a comfort test, well, depends on the girl and how much you like her, but yea, if you want her around, make her feel good about herself a bit. Depends on what she said.

    [–]askmrcia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    But regardless, they're both tests. You don't just do what women ask for.

    Here's the thing and my point. This chick has tons of options. Whether its the fact that he text too much or whatever, it doesn't matter. She will find something to complain about. They are never satisfied.

    She's an HB8 with tons of options. You text too little or too much, guess what? She's gone onto the next guy. That's my point.

    [–]aDrunkenWhaler 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    You're missing the point. Yes, girls bitch about everything, but it makes a huge difference what she's bitching about.

    If she's bitching you don't text her enough, she sees you as alpha. If she bitches you text to much, she sees you as a pussy-ass bitch.

    OMG he spends too much time riding his bike vs OMG he spends too much time playing videogames.

    OMG he didn't even notice me vs OMG he was staring at me all the time.

    OMG he fucked me for 2 hours vs OMG he came in 30 seconds.

    If she complains you're doing beta shit, it's game over. If she complains you're doing alpha shit, it's a shit test.

    [–]askmrcia 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    If she complains you're doing beta shit, it's game over. If she complains you're doing alpha shit, it's a shit test

    Not missing the point at all and I do understand what you are saying. It don't matter. You guys are getting way way way too caught up in this alpha beta stuff.

    This chick is an HB8, in her prime and still single with TONS of options. She complains about you playing video games too much or riding your bike too much or liking some chick's IG photos, she is just going to leave your ass for another guy. She has options and she knows it.

    Like I said, women Exaggerate half the shit they complain about anyways.

    [–]aDrunkenWhaler -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

    You guys are getting way way way too caught up in this alpha beta stuff.

    I say 'alpha' because it's easier than to elaborate 20+ manly/confident/assertive etc behaviours to get a point across each time.

    This chick is an HB8, in her prime and still single with TONS of options. She complains about you playing video games too much or riding your bike too much or liking some chick's IG photos, she is just going to leave your ass for another guy. She has options and she knows it.

    Lol. No. In almost all cases women will not leave you if you flirt with other women, or put yourself first. She might bitch about it, throw tantrums, but will stick around if you don't give in and you're high value and make her life more interesting. In fact, it will make her want you even more. If you don't get this, you don't get women.

    [–]askmrcia -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    We're going to disagree there. Women with tons of options is not going to put up with some dude being an ass.

    She will bitch and eventually leave when someone better comes around. That's hypergamy and branch swinging 101. I just don't see how you guys think you're going to keep women in check, with tons of options just because you dread and hold frame.

    [–]FractalFactorial 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Treat women like objects until they actually voice concern, your default treatment should never be to give them that much attention since giving less will usually not be a turn off: it will lead them to ask for more.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Women hate overt communication and they suck at it. That's not due to entitlement, but due to their programming.

    Women always have to fear being cast out by the tribe and ending up with the risk of loosing protection. That's why they'll try to manipulate as subtle as possible instead of telling it like it is. Get used to it.

    [–]1v1mebruh 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    I know the guy is wrong here, but I look at it differently then you OP.

    All Lucy had to do was communicate that she wasn't a fan of that behavior then maybe the guy would stop.

    A simple "hey you don't need to send the GM texts and text me all the time. I never was a fan of that and plus I'd like to take it slower in the early stages of dating."

    Saying that to a guy who's "totally perfect" (her words) will give the guy an idea to cut back. Instead she complains about all the negative stuff. Had she just communicated with the guy then IDK, maybe she be in a decent relationship (ha we all know that's impossible now adays).

    Why should she have to communicate? She's an HB9, she's had everything handed to her her whole life and has gotten good results no matter how poorly she's handled things because she's hot and has a vagina.

    These type of women never develop emotionally. They never mature. They don't need to. There's literally no reason; everything's already working out perfectly for them, why change?

    That's why validation destroys women. Hell, it destroys anyone. Think about some life struggle you've been through; yeah, it sucked, but I'm sure you've grown a lot from it. What if instead of having to go through that ordeal, things just resolved themselves because you were hot? You would never face hardship and you would never grow as a person.

    That's why if you ever plan on marrying a woman (I know TRP says marriage is a shit deal, but there's many people out there still contemplating it), DON'T MARRY THE HOTTEST ONE YOU GET. Anything beyond HB7/HB7.5 and things start to get dicey...

    [–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I agree with everything you stated which is my point.

    [–]riverraider69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    There is a difference between a girl wanting to give you a blowjob and you negotiating for one, isn't it? The latter is not only less good, but for many men it's actually a turnoff (as it should be).

    You can't "coach" a guy to be attractive. It's just like nagging your wife for sex - you get it, but it's going to be meh.

    [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (2 children)

    I have to call this out for the shit post it is - I can't imagine a girl saying something like "He's literally saying I have no mission, I have no other Women in my life". It's just too convenient to hear a word for word red pill truth coming from a womans mouth like that.

    The real truth here is that if you like everything on every one of her social media accounts and spend all day texting her it's just going to come off as needy and creepy.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Well he was paraphrasing.

    [–]MK_D 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Lesson: a guy hooked up to his phone never gets hooked up with a girl

    [–]WhatUPbRUTSKI 10 points11 points  (3 children)

    Yea I was like that. Trying to totally wean it off!

    [–]FerociousOreos 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    When you get that urge, disperse it in healthy manners. Go grab your dog and tell him how he's a good boy. Call your mother and ask how she's doing.

    The problem, I think, is not that men have these feelings. The problem is how most men deal with it.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    IMO, I think we project how we want to be treated to women. We'll act loyal, attentive, put tons of energy into them. Jump through hoops. Of course, once you find places like this sub you start to learn that women and men find different things attractive. We want women to be into us, be loyal, laugh at all our jokes. Women want something completely different. The traits that are attractive to us men, are repugnant to women.

    [–]FerociousOreos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Men and women love each other differently. I guess it's a tough pill to swallow.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    My philosophy for text communication with women: Only use it to set up dates. Start with a tongue-in-cheek reference to your common past (maybe a running gag you two have), then propose a time and location. If she agrees I tell her to wear something sexy and that's it.

    That's not even some special strategy, I just can't be bothered typing on phones. I use it as an alarm, a notification tool for my mails/calender and for browsing reddit on the shitter.

    [–]Venicedreaming 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    While I believe stories like this happen often, that's not how women talk. Main point is still good

    [–]1cloudmax40 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Post seems fake. Good post and good lesson though.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Have you ever had a girl who wouldn't stop texting you random crap? Such as she texts to confirm a date, you reply with a "yes" and then she comes back with a bunch of random shit about her day, how she's feeling, what she ate, etc.?

    How did you react? In this scenario I just don't reply to anything other than simple logistics. The point is women are attracted to men with options. It sparks that female competitiveness anxiety. Sex is a woman's commodity; attention is one of ours. If you flood the market with your attention, you destroy its value.

    [–]crabyjoe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I hear women talk like this all the time. I've had plates lay naked complaining about their boyfriends. This is very common when they are comfortable with you.

    [–]CalvinHobb3s 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    *A pretend story that I made up. Redpill fan-fiction.

    [–]PissedPajamas 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Yo this sounds like the script to a TRP wet dream so I'm calling BS

    [–]d3gu 4 points5 points  (5 children)

    I think the guy in OP's field report showed that, whilst - yes he was initially a 'Good Catch' and ticked all the Pros column, he also exhibited one of the major red flags: too clingy too soon, which often is a warning sign of things to come: possessiveness, jealousy etc. Maybe not, but what if?

    I also think it shows a remarkable lack of well-roundedness. As Lucy put it 'I spend all my time trying to contact you'. Who wants someone hanging round them all the time? Only boring people, that's who. I wouldn't personally have jumped to 'I have no other women' (I wouldn't mind if I was the only one), but more - Christ man, get a life. Don't you have anything better to do?

    The healthiest relationships are the most balanced. I look to my parents' marriage for this a lot of the time: married for 30 years, they spend a lot of time together, but also time apart with separate hobbies and even some holidays apart a few times a year ('girls trips' for me and my mum, e.g. theatre and posh hotels, 'boys trips' for my dad and brother, mucking around on safari).

    [–]HierEncore 9 points10 points  (4 children)

    posh hotels? theatre? Safari?

    I think you're getting all of this wrong. I think the reason it lasted 30 years is because your father makes a lot of money and your mother knows separation will only decrease her quality of life.

    [–]d3gu 7 points8 points  (3 children)

    Nice assumption, but my mother was actually my father's senior partner until they both retired last year, plus they were both self-employed and earned pretty much the same amount their whole lives (both GPs) :)

    She was actually the one who bought their first car I think? I was going to say their first house, too, but I think they bought it together.

    double edit: My brother paid for the last 'boys holiday', and I know I paid my half of the last 'girls holiday', we're not all scrounging off 'Daddy's money' thanks very much.

    [–]HierEncore 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    sounds like they raised you well

    [–]kanyewost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    why do you talk in the mannerisms of a girl? seriously

    [–]frerri 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Question : how to go about the girl who constantly hits you up and reacts incredibly well when you give fast and sincere replies?

    [–]BestSC86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    "Literally, like leave me alone and let me do my thing. I’ll call you when I need you amirite?"

    Knew it was fake when OP put this stupidity in the story.....the number of 10HBs whom don't want to see the guy's ability to lead and be dominate in the relationship plus go out of their way to call a new dude whom they just started dating is equal to NONE.

    Nice fiction which got a lot of votes though...so keep writing fiction.

    [–]jellybeanIN89 7 points8 points  (9 children)

    It makes me sick that these dumb whores sit around and talk like this about men. It makes me sick how much ego they have.

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      [–]ser0402 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      This whole post seems like a crock of shit if I'm being honest. If it isn't then whatever, but just from how you wrote it, yeah seems like you're bullshitting to me.

      [–]Alpha-as-fuck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Treat them mean, keep them keen.

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      [–]efxhoy 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      That's not how supply and demand works

      [–]Cum_on_doorknob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yea, it's actually "signalling," if you want to go with economic theory.

      [–]kellykebab 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      I have a hard time imagining a woman expressing her exact, honest lack of interest in a guy this clearly and directly. This dialogue sounds like Red Pill robots. The gist is believable, but their speech sounds weirdly unguarded.

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        [–]kellykebab 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        It still kinda sounds like he just crafted it to have them speaking unvarnished RP truths without any of the typical obfuscation and rationalizing that most women (and people in general) use when speaking.

        The impact of this post would seem to come from the fact that it's a real life example of a 9's thoughts, but the paraphrasing is such that OP might as well have just made it up. I might be wrong, but it sounds like he's put words in her mouth so that she basically speaks like an unfiltered Red Pill truth dispenser.

        The effect of it being a real life example is therefore weakened.

        [–]tino125 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        I'm with the guys calling BS. A girl actually said "he's literally saying "I have no mission...""

        Girls don't fucking talk about guys and 'missions'

        If you're going to bullshit us, at least make it a little more convincing you tryhard.

        [–]aanarchist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        sounds like he met someone better suited to be a pump and dump.

        [–]Toussant 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Have you tried to plate Lucy?

        [–]TRP_DarkTriad -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Excellent question. He should bang her easily given the preselection he has at the moment.

        [–]AnjaJutta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This comment is for everyone who raised their eyebrow and checked if someone was looking at them curiously whilst reading this text.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        So I’m in the kitchen crushing a protein shake and two bananas post-workout.

        I stopped reading after this.

        [–]TomFoo 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Nice, quick field report, bro. SMV is everything.

        [–]2kez88 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Well obviously not, otherwise this FR wouldnt be here haha. You can have the highest SMV, but if you act like a needy pussy then you will still turn women off

        [–]TomFoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Good point. High smv will get women in the door, but only a strong frame will close the deal.

        [–]rathyAro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        There have been two times recently I went back and forth over text with girls a lot. Like all day every day for a few weeks. I think it really depends on the girl and how attracted to you she is.

        [–]Betterthanuatlife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Taking a protein shake with you to play basketball

        Such protein abuse, your gains will curse you for this.

        [–]justthebeliever 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        yeah bro - just having a snack and overheard this convenient conversation that illustrates a minor point about not showing too much interest immediately. not busting your nards or anything - but it was a good thing you mentioned this snack was post-workout or i would def had to dock some major bro points. who needs girl talk when you can shoot hoopage on the homies though right

        [–]BestSC86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        "Previously we were talking about pursuing big goals, passion, purpose, and missions in life. "

        Then you should not have started the fable with you were just in the kitchen and overheard a random conversation....

        You overheard something but then let too many of your Redpill assumptions loose in your story.....

        Basically, women don't like guys whom are too into them too soon everyone knows that but she isn't going to jump the shark on a "perfect guy" after one date because what you described...

        And she most definitely is not going to think to this "perfect guy"....leave me alone until I call you.....that is letting your Redpill lesson run away with itself.

        [–]Oz70NYC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Wow. Dude fucked up his plate and doesn't even realize it. I get a gal's number, wait maybe a day or 2 to contact her, set up a meet and greet and she doesn't hear from ne until the day of. Leaves her in suspense of if I'm gonna blow her off or not, and when she DOES hear from me, she's wondering why I didn't contact her after agreeing to the meeting. Do I have other women orbiting me? (I do) Did someone come along that made me lose interest in her? She's got all kinds of questions in her head, and now she's going to try and impress me to "try" and get answers.

        And I'll usually give her a few to tide her over...as we're laying in my (or her) bed following me blowing her back out. It's chess, fellas. Not checkers.