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CultureWomen should no longer be sent to prison unless they have committed a serious crime says Justice Secretary (self.TheRedPill)

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Women should no longer be sent to prison unless they have committed a serious crime, the Justice Secretary says today, as he unveils a “step change” in the way female offenders are dealt with. David Gauke will today announce plans for five residential women’s centres where offenders will get help with drug and alcohol problems, educational support and counselling instead of being locked up. Plans for new women’s prisons have been scrapped.

WOMEN should no longer be sent to prison unless they have committed a serious crime, the Justice Secretary says today, as he unveils a “step change” in how female offenders are punished.

Ministers want to “break the cycle” of sending women to jail after it emerged fewer than 40 women were behind bars in England and Wales for violent offences. Most were serving time for shoplifting and similar crimes.

David Gauke will today announce plans to open five residential women’s centres, where, instead of being locked up, offenders will get help with drug and alcohol problems, education and counselling.

He is to scrap plans to spend £50million on building new women’s prisons with the focus instead shifting to keeping women out of jail, after research showed the majority were mothers of young children.

It comes as Rory Stewart, the prisons minister, said jail terms of less than a year should be abandoned for all but the most serious of offences.

His remarks signal a growing shift toward community care instead of short sentences after Mr Gauke said handing out short jail terms did not work.

Mr Stewart told MPS that offences involving sex and violence were likely to be excluded to ensure dangerous offenders could not dodge imprisonment. He said: “We need to shape the argument as to why an ever-growing prison population is not in the interests of the public.”

Official figures show just 1 per cent of 4,000 women currently behind bars are there for violent offences. Five per cent of the prison population in England are female and half of them have committed shoplifting or similar offences to support the drug use of someone else, often a male partner.

Three per cent of the 95 per cent who make up the male prison population have committed a violent crime, while 77 per cent are there for minor offences. Women have much higher rates of mental health problems in prison and 60 per cent have experienced domestic violence.

The Justice Secretary said: “While public protection will always be our priority, and prison must remain the only option in the most serious cases, I want that to be a last resort.”

He added that shifting the emphasis to greater community provision “ultimately benefits offenders, their families and the wider community, as we see fewer victims and cut the cost of reoffending.”

If the five new residential centres are a success, more will be created. The emphasis will be on preventing women from going back to jail after figures showed most women reoffended soon after being released. It costs taxpayers £1.7billion a year to deal with female criminals and £5 million over two years will be spent on the scheme, in contrast to the £50 million new female prisons would have cost.

The plans were welcomed by prison reform campaigners but are likely to raise concerns that vulnerable men in the prison system are being treated unfairly compared with women.

Dame Vera Baird, from the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners, said: “For the strategy to achieve its intentions, it needs to be properly funded.”


[–]reluctantly_red 560 points561 points  (77 children)

No one should go to prison unless they have committed a serious crime.

[–]Gorech1ld 91 points92 points  (17 children)

Yeah, you bring up an excellent point. As it is right now, the USA's stance on this shit is ridiculous. You get caught with illegal drugs, you'll get sent to prison where you have to interact with people with some serious shit. It's ridiculous and there should've been a reform a long time ago about this. Most of the people going to prison for fucking drugs are goddamn drug addicts. I can't imagine how anyone could think that sending some dopehead Jerry down to a prison full of gangbangers could make him any better once he comes out.

It's a shame that in England, it's only the women getting this change. But it's to be expected. Women are the protected gender after all.

[–]EequalsMC2Trooper 36 points37 points  (4 children)

Time to reassign and reap the benefits. I’ll just keep wearing suits, growing my beard and earning a male privileged salary. But I have decided I have a female brain so can I not go to jail for thieving and have an easier time getting hired please. Thanks.

[–]halfback910 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Hell, I've contemplated claiming to be female to avoid a line at the airport bathroom. "I'm a gurl" costs me nothing.

[–]EequalsMC2Trooper 14 points15 points  (1 child)

When has the men’s bathroom ever had a longer queue than the women.. I’m guessing a sports event? Literally the only time.

[–]halfback910 9 points10 points  (0 children)

... I was flying in to the libertarian national convention now that I think about it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol yeH might as well force their hand yuhzeeme

[–]cpk8080 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It all revolves around money, Most prisons are privately owned and are for profit. Unfortunately, things won't change anytime soon in the U.S. because the people profiting don't want it to change.

[–]WalterEArmstrong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Most prisons are privately owned and are for profit." Citation please.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There's less money and influence in reforming and educating.

[–]BlackCraneStoic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, to be fair education indoctronates kids to be obedient, thoughtless work drones more than it actually "educates" anyone. Real education takes place independently outside of institutionalized settings. Hell, TRP can be considered more educational than the US system including college.

[–]BlackCraneStoic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A person who sells a dimebag of weed will be locked up alongside murders. Look I'm no saint. I've been locked up on one occasion for resisting arrest for a month. Guess what type of people shared a room beside me. A pedophile and a child murderer. Fortunately I was protected by a drug dealer doing 10 years but I was in for "resisting arresting" alongside straight murderers.I swear want nothing to do with jail or pig cops again. Freedom is way too valuable for that bullshit.

The US is fuckng retarded when it comes to legislation. It only serves to make minor criminals worst and line the pockets of heads in the Prison Industry.

[–]_the_shape_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't imagine how anyone could think that sending some dopehead Jerry down to a prison full of gangbangers could make him any better once he comes out.

Because the U.S. doesn't do "rehabilitation", it does punishment.

[–]dDiegoDLV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You need to separate the blue pill horse shit the general public eats up:

>sending some dopehead Jerry down to a prison full of gangbangers could make him any better once he comes out.

from WTF is really going on:

Prison is an industry. The people profiting from that industry want as many people locked up as possible to maximize profits.

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      [–]n-esimacuenta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      You get caught with illegal drugs, you'll get sent to prison

      It's fair, if you buy drugs you are part of the problem, you are what feeds the cartels.

      [–]Gorech1ld 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Well, what if you're buying drugs from the local drug dealer that's simply growing some weed in his backyard? Someone not a part of any kind of cartel?

      Drug dealers aren't all gang members after all.

      [–]2soccerbum312 65 points66 points  (2 children)

      It's like this woman's idea of helping is what the fucking prison system should have been in the first place. Gives people direction and goals to work toward whole serving time and teaches them to not be an ass in society

      [–]golden_crow 13 points14 points  (3 children)

      "Three per cent of the 95 per cent who make up the male prison population have committed a violent crime, while 77 per cent are there for minor offences." Yet we will not invest in diversion programs for them because of express bias.

      [–]reluctantly_red 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Yeah -- I've been a public defender for over a decade and can still count the number of truly dangerous people I've represented on my fingers.

      [–]WalterEArmstrong 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I don't believe that 77% figure for one second.

      [–]HannibalBacara 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Well the problem is what is considered minor offenses.

      Some people are in jail for large amounts of weed. It might be a major offense in the law's eyes but I don't think someone possessing a few lbs of weed is a major offense.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 21 points22 points  (19 children)

      The amount of taxpayer money used to catch and imprison drug offenders is a joke. Soft drugs should be legal and regulated(marijuana, mushrooms), the rest should be decriminalized while offering rehabilitation to those who desire it. The state will make it's share on tax. I don't know a single person who wants drugs and can't get it.

      [–]halfback910 2 points3 points  (14 children)

      Can we also classify cocaine as a soft drug?

      It's difficult to OD on. The worst side effects aren't the end of the world and can be treated with medicine and not doing cocaine. It's not super addictive. Withdrawal can be handled with like a half day off work, a nice bed, and takeout.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 11 points12 points  (12 children)

      As fun as skiing is, it's highly addictive, whereas Marijuana, mushrooms, lsd are not. Snorting is the slowest way to ingest it, smoking or injecting it are far quicker and far more dangerous. There's also people with a hypersensitivity to it, so it's far too risky to classify as a "soft drug".

      [–]erthian 7 points8 points  (9 children)

      admittedly i don't know the science, but i definitely know a lot of people who seem to be hooked on weed.

      [–]sea-bear 8 points9 points  (6 children)

      weed can be psychologically addictive, whereas cocaine, heroin and alcohol are physically addictive.
      so if you wanna quit weed you may just think about it a lot and miss it. if you wanna quit the hard stuff your body starts to betray you.

      [–]erthian 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      So the withdrawal just isn't as bad?

      [–]yungassed 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      There is no physical withdrawal from weed so you can't really call it that. Withdrawl refers to the the physical symtoms one experiences when they cut out a drug such as nausea, vomiting, hallucinations, cold sweats, and sometimes even death (for alcohol or benzos). That is why it is better to tapper off the dose for some drugs rather than go cold turkey.

      [–]erthian 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      So whats wrong with this guy lol. I dont smoke weed so I really dont know. I've just always thought it was hell to quit.

      [–]yungassed 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      It really isn't. It only seems like that for the case of this guy and other people for smoke everyday because they never developed mentally without it. They used it as their cooping mechanism for everything... can't sleep? Smoke some weed. Trouble eating? Smoke some weed. Girlfriend broke up with you? Smoke some weed and forget about it. They never end up developing the mental skills to deal with daily life without it, so once they stop, it seems like torture to them because all the underlying problems that they never dealt with and used weed to cope with all resurface at once. Their entire personality was based around being a stoner, so without it, they are shell of their former selves and don't really know how to go about the world anymore.

      To be fair, psychological dependence can be hell, but that can be caused by anything, not only drugs (such as porn or overeating) so it is really their own fault for being in their position. Oppose that to a physical addiction where you feel like and even might die without the substance, it really is no comparison.

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        [–]erthian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        That was my conclusion as well. Seems to be the 'mental' addiction is actually mild withdrawal.

        [–]halfback910 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        A man of my station and upbringing can only do cocaine, I hope you understand.

        It is the brandy of drugs.

        [–]HannibalBacara 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        In what world is coke addiction easy to overcome?

        [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Soft drugs should be legal and regulated(marijuana, mushrooms), the rest should be decriminalized

        I would say eliminate regulation as well. Make everything legal and unrestricted.

        The free market always does a better job of regulating products like drugs because of the incentives and punishments that come with competition.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I'm a bit torn on this one, on one side if you look at current legal models the amount of alcohol and tobacco related deaths is astounding. Both industries are regulated to some extent(advertising, alc vol %, tar % etc) but for the most part a free market. As a species we're just not great with moderation. Competition generally leads to more availability too

        On the other hand I'm not opposed to fully legalizing it and letting natural selection take it's course. Those who abuse and die forfeit their spot in the gene pool.

        [–]EdmondDaunts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        If anything the recent legalisation of marijuana showed that there’s not some huge rush to buy it. There is a small change but basically the ones already doing it keep doing it.

        [–]Throwaway-242424 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Decriminalisation is a silly half-measure that doesn't address many of the biggest issues with the war on drugs, and these are issues that arguably apply even moreso to more objectively harmful drugs.

        [–]halfback910 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Came here to say this. The fact that it's only being done for women is obviously scary though.

        [–]Mattcwu 87 points88 points  (2 children)

        Women should not be sent to prison unless they have committed a serious crime.
        Men should not be sent to prison unless they have committed a serious crime.

        [–]Aggressive_Beta 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        And victimless crimes shouldn’t be considered serious crimes.

        [–]yungassed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        but but but think of the example it sets to the children!!

        [–][deleted] 128 points129 points  (6 children)

        They already rarely go to prison for the felonies they commit.

        [–]EequalsMC2Trooper 44 points45 points  (2 children)

        Kidnapping children from their husbands and running off without leaving any contact details... it’s because a mother’s love is insurmountable.

        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 34 points35 points  (0 children)

        Murdering their children is also acceptable and not imprisonable.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        There's good reason for that: it isn't necessary.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        That's a rip. Any felon should have to pay whatever price society said should be the price for that felony. There should be no such thing as a female sentencing discount.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The goal of prison is to minimize chance for recidivism. Women, as a gender, have less of a chance for recidivism, therefore they receive less sentences.

        That's how the system works. Whine all you like, it isn't changing.

        [–]AvatarStinky 64 points65 points  (8 children)

        It costs taxpayers £1.7billion a year to deal with female criminals and £5 million over two years will be spent on the scheme, in contrast to the £50 million new female prisons would have cost.

        Bingo! This isn't about women and going easy on them it's about money. Read he sidebar post on PowerTalk.

        With the exception of the United States (and a few other countries) there's a trend of putting fewer people in prison where it costs the state millions of dollars to feed and house the inmates. Why pay $8500/month to house and feed an inmate when you can sentence him to house arrest? The GPS ankle bracelet only costs $600/month and almost all of the time the person on house arrest has to pay for it.

        [–]kommissar_chaR 20 points21 points  (3 children)

        yeah the way i figure, they're piloting this because it's a smaller slice. if it works with this demographic, they might try the larger chunk of male offenders later. whether it's actually driven by the cash remains to be seen, but it's a fair bet.

        [–]mmerijn 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        If that is the case that is good but if they wanted to try it out to see if it works then you might want to have a more representative sample size and not just women because otherwise you still don't know if the results worked just because of this specific demographic, because of that I don't think this is merely testing out and is instead a "save the women" virtue signal.

        [–]kommissar_chaR 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        yeah it's 50/50 at this point. a smaller demographic is more palatable and easier to measure with the perk of saving money. However, it could be women first for the same reason. easier to eliminate a smaller demographic from the system for the wacky end of keeping female offenders out of prison. never know with the brits.

        [–]mmerijn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I bet on the women part because they lately have had this strong SJW moralizing tendency (arresting people for tweets and funny nazi pug dog video?) so I wouldn't be surprised if this is another one of those stunts.

        [–]Rabalaz 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        Pretty much. Really makes you wonder how many of the lads here fall into the same pit trap the rest of society falls into of not reading an article beyond the first few lines.

        [–]mmerijn 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Well, the question is if it is about saving money why only do it for women and not also for men?

        [–]AvatarStinky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        They do do it for men. GPS monitoring under house arrest has been used as an alternative to prison for non-violent offenders for a while now. The vast majority (upwards of 90%) of violent offenders are men.

        [–]EuropeanAmerican420 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        In USA we have prisons that make money off of the prisoners.

        [–]2littleblacktruck 319 points320 points  (20 children)

        England is a shithole. Happy Independence Day.

        [–]Ganaria_Gente 52 points53 points  (8 children)

        You know honestly.... The other Anglo countries are just as, if not more fucked

        Personally, I believe the West is utterly getting played around and screwed. And it's become very obvious to me that it's way to late to reverse this

        It's so fascinating yet morbid to witness this

        EDIT: i love the logic from the supremacists implying that they are the better gender by saying women commit less crimes than men and go to prison alot less.... By their logic, the fact that blacks and Latinos are disproportionately represented, is because they deserve it because they're just more criminal

        This is how SJW logic works..... LMAO

        [–]2littleblacktruck 59 points60 points  (5 children)

        Some of the best fucks I ever had were feminist SJW types. The consesus was, I took charge and put them in their place. It was a turn-on, according to them. Seriously. Read "The Most Responsible Teenager In The House". Feminism as a whole is a macro shit test. I call them out on it at every turn and it works. Women want to be led. It turns them on when you tell them to knock it off, I don't like your tone, stop your whining... etc. Feminism will end the day all men grow a pair and tell women that their tantrums are unacceptable. Feminism is a tantrum on a large scale.

        [–]Ganaria_Gente 14 points15 points  (2 children)

        I don't disagree with you, but I don't believe there will come a day when men will do that, on any scale large enough to change the tide

        [–]Rexile 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        Yeah I mean there are a lot of men supporting the feminism thus making these tantrums acceptable. This is NOT okay.

        [–]Showshimselfout 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        100% in this camp. What is it with men supporting the farthest extremes of feminism? Are there gender imbalances that favor males? Sure. Do I need to listen, accept, nod, agree and apologize every time a woman opens her face hole? Please. Get outta here.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Sadly the trend seems to be heading in the opposite direction. As much as i would like to see society succeed, on an individual level, the men who still have a pair will benefit now more than ever.

        [–]NormalAndy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Nope, England is most fucked. Everything sucked dry by London.

        [–]btrpb 16 points17 points  (9 children)

        England is a shithole? I'm not saying we haven't got problems but you don't know what side your bread is buttered.

        [–]NormalAndy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Lol- it wasn’t until I left that I even heard of ‘the English advantage’: Wherever you go, nicer food, better weather, friendlier people.

        [–]Irishminer93 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        England went around the world looking for spices to make English food better. They eventually gave up.

        [–]tilnewstuff 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I will venture a guess that you've never actually been there before, correct?

        [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

        Women get support, men get blame.

        As men we can expect zero support from a society that is ready to point the finger and blame us in an instant, while absolving women even of significant crimes.

        More than ever before: live your own life for yourself, you owe the world nothing because the world does nothing for you.

        [–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (1 child)

        Headlines: massive gender transitions among criminals

        [–]zyqkvx 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        Look at the money trail. They are trading the equity of a built prison in to funding posh low labor jobs to women counselors, and women information guides. So basically the women who stab their boyfriends, shoplift, and let some douchbag molest her welfare-check kid for drugs, get to meet up with feminist 'counselors' and giggle nudge/nudge.

        Reminds me of homeless shit problem in San Francisco. Homeless people daily shit all over the city. They have elaborate maps of all the areas that have shit everywhere. A few years ago a SF judge dismissed the arrest warrants of 66,000 shitters. Just now I read now governor Brown is declaring an emergency because a hepatitis A breakout. Oh bless that Liberal Judge. Jeez just read San Francisco's downtown area is more contaminated with drug needles, garbage, and feces than some of the world's poorest slums.

        [–]TheLegionnaire00 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Justice should be blind. You fuck up? We fuck you. Vlad the Impaler for president!

        [–]Johnnyvile 100 points101 points  (27 children)

        Europe is a fucking joke now.

        [–]MarcosDomingues 30 points31 points  (6 children)

        Europe is more diverse than you think. It's like saying that the whole american continent is a shithole because of school shootings.

        Where I live there are no muslims, no refugees, no illegal immigrants and feminism is not even talked about that much.

        [–]_BITCHES_LOVE_ME_ 11 points12 points  (4 children)

        Where is this magical fairyland and will you take a Swede?

        [–]MarcosDomingues 12 points13 points  (1 child)

        Just so you know, my country wanted to welcome some of the refugees and they said fuck off and refused to come cuz they wanted to immigrate to Germany and England Lmao.

        [–]_BITCHES_LOVE_ME_ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, the ones that make it that far north aren't refugees, they're economical migrants looking for a free payday. Why else cross all of Europe...

        [–]KV-n 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Eastern europe. It comes with shitholey state institutions and everpresent corruption tho.

        [–]tilnewstuff 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Said by a guy who has never actually been to Europe.

        [–]RedPillAlphaBigCock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Oh fuckoff! Don't speak for the entirety of Europe - you know fuck all

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          [–]tilnewstuff 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          Sometimes this sub has great content. Then I remember that some of the members who write those great posts also write stupid stuff like this and it makes me doubt what I just read.

          [–]Koryphae_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          I recommend a break. I was away for 3-4 months totally. I then realised the meaning 'TRP is a toolbox'. Most of posts here whine and do not offer generic advice.

          I think its good to come once a while and read the sidebar material. The 'MRA' and womenhate does not progress me potentially. Maybe it is a field for somebody else.

          [–]gains_o_clock 10 points11 points  (13 children)

          this blaming muslims BS is stupid as hell. It's upper middle class/upper class privileged white girls complaining about man spreading and fat hoes being sad they can't get a man (body positivity LMAO) stop being gay and blaming things on stuff you don't know

          [–]Heptadigm 6 points7 points  (7 children)

          Its not necessarily blaming the muslims, but their ability to control their women will allow them to take over western society in due time.

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            [–]the_one_tony_stark 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Nobody is saying that the demographic takeover by muslims wouldn't plunge europe into darkness and chaos.

            [–]1by1is3 0 points1 point  (4 children)

            Any society where half the population can't work or sometimes even read is a society doomed to fail.

            What bullshit is this. Women not in workforce are not sitting at home playing video games. They are performing household work and rearing children and cooking - something that gets externalized when women start working jobs. The overall work performed is the SAME, the only difference is the people performing it. Just because unpaid household work is not added to GDP stats does not mean it's not work.

            [–]haroldpeters -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

            "stop being gay" ffs you sound like a kid. understand that the entire upper echelons of wealth have been planning to use Islam to subordinate freedom and re-introduce the slave classes. Its been publically admitted to, go read morals and dogma.

            [–]gains_o_clock 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            I am a kid; luckily found TRP when I was young which from reading horror stories here I am very grateful for. I try to make sure I'm not a complete retard by trying to learn everything I possibly can and from my learnings of the three big religions I've found that they are Red Pill as hell. Men are required to work and support the women and the women are supposed to stay home and watch the kids and be obedient etc. among a buttload of other things.

            If you really want to learn and not just spew garbage and have 60 seconds of your time to spare go to the "Misogyny" wikipedia page and scroll to religion and look at Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

            Comments like this guy's are just brainwashed conservative homos that try to force their ideals on TRP and make it Republican. I'm a moderate tbh and I know Trump and Clinton are both raging retards in their own respects but come on stop trying to force your garbage down our throats.

            [–]haroldpeters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            calm down, I'm not trying to ram anything political here, just give you a historical perspective.

            Remember : Weak Men Create Hard Times

            that's whats happening right now. that's all im saying

            [–]Johnnyvile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I have no issue with European people or their individually country’s culture. But the EUs policies are getting ridiculous. They pamper the individual way too much. The lawsuit against Microsoft because people can’t figure out how to install a different browser, nope just force the company to make a special operating system for their people. The impending lawsuit against google for only adding google apps the Android system they made, nope just force them to make a special OS that gives their people choices. The failed multiculturalism effort without assimilation. GDPR crap. The EU wants to fine and control US companies.

            Oh and the original post as well.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            It is simply astonishing to witness the collusion between the white knight government and the feminine media to form a narrative aiming at convincing the people that women are to be absolved of all responsibilities.

            Pro-tip to all my Brit brothers. If you get arrested, declare you identify as a woman.

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            The most ironic part is, women's prisons are 10,000 times better than men's JAILS.

            Not surprising, everything women get is better funded. But hey let's forget the men getting brutally raped! Women are being punished for crimes and are going to nicer places for murders than men do for DUIs!

            [–]JADuCharme 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            Fuck it, it's 2018. I'll just change my gender.

            [–]ntvirtue 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            But but Gender is a construct!!!

            [–]sqrt7744 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Sure, and Tommy Robinson, who also has small children, can be sent to jail for no other reason than that the political elite dislike him. Serious crimes only my ass.

            [–]red_philosopher 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            First off, those statistics are damn lies. According to the UKs own criminal data, (https://researchbriefings.files.parliment.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf) There's no way that only 1% of the female prison population there is there for violent offenses. Tables 5b, "Prisoners in custody by offense type", has 1072 of 3795 female offenders being incarcerated for "VATP" (Violence Against The Person) offenses. If we include sexual offenses, robbery, and "criminal damage and arson", this number climbs to 1675 of 3795. That's 28.2% for VATP alone, and 44% for crimes that were personal in nature, inflicted harm, or involved the destruction of property.

            1% (39) women in prison for violent offenses? Hogwash. Women are 20% more likely to commit a VATP offense in England/Wales. This doesn't even touch on the confounding of the variables by sentencing disparities, the greater likelihood of incarceration of males (by as much as +100% or more), and the fact that ~70% of non-reciprocal domestic violence is committed by women with male victims.

            Insanity. The lot of it.

            [–]TheTrenTrannyTrain 24 points25 points  (7 children)

            Happy the US broke away from cuck UK. Happy freedom day you all.

            [–]Ganaria_Gente 15 points16 points  (2 children)

            If I were American or Canadian or Australian....I wouldn't be celebrating. We're getting pretty screwed over here too

            [–]angryomlette 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Dame Vera Baird, from the Association of Police and Crime Commissioners, said: “For the strategy to achieve its intentions, it needs to be properly funded.”

            Sigh. Another attempt to divert money to their pockets and with no care for the public.

            [–]Satou4 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            This is Britain. What do you honestly expect at this point?

            Edit: Maybe they need women to be drug lords to supply the incoming migrants who have opiate addictions

            [–]ReadyPlayer15 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            While I think it is certainly unfair, I really like the idea for a totlal population

            [–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            This has been the position of the UK Green Party for years.

            I remember during the 2015 election I would bring it up and people would shout at me that it was "only a suggestion" and "would be debated". But its their ultimate intention.

            [–]vicious_armbar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            It’s always been jail for men and counseling for women. Including in the USA. The only difference is England is actually being honest about it for once with this cartoonishly bigoted scheme. Yet people claim that TRP is the real epicenter of sexism because we talk about how to get laid.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            There's also a huge class problem in the UK where the unemployed get more benefits than the lower class employed get in wages post-tax. This means that the price of everything goes up because people in general have more money, which means it costs more for basic living. When the unemployed need something they wander into the dole office and put their hand out and get given extra money for it. There are posters in SW jobcentres saying that if you are addicted to heroin for example, you can recieve more benefits.

            So now the "poor" at the bottom recieve, on top of their free house, lots of benefits and the actual poor become the people working 40+ hours working 2-3 jobs just to survive.

            The problem then is that the unemployed raking in the cash have nothing to do all day. So they fuck. And reproduce. And the class above are working 14 hours a day 7 days a week just to survive. No time. No money. No time or money for children.

            So now you have a country where the unemployed women are producing 1-10 children per lifetime who then grow up to do the same thing, meaning that birthing is now exponential over the next 100 or so years. A country filled with entitled people who grew up expecting and demanding hand outs to live like kings, whilst everyone else who actually does real work and pays tax only has 1-3 children at best. And a country goes down the shitter.

            [–]batfish55 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Wait just a fucking minute.

            Women already have a lower conviction rate, and get more lenient sentences than men. So the new attitude is, "Fuck it, just let them get away with shit"?

            This shit is why I spend more time over at MGTOW.

            [–]kremer5 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            you gunna make me copy and paste the article into google to find it?

            [–]Vinegar_Dick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Ikr. Just link the damn article.

            [–]grewapair 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            "Half of the women have committed [crimes] to support the drug habits of someone else, often a male partner."

            No shit, Sherlock, because they know they won't serve time that the man would if he did the very same crime. So he always sends the woman to do the crime because he knows in your cucked society, she gets off with a slap on the wrist. This new program of awarding free food and hospusing for crimes committed will make it even worse.

            But this has apparently flown over their heads, and instead, it deserves sympathy as their minds are controlled by evil men.

            [–]3LiveAFTSOV 26 points27 points  (31 children)

            I'm starting to wonder whether or not women can even tell the difference between right and wrong.

            If we take a biblical approach, we can see that Eve took the first bite. She swallowed it and said "Mm!" and gave some to Adam. She didn't beguile him, nor deceive or charm him. She just said "here, have some."

            Women are incapable of knowing right from wrong. They weren't meant to. They were just meant to be free.

            And we can see that play out by their behaviour - they stay with whomever they want to stay, they go with whomever they wanna go with.

            They're like children. Curious, loyal-less children. Not disloyal, like a betrayer. But loyal-less, incapable of giving loyalty.

            They stay with the most interesting toy around, then wash away and dissolve like a tide.

            But that all got fucked up when ADAM, the MAN found out about right and wrong. The punishment only happened once Man realized right and wrong, because only men are capable of such power.

            Don't put expectations on her or try to expect more of her than what she's capable.

            Feminism is women trying to liberate their behaviours. They don't know what they're doing is wrong.

            This is why men would beat and stone women for cucking - we knew it was wrong of women to fool men into raising other sons, especially while not having any of our own. Women, on the other hand, thought nothing was wrong about what they'd done. "It all just felt so right to me!"

            Women aren't capable. They aren't responsible enough.

            Men are the ones who have true power.

            It's a man's responsibility to know the differences between right and wrong, good and bad, to clean up whatever mess our woman's made (like feminism), and ensure our women don't make any messes in the first place through masculine, leadership. Like a father.

            Which is exactly why women should not be in any position of power at all.

            Let them do things of little significance. Let them paint in the garden. Let them give all our sons their first blowjob. Shit, maybe even at the same time. Let them shake their asses on the club, and show off their skin in the streets with skimpy tops and booty jeans.

            Don't fucking let them into a position of power or importance, like a President, a CEO, or a Doctor, a fucking police officer.

            That is like giving children some fucking dynamite.

            Let them all play in the sandbox.

            Let women sit around waiting for their harem.

            Women are literally like animals, so don't be mad at the animal, for behaving like an animal.

            Even if you put in animal in a cage, it still won't quite understand why it's being punished. Only that it is now in a jail.

            [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 7 points8 points  (3 children)

            I'm starting to wonder whether or not women can even tell the difference between right and wrong.

            Right = "what you can get away with"

            Wrong = "failed to convince others of how innocent she is".

            [–]3LiveAFTSOV 5 points6 points  (2 children)

            Exactly. Like a dog that eats meat off the table.

            that's what I mean when I say "right and wrong" - I mean that women don't think they just let their feefees guide them.

            Do they know it's "wrong" (lack of a better word) to file false rape charges, I think not, I think they don't have the capacity to understand such a thing.

            They only know "he hurt me! waaah, RAPE!"

            Theyre too stupid, a child throwing a temper tamtrum.

            Of course we still put em in time out tho

            [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Do they know it's "wrong" (lack of a better word) to file false rape charges, I think not, I think they don't have the capacity to understand such a thing.

            Right. They understand that being caught is wrong, but they don't seem to have a sense of right and wrong like we do.

            They only know "he hurt me! waaah, RAPE!"

            Or: "Need feels, rape!"

            [–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            They DO know. They just don't care. Morals come second to their desires. What changed is that instead of a real punishment, they get a slap on the back of the hand that means nothing to them; incentivizing them to push the envelope further and become increasingly amoral.

            [–]WestyWorld 30 points31 points  (10 children)

            This comment scares me. It’s pretty far-detached from reality.

            [–]Rabalaz 21 points22 points  (7 children)

            The guy's a fucking crackpipe extremist that ISIS would find extreme. I condemn him and anyone that supports his ideology of stripping the humanity of women away from them to the reduction of being cattle chattel for men.

            Let them do things of little significance. Let them paint in the garden. Let them give all our sons their first blowjob. Shit, maybe even at the same time.

            Shit's messed up yo.

            [–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            The irony is feminists love islam because they crave being dominated.

            [–]QuasarSandwich 0 points1 point  (5 children)

            Yeah: does that mean my hypothetical son has to get every subsequent blowjob from men?

            [–]Stron2g 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Id say its a much more realistic approach to women than what the feminists want.

            [–]LukesLikeIt 12 points13 points  (2 children)

            Was good until about halfway. Why dehumanise humans even if you are correct about the loyalty part.

            [–]fanthor 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            It's like a man who found some foresight about women, then tried to link that foresight to everything he hates about women

            [–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I'm curious as to why you're standing up for women about "dehumanizing" when women would have all of us die for them on the sole grounds that we are men, and they are women, so we must sacrifice for them.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 1 point2 points  (7 children)

            But that all got fucked up when ADAM, the MAN found out about right and wrong. The punishment only happened once Man realized right and wrong,

            Some people say you should treat Bible as metaphor, so here's some "metaphors" ala NRS:

            The apple was supposed to kill after eating. It didn't in any way. Thus the deceit was done by god and reasonably, the fall from god's grace can be interpreted the other way around: "humans now know I'm full of shit and lost respect for me, so I have to get rid of them."

            Eve ate the apple b/c it was food, it looked good AND was "also desirable for gaining wisdom". IOW she wanted to know more, which is more of a male characteristic. Adam didn't. Adam obeyed god like a proper beta. Thus Eve disobeying god is the first ever act of breaking from the Matrix designed to keep people from knowing.

             

            On a more serious note:

            This is why men would beat and stone women for cucking - we knew it was wrong of women to fool men into raising other sons,

            Wrong for who? Certainly not the women and not the species. "Wrong" is morality, not amoral objectivity of "why and how". They exercise their sexual strategy by trying to cuck men, we exercise our strategy by stoning them for trying.

            [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Triumvate method

            subtle jab at op

            Also, joos, lizard people, and again, triumvate method

            [–]3LiveAFTSOV 1 point2 points  (5 children)

            I thought that too, when I was a rebellious teenager is when I first thought of that theory actually. it is called the "tree of knowledge," after all...


            wrong is not the right word, the point is that they do their strategy with the same foresight that an animal hunts for food. men on the other hand think before the stoning

            Maybe "Against Nature" is a better substitute, considering that cucking is not natural for the most part.

            im pretty sure there are no cucks in nature.

            a thinking women capable of restraint is rarer


            I figured it out

            Liions and wolves do not know "right and wrong" they just live instinctually, fuck fight hunt eat and shit. They are feeling meatsacks.

            Animals are amoral.

            Women are the same. They don't understand right and wrong, nor do they even understand why and how. They hamster "he's just hot!" Or "he raped me!"

            Men know the difference, and we understand.

            Men know morality, therefore men can be moral, amoral, or immoral.

            Women, in the other hand, are stupid amoral animals.


            When eve ate the apple, she stayed an animal, as much as she wanted to know more, she couldn't. Not without a man.

            When Adam ate the apple and become an actualized man, that is when knowledge was birthed, and from there, He, the man, was able to lead the woman.

            Women cannot lead themselves. They need a herder

            [–]Dawnguards 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            You got it wrong - women know whats wrong. They just know they get away with it. Where did you ever get idea women are like children lol.

            [–]3LiveAFTSOV 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Women have the mental maturity of a 16 year old.

            Cite: personal experience + sidebar

            [–]Dawnguards 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            After I got red-pilled and started to notice how women doesnt take responsibility of their actions, words, promises, etc.. I might believe their brain is at 16 year old but somehow I feel they just play dumb because that what makes blue-pilled people deceived.

            [–]Satou4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            This is brutal. But I can't deny the Biblical allegory. Eh, maybe it is true, as is most ancient wisdom.

            [–]TheDevilsAdvokaat[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            And men, too?

            If not, sue them immediately for institutionalised sexism.

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            The plans were welcomed by prison reform campaigners but are likely to raise concerns that vulnerable men in the prison system are being treated unfairly compared with women.

            Prison reform campaigners can swallow trp then realise no one cares about men.

            [–]twichyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Must be cheaper to lock up men than women. What to do with all those free empty prisons? Fill them with men.

            [–]KarmaKill23 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            I googled *justice secretary women should not be sent to prison* looking for the source material. This post is the second hit only behind [The article you copied] (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/26/justice-secretary-dont-send-women-prison-unless-commit-violent/).

            I think that makes it safe to say this is literally getting no coverage.

            [–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            TRP News : We bring it to you second.

            [–]Whiteout- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            To be fair, having prisons serve as rehabilitation facilities instead of punishment that leads to recidivism is a huge step in the right direction. Should be the case for men and women.

            [–]RutCry 2 points3 points  (5 children)

            “Men should no longer be allowed penises!”, insists liberal democrats.

            [–]Rabalaz 9 points10 points  (4 children)

            Lib-dem here, bro. Happy 4th btw. Just wanted to correct your sentence to...

            “Men should no longer be allowed penises!”, insists dumbfuck feminist supremist.

            Remember my dude, we may swing for different political teams, but we men need to stand together against the idiocracy that is misandrist contemporary feminism

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              [–]Rabalaz 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Well fuck you too, my dude. We can talk chop-shop all night and day over the merits and black marks of our political choices and beliefs, but when you spit on someone and treat them like shit, you destroy any chance of productive conversation and compromise.

              And I sure as hell say that to my side too. Because I know at the end of the day there's one thing that is stuck with us that we have to fight against with all our might; Human stupidity.

              [–]RutCry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              U/rabalaz, I didn’t see the other comment before it was deleted, but here’s a quote of mine from an unrelated thread:

              “Anyone else get the feeling that if we could just get the blowhards on both sides of the aisle to STFU, the rest of us could work things out just fine?”

              Peace be with you today my Liberal brother.

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              This honestly doesnt sound so bad.

              [–]1Entropy-7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              The plans were welcomed by prison reform campaigners but are likely to raise concerns that vulnerable men in the prison system are being treated unfairly compared with women.

              Pretty much sums it up. Pussy pass or leveraging their kids for a get out of jail free card.

              [–]acekilo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              These old piece of shit POLITICIANS NEED WOMEN TO VOTE FOR THEM AND THEIR BULLSHIT. THATS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. EGGS ARE EXPENSIVE AND SPERM IS CHEAP!!

              [–]conflagratorX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Next step: provide statistic that 90% of prisoners are men. Make punishment harsher to keep men away from crime.

              [–]CubingCubinator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              These people call themselves feminists, but are the exact opposite. Pathetic.

              [–]yes_i_exist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Hey, can I please have a source for this?

              [–]JoeBender1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Women shouldn’t be sent to prison.

              The mentally inept and insane get put in asylum instead.

              [–]OGmojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              doesn't this just confirm that women are children who can't be held responsible for their actions.

              [–]phillyphan19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I actually think this is a step in the right direction. I expect men and women to eventually get to this point but I understand there are a lot more men in prison.

              [–]Anthony1881 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Sounds like the government wants to pimp the women out " unofficially" kinda hard to do when they're in prison... lol!

              [–]Dark_Lord_A 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I'll give Britain about 10 years before it collapses from internal struggles. That'll suck because Guatemala won't really have anything to fear from invading my country. Fucking SJW scum are fucking up the world and don't even have the foresight to see how the shit they do is going to screw us all in the long run.

              [–]Two_kids_in_a_coat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I agree with this. Should do it for men too, but it’s a start in the right direction.

              [–]VictxrSenpai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Lol "Residential centers"? The prison system in the UK is a joke anyways

              [–]NormalAndy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Bare sexism - even in their book. Why does this even go to print I wonder?

              [–]Viking_RnP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Will probably just create more legal games to sap the women and their flocks of children into financial prison. Just the way the law likes them.

              [–]1SirKolbath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              What happened to England? Jesus Christ.

              [–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              “We need to shape the argument as to why an ever-growing prison population is not in the interests of the public.”

              but you just said it's ONLY FOR WOMEN... how can you then say it includes men?

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              [–]modTheRedPike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Read the thread, jackass.

              [–]Scuzzin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Justice has 20/20 vision now apparently.

              [–]Hyperintelligentwolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              People go to prison because they have committed serious crimes, manipulative bitch. Sometimes, women are judges who send women who have committed serious crimes to prison...

              [–]pohlrich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              this is a back step from gender equality :-(

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Justice secretary is a fucking retard says captaincoldblood

              [–]hulk_hogans_alt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Thank god we kicked England out in 1776.

              Happy 4th btw motherfuckers

              [–]High-Ex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Lol just look at him

              [–]roguefreezemission 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Brit's don't have any guns to lock up they already handed them all in to the liberals

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