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MGTOWStop Being Afraid of Women (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 2chazthundergut

TLDR- If you want to succeed with women you will need to overcome your fear of them.

TRP is overflowing with men who are terrified of women. Here are the top reasons I see cited on TRP for this irrational fear:

  1. She might falsely accuse me of rape!
  2. She might become pregnant and then I'm on the hook for child support and a life of misery!
  3. She might divorce rape me and take all my money and drag my life into hell!

First of all, I am not dismissing these problems. They are all legitimate issues discussed here frequently and for good reason. We have all read the horror stories. But here's what is so disappointing to me about you boys is you can see the irrationality in women but not in yourselves. We are being just as solipsistic. Here is an analogy:

Woman: I might get raped! I'd better stay away from men!

TRPer: I might get divorce raped or falsely accused of rape! I'd better stay away from women!

When we see a woman using stories of rape as an excuse to fear men, we call her irrational. We tell her that if she uses simple precautions and keeps her wits about her she can avoid most of the risk. We tell her that most men are not rapists and with good judgment she can enjoy the company of men immensely.

Same thing for you guys. Your fear of chicks is irrational. If you use simple precautions and keep your wits about you you can avoid most of the risk. Most chicks won't falsely accuse a man of rape (unless her hamster is cornered so don't fucking corner her hamster). With good judgment you can enjoy the company of females immensely.

Besides the obvious precautions (condoms and good condom disposal, do not get married, don't stick your dick in crazy, etc.) here are some ways you can mitigate your risk so you can stop hiding from chicks:

  1. Stop acting so thirsty. There is no reason to pressure a chick or rush things. As a rule I do not have sex on the first date, and this really helps take the pressure off and let me connect more with a woman. Guys if you just relax and let her talk she will reveal herself to you. You will know if she's the type to accuse rape, especially if she brings up a past rape on the first date (NEXT). Just enjoy the date and let her feel your masculine frame no need to rush. You'll get it on the second or third date, you won't come across as needy or thirsty, and in fact you are taking the mindset of let me vet you more before sex I haven't decided if you pass yet ... this will eliminate most of the risk.
  2. No drunk or tipsy girls. What is your mindset? You a thirsty boy who needs to find a chick drunk enough to hook up with the likes of you? Or are you a relaxed, seasoned man who has a list of numbers and no reason to settle for sloppy drunk sluts? The first time you have sex with a chick, she should be sober and alert. One drink max. You get her drunk on your masculine energy and your shared horniness and eventually your dick. You don't need alcohol or drugs for that you thirsty bitches.
  3. Leave her hamster an escape route. Never corner a chick's hamster. Never make her feel slutty, especially among her friends. Never make sex with you a loss for her. Be discreet. After you've dicked her down and had her making animal noises into her pillow, give her a bit of tender aftercare. Post-coitus is a woman's most vulnerable state. Her body is reeling and her brain is swimming in hormones. Give her a little cuddle you autistic bastards. It feels great I promise. Then go put your pants on and tell her what a great time you had and how you've got to wake up early tomorrow but you're looking forward to seeing her again.
  4. Pace yourself one step ahead of her. This is something that is intuitive but autistic TRPers (the majority of you, from what I've seen) might need some work on this. Basically as the man it is your responsibility to lead the interaction towards sex. You need to make the move and sexualize the interaction. Chicks are just as nervous as we are about this, but with the added baggage of massive social pressure not to be sluts. However. You need to pace yourself. It is your responsibility to pay attention to the chick and recalibrate yourself accordingly. You touch her arm. Does she lean away or lean forward? Does she touch you back? These are the types of signals you need to pay attention to and always stay paced with the girl. If she did not respond positively to a touch on the shoulder, don't grab her tits. But if she fondles your dick then you'd better grab her ass and give it a hard squeeze. One step ahead.
  5. Respect her boundaries. If a chick ever says the word "no" or "stop" with me then that is it for the night. She gets another try next time, but after that it is NEXT. I know a lot of TRPers are good at beating LMR and getting the f-close. If you are good at that, then go for it. For me it is not worth it. I can have a chick over next week who doesn't have "no" in her vocabulary. Why would I waste my time trying to wiggle my way in between some chick's skinny legs for some enenthusiastic starfish sex? Not for me. If a girl says no or stop, respect her boundaries. Withdraw your attention and she will either come around or she isn't into you and you're better off having a threesome with two Brazilian escorts. Since they don't really wanna fuck you either. Or better yet go find a chick who says "yes!" the sex will be better I promise.

Also I would like to point out that the horror stories get kind of magnified by nature of who we are as a community. TRP is like a lightning rod for men who have been abused by women, so if you spend a lot of time here you will start to see things skewed (much like how feminists attract the worst stories of men constantly so their entire view of men is skewed)

That's all I got. And please no "I'm not scared of chicks I'm scared of the men with guns they can summon!" ... here is my response to that:

Your ancestors survived ice age and war and disease and starvation. Every one of them managed to figure shit out, fuck some bitches, and pass his seed on. And not one of them let another man prevent them from fucking women. Through 10,000 years of hell the torch of manhood has been passed from man to man, from father to son. And now the torch is in your hands and it is up to you. Do you sit out on the sidelines alone and miserable, jerking off to porn because you're scared of chicks? If you are the type of guy who won't chase women because you're afraid of what other men (gasp! even men with GUNS!!!) might do: good. Stay away from women altogether. Women are right not to fuck you; our species needs more men right now not girlyboys.

Sorry if the medicine was bitter, but some of y'all need to find your balls. Never be afraid of a bitch. Fundamentally, no woman will respect a man who fears her. She is a lioness and she is dangerous and must be treated with caution. But never forget: you are the fucking lion. Act accordingly.

Good luck fellas.


[–]plenty_of_eesh 75 points76 points  (8 children)

Funny, I'm rarely scared of any of those things... I thought this post was going to be about being afraid of women's rejection of me-- which is a real deal and often a blocker, the place I need the most work in my life!

[–]1swaglordobama 57 points58 points  (4 children)

Just say out loud to yourself "I don't care about rejection."

After each approach: "Nobody else had the balls to do that."

You can also reframe to rejection being education, every approach is a learning opportunity, it's just practice, etc.

Just saying that a lot will reframe it in your head, though.

Also when you go out you can "sacrifice a lamb" aka crash and burn a set or two intentionally to get you into that DGAF mindset.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Another idea;

Try to come up with 10 different ways you're guaranteed to be rejected and go use them for fun.

[–]jackandjill22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This sounds like fight club.

[–]ABlackKidOnTheNet 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you think its wrong to use ugly girls as practice?

[–]1swaglordobama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to truly be able to game high tier women then you have to see beyond appearance. 9s and 10s have a different reality of how the world works than 8s and 7s, 8s and 7s have a different reality than 6s and 5s, etc.

That being said, however, female psychology is largely the same around the board, so yes, you can "practice" on ugly girls, but do it to build momentum and have fun. You can also practice on hot girls. If you only game ugly girls you will level out on hotter girls. Each tier of woman requires different levels of integrity, value, comfort, etc to attract and bang.

Practicing on ugly girls will get you to a level where you are able to consistently date and fuck ugly girls. Practicing on average chicks yields the same results for their level of value, and the same goes for top tier women.

You have to be able to see past a woman's looks to form a genuine connection with her. Truly cool people really don't give a fuck about surface appearances, and instead look for good energy / vibe / personality in a person. This is especially true for beautiful women. They screen hard to see if you're being authentic or putting on an act. If you can have genuine fun with a 1, like a fat old bald smelly granny, you can have genuine fun with a 10.

Anyway, to summarize: yes, you can obviously practice on ugly girls, and if you're new and just not experienced with women in general, any exposure to female psyche is a good reference. However, if you're past the beginner phase, practicing on ugly chicks is not going to help you much. Just use them to pump emotions and get momentum on a night out.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s why you need to build self-confidence. Aka fucking lift phaggot

[–]hinge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a legitimate fear, but almost never does a woman saying "no" to you mean she is rejecting you personally. Would you feel rejected if you found out a girl was a lesbian, and not into guys? Why / why not? Some girls aren't into guys, some girls just aren't into /u/plenty_of_eesh 's .

It's never personal.

[–]confusedguy911911 33 points34 points  (5 children)

I have to chime in here and this will be a long rant I just can’t bite my tongue anymore.When I first came to the RP it was most likely for the same reasons most of you did ( being burned by some Woman).In my case it was a woman with bpd for most thankfully it was not but still everyone has had their issues and stories none better or worse than the next to each their own.

With that said I have seen that a lot of people completely miss the point of RP or Alpha status call it what you will.Yes there are a lot of “let’s bash woman they are evil and dangerous “ talk on here that makes guys feel good to say.Honestly it adds nothing of value except some sort of revenge for some pain you felt in the past , frankly get over yourselves it makes you into a poor victim frame and it’s sad to read.Ill sum up the parts of RP I accepted since I didn’t eat the whole pie either ( never will) .Anyone who hook line and sinker swallows any theory or way of life blindly has failed completely to understand RP and what it offers you.

RP = think for yourself for once.Build yourself up to be the best version (YOU) want to be ,not what anybody thinks you should be,it’s that simple.It covers all aspects physical ,financial,intellectual,emotional , be solid and have a goal path ,have purpose for yourself and execute it...period the end .Nowhere does it say bash woman or use them like meat and good luck finding a unicorn,nowhere. What RP is telling you is build your confidence and self esteem ,you will attract better for yourself .You will also have a solid frame that can sniff out trouble and avoid it because your mind will be centered and capable since you won’t live in the daily FOG everyone else lives in.Woman is just one tiny part of RP, the whole world is corrupted from globalists to social media etc etc. Read /study / learn these things and you will succeed , coming here to bash woman or glorify cheating on a LTR (you chose to be in) doesn’t boost your status to those who honestly don’t care to begin with. Sorry for the rant but couldn’t keep it in anymore.RP made me understand that most of the population of the western world are miserable because they lack purpose and most don’t even realize this in anyway.We are so pampered by our modern society that we get depressed and sad and goalless because there is no challenge to our comfortable lives .You think some poor smuck in Africa who walks 10 miles to get water and has to worry about being eaten by lions is depressed because he didn’t get laid last week? Or that he didn’t get likes on his Instagram pictures ? He just wanted to feed his family so they don’t die , he couldn’t care a less about our western society “problems” .Once you wake up , neither will you and everyday will become a challenge on what I can learn to be better .... woman aren’t the cause of our pain, welcome to life .

[–]Demiurge_Decline 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good post. This is what I get from TRP.

[–]Dunc0ne 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I live in South Africa. Even folks who live in the sticks worry about when and where they are going to sleep with somebody. It has nothing to do with your life situation, it has everything to do with what you do with it.

[–]DancesWithPugs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a fine rant. TRP isn't some social club or political party, just an internet forum. If you are just looking for a bunch of cool dudes to approve of you and your sexual victories, like you wished would have happened in high school or college, you haven't absorbed the main lessons or the purpose of the site. If you want to understand your life better you can apply the lessons and research that are relevant.

[–]palehorse4077 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Corp values of RP in my opinion also. I also encourage RPers to travel to a 2nd/3rd world country for a week vacation. Learn how insignificant your first world problems are compared to the rest of humanity. Im not saying the West should change, just experience an inferior culture to truly appreciate what a better culture has become.

[–]NealAMerr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, that rant was well articulated and it is exactly what I get out of TRP. Some guys on here that were hurt or emotionally abused by women forget that the women they seem to hate are human beings too. And while having frame, self confidence and taking care of your body are extremely important, it’s not a part of TRP to unnecessarily degrade another human... unless they like it that way ;)

[–]420KUSHBUSH 58 points59 points  (6 children)

With all the Asia Argento shit going on the fear of being falsely accused may greatly dissipate

With that being said, spot on risk mitigation tactics and spot on post. Couldn't have said it better myself. Set these tactics as your boundaries and you are bound to have a good time for a long time

Just because you walk into a minefield on your tippy toes doesn't mean you'll always end up blowing yourself to smithereens

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

To get the gold, you've got to navigate some dangerous waters. It's worth it though.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Equivalating gold to pussy is a beyond-generous metaphor.

[–]420KUSHBUSH 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Not always. That lack of guarantee is what offsets most. Either way one can always make an opportunity out of a precarious situation

[–]womans_algorithm 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Without risk there is no possibility of reward.

[–]kittyclaw200 1 point2 points  (1 child)

you are forgetting to factor in probability to your equation. 95% of the time you will make your small gains and be happy. Its the 5% of the time that you don't see coming that will erase all previous gains and most likely leave you with catastrophic losses.

Plus women are herd creatures. The herd is being pushed towards the "me too" mentality. That 5% is only going to keep rising in the short to medium term.

[–]womans_algorithm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was replying to his "That lack or guarantee is what offsets most.", not going into probabilities and statistics. There is no guarantee in life for anything, except death.

[–]RPmatrix 17 points18 points  (3 children)

She might falsely accuse me of rape!

She might become pregnant and then I'm on the hook for child support and a life of misery!

She might divorce rape me and take all my money and drag my life into hell

Not once in my life have I thought these things while picking up/banging some girl

One girl tried to lay the "I'm pregnant and it's yours" trip on me but I was 90% sure it wasn't and told her to deal with it as "it isn't mine". I never heard from her again

One thing I'd be well aware of is the 'spermjacking' that goes on, it's one thing that intensely pisses me off and I know too many women with teenage kids who are 'proud' of how they pulled it off!

I've had lots of women make comments to me about "having your babies" . . . I appreciate the warning and take high level prophylactic action!

just fubar, waay beyond 'hamstering', it's fucking psychotic!

[–]Blaze_Bless 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vasectomy bro, it's pretty awesome. Freeze some sperm and go forth!

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You've been lucky, I've seen it happen. I watch it happen to unsuspecting guys routinely on a daily basis.

[–]rKKKselected 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Fear is another word for respect. The more you respect women, the more they sense (correctly) that you fear them, and the more they will resent you. And try to punish you. So if you're scared, you should be.

Ever wondered why the #metoo shitstorm seems a lot more like an anti-semitic movement than an anti-black-rapper-gangsta-pimp movement?

The fewer fucks you give, the fewer fucks youll have thrown back to you.

[–]geo_gan 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Wow... that's an interesting picture. Maybe it's to do with the notion that most of Hollywood is controlled or run by Jewish men? Don't know how true this is, but could be part of it.

[–]rKKKselected 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Straight from the horses mouth... I wouldn't know anything about that though, as far as i'm concerned, all the races are exactly the same

[–]zestytacoz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The biggest chunk smacked by #metoo have been the "respec wahmen" crew

[–]taa1a 17 points18 points  (7 children)

Don't stick your dick in crazy

Legit question: why not?

[–]rKKKselected 71 points72 points  (1 child)

Because crazy may just turn around and decide to stick its dick in you.

[–]taa1a -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This isn't informative.

[–]Strike48 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Crazy chicks imo give some fucking good head and have some freaky kinks. I'm down for it. Guys get wrecked by these girls when they bail because they don't know how to set boundaries and then the whole "never fuck crazy lelele" stuff comes up. The trick is to be an authoritative figure for the woman. If she respects you, she won't throw a tantrum and fuck your shit up if you decide to move on.

[–]menial_optimist 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Keep dreaming buddy. You're in it for the good sex then she digs the condom out of the trash after you leave the room and impregnates herself. That's what crazy women do.

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

How can we answer this?

Crazy people are, by nature, irrational.

So who the fuck knows what she might do. She might call the cops after a rough session of sex and say you raped her for no reason. She might dig the condom out of the trash and impregnate herself. She might go through your phone while you are sleeping, get freaked out over a text from another girl, and decide to cut your testicles off with scissors. She might show up at your place of work screaming for you to come talk to her.

The point is, when you're dealing with crazy people there is no telling what they might do. And since it is impossible to prepare for every unforseen scenario, we use a shorthand rule instead:

Don't stick your dick in crazy

Do you get it you autistic bastard??

[–]taa1a 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's fairly helpful, thanks.

[–]eleven_sixtyone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jodi Arias

[–]iloveturks 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Excellent post mate.

Having been visiting here for several years and reading story after story of divorce rape, false rape accusations, physical confrontations with white knights, etc, I started thinking to myself “Jesus how the fuck did I dodge so many bullets, and when are the police going to come knocking on my door with the accusations of something I allegedly did years ago because some twat wants to have her metoo moment?”.

But upon reading this I’m reminded, I pulled all that shit off because I always kept my wits about me. What a shame it would be if I had lived my life in fear and paranoia, rather than through an enlightened perspective.

Look, we’ve all come across a crazy bitch or two in our time, but the value of this place is that it teaches us how to recognise, spot and avoid them, not get involved, having a kid and then two years later when your life is in shambles make a thread crying AWALT AWALT!!

[–]alexandria42o 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"never be afraid of a bitch."

favorite line in the post

I did not realize this was a huge issue, but I suppose I’d over look any man that would be afraid of women automatically

[–]1Jaereth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a good idea about not banging drunk chicks. Not because you are afraid of some repercussion, but just to show that you've really made it. Like you said, you don't need them to be drunk.

I remember when I went from looking for hookups at bars/parties where everyone was getting wasted (very unsuccessful/satisfied) to just trying to hook up with girls as I encountered them in life, outside of a "party" setting, the enjoyment factor went WAY up.

[–]Aktiv8r 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You wouldnt think that way if youd have had a false rape accusation already.

Been there... its not fun and worth every bit of precaution men take.

My list of things to hard next for gets longer seemingly every day.

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Care to elaborate for the benefit of our readership?

What were the warning signs?

What would you do differently?

[–]Rollo_Mayhem3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Stop acting so thirsty.

I cannot emphasize OP's first point enough. Acting thirsty suggests a lack of abundance and desperation. This is a massive turn-off. I have had girls over my place and get turned on when they see a stray bra in my bathroom behind the door that I missed or some glitter on my cheek from the previous date an hour earlier. You can literally see them get giddy and be like " I don't wanna know.." and they are batting their eyes and you push her down and dick her again. Girls are not dumb, they know if you are getting laid and especially if you are and they are in your place, they will smell the other girls or they will find the stray earing, bra, panties, hair, glitter.

They are turned on by all that>>>abundance.

[–]omega_dawg93 2 points3 points  (2 children)

a few quick comments... one a few of you guys will not like:

numbers 1 & 2 are EXTREMELY important. about #1: whatever you do, act like you've been there (sex). women receive dick pix and get asked about sex all the time by guys on social media, etc. you need to act like sex is just... whatever. my attitude towards new women is to talk to them and treat them like i've already fucked them... and they need to interest me further.

#2: do NOT stick your dick in a drunk or high female. if you pick her up in a club, bring her back to her girlfriends so they can take her home. leave your number with a few of her friends... telling them to call you once they've all arrived home safely. if she's drunk at your home, tuck her in, kiss her on the forehead and let her sleep on the sofa. do NOT leave her alone with other drunk people either.

last... stop being afraid of good-looking women. i have friends that would fight any one of you guys, would hunt wild boar barefoot, go noodling for catfish in a river, bungee jump, etc. but when it comes to approaching that cute lil blond at the grocery store, they're deathly afraid.

if she's female, affected by gravity & breathes oxygen, then she also farts and takes stinky shits during the day. she's human... APPROACH her. if you're nervous, let your nervousness show... don't try to hide it bc she's probably nervous too. she's not special because she looks good. most of the time, she takes a LOT of time trying to look good to make you think she's special. she's not.

[–]xiannnnnn 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Girls take stinky shits? Gross.

[–]SuperCrazy07 5 points6 points  (0 children)

now I really am afraid of women!

[–]fswnguy10 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not really being irrationally afraid of women. What I see is that men are cautious around women like they are with fire. If you spend enough time with women, as with fire, you are eventually going to be burned. Women are dangerous but that doesn't mean men are irrationally afraid of them.

[–]Ezaar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for outlining this and in this fashion.

[–]cumfortably_dumb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great post and the last para hit me real hard. Thanks.

[–]allo_pyaaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The ancestral anology is dope af. Thanks man

[–]friendlynaboureeno 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not afraid of women, but getting constantly rejected is a bitch! So I just spend my time doing other more important things

[–]conflagratorX 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It all boils down to risk benefit analysis.

Risk of being divorce raped is too high, consequences are too devastating and benefits are close to zero.

Women work hard to make marriage not worth considering now they are working hard to make sex not worth considering. Currently using mitigation strategies risk of being metoo'ed is still low (unless you are some celebrity) but who knows what future will bring.

[–]_MysticFox 4 points5 points  (0 children)

4) She'll destroy your reputation / kill your preselection with other girls

[–]itsallbasement 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing dude well put. This is the medicine for guys struggling to find their mojo and put on their game face. Girls like the guys who arnt eyeballing them like "i havent gotten laid in forever im going to try her." You have to make it about the girl, not you. As the man you help her solve her problems and get her life happy and full of animalistic godly sex that you provide. Its like the one beer after a long day of work. Goodluck gentleman be respectful

[–]gbdoragnic 1 point2 points  (6 children)

In other words, more garbage advice

> Stop acting so thirsty. There is no reason to pressure a chick or rush things.

Wanting to have just sex isn't thirsty, this is male shaming in a attempt to think what women want I had women want to have sex on the first date, and I'm not playing myself out of what I want to act as if sex means thirsty.

None of this is useful advice but more shaming into letting your guard down.

> Chicks are just as nervous as we are about this, but with the added baggage of massive social pressure not to be sluts

Yes women have it so hard we know, feminist, but in reality they don't want to seem like sluts to attract chad , slut shaming is a excuse they use to wear a mask of a lady but in reality it's because they want to put on a face.

> Just enjoy the date and let her feel your masculine frame no need to rush.

30 minutes, is all I need, but you are shaming and defining emotions one should have, rush, take chances, sit your limit, once again this article is full blue pill, but calls women bitches so it's edgy,

[–]2chazthundergut[S] -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Are you afraid of chicks dude?

[–]gbdoragnic 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Once again a common shaming tactic, I'm married, and your advice is plain blue pill, which is why it's being accepted, men respond well to shaming, it's part of their emotional damage.

Sex within 15 minutes isn't a rush, and you best believe if you aren't her type she isn't worth the wait, no women is worth the wait

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Why don't you give some redpill advice to set the record straight for these boys.

I see hundreds of guys on here who can't get laid at all, and you are saying: any strategy that takes more than 30 minutes to get your dick in her pussy is bluepill catering to women

I had a Puerto Rican undergrad gagging on my dick last night. And you are married. Half the men on here are terrified of women, and the comments section of TRP is filled with a circlejerk of panic about false rape accusations, divorce rape, alimony, etc.

So talk to these men. Help them by giving them the good advice. Let's hear it husband.

[–]gbdoragnic 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Love themselves, Which is very hard to do, in essence it's finding where nature ends and nurture begins , the nurture and the love we all hope to receive is in essence the blue pill.

The secret is being yourself, most will say this doesn't work but that's because they were never themselves, they were just like all the other guys, the chads, we aren't special.

tl;dr Just be your real self, which takes a lot of work to find

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Damn. Well you are actually right on the money and I agree 100%

I don't see how my advice was garbage or blue pill. Especially in the context of this is how you mitigate risk and overcome your fear of women

But whatever to each their own. Good luck.

[–]gbdoragnic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Most chicks won't falsely accuse a man of rape (unless her hamster is cornered so don't fucking corner her hamster)

there is a fine line between consideration and hesitation , when flowing and channeling your energy wearing a mask even if to prevent false rape reports is asking to much. Her hamster should be corner when it's the truth.

> As a rule I do not have sex on the first date, and this really helps take the pressure off and let me connect more with a woman.

On one hand this is your personal rule so it's not up for debate or criticism, but men their entire lives been told to take it slow , In my experience, moving fast and pushing for meet, 3-5 texts max, invite her back to your place has a high rate of success. A date now days is a 90-95% to get laid with very little effort.

I'm not a model looking, tall guy, just a AFC when it comes to looks, so I know this isn't a fluke or because I have good genetics, just normal basic human shit, she is horny, and there is no such thing as a lady

[–]MisterRoid 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I agree guys here are too scared of rape accusations. It seems like some don't realize it, but a rape accusation is something a woman won't do lightly unless she's mentally Ill, because having been raped, with the severe victim status that accompanies it, lowers her value. In the same way a guy don't want to talk about how he got his ass kicked.

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Men who are afraid of being falsely accused of rape are worse than women who are afraid of actually being raped.

Be smart. Take your time. Keep your wits about you.

But do it.

[–]Youngyoda89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll admit, I’ve never been accused of rape but, with this day in age and this new generation- the thought crosses my mind. Is this bitch gonna day I raped her bc I tried to talk to her?

[–]Cloud809 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All that isn't worth the trouble for a bitch, I say just fuck, use protection and keep going. Don't get married, dont play mind games and dont give a fuck.

[–]joltek 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Not afraid of women.. Women are just not worth my time and effort.

It's like saying. "You don't like people shitting on your dinning room table because you're afraid you might like eating shit."

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The difference is that carrying a gorgeous woman over my shoulder, tossing her on the bed, and drowning myself in her pussy before fucking her like an animal is waaaay more intrinsicially rewarding to me as a man than having someone shit on my table.

Your analogy is terrible.

[–]MordecaiMaxwell 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Most people are not afraid because of the reasons you state. They are because they think women will judge them. On anything really, that irrational fear that she will laugh at you, for example. These kinds of stuff can ruin your self-image if your frame is shit.

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I actually agree with you about "Most people are not afraid because of the reasons you state."

The reasons I stated are the reasons given by them on TRP. These are the reasons most often cited by TRPers on why they avoid women.

In my opinion, it has a lot more to do with lack of success or positive exposure. The whole she will accuse me of rape! thing is, in my opinion, male hamstering to protect men's egos from something else.

But I figured that is a subject for a different post.

[–]lonelystar82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great read! Possibly sidebar worthy!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow this was a wake up call. Thank you.

[–]WholesomeAwesome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has nothing to do with survival.

Unless actual children come out of it

[–]MarketingMachine9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think point #3 is by far the most important one!

[–]DancesWithPugs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>"Never corner a chick's hamster."

I have made this mistake far too many times. Expecting some reasonable level headed response during an argument or complaint session. Nope.

[–]toolate4redpill 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The big mistake young guys make is they don't talk to enough women, especially talk to women you have no intention of fucking. Small talk. That's all. Develop a personality! If you are calm and easygoing talking with the older woman at the grocery store, you won't be a tongue tied simp when your target approaches. I can't stress how vital this is.

I mostly lurk here but I'm a 5'9", "average" guy who's been married 3 times, was a swinger for over twenty years, and have some of the wildest sex experiences you've ever heard. HOW???? Personality. If you are a good conversationalist and have a personality you'd be shocked at how many doors open up for you. No shitty pick up lines either, if you play your cards right the woman will come to you. The online world isn't the real world.

[–]2chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also they don't talk to enough women who are attracted to them.

Inexperienced men should start with the 5's and 6's. Don't have sex if you dont want to, but do practice flirting and chatting them up.

If you practice running game on chicks who are super into you, you'll see how a high-SMV man is treated by all women.

It is crazy. You realize how little game you actually need. Just be high-value and keep breadcrumbing your validation without ever fully giving it to her. Just as you would an ugly chick.

Game becomes so easy. Also once you get a taste of what its like to be treated like a King, you will want to invest your time and energy into building your kingdom. This is the true gold of TRP. Become the prize.

Also side note- the online world is even easier. If you think about it from the chick's perspective and craft your profile accordingly, you can get a rotation going pretty quickly. It is all about the pictures. Make your messages short, meaningful, and infrequent. Be attractive and demonstrate an attractive lifestyle. It is just the same as real life but easier. Stop chasing the fish and start turning yourself into a sparkly fucking lure it works boys I promise! Become the prize!!

[–]MilkroTik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by Never corner a chick's hamster.? I don't understand this at all.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

unless her hamster is cornered so don't fucking corner her hamster

Sun tzu said : always leave your enemy a planned outlet (give her plenty of plausible deniability to retreat to) and crush them(fuck her) while they run through it. It is easier to kill a fleeing enemy than one who's back is against the wall.

[–]sciroccomindrape0087 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post is pure cuckery. Don't be afraid of women. Learn to mind rape them. Learn the game. Break their esteem. They will become desperate to pleasure you in every way possible. If you don't believe me, look at Keith Raniere. The guy fucked wealthy, young rich girls on tap. The same applies to any cult leader. Women don't want a snivelling bitch who consideres their "safe space". They want to be ravaged and dominated by a man with frame.

Femininity is emotional nonsense. Ultimately women want to be led. Just as the weak naturally look to the strong. You don't need to be afraid of them. Learn to mind rape and then they will willingly submit. When you do you will be able to have your own harem of women just competing for your validation.

Alternatively, you could just hire a hooker.

Either way the worst thing you can do is pander to a woman.

[–]rebdomine224 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not afraid of women. I simply just don’t like them as people. I have yet to meet a women i want to spend any time out of bed with. They’re really just walking sex toys imo lol

[–]BostonPillParty -4 points-3 points  (7 children)

get a vasectomy to take care of #2. Seriously it’s great.

[–]rKKKselected 15 points16 points  (0 children)

yes goy, castrating yourself is the true redpill

[–]Disobedient_Citizen1 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Are you aware of the repercussions of having a vasectomy? They manifest 5 to 10 years after the procedure. Look it up.

[–]Pestilence1911 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know a guy that got snipped, hes currently the BB, sleeps on the couch, bought his wife a new van, and paid for two sets of braces, and all the other expenses of raising another mans four children.

If he took the redpill he would probably hang himself. Poor bastard. Hes a nice guy though!!!

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    [–]universalabundance1 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

    Get your shit together, pussies.