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Breakdown: A Married Man breakdown of a breakdown of being a married man (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone

Here. The idiot put a NSFW tag, so archive fucks the archive up

There is generally two types of comments attached to a post like this. Either calling him a piece of shit, or offering engineering advice on how to tune up the wife until she's purring like a kitten. Add a little self reflection-lite, where people say they ain't gonna touch women totally because they don't want this to happen to them and ya got yourselves a very useless lesson learned on all accounts.

First off, if you're shaming OP for being an asshole, do you know who we are?

Aparently we are a rape, divorce, and incel factory of van renters. If you can't vent and say some mean shit here, where the fuck else can we? Most of the problems with toxic masculinity™ today are a man with few to options to vent, and too many options to be backed into a corner. Don't be part of the problem, OP knows it's a socially unacceptable set of feelings opinions, and desires. Just because you want to appease your ego by telling him what a good person you are, doesn't mean anyone has to put up with it. I've seen a lot of the names disappeared, kudos to the modteam.

Something to think about, this guy has literally no where else to go with this. Let that sink in. A woman has medical help family, social circles, oprah... you name it. He has a bunch of dudes who will tell him to man up, and then internet randoms.

something to think about

For those telling him how to fix a broken body, you're missing the point.

When you read his post, does it sound like her body is why he is falling out, or is it the post-hoc rationalization? Maybe it's because I've read the same story 300 times already over at MRP it stands out to me. He didn't fall out of love because her body fell out, he fell out of love because she was an insufferable cunt. Now, for some nuance, and I really want to articulate this. It's not his fault, fault is what children and women wonder about. It's not his fault, but it is his responsability. I remember hearing that as a brand new MS in the RCN, at the time I took it to mean I was going to get shit on a lot more (and I was). but since then I get it. People will fuck up, it's on you to fix it, because you are invested in the outcome.

Not his fault, but his responsability

What does he want, what do you want?

Thats the big question. We all know how she treated her 20s is reflected on how she looks in her 30s. I don't buy the 'she had kids, accept she will always look like the dude in robocop who got hit by the car dude'. I see plenty of women who keep it together after many kids. not 20-and-single-tight, but fuckable enough with some mood lighting. The question is, why does she not feel the need to? Why did he put up with that? Those are the questions you should look at OP's post with. OP is too busy feeling sorry for himself to ask them for himself, this is where we failed him.

The cycle is fairly well known Grab the highest quality man you can find (at that time), get yours, then slowly start to get more entitled, treat him like shit, then move onto something else once there's a better option. It's their MO, cant fault them for acting like they act. Forgive them Brodin, for they know not what they do. OP says he's in shape, but I guarantee he has no game, and hasn't practiced in years. He build up a covert contract, a horrible thing we do, where we assume that by doing [x] the other person will step up and to [y], just because we have a logical path in our head. Then they don't and we get frustrated. You can't build up a mental pile of shit then hand it off for the other person to deal with, especially chicks. They would rather nuke it all than put up with a whiney dude talking shit.

Know which chicks stay in shape? generally, it's ones who know if they don't their man will get some strange, or get the fuck out. OP, I guarantee, believes he will never leave, and subcommunicates it accordingly... that is why she gives no fucks, theres no concequences to doing otherwise. Yeah, it sucks for the kids, I've been one of those divorce kids. They can read rollo, and dad can work on them once they are old enough to realize mom isn't helping them. If I can get over my chip on my shoulder over my stepdad as a promise keeper then I guarantee you don't have an excuse. You're the only one who will ever wipe your ass, time to start looking out for that guy, because he won't be around forever.

And what does he want? If he had a goal, he could work towards it. If the wife's bullshit is unworkable, he would be in great shape, learn some game, and either get a side piece or a divorce, along with all the planning, resources, and acceptance of loss that come with it. If he wanted to fix his relationship (PROTIP:Not your job, and you couldn't anyways) he would build himself into him 2.0, a man with options, abundance, and value... Then notice a lot of people in his life either wither away, or start acting right.

but he's not doing either. He's Robert Paulson, asking if he can cry now. the reason you percieve the whole tone of his post as whining and impotant is because it is.

There's a reason people say LTR's are game on hard mode, it's because you aren't running a sprint, and you can't LARP, you should have internalized your game by now, and it comes naturally. She's running on autopilot, and if you're used to game in 8 hour bursts, once a week, you're going to burn out.

For someone in OP's situation, the best roadmap,

here

  1. You ain't shit, and thats OK

  2. you shouldn't be making big decisions, build some value that others want, then let THAT man decide

  3. The problem may be you're a whiney bitch, it may be because she's a useless cunt. Only way to know for sure is to assume the former at first. Once you're sure it's not the former, then you know what you have to do

  4. If you don't know what you want, don't be surprised if you can't work towards a desired end state

At this point, I've linked an entire sidebar of crap. there's a reason you shouldn't cry about shitty women. as a man, you know, their fault, your responsibility. If piece of shit women are acting a piece of shit to you, it's because you've let them, and failed in holding a frame. Deal with that, and you'll start to see a lot of bullshit go away.


[–]Cloudsurf89 237 points238 points  (20 children)

I share a lot of these sentiments.

Too many keyboard warriors come on here to get a kick out of delivering the same abusive shit to guys who are genuinely reaching out in desperation.

"STFU and lift, faggot." "GTFO - stop being a pussy, man up!" "Go read the fucking side bar."

I'd go so far as to say we should be like oak to each other. Yeah they may not have read the side bar, yeah they might have completely missed the point - but when your wife is foaming at the mouth and your life as you know it is hitting the fan, a few supportive words and then being calmly pointed in the right direction can really make a big difference.

This is a brotherhood - be the big brother to the lost boys.

[–]Blaze_Bless 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Well put, stronger advice than narrow minded, butthurt, knee jerk comments

[–]SasquatchMcKraken 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Granted some dudes need the abuse, but I've always thought husbands need a lighter touch than some clueless 21 year old having gf issues. Marriage is the big leagues, especially when kids are involved. Retroactive scolding with a healthy side of venom doesn't do shit for these men. So many forget that part of diagnosing a situation is providing support and solutions. Imagine if doctors looked at middle aged patients and simply went "lol should've been healthier when you were younger bro!" No fucking point in going to the professionals then, is there?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You have it all wrong. Lighter touches are when someone establishes they aren't wasting your time attempting to help them (and learn more about your self through the process)

The easiest way to find which you're dealing with is to prod, call him a faggot, be a little vulgar. If he can't hold it together on a random internet comment, you can guarantee he can't hold it together in real life, and whatever issues a mans post have pale in comparison to their inability to 'adult'.

[–]seeforce 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You’re right man, almost everyone ends up here because of a crisis

[–]FMIBMW 18 points19 points  (1 child)

I believe it is a maturity aspect to TRP - which is a complete husk of what once was a great place to vent, post progress, get advice, and make dreams come alive with the right tools.

TRP has turned into a 24/7/365 bitter spergfest of the same shit repeated over, over, over, over, and OVER. You also have a mix of incels, MGTOW, and other toxicity into the cocktail too.

As a single father to a 4 month old it is really appalling how fucking retarded some of the content is on here. When you become a parent, shit really changes you especially if you are up against the kangaroo family extortion court system. You can't just mope around crying "why me" or some 14 page rant about how some hoe who was never capable of loyalty burned you.

As men it is our duty to figure out solutions and implement them at full RPM. There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for help when in times of need/confusion however once the help/advice is given it is YOUR job to execute. There is one thing that TRP often hides in the shadows: sometimes the best thing to do is push down the TNT handle and restart from scratch. Sometimes shit just gets too fucked up and a clean slate is the only way to salvage your sanity. That is why changing jobs, moving to a new place, having "fuck you" money, ditching boat anchor "friends", quitting porn/jacking off 10 times a day, and so forth is the only way to go.

I am rambling a bit here but it's really not that hard. Ditch the toxic shit dragging you down (a vile woman, shitty job, loser friends, etc...) and bring in the positive (gym, studying rational male, reading, learning something new, and beyond) Making positive steps will increase your chances of bringing in positive. Nothing in life is guaranteed even if you pull the right strings

[–]FerrusMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Man you hit the nail right on the fucking head, husk is right. Used to be guys could come on here, maybe complain or whine, maybe get a 2x4 to the head, but underneath it all was an understanding of new guys learning red pill truths for the first time, and teaching them why. It's a hard thing to come to grips with. Now it's just go lift bro, all your problems will be solved. Christ I remember the post telling people to take psychedelic drugs and all the positive votes and comments. I think when they started banning red pill questions here, and forcing people over to ask trp that was the big downturn.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 44 points45 points  (7 children)

to be fair to them, after the 500th guy asking for a shortcut/handout without even taking the least bit of effort on his part...

I mean, it's not like there's no reason to say lift faggot

[–]Cloudsurf89 17 points18 points  (2 children)

A fair point so yes, a thoughtful approach is then be needed: Are they at crisis point? Or are they just not making an effort?

Some seem to just be seeking that gratification from 'being right' in dishing out their hardline abuse, backed up by others jumping on the bandwagon.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I got no time, energy nor patience to pet everybody before telling them that they are lazy disrespectful assholes for not even following the very few rules we have in our subs.

If you aren't willing to put in at least a little bit of effort in order to find a solution for your problem yourself, by using the search funktion and reading the introductory posts as well as stickies i.e. in askTRP, I don't give a fucking shit about "supporting" them with useless and needless words.

One of the biggest problems in this world is that people are pampered and put into cotton wool. Fuck that shit. People constanly doing that is what made you a pussy in the first place and ultimately made you come here.

If I just continue what the rest did, I am no better. I tell you how it is: You are a lazy motherfucker who loves to stay in his comfort zone, which is the root of your problems, and the sooner you realize it and act upon it, the better for you.

The path is clearly laid out for: Read the sidebar and lift. The rest will follow. Come back and ask for advice on certain points. Until then, bye.

[–]dulkemaru51 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I mean, it's not like there's no reason to say lift faggot

Sure, but you're always condescending. It's as if you let other people's beta bumps get to your head.

[–]Persaeus 1 point2 points  (2 children)

the salt is intended to test OP's frame; and show him how weak it is. if you can't handle some "condescending" from internet randos; you don't stand a chance in LTR

the sooner OP gets past his own fragile ego, the sooner his life will improve.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yup, don't take it personal, it's just a hobby

[–]dulkemaru51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea if the move's all that calculated, but maybe you're right.

Compare for example Jesse Lee Peterson and Molyneux; both are dead certain about the things that they preach, but one is cold as hell while the other acts like a spiteful, fat witch with green hair. One type of frame seems much more masculine than the other. Hope that explains my initial observation.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

True enough. And after I've finished lifting thousands of pounds of weight.. no woman is able to shake my frame. After 2.5 hours of MMA kickboxing and boxing and a nice cold shower... no woman can shake my frame and if my life is truly falling apart, I'll sit for a moment, breathe, and put it back together.

Thats the power of lifting my brother.

[–]satlinrabbow 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Nah son, you really need to lift.

You havent read askTRP long enough to realize that enough people need a kik in the ass rather than "brother hood"or whatever the fuck you mean by that. We basically have all the cheat codes laid out here and people STILL dont get that simple baseline of "lift, dont take shit from women, and work on yourself" It takes a year and a half to two years of lifting just to START, THEN you have to work on IDGAF attitude, abundance mentality by talking to lots of women, which is BEHIND getting the rest of your life in order.

it is a long journey, and lifting and not being a faggot is just the start. if people cant do that or hamster that "all trp talks about is lifting, woe is us who dont want to" "Or trp is more than lifting waah waah waah" (no shit, but its pretty much the answer to 90% of ask trp problems) OR the ""I want to bang this hot chick at my job, trp what should I do?0o0o???"" which is what you're doing in this comment Cloud, You miss the point, and are doing men a disservice by demonizing those who are giving the best advice out there for where 90% of people are at. Real men tell you to do shit you dont want to do, in a tone that you dont agree with, get the fuck over it, this isn't nursery school where we have to consider your feelings, this is the real.

The answers are out there, and they are pretty much the same, lift, frame, approach, do, learn.

Hell, Even I have JUST started to have that IDGAF mindset sink in little by little, and ive been hearing it for a long time. and Yes I lift, I add that to my approaches and date a new girl at LEAST once every two weeks, Am I drowning in pussy? no. Am I learning and getting better and working on other things in my life to improve it? Yes. Am I sad or crying because someone on the internet told me in a not so nice tone to get my shit together? No Im not.

If a man can't handle "abusive shit"(your words) on the internet, then maybe that man was meant to be culled by the cold hard realities of life darwinian style. Nature (and hypergamy) DOESNT GIVE A SHIT about your God Damn feelings. Only each individual can do that. If that individual can't handle "rude" people on the internet, then maybe they weren't fit for the life that they want. They surely can't handle women who are a lot more cold and calculating and . . ."abusive"(i.e. follow the rules of nature/biology)than rude words on the internet are. If the men who find this place cant succeed, then they were never meant to.

However, if a man is motivated, inspired, angry, energetic enough to fight against the odds stacked against them, well they may still fail, but tryning and failing is still better than just giving up altogether. If those men succeed then, all that much better then.

So no, trying to shame men for telling people to do the BASICS(key word for when you inevitably miss the point)is silly, and should be met with thunderous shouts of "fuck off" instead of 100+ upvotes of hurt fee fees

[–]impuls1ve3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nice to see some positivity getting upvoted

[–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a few supportive words and then being calmly pointed in the right direction can really make a big difference.

I have to 100% disagree. I believe your words come from a place of wanting to honestly help, but they are wrong for getting someone's attention when that someone needs to be slapped in the face.

Be honest, what desperate, distraught, delusional person have you ever met that Listened and Followed "calm" advice?

I understand there is a difference between whining like a hungry dog and somebody genuinely holding their hand out asking for the pill. Treat them like grown men, not children.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV 48 points49 points  (2 children)

He got a specialized breakdown of his post - lucky man

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It wasn't for him, he doesn't want a fix, he wants a coping strategy.

This is for me to write down what I've learned, and for others to get a good perspective on these scenarios.

But I got Reddit good, so I guess that's pretty cool

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Obviously his post was representative enough and when Stone wrote he read it about 300 times already he wasn’t exaggerating

[–]1Noblefiz 57 points58 points  (5 children)

Yes. Women act in all sorts of, at least what seems to the uninitiated man, irrational ways. But when we understand their natural drives and motives behind what they do, it falls on us men who do know what goes on behind the scenes to maintain control of the ship.

It’s like being the captain of the ship and then having your first mate start fucking up their job and instead of fixing their mistakes and whipping them into shape, you go and whine the rest of the crew about what a shitty job they’re doing.

I also agree that having a place to vent is important. And not to shame MasculineHapa but if he doesn’t have a tight circle of trusted confidants then he needs to get on that ASAP. And building that circle also falls squarely on his shoulders.

Alsways appreciate the work. Keep it up

[–]Lontar47 25 points26 points  (1 child)

> I also agree that having a place to vent is important. And not to shame MasculineHapa but if he doesn’t have a tight circle of trusted confidants then he needs to get on that ASAP. And building that circle also falls squarely on his shoulders.

The most successful men are surrounded by other men whose input is helpful and unapologetic. Fishing for what you *want* to hear is a woman's game. Men seek out what they *need* to hear.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fishing for what you want to hear is a woman's game. Men seek out what they need to hear.

The underlying biological reality which forces this situation is exactly why the sexes are not meant to be equal.

[–]hulk_hogans_alt 12 points13 points  (2 children)

It's getting harder and harder for a man to find a tight circle that isn't cucked. Especially as we age. I'm in my 30s and most of my former friends would run to their wives if I told them the sort of stuff I read here. And it's not bad stuff but societal programming is a bitch.

Edit: to be clear, they're still my "friends", but I only have a few trusted confidants these days. None of them are women anymore of course (learned that lesson a bit late in my 20s).

[–]DeepReindeer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Tis true, Hulk. I don't really say much to most of my friends. I've only red pilled two men, one when he was entering a divorce and the other when he was about to put a ring on a single mom. Felt like I had to with those guys. To their credit they swallowed it down and are living good lives now. My other friends don't have a clue. They honestly couldn't handle it and would run to their wives to validate.

[–]hulk_hogans_alt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's sad but what are you gonna do. For the more cucked dudes you gotta drop little hints here and there over time.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 24 points25 points  (15 children)

[–]FuckYouIAmDrunk 9 points10 points  (8 children)

The guys post isn't perfect, but yours definitely isn't either.

His post gives some great insight into a shitty situation and how he ended up there, and is a warning of what not to do. I found it very useful.

Your post on the other hand is bashing this guys life while promoting your crappy PUA seminar and rehashing the same stuff that gets repeated here weekly. You tell him to take responsibility and stop "whining", but the guy has three kids who he loves. It's not so simple.

Don't hate the messenger, just calling bullshit when I see it...

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Look friend, you seem angry enoughy about it that you want to sling shit, you're emotional response is not my problem. If you took this as bashing his life I don't know what to tell you... Perhaps it's better if I kiss his dick and tell him how great a man he is?

He's got kids... He's got a wife he hates... Either he hates this situation enough to do something about it or he doesnt, crying about it solves nothing. What you consider great insight is cries about the world done me wrong and that impotent crybaby attitude is why so many men are fucking up right now. And no one's buying the "don't be like me" bullshit, telling everyone his life is over and this sucks isn't insight.

Nevermind this will be the relationship model the kids are raised with, never mind children like this are the type of adults that end up here with distinction all kids.

Because a woman who wants kids had kids, and he needs to pray to the golden vagina for all his bountiful gifts of a nagging Battle Axe and a life of quiet desperation.

I say this not because I'm angry that you're shitting on someone else's event that I go to, unpaid, just to help other guys. Not because you don't like me.but it's because you're objectively part of the problem.

[–]FuckYouIAmDrunk 5 points6 points  (6 children)

He wasn't being a cry baby, he was sharing a valuable life lesson on marriage and how he messed up.

The first step to improvement is figuring out past faults, no need to bash him for not ending his posts with lifting and getting hot plates.

[–]Persaeus 3 points4 points  (3 children)

he was sharing a valuable life lesson on marriage and how he messed up

lol, a life lesson for retards maybe. although a minority, plenty of men have hot mama's that fuck them on the regular. 80/20 applies across the board. only thing of value is how to be in the 20.

[–]FuckYouIAmDrunk 1 point2 points  (2 children)

With that attitude you'll be forever destined to mediocrity while patting your self on the back and thinking you're hot stuff, which is the worst kind of mediocrity because everyone still knows you're an insecure twat at the end of the day.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he's put over a year of what he's done in RP threads, from lifting numbers to relationship issues. Not very insecure to put it all out there for anyone to scour and look for fault.

What the fuck have you done, other than point and sputter?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

why do you keep calling this bashing op?

Also, what lesson did you take from this?

EDIT: Crickets on what he learned.

[–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I freely admit it. It's like I am a married man, faithful to a fault, dutiful. And yet I was cucked, not by any other man, but by Mother Nature itself. And by society's unrealistic expectations.

That IS crybaby.

Learn to read an entire post. His TLDR section includes his "poor me" speech about how he is destined to the same pussy till his death.

Complaining about how you messed up is ... drumroll... complaining.

"OH MUH GAWD, schoolz never taught me dat womenz get fat and babies ruin their bewbies".

[–]ahackercalled4chan 15 points16 points  (2 children)

i was hoping you or /u/MrChad_Thundercock would make a post about that. all his post was was victim puke. he fails to see that he's not leading his family, nor setting boundaries on his wife's behavior.

[–]kril89 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'll be honest look at his post history, something about his life and story doesn't add up. He has already cheated on his wife according to his post history. Something just seems off I'm going with he's made up a lot of his stories.

[–]MasculineHapa 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Thank you for your insights and the links you provided. I appreciate it. I have a lot of things to read and a lot of things to realise. I understand how my post came across, for a large portion, as self-pitying. I was venting, yes, and I didn't come out of the whole thing looking very good.

I think part of my reason for writing my post in the first place, perhaps the biggest reason, was to serve as a bit of a cautionary tale for men younger then me, regarding the state of marriage and what it can do to a woman and her attitude. And what it can do to you, as a man. And I wanted people to know how badly women can be damaged by the effects of ageing and pregnancies. I noticed too many older members of the sub, men who would describe themselves as woke as can be, who would still frequently praise the bodies and looks of women past a certain age. The ones who "took care of themselves". It's just a coping mechanism. They still got hit by the same freight train of age. They still got ruined in some ways. You just got older, complacent and less picky. And, more importantly, you like the woman.

You are right to assume in your breakdown that my wife's attitude makes me less tolerant of her flaws and look at her far more unkindly, even when it comes to her physical flaws. But even if she was perfectly kind and understanding and downright awesome in every other way... I still wouldn't be able to ignore those flaws and I could still feel my attraction go down the drain the same way. A lot of men just age and their preferences and standards go down as they go along, but mine haven't changed much and I think that's making me look at her this way. I cannot trick myself into thinking I'm lucky for having her when I know for a fact that I could be waking up to a hotter and younger specimen if it weren't for her.

A lot of men are simply not aware of those things. There's this ongoing belief that if you found "a great one" you will continue to be satisfied by her in every way for a lifetime. Or even just for a decade or so. But in my experience this isn't the case, everyone, no matter how great, deteriorates and you will always want more even if you settle down and are happy on the surface. There's always this thing called instinct and it's calling you elsewhere, distracting you from what you have. And the call gets a lot stronger when the woman you're with is a cunt a lot of the times.

[–]NormalAndy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I fancy we'd all rather now hear about the success when you turn this story around. 'How I Fucked Up' is not a great set of instructions.

I look forward to it! Best of luck.

[–]Venicedreaming 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Honestly I don’t know what that dude is pining on about. He no longer finds her attractive and holds contempt for her. Vice versa. They’re not gonna last regardless of how he feels or what he does about the situation. And she still sounds hot enough to land another provider. His kids are gonna be in world of shit though once the fall out happens. Poor family environment where parents are in contempt of each other never give the kids a fair chance at life. That’s why when you choose to raise a family you choose the right mates who hold his/her family’s well beings and peace above their own selfish desires. That’s the foundation of a good family and well adjusted kids. That’s how it has always worked in the past until recent history

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's all beside the point. He's not happy, and has no idea how to become so.

The rest is post hoc rationalization.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillcad 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The other day a single mom friend of my wife's told her about a bad date she had. I'll save you the details but its rough out there was communicated and later that night I got a sweet BJ and had pussy dripping sex.

Your woman should always feel that it's all downhill from here. There is no relaxing and enjoying the matrimonial bliss and gaining 30 pounds and losing your edge.

That's what makes married women happy That's what makes married men happy.

Women dont want to win, they want a winner

[–]Endorsed ContributorTaipanshimshon 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I read his posts. He had some basic insight.

But he forgot that even a fat woman who shows she cares about a man will get him to fuck her without feeling disgusted.

I remember being where he was , roughly.

Luckily I realized that it’s my fault for being in a situation where a woman did not feel the need to do her best to keep me.

Luckily I’m not a faggot.

Cheers Navy

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Been a while scurve!

[–]Endorsed ContributorTaipanshimshon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah man. Felt like I was repeating myself.

[–]TheBadGoy 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The most shocking realization for married men is the fact that women will never take responsibility for their actions, the way they look, and the way they behave, leaving them trapped with a cunt the rest of their lives.

[–]donedreadpirate 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I read it and it was basically the same shit we've all read on askMRP a million times.

It's like I am a married man, faithful to a fault, dutiful. And yet I was cucked, not by any other man, but by Mother Nature itself. And by society's unrealistic expectations.

This part says it all. Weak. He's basically admitting to falling for the joke, and then blaming the world for it. Same old story. Mother Nature didn't cuck him. Mother Nature wants him to sleep with beautiful, young women. He's living in societies' frame. I think it's called TBP or something? He's half-in on accepting sexual dynamics:

I am very much in favor of a great many of the things you say.

Then he goes on to talk about how hot he is or whatever:

At thirty I look better than I ever did. I'm fitter, more in shape, more muscular and overall more attractive than I was when I first married

Anyway, long story short, a hawt guy with high sex drive would just be slamming side girls and doing what he needed to, to keep the family together, if that were important to him.
 
Side note, I got a kick out of all the (probably) 20-something year old faggots with no wives or children trying to give this guy advice about his wife fulfilling her biological duty and his somehow being obligated to tolerate a shitty life because of it.

[–]Persaeus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got a kick out of all the (probably) 20-something year old faggots

sort of, more like barfing and then eating it

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (12 children)

And honestly she did what we all say is ideal at least from a biological perspective...she gave him children.. she gave him her virginity ... she never strayed... and this is how he repays her LOL

[–]Killing__Time_ 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I agree, but prepare to get crucified haha. Lot's of idiots hanging around.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

As she should, this is telling him to 'get back in his lane' with some kind of false moral highground.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 2 points3 points  (9 children)

They aren't his children, and you don't get to brag over shit you were going to do anyways. Now, if she didn't want kids, and had them becuase he wanted them, then maybe you'd have a point, but we both know she was going to do it regardless...

she gave him her virginity ... she never strayed... and this is how he repays her LOL

Being unsatisfied with your life has nothing to do with this.

[–]FuckYouIAmDrunk 6 points7 points  (2 children)

They are his children though...

You talk about taking responsibility as a man, but then tell the guy to abandon his children whom he probably loves... seriously?

Seems like you are over-compensating for your own immature boy tendencies and trying to promote your crappy PUA seminar while putting down someone elses advice for not being perfect.

[–]modRedForEducation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OP. Walk it back or you're out of here, only warning.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I would love to rebut your argument, But you can barely formulate your own argument! I can’t make sense of what you’re saying. LOL...

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

lol, omg amirite?

look cunt, only a basic bitch would think to do what she wants to do, and consider it a favour for everyone else.

sidebar, once you understand what I mean when I say briffaults law, a covert contract, theres no point.

if you just want to run your mouth,head off to purplepilldebate, they love to circle jerk about how great women are

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    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    They aren't his children

    So you have a DNA test of his kids?

    and you don't get to brag over shit you were going to do anyways.

    Huh??

    [–]ep1939 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    he fell out of love because she was an insufferable cunt

    Dunno man.

    The entire story is: I liked her cause she was so hot. I don't like her anymore cause she ain't hot anymore.

    OP really feels so incoherent.

    She gets pregnant for a mistake, she marries her. Why? He didn't have to marry her.

    Well, let's say he still wanted a family with her and he does.

    Why have another child? There isn't a single part of that post where OP seems so interested in having babies.

    He complains about her body getting worse after the second kid, he complains about her change in character, and what he does?

    He gets her pregnant a third time.

    Let's face reality: that op is dumb as fuck.

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    OP really feels so incoherent.

    yeah, because it's not about what he's talking about. check his followup in this thread, even he admits it.

    It's because of the behaviour. Shes frustrated, taking it out on him, he resents her for the behaviour and detaches

    it's a feedback loop. And since women can't be arsed to do shit when they feel something, it's all on him. He can either boot her to the curb and not do the same thing with the next girl, or he can stay, build up some DNGAF, let her nag to her friends instead of him, and do the dad thing.

    and yes, he's letting life happen to him, and not doing things to affect his life, you've distilled down the point to it's core

    [–]a_crapybara 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Man, thank you. I thought I was taking crazy pills when I read the comments on that post.

    [–]SecretRedditLife22 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    The last link was a really good read, just got distracted by all grammatical errors..

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It's my speech transcript.

    [–]Winterwolf98 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Now that's how a redpiller talks. Finally!

    [–]mgozmovies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    You have a real way with words. Thank you.

    [–]BillyRedRocks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    This is one of the reasons you should be on the Red Men Group every time. If not for the topic then at least for the calls. You're an expert on people bullshitting themselves and maybe they can be saved, maybe not but you have a perspective the other members can't provide, and you're not afraid to shit on someone if it has a chance of making him ... take action.

    [–]DesperateMailman 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    Is your point basically that she isn't trying hard enough because her body changed after having three kids?

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    hard enough doing what. does he know?

    [–]DesperateMailman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    By trying, I meant trying to support the marriage.

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    Briffaults law, the relationship is her job. Your job is to be a man of value.

    You'd be surprised how fast relationships work when a high value man with options shows up

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I believe his point is not thinking about her too much but more about the poster (the husband) himself.

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yup. I mean what judgement can you possibly make for a 3ce time babymaker with a husband. By Dr. Phill standards, this woman is nigh untouchable by any critique. not that it matters, the only thing I know about her is her skin and how she treats OP

    [–]PM_ME_YO_NIGHTMARES 3 points4 points  (16 children)

    Grab the highest quality man you can find (at that time), get yours, then slowly start to get more entitled, treat him like shit, then move onto something else once there's a better option

    Ok really? Do you really believe that? All women are manipulative and assholes? You're taking the dude's word for it and straight up calling her a cunt. You don't even know the other side of the story. Then you use that to right off half the population as manipulative. And as far as looking for someone else goes he is the one that's contemplating divorce ( and I'm not necessarily blaming him )

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 6 points7 points  (10 children)

    That quote was a blue collar paraphrasing of Practical Female Psychology, from James Franco. the language is purposefully coarse in order to draw out comments like yours.

    My question is, why do you feel compelled to defend this same woman you dont know from adam.

    Think real hard.

    [–]PM_ME_YO_NIGHTMARES 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I haven't read that book (maybe I should) but I do think its false or highly exaggerated

    [–]valvadi 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    White knights always be white knighting.

    [–]PM_ME_YO_NIGHTMARES 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    See here's my problem with this mindset. Its lazy thinking. I say something "defending" a woman and BAM! I'm a white knight male feminist now. A woman is allegedly treating her husband like shit so all women are disgusting manuplative pigs. This kind of absurd over generalisation is WRONG. You can't just put people in some groups to make yourself believe you know everthing about them

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    then maybe, in a subreddit about a guys problems, on a post about a guys problems, you don't go out of your way to find ways to dismiss them out of hand.

    [–]PM_ME_YO_NIGHTMARES 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Dude if we are not gonna listen to opposing ideas and views then we be sitting here all day circle jerking each other

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    these aren't opposing ideas. I'm breaking down ops grievances, and you're telling me it's 'not her fault', and looking for reasons to ensure that it isn't.

    you're basically a nagging wife

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    We are hard wired to.

    [–]valvadi 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I completely agree. But what is rather ironic in this instance is that the white knight is correct but for the wrong reason. At least if, as men, we fix ourselves, we know where the problem lies. Is OP the problem or is it his wife? Until he owns his shit and gets on the right path he will never know.

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Pretty much. Narrow down that you're not the problem, then take appropriate action

    [–]Persaeus 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    All women are manipulative and assholes?

    the funny thing is that you make a judgement on women's character while Rian describes a set of behaviors that all women will take given the opportunity (a BP man). of course, these behaviors are on a spectrum. i have to ask: how old are you?

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Pretty sure this is a 'she'. Focused on the character judgement instead of the heuristics is almost always a dead giveaway.

    [–]PM_ME_YO_NIGHTMARES 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I made a judgement based on Rian's words and criticised his views. Btw I'm almost 20 so if you're gonna dismiss everthing I said based on my age, go ahead

    [–]Persaeus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    it's not surprising because unless you're some cougar slayer your experience with married women and married men is extremely limited.

    when you have no idea what your talking about, you'll learn more by asking questions as opposed to concern trolling.

    [–]Ether_Freeth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Nice post and a good way to articulate the point. I hope the guy himself reads it.

    Thank you for the perspective it will come I handy.

    [–]punchyson 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    “Lift” is a meme in this community. I’m picturing Hanz and Franz, we gonna get.... clap... you laid

    There should be a sticky on the programs for beginners. I personally love Olympic lifting but you need a coach.

    SL 5x5 is of course the gold standard for beginners.

    Lifting isn’t just about muscles for the ladies. When you can clean and press your own body weight that fundamentally changes shit.

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It's seeing if everyone is wasting their time on a guy who can't do the bare minimum to 'man'

    [–]Deezdtho 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I don't think the GOAT status in marriage is not partaking. I suppose Rollo is an outlier or the anomaly. Even still, it seems ridiculous to partake in this day and age. Women aren't holding back. Its a free for all.

    [–]DeontologicalSanders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Got my heart broken by this woman named Tammy,

    But hoes gon' be hoes, so I couldn't blame Tammy.

    -Dwayne Michael Carter, Jr.

    [–]Drumcode-Equals-Life 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Very true, I noticed it recently where this hot piece of 23 year old ass in the local dance music community got knocked up a year ago, now she’s got a desperate beta locked down to provide and has zero incentive to get back into shape. Her body went from looking like an hourglass to a sack of potatoes.

    [–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    She's running on autopilot, and if you're used to game in 8 hour bursts, once a week, you're going to burn out.

    So well put. Guys like to use tactics that are not sustainable and then fantasize how they can arrogantly apply them to stretch out into LTRs.

    Example, you drop 1000 texts to a chick in one month (the first month), now you have set an expectation your ass won't be pulling off 3 months later without looking like a co-dependent pussy. Oh, she wants the 1000. You better fucking deliver that 1000 while upholding chad status. And at the same time you go straight ass to mouth on yourself because you think you are more important to her than you really are. Brutal.

    [–]uwey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Talk is cheap.

    Winner going to win, loser keep lose. 2nd place and last place is equal to many that never left their own world as they are the crowned king in their little circle.

    “Why try if you will destine to fail?”

    Cool thing about this place is that you can talk shit all day long, but you would never shit talk like DJT, and that is ok.

    From value proposition, people can clearly identify who gave sound and logical advice, and in other hand you got ad hominem and red herring logical fallacy dispenser.....

    I got a colleague recently find out TRP and so excited that he lectured me as he is the new master of such private knowledge.

    People are mostly immature and would not realize until they fail. Without failure and survive the fall that often kill or disfigured typical hombre, the result is The Who think they are the real deal, while the real deal at corner and look at them and get back to their business.

    Look no further, for the one suffer and endure unimaginable, they are often the most ruthless and calm walking storm you can observe, for them had stare in the eye of the death, would you gently embrace such brutal fate with dare? Or would you brush off and claim the title but without wear the crown of torment for the rest of your life?

    You never know who's swimming naked until the tide goes out. Look for the tide, not the swimmer.....

    [–]surfingjesus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Entropy. That's what happens when you let a broken window turn into an Abandominium. Now it's beyond repair. Probably bought into that 'real men don't mind xyz flaw of women', and then one day the roof collapsed.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    robocop who got hit by the car dude

    No examples from fiction or lyrics!

    Just kidding. Which one did you mean? 1, 2, 3rd or that PG-rated abomination?

    I doubt most of the audience understood that example or saw that movie for the matter. But I know how to spot a dude in his late 30s when I see one...

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    theres only 2 robocop movies

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Nope. 4 at least. And a tv series. And some cartoons too.

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    No idea what you're talking about. Your statement is about as believable as there being more than 3 star wars films

    [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Oh, I get it, now I see where you're coming from.

    I agree.

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    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    And to give a fairer answer, before your ban that is...

    This isn't about her, it's about him. The only place he gets to have a problem without chicks shreiking is a tiny, random internet forum... And you want to take that from him, dismiss his feelings and get the plow horse back in the stable. Isn't sharing feelings something you chicks love? You're not wrong, but you're also not helpful. He feels what he feels, and your shit won't change that, of course, it's not about the body, but you were frothing at the mouth too much to finish reading weren't you...

    I'll give it a reread, but I don't think I mentioned the girl once, luckily you've made it all about her.

    Fuck off and let other men sort him out, I thought the harsh language would be enough to deter you from running your mouth.

    I guess I was wrong.

    [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Why can't a guy shut up and be grateful? Why does he have to have his own grievances?

    Fuck that guy