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Field ReportField Report - All that matters is what she is feeling NOW (self.TheRedPill)

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Whenever I begin to doubt this tenet of our one true faith, something always happens to reel me back in. Went on a date with a very attractive girl - made out with her but it went no further. Shortly after she invited me to go to the beach with her and her friend. I showed up and we chilled for a few hours. At the end her friend said she was getting an uber and she told her to go ahead because she was going to "walk me home."

"Sweet," I thought. For sure hookup. We get back to my door and start making out, and she starts protesting that she's not coming up. I tell her she can wait for her uber in the lobby and she agrees. We go inside. I tell her she can look at my apartment if she wants and she agrees. We go up. Five minutes later and I'm inside her.

She later told me that she "had not intended" for that to happen. Well of course.... we've all heard that before. It's a face saving maneuver right? But then she went on about how she had explicitly decided that she was going to make me wait till the fourth date. I laughed and asked when she decided to break that, and she very seriously said that not until she was in my room with my hand up her shirt did she finally realize she was going to fuck me.

I inquired further.

"So you really didn't plan on having sex when you volunteered to walk me home?"

"No."

"So you really didn't plan on having sex when you came into the lobby?"

"No."

"So you really didn't plan on having sex when you agreed to come upstairs?"

"No."

The only thing that matters is how she feels at that moment. She walked me home because at that moment, she felt like it. She came inside because at that moment, she felt like it. She came upstairs because at that moment, she felt like it. And she gave me her pussy on the second date instead of the fourth because at that moment, she felt like it.

She did not stop to think how any of these incremental decisions leading up to sex would affect the plan that her logical brain made days before, or if she did think on it then the logic was simply over-matched. A woman's emotions lead her in the direction of the best genes and she follows where they lead, twisting in the wind and helpless to resist.


[–]buttgoogler 216 points217 points  (8 children)

Don’t listen to their words, watch their actions. Imo she sure as fuck knew why you were going upstairs but just like any other girl, she didn't want to be responsible for whatever was gonna happen.

[–]1TrenGod37 91 points92 points  (5 children)

This is what really was going on. Women are not stupid they know what it is. They’re born to know what it is. They just don’t want to feel like a sluts. They don’t want any responsibility to fall back on them. It has to feel like it just happened, and it’s your fault it did.

Moral of the story she had her mind made up in the first 5 minute of meeting you that she was going to sleep with you. It was just up to you not to fuck it up.

so you really didn’t...

Why are you asking her this shit?? Nothing but her actions matter. Never her words this is basic stuff. Of course she’s going to say “no” because of the reasons I said above.

All this shit is unnecessary to ask. You’re literally asking her to confirm the shit you’re reading on here. Stop that. That’s like asking her how many dudes she slept with or if she thinks chad is hotter than you. She’s going to lie and you should know better.

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[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Women are not stupid they know what it is.

It's not that they are stupid. It's called cognitive dissonance. One part of their brain (rational part) says she's not going to have sex. The other part of their part that controls emotions says oh yes you are. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. And again, I do admit that it is partly about saving face and not looking like slut. I think they are largely telling the truth though when they say that they did not plan on having sex.

[–]1TrenGod37 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I agree with that. When I say they aren’t stupid I’m saying She knows right away if she wants to fuck if her brain says “yes” it’s already a wrap. Like I said its just up to you to not prove her wrong.

They know we want sex. They know when your touching her what it is. They know bro. It’s all about presentation and feeling.

But I do agree with what you said

[–]Shaney96 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Moral of the story she had her mind made up in the first 5 minute of meeting you that she was going to sleep with you. It was just up to you not to fuck it up.

This should help take the load of many people's backs (mine included) when it comes to 'running game'. If you've developed yourself enough and have a solid enough frame, you shouldn't have to worry about these million-and-one 'pickup techniques', as she can already tell what an attractive man you are - and knows she wants to fuck you - almost instantly.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Could be. I do happen to believe that women aren't as socially stupid as a lot of guys here think. But the OP's conclusion is just as plausible -- women will quite literally act on how they feel in the moment, a slave to their feelings.

This can be either a good or a bad thing, depending on the context. For our purposes, it means that if you fucked up a date, you can still salvage the situation the next time you meet. She may know what's going on (high social acuity) but will still go along given the chance to sleep with you, even though you totally bombed on your previous meet-up (slave to her emotions).

But the reverse is also true, which is why you never let your guard drop.

It isn't logical, but women never are.

[–]3CainPrice 71 points72 points  (3 children)

My girl is tired as shit some nights. She works late. She might even stop at the gym on the way home from work. After a shower, she's barely conscious.

When she walks in the door, she's already decided she's not going to have sex. She's too tired. Maybe tomorrow night, she says. I shrug like it's no big deal without getting butt-hurt about it.

Five minutes after her shower, a little dirty talking, some heavy making out, and my hand wanders, and lo and behold, my fingers discover that she's in dire need of some attention downstairs before she leaves a spot in my bed. When she finally comes down from her second orgasm, she says, "I totally didn't think I had that in me. Didn't see it coming at all."

I respond that I knew she had it in her and kiss her good night.

Women don't know when they're horny. Not all the time, anyway. Sometimes, sure. But other times, they literally need to be soaking through their underwear and making a spot on the mattress before they notice. Their subconscious knows they're horny and will put them into all kinds of positions to get fucked, while their conscious mind comes up with rational excuses why they're doing this completely innocent, non-slutty act.

[–]trentsteel2 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Their subconscious knows they're horny and will put them into all kinds of positions to get fucked, while their conscious mind comes up with rational excuses why they're doing this completely innocent, non-slutty act.

I love this line! Going to write it down aha.

[–]SKRedPill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It seems to me that things get flowing only when the conscious mind really shuts down its chit chatter. True for athletes in the zone, and true for sex. So long as her conscious mind is deliberating various thoughts and emotions, it's not gonna happen. When arousal takes over though, all that shuts down for a while, and then the animal is loose.

[–]CMajorThe3rd 41 points42 points  (4 children)

she knew 5 mins after you passed her dumb shit test, you're point is pointless but still fun.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I don't know man. It was kind of like a candid post sex conversation. I could be wrong. I believed her in this case though.

[–]latinasonly 23 points24 points  (1 child)

i thinkhe means the one about , " We get back to my door and start making out, and she starts protesting that she's not coming up. I tell her she can wait for her uber in the lobby and she agrees. "

you kept your cool and told her to wait in the lobby. shit test passed

[–]CMajorThe3rd 11 points12 points  (0 children)

yep, super obvious shit test, I mean for fucks sake shes with you at your building.... dont let the red pill give women a pass for this kind of typical crap, she knew what she was doing regardless.

[–]punchyson 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This really is Red Pill 101 stuff, but I don’t mean to be insulting in saying that.

Women want sex to be something that just happened. They fantasize about it that way, oops cute guy got in my pants and there was nothing I could do to say no.

[–]Morphs_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is something we guys will never truly understand. For sure at some point must she think about sex before it happens? But apparently is possible to REALLY not think about that until you're inside her. It's mental.

One time I had a first date with a girl that gave me LMR. Eventually we sat down and had a comforting conversation about sex and stuff. After that the LMR was gone. I did notice she hadn't shaved her pussy during sex and weeks later she told me she hadn't shaved on purpose because apparently she had decided beforehand that there wouldn't be any sex. Not shaving was her way of ensuring that... until she felt like "fuck it" and got banged anyway.

I guess the prefrontal cortex in the brain (the part responsible for planning and selfcontrol) in women is not as developed as it is for men.

[–]derpitaway 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well done. Well done, my good sir!

[–]thrownawayisland 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Haha same thing happened to me. Second date, making out when the girl told me she wouldn't do anything until the third date. So I back off, keep making out. Then she says "you can put your hands there, just not anywhere else". So I'm like "oh she means her tits, sweet". So I start rubbing under her bra. Then I just tell her straight up "lets get this bra off you".

Then after suckin her tits and making out, I'm like "I want you to suck my cock" but she insists not til the next date. So I back off again. Suddenly she asks "Are you circumcised?" and I got confused for a sec and was like "no" wait yeah haha". She laughs and asks if she can see it. I whip it out and it is hard as fuck. She goes "wow you are ready to GO!" Asks if I have condoms, then mentions she carries some in her purse.

Went from "not till the next date" to balls deep in like 15 mins or less.

[–]makethemflaunt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This exactly. Something that many men don't understand is that women aren't *consciously* toying with men, or *consciously* giving them shit tests, most of the time. They are motivated by internal battles happening inside themselves, between their primal parts and their less primal parts.

You have to make every. single. step. of the process, each moment, enjoyable and enticing for them. If they don't want to get down, it's because you failed to elicit the right emotions. It is all about how they feel in each moment.

[–]Marino4K 20 points21 points  (11 children)

I never understood why women try to rationalize having sex or why they did it.

Everyone likes sex, people should act like it, or women anyway should

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (2 children)

Because sluttiness is not an attractive trait for a relationship and she wants to date me. It's pretty simple. Men and women are not the same. Read dat sidebar.

[–]gulag_disco 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I’m promiscuous, or at least more promiscuous than specifically women are supposed to be. One of the things that women complain about with men is the double standard of n count, and in basically only this am I on their side.

I’ll date a girl if even if she sleeps with me the first date because I’m trying to fuck them on the first date. If I hold them responsible for that, that’s the exact hipocrisy of the unconscious woman; a male hamster.

I like hoes. God bless them for giving me what I want.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The double standard is because of biology. Females are assured to be the mother of the child that they bear. Men are not assured of being the father. Human babies are highly underdeveloped and require more care than the mother alone can provide. Our ancestors would be less likely to assist a slutty woman in raising her child because they are less sure that they are the father. Read the sidebar.

[–]SasquatchMcKraken 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Because the archer gets better with practice; the target does not. Regardless of whether or not they like this fact or even rage against it, even in this day and age they know better than to openly flout it.

[–]booochi 14 points15 points  (3 children)

All this shit is unnecessary to ask. You’re literally asking her to confirm the shit you’re reading on here. Stop that. That’s like asking her how many dudes she slept with or if she thinks chad is hotter than you. She’s going to lie and you should know better.

If everyone knows she's a slut, then everyone will just fuck her and then dump her. Nobody will date her or wife her up. Creates problems for her in finding a mate.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, anyone who denies this is denying one of the most basic fundamentals of TRP, which is that men and women are not the same.

[–]SasquatchMcKraken 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Exactly. They might love their AF but everyone forgets that they need their BB just as badly. A wholesome image is vital in locking that down.

[–]booochi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. I find the more manipulative they are to men, the more slutty they are.

[–]-uftw- 3 points4 points  (1 child)

"The archer gets better with practice; the target does not."

That's a good one! I'm stealing it.

[–]SasquatchMcKraken 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be my guest. I stole it myself years ago.

[–]NikolaGeorgiev 5 points6 points  (2 children)

4 dates? She really thinks anyone would wait that much these days?

[–]Pestilence1911 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Four?, nah. Have em show up hot and freah like a pizza.

Orbiters can pay for dates.

[–]RedPill115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a trap. He wouldn't wait more than 3 dates, so she sets it at 1+3 dates because her ego tells her that makes special or something.

If you actually made it that far though, a different part of her brain would decide that for attractive men 3 dates is the limit, so you must not be attracted, so now she's lost sexual interest in you.

If that's confusing that's why it's called a shit test. I think it's 2 different parts of her brain fighting with each other, the "4 dates" part is trying to sabotage the "fuck him now" part so you end up here.

[–]MurkyArtichoke 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well said. I just recently had a very similar occurrance. Met girl from tinder, had the first date where we talked and flirted yada yada usual stuff, but didn't go further. She asked to see me again though. Next date, i propose we make some food and drink some wine while watching a movie. When i invite a girl over for drinks and movies i expect it to lead to sex. We share like three bottles of wine and we get a good buzz going. I go in for the makeout, and she kinda teasingly denies me/pulls away. I remain calm and remember what i've read about in here, and i act unphased and like i don't care. To her i almost seem distant now, and she then goes in to kiss ME, and i kinda deny her. This makes her fucking crazy for me (thanks TRP), and i eventually let her kiss me and we makeout. After some time later, when we've kissed and fooled around, i get up and just lead her to the bedroom and she happily follows with me. Fuck her twice before we fall asleep. She goes home next morning, and later in the day after a bit of texting, BOOM i get this text: "like, i'm not really comfortable with us having had sex already. Too much wine! So i really want us to slow down a little, even though i really like you! Because i am looking for something serious, and not just fooling around.."

Like you said, it's all about what she's feeling at that moment. She's looking for something serious and doesn't want to rush things. She probably had planned to have sex with me after several more dates if it went well, but she had sex with me already at the second date. If i had played the cards right i could probably have done it on the first one too. It's all about "the moment". I've met her again after that date, and she has told me she "doesn't remember us having had sex", she only saw the condoms on the nightstand. I HIGHLY doubt she doesn't remember having had sex with me twice, and that it's probably just a way for her to defend herself having had sex with me so soon.

[–]RashCrumb 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Be careful layin pipe after 3 bottles of wine, there could be some rape accusations

[–]MurkyArtichoke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah i can see that. Usually it's a no-no from me if the girl is clearly very drunk, but i never got that vibe from her. She seemed pretty normal. Anyways, we've met a few more times after this and we've had sober-sex too so no worries. Good advice though, i completely agree.

[–]jonpe87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All that matters is what I m feeling now ;)

[–]Rob345678 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women make rules for betas and break rules for alphas