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Wife wants to take our sex to a new level (self.asktrp)

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Hi Everyone. First post here. I was directed her by another Reddit member. They said here is where I should ask this advice.

My wife and I have a decent sex life. Goes in spurts but we generally enjoy it when it happens. Were married 8 years, I’m 42, she’s 37. We are an attractive couple.

This morning when we woke up, after talking about sex we had last nite, she said that she was thinking of “spicing things up” a little bit. I asked her what she meant, and she said she was thinking about bringing another man into the bedroom, no emotional strings attached. Right away my chin dropped at the thought of it, as i have never done this before. She said not to freak out, she read that many couples do it under agreed terms, and it betters their sex lives.

I am KIND OF up for it if it will make her happy. However, she wants it be someone we know who we can trust. She mentioned an ex boyfriend of hers who is a mutual friend of ours as a possibility. He’s now married too. Good guy, we see him around mutual friends. Now the GOOD with this is, we know the guy and he respects me with my wife. Their time has passed. What WORRIES me about it is, from what my wife has told me about him, they had VERY rough sex. Kinky, even degrading stuff. Even her friends have told me when we first started dating in a joking manner.

QUESTION: Is she trying to relive what she had with this guy? Or is she really trying to better OUR sex life?


[–]A_Rex 249 points250 points  (76 children)

She's looking to cuck you. Chances are, she already fucked him and now wants to do it with your blessing to erase any guilt. Start clandestinely looking for evidence.

Btw, your sex life with her is "meh" because she is t attracted to you, she's desirous of her Ex. Look at it this way, if she was just interested in an MFM to get it off her bucket list, she wouldn't have a guy in mind.

Tough break, but at least you came to the right place.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (74 children)

Thanks for the reply. After talking to her the last few days, her "theory" on this is, se wants ME to give her this level of sex she desires. And according to her, the only way fro it to happen is for me to experience it. I told her "why cant we just watch a rough porn video?" She says its not the same. We do have a good sex life, but what she did with him was extreme. She wants to be degraded and rough handled. And the only ways she feels I will give her that is for me to actually sit through it with her ex, who is a mutual friend in our circle of friends. She says when I see her get fucked by this guy, I will always want her with that level of energy. My head is spinning these last few days. this was out of the blue.

[–]A_Rex 162 points163 points  (22 children)

Telling you. Read the sidebar stuff. It'll take you a few days, but it'll sink in.

Women want a man who just "gets it". Her ex "just got it". You don't. Also, "watch what they do, not what they say". He statements are rationalizations (what we call hamstering).

If she wanted you to fuck her like that, she'd have taken you up on your porn idea. Instead, she wants Chad to give her the treatment right in front of you. It's profoundly disrespectful and simply put the most unmasculine thing I can think of. She's essentially saying "I want you to watch a real man fuck me the way you never could".

[–]bowie747 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Classic Alpha Widow.

[–]Ranger_Mitch 44 points45 points  (6 children)

She says when I see her get fucked by this guy, I will always want her with that level of energy.

That's cute. I guarantee you, with 100% certainty, that seeing her get fucked by this guy will result in the total annihilation of your sex life. You will not be able to forget the images, or the feeling of utter inadequacy - not to mention your disgust with her for liking this form of sex that you cannot provide. (Because you can't just flip a switch and have rough sex. You need to mentally accept it, and then you need to practice to find the line between rough and too-rough, which can be difficult especially as the line moves depending on the time of month and other factors.)

[–]thawayred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know you cant just flip the switch and do that. Just like she cant flip the switch and NOT do it. Seeing her get her brains fucked out would put an image in my head that i may bot be able to liv up to, youre right. I watch porn and as much ias i want to try that, some if it may ot be easy. They are experienced actors. I KNOW I can give her a new level of sex if she wanted, but who k now sif its exactly what she would expect.

[–]prettylittledictator 58 points59 points  (12 children)

He's right. I've been married to my husband for almost two years been together longer (7 years)....I have zero desire to bring a another male into our bedroom. I see attractive men but no one compares or comes close to my husband. Never in a million years would I even suggest to bring another guy into our sex life.

It's so weird she already had someone in mind. She's been thinking about it for a long time and probably did fuck him.

I asked my husband if he could be rough with me when our sex life needed some spice... Last thing I wanted was another dude to do it. I'm sorry but she isn't into it with you cause you don't do it for her.

[–]GL_HaveFun 8 points9 points  (6 children)

I really hope this guy sees your message. Can you repost it to the main just so he gets the notification? My heart goes out to this guy he just isn't seeing it. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Hi. Im the OP. I see her message here. Its shocking for me to even think she isnt into me anymore after this long. Like i said mwe DO have good sex, higher standards than most people i would assume. But what surprises me is she didnt even attempt to ask me if i wanted to experiment on this level.

[–]dadstartingover_com 1 point2 points  (4 children)

"...after this long."

That's precisely why her lustful feelings towards you are waning. There is a "new relationship energy" we all feel. For some it can last for a few years. Then it just naturally dissipates. That's not a bad thing.. it just is. This is why you hear so many people online saying "What can I do to spice things up??" Translation: "I feel my new relationship energy going away big time and I'm scared." Scared because they know they have the desire in them... just not for their partner that's by their side every day for the rest of their lives. Freaks some people out. They're SUPPOSED to be lustful for this awesome husband/wife of theirs! No... doesn't work that way.

Time is NOT on your side when it comes to a romantic relationship.

Gotta GAME your wife. Never take your foot off the gas. Ever.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Thanks PLD. We need to hear the female side of TRP from time to time. Thanks for braving the waters.

[–]play_time_is_over 24 points25 points  (8 children)

Yea dude... shes been fucking her ex behind your back.

[–]SoRedSuchAlpha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could be, but I really doubt it. She clearly desperately wants to bone her ex, but if she were a cheater a She'd probably stick to cheating and not risk everything by trying to rope her husband in. No, it's more likely she hasn't fucked her ex since she got married and now wants an honorable way to do it.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

se wants ME to give her this level of sex she desires. And according to her, the only way fro it to happen is for me to experience it

Your wife is a manipulative piece of work. She wants to cheat and have plausible deniability because you agreed to it.

Plan and execute your getaway from this woman immediately.

Before you get away, turn the tables on her. Agree and amplify. Agree that your sex life could use some improvement and insist on bringing in a licensed female surrogate who can coach you how your wife wants to be fucked. "Honey, it'll be great. You can coach me from the sidelines while I practice on the surrogate. I'm more of a hands on than visual learner, so this will definitely work better for me."

[–]sirfuckboysupreme 5 points6 points  (3 children)

She said this. She said that. She wants this. She wants that. So she's the one in control of your relationship and wants to be fucked by someone else while you watch? That's cute. Sure, go for it! Be her little bitch and enjoy the show while you watch her ex fuck her raw :)

Sarcasm aside: no! Shes trying to get your approval to legitimately fuck her ex who she's fantasising about. I'd grow slightly distant and spend more time around more attractive women. Make her realise you still have the potential to meet new amazing people and she'd lose the boss man that you are.

[–]postreformedpua 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Read this.

[–]mabden 2 points3 points  (3 children)

She says its not the same.

Watch some early James Deen porn.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ive seen him on "my own private time" lol

[–]mabden 14 points15 points  (1 child)

The only other thing to suggest is tell her that instead of the ex, you want to bring in some other chick so that she can instruct you on how to dominate in the bedroom. Start looking up BDSM hookup sites.

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[–]flatox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man the fuck up and put your foot in the ground. No fuckin way mate. You need to read the sidebar on the main subreddit. Or dont and forever live in the bliss of blindness from "love".

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Dude, tell me a lightbulb went off for you when you just wrote this?!
Zero, nope, WTF, Hell no - there is ok good to come of this. She's fucked in the head if she hunks screwing her ex in front of you is going to make you do anything besides vomit and curl up like a baby on the floor crying. Just drop her now if this is the kind of logic going through her head.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 111 points112 points  (23 children)

Looks like we got another Reddit Cuck on our hands boys. What surprises me isn't the whole situation. What is surprising is how casually she asked to get strangedicked and how casually the man starts considering it.

Like what if I was at OP's house as a dinner guest and was like: Hey OP how about I spice up this dinner party by taking a shit on the floor?

[–]Askada 25 points26 points  (5 children)

What surprises me even more that he still seems to be in denial that she's fucking her ex.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im not really in denial. My head is more "this shit realy happened to me!?" Mode. I may have to just accept already what may have happened. Youre right.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

his tone just shows you how fucked the average western male is.

Feel sorry for him, he's so far from even understanding that his marriage is over, I wouldn't know where to begin. The correct advice in this case might even be; "agree to it, watch in horror, let that be rock bottom, get divorced, start over whilst using TRP as a guide"

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You've got to cool it now...

Alright Tyrone here are some of the ground rules...

[–]JvSOUL 40 points41 points  (18 children)

......Dude. Run.

The level of disrespect here is unbelieavable....

I don't know if you have the Balls or the Mental Strength to ghost this "Wife" of yours, divorce her ASAP. Get a lawyer and protect your assets. YOU ARE WAY TO DEEP IN THIS FANTASY AND POSSIBLY TRAPED IN ONEITIS.

I don't know how else to say this, but you have to End it ASAP. CUT HER OFF.

[–]flatox 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He does not understand and so he will not act ad he should.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 34 points35 points  (4 children)

Ever notice how any time a woman asks to open a relationship or introduce a third, she already knows who she wants to fuck?

That's all you need to know.

Trust me. She hasn't just picked him out. She's already talked to him, flirted, set things up, and knows the answer is yes on his end. She's been doing that behind your back. She may have already cheated. She's gong to if you say no, or just leave you for denying her this essential experience/fantasy.

[–]jb_trp 5 points6 points  (2 children)

You're right. They always have a man in mind.

I matched with a married woman on Tinder and have been hooking up with her the last couple weeks. She's in an open relationship with her husband. When I asked her how that came about, she told me: She had been cheating on her husband and he found out (or she told him? I forget). They have two children, really good kids, and I don't think he wanted to divorce her.

He ended up getting a 22 year old girlfriend and his wife became really insecure. Nuclear dread. She told me she's seeing a counselor over it. She also fucks him just about every day it seems. Big surprise.

Last night I went over and she told me her husband was on a date with a new 24 year old girl, and that his 22 year old girlfriend is freaking out. His wife was pretty giddy.

People are weird. I guess demoting your wife to a plate (if you have kids with her) is one option. It's not what I would want though.

[–]bbm72 34 points35 points  (19 children)

Dude, painful situation for me to read about. Please get out of this relationship.

Signed, The guy who has been the other guy.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (18 children)

you were the ex she wants in this situation?

[–]bbm72 14 points15 points  (10 children)

Not the ex, rather the guy who screwed her properly. I was asked by her to f her in front of her bf. She arranged with him for him to watch us.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (9 children)

Boyfreind agreed? Just one time? This is what my wife wants, but in a "watch this is how you do it" sense. Weird

[–]bbm72 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Yes, agreed and one time. Same idea. I felt bad. He agree but wasn't happy; I get kinda rough on her. She loves it. But he is too gentle and caring/ boring. Typical relationship mistake.

[–]bbm72 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Ps, in my case the bf only watched didn't partake.

[–]SoRedSuchAlpha 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Do you know how it worked out for them?

[–]bbm72 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Truly ... I don't know how they're faring. They're still together, but if things are generally good or not, I don't know. She comes by once every two weeks still. I reckon that says enough.

[–]flatox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop considering this and please wake up to reality.....

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

If i agreed to this, whin i am definitely not, do you think she would tell me "I will have him tone it down a bit for you"? No way. I dont think so.

[–]bbm72 2 points3 points  (5 children)

No idea. In my case, the chick said just to do what web do and he will watch.

[–]ThatKassiusGuy 25 points26 points  (1 child)

You keep trying to rationalise all this, talking about sending her to a sex therapist? STOP!

Your wife basically said "I want to FUCK another man!" Do you even understand that?

Up to you dude really, if you want to try and 'fix' this then go ahead. Read the Red Pill sidebar. I can only go on my own experiences and the experiences of the people on this sub but my gut feeling is saying that it's over.

[–]KettleLogic 23 points24 points  (7 children)

God. Look at threads where people have discussed threesome horror stories.

This is your future.

I'm so sorry man. My stomach sinks thinking about how messy this divorce is going to be now or in the future be it you ripping it off like a bandaid. You being cucked and her finding not interest in doing anything but cucking you. Or you finding out about cheating.

There's no way I could be with a woman who told me that I needed to watch how a real man fucks. Is he gonna pat you on the head after and "say there you go scamp that's how a real man does it!"

Go lift and get a good lawyer you wouldn't be here if this issue wasn't eating at you.

[–]Askada 16 points17 points  (1 child)

There's no way I could be with a woman who told me that I needed to watch how a real man fucks.

I can't even comprehend how any man could listen to that like he is seriously considering the option. Like, what the fuck.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Is he gonna pat you on the head after

Brutal. Holy fuck.

[–]djdonny 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That was fucking savage but deserved no man wants to hear that

[–]FrameWalker 47 points48 points  (22 children)

No no absolutely no. Talk to a lawyer pronto. If she's already suggesting this she's already ready to divorce.

What she's done is a huge ducking slap in the face. Get angry. Then act rationally protect your assets and divorce.

[–]Endorsed Contributorstickfiguresk 40 points41 points  (41 children)

is she really trying to better OUR sex life?

Women don't work like that. She's trying to better HER sex life. She's projecting, at very much your expense.

Here at TRP, we don't take suggestions like that lightly. The woman is broken, a bad apple. There's a lot of bad apples, as our society, like the article your wife pointed out, encourages this behavior, which wouldn't happen to a stronger patriarch. I'm sorry to say this, but the damage has already been done. You'll hopefully be seperated in 6 months. Don't consent to her fucking another man. At least leave the relationship with your dignity.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (34 children)

Its just so hard to absorb all this the last few days. i want to satisfy her at this level, but have not even been given the chance! thats whats fucked up! And she says only one time with this guy and thats it to "teach me"? I told her no and she has been upset because she doesnt want the divorce obviously. But i cant watch my wifes pussy get torn up. I just cant. Especially by a mutual friend/ex.

[–][deleted]  (16 children)

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    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (15 children)

    I hate to think of my wife as a whore. After all this time. Geez. But if she doesnt come to her senses I have to face up to leaving.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorstickfiguresk 23 points24 points  (5 children)

    But if she doesnt come to her senses

    You're putting your well being in her hands, after you let her put you in this spot in the first place. Take the initiative--or she'll drive you further into the ground.

    Get the book, No More Mr. Nice Guy. You need it, desperately. If you don't put yourself first, nobody will. Women can't say that--you're living proof.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    I'll check out the book. I wouldn't say I really let her put me in this position, it came out of left field. I told her it's no,and that's it. She goes to sex therapy or something or we separate.

    [–]BusterVadge 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    Make sure that the sex therapist isn't a liberal whackjob. I guaran-fucking-tee you that if it's a feminist whackjob, she'll tell your wife that it's ok to do this and you're a jerk for suggesting otherwise.

    [–]SoRedSuchAlpha 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I know a ton of liberals, feminists, and therapists. That's not how they talk. They'll say that it's okay for her to want it, but that it's okay for him to object.

    [–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Go read the book today. Sit down and finish it in one sitting, it will start to set your mind straight. I know your world is spinning right now, but your wife is not who you think she is.

    [–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    She may deny her urge and remain faithful, but she'll resent you for it.

    Start covertly planning for divorce. Get lawyers and money in order without ever teling her what's going on. Make sure to make your play first. Trust me, lawyers tell women the exact same thing.

    [–]maxofreddit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    She is.

    Now it's up to you to decide if she's going to be YOUR whore, or someone else's.

    Most want to be a whore, they just want to be a whore for YOU.

    [–]knightSwolaire 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Hey dude you really need to go to the main TRp sub and read the entire side bar. It's ok we've all been at the early stage of where you are now but go do your homework immediately

    [–]Endorsed Contributorstickfiguresk 11 points12 points  (6 children)

    I'd suggest taking a day to be by yourself and thinking long and hard what you want for YOU, since clearly nobody is taking that into consideration. I STRONGLY suggest you read No More Mr. Nice Guy, preferably starting right now--you can download it from Amazon, it may even be an audiobook too--I haven't checked.

    Good luck, man. Come back to us if you want any other bro opinions. We have your back, but only you can save yourself.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

    Thanks a lot. Really. I feel welcome. This is hard. :)

    [–]Glennus626 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    Victim puking on the red pill is like a bar owner going on to the show bar rescue with John taffer. His style is to tear you down and bring your ego and or your delusions out into the light for scrutiny. It sounds harsh, but people are in the messes they are in because of the lies they tell themselves (we really do have a great marriage/sex life/other than this she does respect me). If you read the sidebar, you will start to see how trp theory is logical and just makes sense.

    Good luck, man.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Thanks buddy, i will check out the side bar. I just put a new post up addressing comments from people.

    [–]nightmancommeth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Cross post to married red pill but i have feeling you will get the same advice. The guys there are a bit more understanding but this situation I feel that you are already getting the right advice here.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    It's worse than hard brother. It's an emotional nightmare. Please, for your own sanity, believe us all here. We are trying to save you from experiences WE HAVE ALL HAD.

    You need to tell her you're considering it. Tell her you responded quickly out of jealousy and that now you're thinking about it. "It might be sexy!" Meanwhile...get to that lawyer STAT, and separate your money, compile any evidence, and cash out in any way you can because the divorce is coming. Play along for a bit so you can catch her lies and so she doesn't make things worse before you can protect yourself.

    Sheesh...lessons learned? I hope so.

    Do not get married.

    AWALT

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    i want to satisfy her at this level,

    Flip the script. She should want to satisfy you, on the level you decide. You aren't a plow horse, you're a man.

    If you do nothing else in this post, go read 'the manipulated man'. It's on the sidebar, and if it doesn't get across what people are trying to tell you, then I don't know what will.

    You've been fed a lie your whole life. You've been told to undervalue your worth, and she is cashing in. Not a bad person, she was fed the same lies.

    Lucky for you, you have a chance to fix you. Not the relationship, not her, fix you.

    Question is, are you willing to see what man can be, and live by this? I guarantee, whatever path you decide to take will put you better off.

    [–]maxofreddit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You need to see your wife pussy get torn up by YOU....she wants a torn up pussy, and she wants you to "just know" how to do it.

    You need to not talk to her...you're done talking. start FUCKING.

    [–]GL_HaveFun 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Dood...the fact that you say "have not been GIVEN the chance to!" tells me that you literally are not able to do what you THINK you can to satisfy her.

    [–]Original_Dankster 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    She's trying to better HER sex life.

    Absolutely. She's not offering you let to fuck other women in front of her, now is she?

    AND DON'T THINK YOU CAN FUCK OTHER WOMEN AND IT WOULD BE "FAIR" FOR HER TO FUCK OTHE MEN. It doesn't work like that.

    Men reward women with exclusive protection and provisioning, women reward men with exclusive sex. Do you think she'd be ok if you took a four star vacation with that girl from work and started paying her living expenses? Of course not.

    [–]fuck_porn_ 14 points15 points  (7 children)

    sorry man, its over

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

    Read what you wrote out loud to yourself.

    [–]Elfclan30 9 points10 points  (4 children)

    go to the main sub and read the sidebar, sadly you are done...why not another woman to the bed? he...and it is clear like water why she is suggesting her ex...

    whoever sent you to this place loves you more than your wife.

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      LOL thanks. Everyone on this thread has been great. Some good advice during a tough time.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Thanks buddy. I will check it out. And i dont want another person just to get even. I want to satisfy my wife. hthe way she wants. Shes a very sexy woman.

      [–]bowie747 11 points12 points  (3 children)

      What the fuck. You're going to let your wife's ex boyfriend fuck her in front of you? Why are you even considering this.

      It doesn't matter if she's legitimately trying to spice things up or not. That's her ex. Boyfriend. Fucking her.

      There's other ways to spice up a sex life bro. I think your marriage is over.

      [–]knightSwolaire 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Could watch porn. Could not have another man in mind already. It's a million percent over.

      [–]RXRob 9 points10 points  (3 children)

      She wants you to watch her fuck her ex. She doesn't even respect you enough to hide it.

      Come home tonight with a girl on your arm. Tell your wife that you're going to fuck her. Let's see how liberal your other half is then.

      [–]hamstercide 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      she said she was thinking about bringing another man into the bedroom

      You're done. Secure your assets and prepare to separate. There is this famous story that emerged on reddit (I can't find a link or screencap to it right now but will post it later if I do) where a university professor and his wife entered an "open relationship" at his wife's suggestion. The result was disastrous: immediately the wife was fucking a different partner every other day while hubby got nothing, and their sex life at home went to lower than zero as his wife looked down upon him with disgust and contempt while being sexually satisfied by others. Don't be that guy.

      [–]lottsm 4 points5 points  (5 children)

      Sing the song (the chorus) to yourself...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA

      Starts at 1:09.

      [–]Askada 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      I am KIND OF up for it if it will make her happy

      Then you are stupid. The question is will it make YOU happy? If the answer is yes, then rethink it. It's not good idea.

      However, she wants it be someone we know who we can trust. She mentioned an ex boyfriend of hers who is a mutual friend of ours as a possibility

      Holy shit I knew this was coming before I have read it. And now, I'm pretty sure she already fucks him on a weekly basis and wants to bring him to your bed without having to hide it anymore. She wants him bad, thats obvious.

      is she really trying to better OUR sex life?

      No. She's trying to cuck you hard.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      Ha ha ha.

      What does your gut say. That part that you don't dare tell women, because they will shame you into being irrational, or some other bad thing?

      I guarantee you already know the answer here. The trick is to switch gears. Can you look at this 8 year marriage as the enemy now? Because it is.

      Unless you're truly ready to seek legal representation, protect your assets, have options with other women, and not give her the tools which she will use to beat you with, then you're going ot learn this the hard way.

      Think like the 300. You're already dead, your goal now is to fight to live again

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      The though of "getting things together" is in my head believe me. My guy says she still oves me but has an uncontrollable sex desire. If she wanted this guy regularly why would she throw this out as a one time?

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Dude, get your head out of your ass. How many different way you gotta hear it?

      [–]orezavi 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Ask her if she's willing to let you have another woman in bed with you guys.

      Edit: Someone a few levels hotter than her. And younger.

      [–]cozgw 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      OP please listen to the advice people are giving you. It is over. Be a man and get rid of her. Also you said her ex she wants to fuck is married? You should let his wife know. Go nuclear brah! Maybe try and fuck his wife?

      [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        LOL thanks for believing in me. I dont want any of this you fuck my wife i fuck yours. I want this crazy whorish idea out of her head and i want her to enjoy ME tearing up her pussy.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

        Your wife is a selfish evil cunt looking to cuck you.

        Sorry man.

        If it were me in your situation - I would have immediately refused and told her that I needed to re-evaluate whether or not I wanted the marriage.

        This isn't a person who loves you. This is a person who only cares about her own immediate wants and needs. She's probably already fucking around.

        The fact that you didn't counter with a divorce threat and are actually considering this insanity tells me everything I need to know.

        You have no self respect - and because of that she doesn't respect you either.

        Seriously, what kind of witch says "You don't fuck me well enough, I need to bring my ex into the bedroom so you can watch and learn"? Obviously not a person who gives one iota about your feelings.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

        Youre right about his. I have just been in "Did this just happen to me?" mode the last 3 days. I woke up to alot of replies this morning, i am going to write an updated post to generally address the situation and get to every0ne individually after.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

        The good news is - this is your wake up call. Sometimes we need these type of events to jar us into clarity.

        Me? It would be a deal breaker.

        Ever see the Hulk Meme where Ruffalo says "My secret is I'm always angry?"

        Well my secret to respect in a marriage is that "I'm always ready to leave it". I'm not talking about passive aggressive bullshit - I'm talking about God's honest willingness to do what is necessary to preserve your happiness and self-respect. If you aren't willing to do what it takes - then nobody will.

        What you should do is look at your wife and with genuine acceptance of this unwanted reality and state that you don't want to be in a marriage with someone who has that kind of blatant disregard for your well being. Not just that, that also it would be better if you found a woman who enjoyed being with you sexually. Being in a sexually incompatible marriage is not something you're interested in.

        Then grab your newly purchased gym bag and tell her when you get back from your work out you're going to want to talk about "what needs to happen next"

        Before you go through this event, consult with an attorney - and when you do sit down to have the "I don't think this is working out" talk with her, you can casually mention that to her.

        What this will do - will dread game the fuck out of her. The bottom line is - you need a wife who loves and respects you - who wants to make you happy - not this abusive, manipulative gaslighting bullshit. She's already shown by her actions that she's a terrible wife - and person for that matter. In this talk, you can't give her a condition that allows her back into your good graces - that door needs to appear closed to her. If your love and respect is something she wants, then that is something she needs to figure out how to do on her own. Even then, you shouldn't be so sure it's enough - whatever she does to try to fix things. At this point, how can you tell it's honest?

        If she tries to play it off as you overreacting you got to get super stone faced and serious and say No, what you did - what you tried to do - is a fucking deal breaker.

        EDIT: Also be prepared for all kinds of nasty head games because they are about to fly. Stay resolute.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Thanks a lot. Some good advice here. Hopefully no head games.

        [–]jaydent1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        You're getting cucked. The only reason you should even remotely consider this is if she also agrees to let you bring other women into bed. And even then, it still requires that you're ok with another man fucking your partner, and you're letting her trample all over you.

        You can take a couple things from all this.

        1. Your wife may or may not be already cheating on you with the ex. She seems to already know that he would be ok with that, despite him being married. How else would she know this.
        2. She wants rougher/kinkier sex from you. That may satisfy this urge. I think this is the number one thing to take from this.

        [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        My wife and I have a decent sex life.

        No you don't. Happy women don't ask their husband's blessing to cheat.

        Goes in spurts

        Bedroom regularly goes dead.

        we generally enjoy it when it happens

        You enjoy it when she throws you a bone. She pretends to be satisfied to keep you happy. And docile.

        We are an attractive couple.

        Physically, maybe. But you no longer give her tingles.

        This morning when we woke up, after talking about sex we had last nite, she said that she was thinking of “spicing things up” a little bit. I asked her what she meant, and she said she was thinking about bringing another man into the bedroom, no emotional strings attached. Right away my chin dropped at the thought of it, as i have never done this before. She said not to freak out, she read that many couples do it under agreed terms, and it betters their sex lives.

        Lol.

        I am KIND OF up for it if it will make her happy.

        Weakling.

        Don't make your wife happy by letting her fuck Chad Thundercock. Make her happy by being Chad Thundercock, and fucking her.

        However, she wants it be someone we know who we can trust.

        Let me guess, she sold that as the reason she already had the guy picked out.

        She mentioned an ex boyfriend of hers

        Hahahahahahahhahahhahhahhh you're a troll, aren't you? This can't be real. No one is this stupid.

        Good guy, we see him around mutual friends. Now the GOOD with this is, we know the guy and he respects me with my wife. Their time has passed. What WORRIES me about it is, from what my wife has told me about him, they had VERY rough sex. Kinky, even degrading stuff. Even her friends have told me when we first started dating in a joking manner.

        She is an alpha widow. You are nothing but the consolation prize.

        Women save the roughest, kinkiest, most degrading sex of their lives for the man they love the most. Female sexual depravity is the most accurate barometer of female love and desire.

        QUESTION: Is she trying to relive what she had with this guy?

        You know this already. You wouldn't be asking the question this way if you didn't already know this was the answer.

        You already knew what we were going to say. You are just too cowardly to face the fact that you were never your wife's first choice.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        No coward here at all. Read the post again, SHE said all this to ME as suggestions and i said absolutely not. i POSSIBLY agreed to another guy if he was a stranger. There are couples that enjoy threesomes, but not one time pussy poundings from ex lovers.

        [–]Solidgame 7 points8 points  (8 children)

        Read The Sex God Method for a start and give her the rough sex she is craving for

        [–]Blaat1985 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        She only wants Chads to do that to her, not her beta husband.

        [–]beginner_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        As other have said.disrespectful, she wants to up her sexlife not yours. She never thought your sex was good, she never thought you had a good marriage. She is an alpha widow. My personal opinion is having exes in friends circle is a stupid idea.

        As far as I can tell there are no kids involved? That should make the divorce much smoother. This is why you don't marry. You could have kicked her out (or moved) out as soon as possible.

        I'm shocked it hasn't been mentioned yet but it is entirely possible she already cheated and that she got pregnant "accidentally". If you approve her idea she later has an excuse when it might have happened. But it doesn't really matter as you need to get out of this mess ASAP.

        [–]Tiway22 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Shes already fucking him. Regardless, your marriage was over the second she brought it up with a guy in mind.

        [–]RPthrowaway123 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        She's probably already done it, lol. Sorry dude your marriage is fucked.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I hope not buddy, the thought has crossed my mind though.

        [–]BusterVadge 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        As others have mentioned, READ THE SIDEBAR! You'll understand why your wife is doing that (Alpha fucks/Beta Bucks dynamic). Once you go down this path, she's going to want to do even more and use the fact that you said yes to this guy as leverage.

        She wants your stability, and not your cock. I would consider divorce if I were you, as she already has, or is thinking about cheating on you

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Shes had stability our whole marriage. I just dont know where this came out of left field. We have really good sex, she just wants extreme.

        [–]verily_rp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Bringing an ex into your relationship, at any point in your relationship, is a bad idea.

        I hate to say this, but you probably need to know. She may have cheated on you already with him. Use trust but verify techniques.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I hope youre wrong on that but who knows.

        [–]SoRedSuchAlpha 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        You could make a counter offer that calls her bluff. Her ex doesn't have sex with her, he actually teaches. He doesn't tie her up and fuck her. He ties her up and YOU fuck her, then he shows you how to do the ties. He doesn't verbally degrade her in front of you, you have a private 1 on 1 chat with him and he tells you how he used to do it and answers question you might have about how it works.

        If she really wants you to learn and sees him as a resource she won't mind. If she wants an excuse to fuck him, she won't go for it.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Sounds good to me, but again, i dont want this at all in any way. That would probably bore her.

        [–]someboringdude 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Shes been fucking him. She just wants your permission. GROSS. next that whore.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I really hope thats not the case. She really wants this next level sex from me. i am good in bed, but this is an extreme level I have never done, but am willing. Why do i have to wwatch it?

        [–]play_time_is_over 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        She already slept with her ex boyfriend and now wants to intiate a threesome to make it okay. Basically if you ever discovered she cheated she could say they slept together before the threesome. This is a very common tactic women use.

        Your wife has cheated on you, or at least is olanning to very soon. She's already made the emotional decision to sleep with her ex. Handle that information as you will.

        [–]KartagoPill 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        CuckNation

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (14 children)

        Hi All...Thanks for all the replies that came in over nite. I will address you all individually in a bit. I read them all, and just wanted to make a few things clear that people are misunderstanding about me and this situation. I am NOT a cuck, nor do I have ANY desire to be. I am a fit, sexual guy who has always pleased my partners. I also an not being "passive" with her in anyway in this. Only in tone, not words. I told her, the answer is NO, and you need to find a fix for this "desire" very soon. I am calm but rigid in words because i dont want her rebelling and coming home to her setting it up on surprise god for bid. I know its not something that flicks off with a switch. She has a burning itch in her pussy right now, im a guy, i get it. She knows I will do anything she wants, but she says this guy gave her the most degrading rough fucks of her life and she wants me to please her in that way. And in her mind, watching him will be an good experience for me. She doesnt want to be bothered screening strangers and stuff. We know him, and she feels comfortable with that about the situation. She gets upset when we talked the last few days, i can see she doesnt want her marriage or what we have to end. She is just a woman who likes to be treated like a whore in bed on all counts. Its probably always been in her. But please understand my mind is in a fog right now. She has my answer, and i am giving her time to think and she knows if it happens where done. If i get all macho and yell at her, she will rebel and go behind my back. Then we are definitely done. I am a CEO and dont handle things like a loud asshole. I have a temper yes, but I am used to handling problems with my mind. This is my biggest challenge yet. If she wants to dress up in thing high boots with 8 inch heels, have me throw her down on the living room floor, hold her face in a pillow and say degrading things while i plow her from behind, she should tell me and we should experiment. I will do it. Sorry to get a little detailed, but it paints the picture of the "problem" better.

        [–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 13 points14 points  (2 children)

        You're already fucking up. Don't tell your wife no and "give her time to think".

        She's going to use that time to become a better liar, fuck the other guy (possibly again), and maybe even get her ducks in a row to surprise-divorce you. By giving her this notice, you're letting her know what she needs to keep from you and giving her time to do a good job at it.

        What you should have done, and should still do now, is the very moment she suggested this, you should have said, "This is a lot. Let me think about this" and said nothing else. You then should have met with a lawyer and began getting your ducks in a row to surprise-divorce her.

        Women don't want a man who needs to be taught how to be a man. Women want a man who "just gets it". You don't just get it. You've thought, for years, that you have a strong marriage and a great sex life. She's merely tolerated you due to the stability your provide, and let you ignorantly believe she's been happy.

        She, on her own initiative, has been contacting her ex, who she still remembers fondly, and has set up a sexual encounter with him, behind your back. She is now asking for your permission to consummate that sexual encounter. To placate you, she is pretending that the purpose of this arranged sexual encounter is to teach you how to fuck like a real man, but as I've said, women don't want a fake man who's pretending to be a real man because he was taught. They want to get fucked by a man who's actually a real man. A man who gets it.

        Make no mistake -- the purpose of this arranged sexual encounter has nothing to do with you. It's about her getting fucked the way she wants by a man she wants, while retaining the financial benefits of a continued marriage with you. And there's a good chance she's already fucked the guy, probably more than once, and is now retroactively seeking your permission so that if you ever find out she's been cheating, she can be a little hazy about the order in which things happened. This makes a lot of sense because the guy's in your friend circle, so there's a good chance you'd find out about the cheating if she tried to keep hiding it.

        She doesn't want to get fucked roughly by you. She wants to get fucked roughly by a real man, not a pretender. She's just telling you what she thinks is going to get her what she wants.

        Turn your fucking computer off and go see a lawyer.

        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Goddamn, man. She's actively been making plans to fuck her married ex boyfriend in front of you. A few questions for you:

        1. Why her ex boyfriend and not a stranger? That's not going to make it easier, that's going to make it awkward as shit when you cross paths again. A: He's an old ex, they had awesome sex and she wants to fuck him again, guilt-free.

        2. Why does she assume he's okay with this? He's married, surely it's not the case that she just rang him up and asked if he wanted to fuck? A: They've been planning it together; given the previous point this wasn't done for your sake.

        3. Why not just watch amateur porn? How is that any different to her and a friend? A: See point 1; "it's not the same" is not an answer. You can fuck her as roughly as her ex did, but that's still not going to be the same, is it?

        4. If she doesn't want to ruin your marriage, why would she even consider disrespecting you so badly? A: Because she doesn't respect you enough to find a reasonable alternative.

        Looking at it completely objectively, all signs point to her cheating on you with this guy. If you want to confirm it, have a look through her messaging services (facebook, whatsapp, texts, even things like instagram or snapchat). While it may not be physical, I can say with certainty that it's emotional - she's not over this guy, she suggested him specifically because they had great sex, and she wants you to validate her feelings.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Good answers to your questions, i have to say. Her thoughts like i said are a one time thing for me to watch what she wants, and who better to do it than someone we know who, in her words "knows how to fuck".Our sex life IS good for the standars of most people, trust me. This guy was just an extreme. Hard poundings, tie ups, hair pulling, even mad friends and made them verbally degrade her. THAT i would never do though.

        [–]graffix13 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        and you need to find a fix for this "desire" very soon.

        There are only really 2 ways to 'fix' this. You either:

        1. Get a divorce (probably the best option now)

        2. Throw her down and bury her face in the pillow while you pull her hair, spank her ass, choke the shit out of her, and call her a whore (this would be the more fun, temporary option). Basically you need to be rougher with her than her ex was (who she is obviously thinking of).

        This is all probably hard to hear but your marriage is done now. There really is no going back. You can deny reality and bury your head in the sand but it's not going to change this fact.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Number two is my first choice buddy, but not at the moment unfortunately. Should should have come out and said she wants this type of sex. Amybe when i came home fromwork one day i would just throw down my work bag, lock th ebedroom door and give it to her wthout saying a word.

        [–]maxofreddit 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Haven't had a chance to go through all the replies yet, but I'll just relate my story (parallel to yours)

        A while my my wife essentially said, "It's ok if you grab me hard & push on my neck." Now I'm not a rough guy, and at the time is was quite "beta," but I figured she wanted it so I started playing aroud with it. She fuckin LOVED it.

        A few years later, she brings up back door action. I assumed it was totally off limits, and simply had never brought it up. Turns out she comes HARD that way, and some nights wants it that way more than regular sex.

        Same thing with tying her down to the bed & having my way with her.

        She's provided a little crack in the door of what she wants sexually, and honestly it's up to you, as the fuckin man, to not only open that door, but pull her through with you as well. Sure you're going to fuck it up a little here and there. But my best advice to you? (not that you asked for it, but we're all giving it anyway)

        Go monk mode for a week. In that time, do your research, watch the rough porn, or how to vids of whatever. DON'T TELL HER YOU'RE DOING THIS. She wants you to be the Alpha fucker, and "checking in" ain't that. At the end of the week, tell her, "The safe word is 'pineapple'" or whatever other word she won't yell accidentally. Then FUCK her.

        Don't have sex, for fuck's sake don't make love, FUCK TH SHIT OUT OF HER. All that "handling problems with you mind" ain't going to work here.

        ... throw her down on the living room floor, hold her face in a pillow and say degrading things while i plow her from behind

        She wants this so fucking bad that she said she wants go outsdie the mariage to get it. She doesn't want to TALK about it, she just wants you to take fucking control and DO IT. All the CEO Human Resource committee meetings are OUT THE WINDOW when it comes to fucking your wife. SHE WANTS YOU TO BE THE ASSHOLE when it comes o the bedroom (your not, by the way, that's just how YOU perceive it, she perceives it as strength & it ges her vagina dripping wet).

        She wants to "show you" how to do it (with someone else), because she just can't conceive that you could pull it off. She doesn't see you as aggressive or dangerous or any of that. You needto really feel that fucking anger way down deep, and fuck her from that spot of anger, aggressiveness, and I-don't-give-a-fuck-about-you-I'm -fucking-you-for-ME, place.

        TL;DR - - If you do this, if you can FUCK HER like the whore that she wants to be treated like, she will quite literally fight wolves off your dead body.

        I've been through it, and trust me, I was surprised that my Standford educated, feminist wife wanted to be FUCKED, aggressively, she wants to be overpowered.

        If you pull this off, head over to /r/kink or /r/bdsm. They were wonderfully helpful for me.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        After all th eporn ive watch since i was a kid, and the women i had before her, believe me i have seen and done a lot of thing. I could definitely give her the "i dont give a fuck about you you piece of shit" sex she wants. All she ahs to do is tell me she wants it like that and we can get something going in our regular routine. I am a highly sexual guy with lots of dirty thoughts running through his head, even for my wife.

        [–]BestSC86 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        "If she wants to dress up in thing high boots with 8 inch heels, have me throw her down on the living room floor, hold her face in a pillow and say degrading things while i plow her from behind, she should tell me and we should experiment"

        Bhahahahahahah....no wonder she went looking for a real alpha.....you really have no freaking clue.

        Good for her that you are a CEO...that means that she and her ex can use all that alimony, she is going to rape from you, to go to the Island where he can freak the hades out of her while laughing at your wussy self for paying for it all will make the sex even hotter.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Cmon, what the “you have no freaking clue” all about? We do kinky shit together. This guy is on an extreme level i told you.

        [–]YouDislikeMyOpinion 1 point2 points  (10 children)

        To answer your question, I think this has more to do with him than with you.

        She craves that rough, kinky, degrading stuff. He's in her life so that feeling gets amplified. But it's interesting that one of her options was to introduce this into your 2 person sex life, but she went straight to the three way plan. Which begs the question of is she into the degrading stuff, is she into 3 ways, or is she into her ex.

        Other than that, I want to say that this is literally a nightmare scenario for some guys in marriages. They fear the day it comes that their wife wants to add #3 ex.

        [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        QUESTION: Is she trying to relive what she had with this guy? Or is she really trying to better OUR sex life?

        She's trying to better HER sex life by getting some strange, and having you approve it by agreeing to be cucked.

        Tell her the only three-way you will agree to involves you, her, and a smokeshow of a woman.

        [–]empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (6 children)

        The thing is, it sounds like even if you had the perfect sex life and all that shit, she is simply bored and wants variety again. She wants her ex and has hamstered the idea over time that it's ok, assuming she hasn't already got with him.

        It could happen to any married man. And it does. Even if they're the epitome of alpha, you can't win. Seen plenty examples here of alpha motherfuckers who got cucked or chucked and didn't even know about it. Your wife has actually brought it up (at least).

        There's a long thread I read yesterday again. If you go on the redpill main sub and organise by top post, you will find the story of the guy who's wife planned a cheat on him for months with another guy. Once she did it, she was over it and expected everything to go back to normal. She built up her fantasy, got it and in the process initiated the divorce by him. After it was done, sure it was fun, but it obviously wasn't worth where she ended up. But women don't see the bigger picture here, they're emotional, not logical, and live in fantasies like this one.

        [–]scrodzilla 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        from what my wife has told me about him, they had VERY rough sex. Kinky, even degrading stuff. Even her friends have told me when we first started dating in a joking manner.

        How bad of a red flag is it that she still hangs out with her ex that used to rail her, everyone knows it and "jokes" about it?

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        Tell her bringing someone in the bedroom is a wonderful idea and you know just the younger more beautiful girls to ask, thank her and tell her it had been on your mind as well that fucking someone younger would get you off a lot faster instead of the same old

        [–]Yashugan00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I swear these posts are repeating themselves. There has got to be some standard copy pasta to save these guys by now. Sidebar ---> NOW! Your mind will explode, welcome to the real, see you when you've passed anger phase.

        [–]clint_bronson 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Do you know what self respect is? If you do, do you think you have any? I am appalled at the thought that you have not left your wife and divorced her after she told you that she WANTS to CHEAT on you, and to add insult to injury she wants you to watch!!

        Think about it, because i don't think you have. And keep us updated, though i wouldn't be surprised if we never heard from you ever again.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Thanks for the reply. I just put up a new post seconds ago addressing this. She says it snot cheating because she asked me first to consent to it.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        All the advice I would give you does not apply, because you are married. Any nuclear level dread game you would need to run, in order to salvage this burning shit heap, would only help her in court. Please contact a lawyer, and work towards protecting your assets. Do you have children with her.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Yes we have two daughters. 5 and 7.

        [–]RedPimpin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        alright brother listen

        imagine you went up to her and said " i want to invite a escort here, only one time and you can watch us have sex.. she will show you how to do it better than you"

        what does that say? you're not loyal, your relationship is broken etc etc.. she would probably break up with you just for the thought of it

        here you are, saying you have a "wonderful relationship"

        dont be an idiot

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Im not being an idiot. And yeah she probably would say that unles it was her thing. We have great sex. We do stuff most couples probably wouldnt.

        [–]nightmancommeth 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Can someone provide the link to the story where the guy allowed himself to get cucked in the same situation and now hates his wife with a passion.

        If you are not into cuck dont do it!

        [–]leflegjones 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        If she already hasn't cheated on you with him, she is bored with you. DO NOT DO THIS!!!

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        We have better sex that probably a lot of people around us. I have always satisfied my women. But this guy was extreme with her. Fucked her and degraded her till she couldnt walk. If she wants that from me like she says, lets experiment. Tell me.

        [–]DennisReynoldsAMA 1 point2 points  (5 children)

        Don't do it you cuck

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        Im not. Trying to get it out of her head or were done. It hurts saying that.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 1 point2 points  (7 children)

        I am KIND OF up for it if it will make her happy.

        Bro.

        You're up for another man's dick being inside your wife?

        I hope this can be nixed and your marriage can be saved. Not trying to be a dick, but she does not love you like you think she does.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

        No not at all in my head. But if a threesome is what she desires, and not specifically her ex boyfriend fucking her btains out in front of me, i may have considered it under certain circumstances. But nowhere near on my list of first choice. I fuck my wifes pussy, nobody else in my mind.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorseattleron 1 point2 points  (5 children)

        The only 3some you should have considered was one with another female.

        [–]brooklynisburnin 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        She already cheated on you with that guy, now she wants to do it "legally".

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        I hope not. But the thought is in my head unfortunatley. But why woudl a cheater "ask" to cheat? Why not just say "lets have a threesome. it will get us off."?

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        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        I can see that. But how much is enough? She never even told me she wants to do stuff at that level. We probably have hotter sex than most people I know. If she wants to be wildly throat fucked, tied up and have her pussy pounded, and have me degrade her verbally, I will. Just tell me.

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          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          I am just HOPING theres no evidence. We have rough sex at times, but this guy was on an extreme level. All she needs to do is talk to me. I dont need to see her pussy get destroyed while she screams in half pleasure half pan and get slapped around.

          [–]ecosci 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          She is already fucking other men and actually wants you to leave her what big balls she has telling you that shit dont be a fool man shes bored and whats to humiliate you infront of another guy i just cant believe ya find another respectful lady i always say they do crazy shit for alpha dick your wife included she cant wait until you divorce her azz, hard next,um 2 beers please.

          [–]the-bum-hammer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          The amount of denial from OP is making the entire earth's testosterone drop.

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          I see your point with the car analogy. Good one. I'm hoping she gets this out of her head or some resolution to do so very soon. Aft reading posts n here about it possibly going on already it does scare me. I gave her my anger of no, now the ball is in her court.

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          [–]nummas 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          Yeah well the crew here has spoken and are pretty much in agreement. How about you counter offer and arrange so both of you can watch her ex fuck another woman. Thats just as educational in my eyes and she won't be fucking him in front of you and you will get a good idea how she wants it. If she is happy to do that then it's something, if she doesn't like that idea then it just backs up what everyone else here is saying how she wants to fuck her ex, if she isn't already. Let us know what she says.

          [–]Kosnagoo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          It's not your fault, and yet it is. Welcome to red pill.

          [–]sihitu123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Man, feels like we havent had this kinda thread for a while, it's so, how do you say it, cliche.

          [–]Apanthropos 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          If you are really considering this, tell her that you would also like to try a threesome with a FMF dynamic.

          Find a hot 18 yearold to spice up your sex life. If she agrees and actually goes through with it, then you are obviously not a cuck.

          [–]koppok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Do not feed the troll.

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          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          You are a huge moron, also - she already has a man in mind for probably a few weeks / months already. Have fun being cucked.

          [–]bidric 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          The moment she suggested you should've been mentally divorced already.

          The fact that you're even considering it makes you convey sooooo much weakness.

          [–]SemperPrimus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I am not married nor was I ever in the past, I'm 27. So I suppose you can take my advice with a grain of salt but at this moment when I hear something like that the only thing I can think of are 3 things

          1)Protect my assets

          2)Lawyer up

          3)End it

          [–]walkingthelinux 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          lol. You up for sitting in a corner masturbating while she gets plowed? Because that's what she is looking for here.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          Absolutely not! But according to her, wherever she gotthe logic from, "coiples come out of things like this with improved sex lives." Yeah, worse ones to.

          [–]walkingthelinux 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Dude, the fact that you even need to ask about this and have not dumped her shows that you are a cuck at heart.

          So allow your little whore to get back on the CC. It's going to happen either way. Your only choice here is if you want to be there to watch it.

          This is about her dissatisfaction with YOU and nothing else.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Hey, thanks for the comment. I just up up a new post minutes ago addressing this.

          [–]mabden 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          she was thinking of “spicing things up” a little bit

          There are plenty of ways to accomplish this without making you a cuck. Read the Sex God Method by Daniel Rose

          I am KIND OF up for it if it will make her happy

          And how will this make you happy?

          Is she trying to relive what she had with this guy?

          Yes.

          is she really trying to better OUR sex life?

          No, she is trying to better HER sex life.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Kind of up for it meant, IF WE DO IT, it would have to be a stranger who we never saw again, not some ex who we run into on occasion who fucked her senseless every day.

          [–]justnotsureok 0 points1 point  (12 children)

          Ok so I have a question. I love talking dirty to my wife about her fucking another dude. I even talk to her about it being one of my friends. She goes along with it, but doesn't really get into it like I do. In the end, it would never happen. What are the opinions on that?

          [–]cavscout55 2 points3 points  (10 children)

          You're being a Blue pill beta. She doesn't get into it because she doesn't respect it. No alpha has a cuck fetish.

          [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          You have been cucked. I guarantee it. I am quite experienced in the "wilder" sexploits. If a girlfriend wants to experience her (ubiquitous) fantasy of two cocks, she would want it to be a complete stranger...as in you guys go on vacation somewhere and seduce a stranger, etc. Your relationship is no longer monogamous, sorry.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          A stranger i would consider, but not an ex, who we run into sometimes, who destroyed her pussy 7 days a week, and made her walk around in public with no panties underneath in case he got the urge to fuck her. I cant face a guy like that.

          [–]knightSwolaire 0 points1 point  (6 children)

          OP you are such a pussy little boy. It's obvious from your responses. And it's the reason your wife wants to fuck another man.

          Redeem yourself and end this

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

          Theres a marriage at stake here that was thrown a curve ball a few days ago. Shaken up big time. Im no pussy at all. I told her no and to get help or were done.

          [–]knightSwolaire 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          And that's the wrong answer. Does gay conversion therapy work? No. Do you think a therapist will cure your wife?

          You came to TRP and we are telling you it's over.

          Maybe try /r/relationships/

          [–]dongpal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          im amazed people even discuss this obvious trap

          [–]mksu 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          fellas stop feeding the troll

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Troll police...Grab your smart phone, take a long walk off a short pier and go find some Pokemon. Im here for marital advice in a crisis.

          [–]pbgswd 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          offer an alternative. Get into your local kink scene and learn how to play in public play dungeons and fetish parties. Make it something you do together. Tell her no to the ex bf, she cant go back on that, but you would go forward in to the local kink scene, maybe do things with others from there.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Theres an idea, but i dont even think it was dungeon type stuff. He just reated her like shit, talked real dity to her and fucked her till she couldnt walk.

          [–]KumonRoguing 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          Your relationship is over. This question pops up here way too often. If she asks to fuck another guy, it's over.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          Yes i know. I have made this clear to her. She needs help or we are done.

          [–]KumonRoguing 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Should be done already. The thought has tainted her mind.

          [–]NolanKnowstheTruth 0 points1 point  (5 children)

          "Even her friends have told me when we first started dating in a joking manner." Why did you even continue with her at this point, and why would you allow her to keep him around? Dude, your sex life isn't decent. She is, in affect, telling you that you don't know how to fuck properly and that you need lessons from her close, ex-boyfriend.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

          Why wouldnt i continue with her? Everyone has a sexual past and sometimes people joke about it around friends. Guys do it too. We hit it off, we dated, we got married. She wants next level sex and asked if i would watch this. I am in tOTAL disagreeance for obvious reasons, but there are people out there who are into it. She took a shot. I said NO WAY. She needs help or were done.

          [–]BestSC86 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Hamster alert......this one is running wild.

          This ho found herself a true, live betabucks for the ages....no wonder her friends are laughing.

          Dude they are not laughing with you...they are laughing AT YOU.

          Bhahahahhahahahhaaaa....I need to meet this chick, she sounds like a fun weekend....wonder if she has any slots available, not likely her card is most likely full.

          [–]NolanKnowstheTruth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Her friends joked about it because you are nothing like the ex-bf. And her is the important part...You never will be. He is the alpha stud, making ex-girlfriends wish they could fuck him again and you are the guy who needs to take lessons from him. She wants to take your sex to the next level alright, just not with you.

          [–]Apexk9 0 points1 point  (4 children)

          Say you want to try with another women. Then after you do it say you can't do this..

          But bro your wife's a whore.

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