Field ReportFR: My first experience with a white knight and getting accused of 'sexual assault' (self.TheRedPill)

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I'm 20 from the UK, 6'0", 83kg, 12%ish bf, just over average looking (although this has hardly helped at all I was skinny fat/blue pill/didn't know how to escalate), and currently at a reptuable uni doing a STEM subject. I've been reading TRP for around 15 months, have been lifting for the same amount of time and found the red pill the usual way (bad LTR I entered way too quickly out of lack of abundance and because I thought it was the 'right' thing to do due to BP conditioning).

I've slept with a fair number of girls since breaking up thanks to TRP putting me on the right track and am happy with my progress since both in mindset, habits, and game.

I went out a few Saturdays ago with one of my old friends from school as we're both back in our home town for a few pints which turned into going clubbing and getting white knighted badly and getting kicked out of the club.

My friend and I went to around 3 or 4 pubs on a crawl before going to a bar deciding to go out properly.

The Bar

At this point we were around 5 pints in and a few shots and had 3 more at the bar, I know TRP advocates not drinking excessively as it's bad for gaming girls etc. but I have learnt (as frequently advised) that going out just to have fun with no solid intentions to pull is a lot better for success which is why I usually just drink to suit the pace of the night, but the main point of mentioning this is I was not at all sober.

We sat on a table adjacent to a table with a group of around 10 people, two of which being girls sitting closest to us, all our age or a year or two younger. After maybe 20 minutes of being there, one of the girls started a conversation with us after hearing my friend went to a university in Bristol, which is where she was from. She was about HB8 and so was her friend.

After about 5 minutes of conversation her friend joined in, her friend was from the town me and my friend are from and the girl who started talking to us originally was a friend from the other girl's uni visitng. After a few minutes we start talking in pairs due to the way we were sat, and her friend started shit testing me, to which I A&A, pressure flipped and then occasionally just completely ignore her for around 5 minutes in a bemused way and joining in with the other pair for a bit before she tried to iniate conversation with me again after trying to flirt with some of the guys she was with to get a reaction which she failed.

I started teasing her about the school she went to and her hair and she started seeking validation from me. One of the notable things she did is point out one of the guys she was there with was her boyfriend, and started savagely taking the piss about beta things he did during their relationship including him writing poems for her, crying when she wanted a break, begging for her back etc. At the time I felt a bit sorry for the guy and pressure flipped the situation by saying how lucky he was to be rid of her, saying I bet he's had much hotter girls since etc and he was lapping it up and following my lead for around a minute before he dropped out again. This guy turns out to be a white knight.

After a bit more flirting she said something which I ignored, and then her group went after that and I acted as if I didn't even notice she was going. About 2 minutes after they all go, she comes back asking if I'm going to a certain club (there's only two in town), to which I say "maybe if you're lucky" which she responded to by saying "please" in a childish way with my smirking and ignoring her.

We stayed in the bar for probably 30 minutes, talked to girls we knew from school and some other chicks before leaving.

The Club

So we get to the club and get a round of drinks, go to the smoker's area, game some girls and talk to some guys for fun as well, and just do that for about an hour.

I was talking to another girl (which I got a number close on) when she walked out and instantly approached me. I finished a conversation with the other girl I was with for about a minute before she left to talk to her friends seeing the girl who approached me was waiting. I turned to her and said "Oh no, not you again" smirking. She was playfully asking why I hated her, trying to get validated which I just agreed and amplified with, she was with her friend and so my friend came over and we started chatting again. Her friend went to the toilet alone which was a good sign (usually girls go to the toilets together so this was clearly talked about between them beforehand), my friend took the hint and went to get a drink.

She started shit testing me instantly again and within 20 seconds I escalated and started kissing her in the smoker's area. After pulling I way I said "let's go inside" and guided her out, she said she said to her friend she would wait to which I just said okay kept guiding her towards the dance floor (actions not words).

I escalated more on the dancefloor, pushed and pulled a bit, and escalated more. She started feeling my dick through my trousers and I started rubbing her crotch, I put my hand down her skirt and started playing with her (for the record I was drunk) and she responded by grabbing me more tightly, kissing me 'harder' and moving with it, absolutely zero resistance which I was surprised with.

Then I literally had my hand in her when her ex boyfriend ripped her away and his friend sort of stood infront of me being really friendly and starting a conversation to cockblock me, which to be fair, was a pretty well executed move.

I didn't really care that much because she was obviously wasn't worth the trouble with her ex there, and then went to find my friend. We got another drink and went to game girls on the dancefloor.

All of a sudden I was pushed by her ex boyfriend, some girl who was apparently her sister punched me in the face in full view of a bouncer, I didn't react at all and then got grabbed and chucked out by the bouncer.

I asked what I was being kicked out for and he said that I "sexually assaulted" a girl. That really pissed me off and was saying "if that's the case call the police, I haven't done anything wrong and it's my fault her ex boyfriend got jealous" etc etc which obviously was a waste of time. I got kicked out to the alleyway completely gobsmacked, called my friend and we shared a taxi to get to our respective houses.


All in all I thought the night went pretty well, I'm getting a lot more success in passing shit tests, lifting has improved my physique and then had tenfold the improvement on my confidence, I'm past the anger phase where I'd spurt the occasional RP truth when it happened infront of me and have learnt to let it go, play the game and STFU.

In retrospect it went better than it could have, I could have got in a fight which is a lose lose, and there was no way I could have been actually convicted as there was CCTV in the club and it would have shown nothing non-consensualabout it, although I was shook up after initially hearing the accusation after reading some of the stories on this subreddit and MGTOW etc. I think the right way to have played the situation was to not escalate as much and just get her number and bounce. I don't think the close was on because her friend was relying on her for a place to stay, although I do think I was a bit unlucky with the ex-boyfriend at all.

Main take-aways

  • Lift, be attractive.

  • Smash those shit-tests.

  • Escalate as soon as possible and take the lead.

  • Don't cuckold some jealous beta, there's other girls which are a better use of your time.

I also want to say thank you to the communitiy, the ECs, the mods and other posters for all the time put in by everyone here to benefit and help complete strangers. I still know I've got a long way to go from the field reports written by people which actually know what they're doing but I'm happy I've made a start and am making progress.

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[–]1atticusfinch1973 249 points250 points  (37 children)

You had the right approach throughout, just wasn't in the cards. Hopefully you weren't fingering her for a while and obviously - as soon as she let you touch her pussy your next suggestion should have been to get the hell out of there.

Even pocket aces lose 12% of the time.

[–][deleted] 145 points146 points  (15 children)

Even pocket aces lose 12% of the time.

Advice doesn't get more fatherly than that. Lessons for life, right there.

[–]Luckyluke23 10 points11 points  (0 children)

as a poker player, there is nothing more true man.

[–]trpboy123 12 points13 points  (13 children)

Pocket aces? Can you please tell me what that means?

[–]killabri 44 points45 points  (7 children)

It's a Texas Hold 'Em poker term for when the 2 cards you're given at the beginning of each hand are both aces. It's outrageously rare and is the best possible starting hand you can have.

[–]clausternn 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Lol it's not outrageously rare. It's like a 1/160. Outrageously rare would be straight flushes.

[–]randomTATRP 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Well, you can't get a straight flush in your starting hand, can you?

[–]clausternn 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Sure, it's the best starting hand, I just meant 1/160 isn't outrageously rare. It should happen once every two nights, on average.

[–]randomTATRP 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The keyword is SHOULD. That's the therotical probability, you could get two pocket aces in a row or you couldn't get them at all in 500 hands.

Personally, I played like 10-15 games of poker with my friends, averaging around 20-50 hands per game (depends how well I played) and never got pocket aces.

Luck is everything, there is a saying in my country: 'Better to be born without a cock than without luck' :D

[–]clausternn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What the hell country is that?? Haha. Great expression.

[–]randomTATRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, hahaha :D
In the Balkans (SE Europe) :)

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Texas Hold 'Em poker. Pocket aces represent having AA as your two "hole" cards. These two cards mathematically give you the highest pre-flop odds of winning the hand.

But, exceptions happen. 66 comes out on top every now and again. This does not decrease the desirability of two aces. Nor does that increase the effectiveness of two sixes. There simply is no such thing as a sure thing.

Outside of actual people, few things have improved my analysis, emotional control and decision-making than learning the game of poker. Learning the (relatively easy) math behind it makes this even more true. Especially for those of us who have to fight the "red mist".

[–]zestytacoz 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I should really get back into it, i used to enjoy it a couple of years ago. By the way, what do you mean by red mist?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That horrible cocktail of chemicals sprayed in your face that causes logic-swallowing rage, anger, and aggression.

[–]Layback 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In poker, when you get two aces as a starting hand.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (19 children)

I was fingering her for maybe a couple minutes. I think her ex was watching the whole time and decided to step in then.

Usually I would have tried to leave shortly after but her friend was visiting and staying at hers so it was unrealistic.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_SALSA 31 points32 points  (3 children)

I can’t get my head around how much of a cuckold her bf is. Was he watching you finger her and hen decided after 2 minutes that * it was enough * and that * she had her fun so now it’s time to cut it off *?

It’s incredible that these white knights will be understanding of their girl enjoying a grinding and fingering session with some random dude on the dance floor and then just blame the guy for being a weirdo. Why is he not holding her princess accountable too?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Yeah it was ridiculous, just typical pedestal behaviour.

[–]PMmepicsofyourtits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Although I generally don’t recommend finger blasting someone on the dance floor. If you’ve got that far it’s time to bring her home.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Men can only finger my girl for a minute. 1 min 5 sec and it has gone too far.

[–]Wolveryn 11 points12 points  (14 children)

Had you considered just convincing them both to stay at yours with a potential threesome being the subtext here...

you should have waited for her to come outside .. I mean surely she was wet for you... I suspect she was gonna fuck you at that point, but not if you’ve already taxied home

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (13 children)

She would have left with her friendship group including her ex boyfriend and since I'm back in town I'm with my parents at the moment so wouldn't have been able to go back anyway.

Plus it's probably a bit weird waiting for an hour outside the club for a girl, I'd rather just go home.

[–]Wolveryn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All she needed was plausible deniability to make it work, you could have fucked her in the toilet cubicles

Tell me you at least got her digits? :D

The ex bf sounds strange

[–]antariusz -4 points-3 points  (10 children)

Then it’s your fault for having shitty logistics.

Even if your intention is to JUST go out and have a good time and not get laid (male hamstering, of course you want to get laid), always have your logistics set. And if you’re in a place in your life where you’re still relying on your parents for support, then that needs to be one of your priorities in life to fix.

[–]xjxckk 13 points14 points  (9 children)

Pretty common in the UK for uni students to go back to their home town over the summer holidays and stay with their parents for a few months.

[–]Ppppap -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Hotel rooms exist for this. If you can't afford it, blame your own inability to finance it.

And ya. Part of the reason why moving venues is important. In this game, white knights are the main danger. Especially if the white knight is one of your friends.

[–]OfficerWade 79 points80 points  (7 children)

I’ve had many nights this way with girls my guy. These girls who initiate with boyfriends want you to take them away, they want to be stolen. Soon as y’all start kissing you need to ask her if she wants to leave.

I’ve texted girls with lines such, do you wanna go anywhere else? You wanna get outta here? That’s all a girl needs to skip over the line and you can have sex with her if she goes along with it.

Good job on escalating though and not being a pussy... it could have been worse.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (5 children)

To be fair I didn't realise her ex was there until he cockblocked and I don't think she would have left with me anyway because she had a friend staying at hers. Wish I got the number though.

Thanks for the advice!

[–]OfficerWade 17 points18 points  (3 children)

No, and they won’t tell you about her boyfriend until as you found out, the hard way unless you ask her out. Doesn’t matter though you got a white night to show up and save a hoe,;not yours just your turn...

[–]PMmepicsofyourtits 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I wonder if the white knight got laid? Not even from the woman in question, just in general. Has anyone ever white knighted successfully?

[–]confusedpoptart 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can confirm it does work but requires orbiting for years. White knighted some girl on twitter years ago, ended up having her drive to the state I was visiting (Canadian here) and smashed her in the car. This was after I started reading up on TRP that I actually smashed her, I doubt i wouldve if i kept being a cuck.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is the only thing you did wrong. The rest is textbook. You missed a corner of icing on your cake.

[–]Aesthetic_God__ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well, my opinion.. Don't ask her if she wants to move away with you, tell her " let's go at another bar" or "let's take a walk" etc. And she'll follow. I found it much easier after I took the lead at such situations. What I mean is lead always and don't ask if she want to go, she'll probably say yes and come most of the time. If not, keep escalating and moving around in small steps, like from the bar to the dance floor, then to the smokers lounge then to your or her house.

[–]NDNPreserve 84 points85 points  (14 children)

Club sluts. Look for trash you'll find it.

[–]cant__find__username 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is a great phrase. Thank you!

Very similar to play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam 9 points10 points  (9 children)

Where else can you find ass to get laid

[–]trees_away 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Get some hobbies my dude. My main hobby (photography) has put me in close proximity to very beautiful women. Numbers have been in my favor, and I’m in an OLTR with one and playing another. Before that started to pay dividends, Tinder was my other source of plates.

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    [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

    I think cold approaching is the difference between guys that find TRP and improve enough to have a steady stream of girls via clubs, social game and tinder compared to guys that have countless options with the hottest girls.

    How and when did you start doing it, especially being from the UK where I feel like people would just find it irritating to be cold approached although I think that's just hamstering on my part?

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      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Just had time to read, great post.

      You often hear about the end product here and the beta before but that was pretty step by step.

      The only question I have is what were the sorts of time-frames between the interactions in the post?

      [–]redpill_quest 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      In my experience 70-80% of girls (early twenties) go to club at least once or twice a month. The same girl you met on the supermarket you might meet her on a club but act different to you. Maybe how a girl treats you depends a lot on the context you met her, i.e if you approach her on a club she will categorize you as player, little thirsty, and not long term material and you ll have to go through a lot of shit tests to make her a consistent plate when otherwise you wouldn't have too.

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        [–]DeeLad29 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        I completely agree. Cold approaching is simply the best. It also helps with anxiety, thinking on your feet, and just putting yourself out there completely sober.

        I've also had my fair share of successful cold approaches, most girls do not mind at all; instead they're flattered and impressed that you've got the balls to do it.

        [–]love2fap 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        What's wrong with this? I love sluts. They go to clubs. You're coming across as whiny. Why blame a woman for being a woman?

        [–]PMmepicsofyourtits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        There’s nothing wrong with a woman who is comfortably about dick. But that’s not good for building anything more meaningful.

        [–]Rares5555 82 points83 points  (2 children)

        I’m so tired of this shit. I took my first punch because of this. I hit on a girl from school in our local club, literally took me 5 mins of push pull to kiss her, we were all over each other, and a fat fucking ass that got jealous of me told another guy that was drunk and high that he’d give him 10$ if he sucker punched me. Thing is I didn’t fall and he pissed his pants (literally) after falling down. That’s how drunk he was.

        Why can’t some fucks admit that some of us are better than them. I mean yeah if a 6 foot 4 athlete would steal my girl, I would be fucking angry and upset for a bit, but after all that’s the game. I stole birds too.

        It’s all about who’s getting better and better. My father once said to me “You and guys your age are dumb fucks. You become in love with girls and better dudes steal them from you, and then you cry. When in fact, you boys should be passing girls around, and competing to see who benches more, who becomes a more successful man etc”

        [–]temerity18 38 points39 points  (0 children)

        Sounds like you had a great father.

        [–]2Dmva100 47 points48 points  (1 child)

        All women lie about sexual assault unless due process reveals otherwise

        [–]B_Campbell 15 points16 points  (0 children)

        Yeah but who wants to deal with that shot show.

        [–]B_Campbell 25 points26 points  (1 child)

        Fucking scary as hell that some chicks will throw criminal charges at a guy rather than admit they cheated.

        [–]NomBok 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Tbh it was probably the cuck ex-bf that said something to the sister, who assumed he was telling the truth, and they said something to the bouncer.

        [–]ahab_dies 20 points21 points  (2 children)

        Sometimes it's just not meant to be. Of course you didn't do things perfectly (stayed in the club a little too long, got too sexually aggressive in public) but life's not perfect. Also you were unlucky with the bouncer because for us Brits we're still in an environment where anyone who gets "sexual assault" is instantly vilified, even though all you did was pull a girl and then get assaulted. I hear bouncers are more woke in the USA.

        Some guys will not even bother if they know an ex/boyfriend is present because its not worth the trouble as that guy can be a ticking bomb and ruin the night. There are always other single girls there, but that's more of a preference than a rule.

        Overall it was a really well played night, good stuff OP. Most guys could only dream of being at this level at 20. God knows what your kill list will be like at 30.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Most bouncers are such jobs worths here, there is literally no talking to or reasoning with them.

        [–]ahab_dies 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Agreed. Like I said, I think USA bouncers are way better (from what I hear). In my experience in the UK, British bouncers are there because they want to beat people up and dominate people and they love abusing their power and being the king. That's what they love about the job. British bouncers are generally quite scary and violent individuals and I would advise any foreigner to avoid them like the plague. A lot of them brag openly about knowing the security camera blind spots where they can take people and beat the shit out of them. I've worked with some chill bouncers in London who always did a great job diffusing situations peacefully, but they were definitely the exception.

        On the other hand if the bouncers are your friends then you can get away with murder.

        [–]TooAngryToDie 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        OP, it sucks the jealous ex had to go and ruin your night but my dude, you've got game ;) Get back out there and reel some more in but be extra careful next time (The moment you reckon you can get laid with her, gtfo of the club asap just incase)

        [–]IronPollack08 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        Whenever someone doesn’t like the situation, including the female, say the words sexual assault. Game over.

        You handled it like a pro.

        [–]iLLprincipLeS 22 points23 points  (0 children)

        • Women lie about rape if they regret having sex when it was consensual.

        • Women lie about rape to cover up their infidelity.

        • Women lie about rape if a man won't commit to a relationship after sex.

        • Women lie about rape to prevent being perceived as sluts when their sexual behavior is brought to light.

        • Women lie about rape to blackmail men for money or position.

        • Women lie about rape to get rid of men at their school or workplace.

        • Women lie about rape for leverage in family court.

        • Women lie about rape to publicly ruin the reputations of men.

        • Women lie about rape to indirectly brag about how desirable they are, the same reason they post Creepy PMs.

        • Women lie about rape if they regret having sex when it was consensual.

        • Women lie about rape for attention.

        • Women lie about rape for revenge.

        • Women lie about rape if caught in a sexual act that would cause shame or damage their reputation.

        • Women lie about rape because doubting their claim is socially reprehensible and anti-feminist.

        • Women lie about rape because they don't want to be held accountable for their actions.

        • Women lie about rape for public validation and praise for being a "rape survivor".

        • Women lie about rape because they'd likely get a slap on the wrist if they confessed or were caught lying about it.

        • Women lie about rape if they regret having sex when it was consensual.

        • Women lie about rape because the justice system tends to rule in their favor because they're women and by proxy, "victims".

        If you consider the benefits of just a handful of these, you'd understand why false-rape accusations are so prevalent.

        [–]Jonny-Wavenhoe 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        I've read a number of similar stories on here, where men get accused of sexual abuse for tenuous reasons, and I've added my own. In your case, it seems as if she turned to that excuse straight out so her friends and ex wouldn't think her sluttier than they probably already know she is, right?

        So, she'll stick to that side of it, probably not pressing charges (and your cctv will prove otherwise), and whenever she's polled to confirm she's a victim of abuse as well as every other girl, like many girls, she'll confirm the assumption that so many have been abused - ergo, the Me Too movement.

        Does anyone know of one hash tag where we all share these similar stories demonstrating that so many women who will say they were poked in a bar or whatever were either just under a misapprehension, or outright lying to distance themselves from contempt?

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'm not sure whether she said it although I think her ex probably deemed her too drunk, despite being less so than me, and cried to the bouncer about it. She probably went along with it because she didn't want to admit to getting fingered in public by a guy she knew for 2 hours to her friends but I doubt she started the initial accusation.

        The whole set up in society is ridiculous at the moment and it's getting worse, surely that has to be a tipping point where it's too far for even the most left winged feminists to back.

        [–]bossman9275 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Damn. You guys keep mentioned lifting over and over. I just recently got a hernia just under my belly button and even with a belt I'm.not supposed to lift heavy ( go for reps not max) no squats,dead lifts, shit like that.

        Have any of you had a hernia and if so what did you do for exercise if you could? I have to talk.to my doctor about it(so far I only went to a walk in) but I'd definitely like to have surgery if that's a possibility. I would definitely like to get jacked at some point and I've always enjoyed sports and going to gym. I hope once I have surgery I'll be able to go for mass again.

        [–]MarvelousWhale 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Speaking to a doctor will result in him suggesting you avoiding exercise altogether because they're worthless at practical advice and are only looking for one liner answers that provide a shotgun approach to all patients for liability reasons. The only useful doctors are surgeons.

        However, if you want results, speak to some physical therapists dedicated to lifters or gymnasts and ask what they prescribe for hernias. You'll get a functional response you can use in life and likely be on a path to recovery.

        [–]i_like_herr 7 points8 points  (7 children)

        Dude we're in the UK! You should've called the police, cc tv everywhere

        Would love to see the chick in jail for assault

        [–]theSmartPenguin23 6 points7 points  (6 children)

        Don't be stupid, she wouldn't even get jail time.

        [–]i_like_herr 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        The girl who cried wolf wouldn't. But I am not after her, the girl who punched him deserves to be taught a lesson.

        This has happened to a friend of ours, when I first heard of the sexual assault even i didn't side with the guy (yes pretty bp I know). But then footage prove his innocence and the club had to pay him damages for beating him or risk closing down.

        Obviously nothing happened to the girls wgo claimed the sexual assault, they claimed they were drunk and didn't know what they were doing.

        [–]xjxckk -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

        And the girl who punched him is going to claim she was drunk and didn't know what she was doing. Obviously nothing will happen...

        [–]i_like_herr 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Bring drunk isn't an excuse to hit someone. That's not how the law works.

        What you can argue is she will get of easy, but there is no way that a first world country will let that slip

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I've been punched in the face by a girl at a bar. She kept talking to my friend and he wasn't interested, and he turned to her and said, "look I don't find you attractive at all." It was really unexpected so I started laughing. As the bar is closing everyone is filing out and she just walks up and punches me in the face. One of her male friends saw what happened, and the look of building rage on my face. He walked over, picked her up, and carried her out of the bar and I never saw her again. Doorman of course saw it too and nothing happened.

        [–]MarvelousWhale -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        This is true, and it's also not worth your time or effort, much more important things to focus on.

        [–]Wolveryn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Was the sexual assault claim from her? Or the ex-bf?

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I can't know for sure but it looks like it was almost definitely her ex-bf. He might have deemed her too drunk or something despite her being less drunk than me.

        [–]kiwifx 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Well played, and well handled mate.

        Question: UK has some pretty extensive CCTV watching everything. Given what happened here, does that bother you, or would you call it an asset because of these kind of situations?

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        In this case I was glad there was CCTV because it's impossible for me to get in trouble with the actual police because I didn't do anything wrong. Maybe public sex is illegal but it happens all the time in clubs and the she would have had to be prosecuted as well which obviously would never happen.

        [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        ISOLATE, then escalate. That first part is important.

        [–]z2a1-9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Great field report keep slaying!

        [–]PepinoSF 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        He is not a white knight, but a jealous cuck. And it is not clear whether the girl is really in to you or she is just using you as a tool to penalize him in a really bad manner.

        [–]kyzen142 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Haha reminded me of my brother he does not give a fuck when it comes to these kinda of stuff on multiple occasions he would be on the dance floor and piss off some girl and she would hit him but he will hit her back or shove her he doesn't give a fuck. The last time we were in the club a girl on the dance floor was rubbing her ass on him and then he turned around to grind on her there was a dude with her maybe a bf but he pushed my brother and my brother literally pushed him in the throat so hard the guy almost fell down.

        [–]NikolaGeorgiev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Good god, that ex boyfriend... What a fucking cunt.

        [–]mr_kuk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Your experience is so full of your solipsism that I don't know where to start.

        I'll keep it short. You were a pawn in a carefully crafted drama. A chump. The give away is her sister punching you.

        "But, she grabbed my dick!" Yes, and you also got kicked out of the club.

        [–]econquest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        (Disclaimer: just a beginner, maybe you know better than me)

        How is your third take away

        "Escalate as soon as possible" when it got you thrown out for no reason. No don't put your fingers in some girl on the dance floor.

        [–]Kyson5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        A shame you got copped like this. For the record, grabbing the pussy isn't something you should be doing in the club on the dancefloor, have a tiny bit of class.. Do it on the way home in the taxi, or when you tell her "she has something in her hair" as you push her against the wall or a lampost.. You seem to have done everything else correctly though

        [–]qilimanjaro -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Should have extracted her after you met her in a new venue

        [–]Llaguardia -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Well you need a sexual assault security assistance

        [–]Helpcalculus -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        I think the right way to have played the situation was to not escalate as much,

        Nope. It was just an unlucky situation. It's hard to calibrate that.

        From my experience, it's right there and then, or never. Always Be Closing.

        [–]2chazthundergut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        This wasn't your fault. The chick was into you, you paced yourself according to what she demonstrated she was comfortable with, and she wanted to fuck you.

        Her ex was being a jealous cunt and her sister/ friends were jealous and being her slut shields. Too bad women are not allowed to be horny in today's society.

        Keep doing your thing man you are killing it.

        [–]Lateralanouncer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Ex boyfriend, your such a slut. Girl, it wasn’t my fault he put his hands there Her girl freind, after ready many articles on Facebook assumed u were a sexual predator as u wanted sex.

        They all said oh my god you poor thing.

        Then you became the target.

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        [–]econquest 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Nice analysis.

        What does A&M mean?

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        [–]rcsob 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        I've made this mistake when I'm drunk. Over escalating makes everyone uncomfortable. Stay relatively tipsy, not drunk.

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          [–]rcsob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Tbh I've been chosen as a sober bro to keep everyone safe at a frat party and pulled

          [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

          Once western civilization collapses and civil war begins, men who do or the bidding of the feminists will meet a horrifying end. I actually feel bad for them. They will be purged for doing nothing more than following their programming. They will be dragged through the streets and beaten senseless. Their bodies will fill mass graves from sea to shining sea.

          I don't know if this will happen in 20 years or 200 years (probably closer to the latter), but it will happen. I don't know if it will be Western men who wake up, or imported foreign men who simply refuse to submit to women (probably the latter). I don't know what will take the place of the current system. All I know is that if something is unsustainable, it must end. Sooner or later.