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LTR of 1 year tells me last minute she's going out to get drunk with her friend. I dump her. (self.asktrp)

submitted by addwater

Really battling with the decision I just made and It was extremely hard but I decided to end things with my LTR of one year after she crossed a major boundary.

She's thrown out little testers here in the past to gauge my response but nothing quite nuclear like this.

I'm in another state for a week or two getting surgery, she couldn't come with me due to work.

I asked her tonight what she was up to and she tells me last minute "I'm going with my female friend to such and such a club to get crunk". (Crazy drunk).

I really didn't know how to handle this and it completely threw me off guard as she's been nothing shy of a great LTR up until now (Lot's of attention, affection, comfort tests, favours, sex).

I didn't want to do anything stupid like throw out ultimatums or deny her night out so I simply called her immediately and told her she wasn't what I was looking for in a girlfriend and promptly ended it. (Naturally my phone blew up after this. I ignored.)

It really hurt, but I'm hoping I did the right thing. Despite all the positive behaviour signs from her, I just consider this completely unacceptable dropping this on me (not asking) at the last possible minute. And only after I asked her.

I can tolerate an LTR going out in general, seeing friends, but putting yourself in such a position like this with lots of alcohol involved without myself present can surely only lead to sex or lots of male attention at the very least.

This disappoints me so much. I feel like I really ran this relationship well and instilled so many Red Pill traits and I'm mad that in the end I was still put in a lose/lose situation.

I really just want some advice right now on whether I may have overreacted or what you would have done personally in this situation.

Edit: whether you agreed of disagreed with my actions I really appreciate all the input here. I'm extremely surprised about how many of you nailed it in terms of the situation and my feelings towards it all. I really resonated with a lot of you. Thank you.

As predicted, LTRs friends and family are now contacting me and trying to shame me into contacting LTR again or reversing my decision. Naturally I remained completely unreactive and politely reiterated my stance. Now I am ignoring such messages.

Edit 2: One final thing I'd like to add to this is that although my decision may have seemed abrupt, I had already considered that this would be a possibility one day and also how I would react, hence why I didn't hesitate in ending the relationship immediately.

Those who are saying I must have a real abundance mentality, I have to be honest and say although my mindset is solid, I am far from having other options at this stage. What I do have is Red Pill knowledge and the core belief that I can do better and that this behavior will only lead to me getting hurt. Also the belief that I can start again, improve myself even more, and find a better quality girl.


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[–]babybopp 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I keep saying this here and I hope people remember this..

When a perp confesses to smoking weed to a cop, it is because he does not want the cop to find his heroin stash...

OP when your girl confesses to a smaller thing... it is because she does not want you to find out she has been riding the CC and now she is guilty. She wants to confess to a lesser crime and use the apology to absolve her from her greater crime mentally.

[–]PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My thoughts exactly. Every mans gut feeling will say that this is off behavior. But few will act on it. Girl got BTFO.

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock 55 points56 points  (4 children)

If women wanted to get drunk just for fun, they'd do it at a friends house. A bar or club is a socially acceptable mating ground. Every attempt to go there has "if I find some dick, that wouldn't be terrible" laced in it.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think GNOs at classy bars with craft cocktails and good live music are fine but getting hammered at a nightclub is definitely slut behavior.

[–]515sofar 1 point2 points  (1 child)

what?? Its much more fun to go to a club than drinking at a mates.

[–]alternativeuniversek -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Or perhaps it's because sometimes people want to find a place with air conditioning.

[–]fakefalse 118 points119 points  (22 children)

I respect OP's difficult decision.
He offered no ultimatums. He was not controlling her. She demonstrated low value. He's free to find and invest in something better.

[–]1DonaldBaelish 38 points39 points  (21 children)

I honestly don't know if OP has stated his boundary. Because If she knew that he does not tolerate such behaviour, she would not have done it.

I've always set my boundaries in the beginning, when they should be set. If OP has explicitly told the girl that he does not approve women who club and get drunk and she did exactly that, yeah he did the right decision.

[–]landon042 24 points25 points  (2 children)

all women know club slut behavior isnt ltr behavior, she ended the relationship and was probably going to turn him into cuck.

op called it and now she's just a slut swimming in the ocean alone.

summary: op made the right move and much respect over the loads of pussy stories of oneitis here guys are scared to say no and end things

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Eh, all women don't know shit and do stupid shit all the time. "Slutty club behavior" is perfectly normalized in today's feminist society. If OP didn't state this boundary before hand she could simply be ignorant that a high value male wouldn't tolerate that. Low value men would tolerate this without second thought.

[–]maxisacatt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well know she knows, and yet she still won't give a fuck in the future.

[–]ItsTheHomeWrecker 29 points30 points  (6 children)

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[–]RedPillFather 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is spot on. My daughter's mom was gas lighting me about something (vaping). Lying to my face. I caught her. I will be plating.

[–]1DonaldBaelish 1 point2 points  (4 children)

This is why when we buy a dog , we are supposed to teach him how to behave. This is why we use the Reward Good Behaviour / Punish Bad Behaviour. Do you expect the dog to just sit / lay / bark whenever you tell him, withot being taught?

Women don't deserve to know that we have had emotional misgivings about their behaviour. It is a weakness.

However , expectations should be voiced and sure are not a weakness.

[–]ItsTheHomeWrecker 1 point2 points  (3 children)

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[–]1DonaldBaelish 2 points3 points  (2 children)

If your girl goes on a GNO and you cut her off from your life without saying anything , that is not setting a non-verbal boundary. That is hard nexting.

[–]ItsTheHomeWrecker 0 points1 point  (1 child)

deleted What is this?

[–]1DonaldBaelish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And how do you reinforce your boundaries when tested?

[–]joyrider5 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Understandable.

Yet OP's stance is, women don't make it clear what they consider a low value man to be, why should OP make it clear what he considers a low value woman to be?

At the end of the day it is a question as to if you want a girl to do as you tell them to (or at least create the appearance that they are) or if you want a girl to be what you want them to be without you telling them.

I'm not sure if there is a right or wrong answer to that question, and honestly I am not even sure where I stand personally on it. After marriage I can only assume that a woman's true personality will reveal itself more, or if she was lying/faking that will eventually be revealed, so I lean towards OP's way of doing it if marriage is in the picture.

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although OP had a point , one might even say a fair point, forgoing relationships to keep things fair is silly. Besides what low value males are are basically self explanatory. Just there are lots of low value women and men aren't trained to recognize it.

[–]LordThunderbolt 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Do you need to tell your child not to poop on your pillow for them not to do it? No, it should be an automatic no in their head. Only a deranged child would install a wet mud monkey on your pillow.

It's the same thing for a gf. If she doesn't know better than to not do dumb shit like that she's just not gf material. Can't turn a hoe into a housewife.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

HAHA. Exactly, this. Women are a lot smarter than men think they are and they know what is right or wrong in a relationship. Same as how a woman knows it's not acceptable to flirt with other guys in front of you, or sit on another guy's lap.

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Clubbing is the rare exception. It's normalized for people of relationships to go out with single women to be wing women. A destructive lie by mainstream society is, fuck y'all I do what I want . Get with it or get out.

Women dont understand this goes both ways. He won't stop her, but he will break up with her if she goes out clubbing/drinking. It's a bed for cheating, nothing good happens there, you will be endlessly hit on, etc. Women who are with high value men and introverted enough would be agreeable to this. Not all women enjoy clubbing.

[–]SexistFlyingPig 12 points13 points  (5 children)

I think that stating a boundary is mate guarding.

Instead his behavior said that she was free to do whatever she wanted to do. He then decided that he didn't want to be with someone who, while in a committed long-term relationship, would go out with her girlfriend to get drunk at a club. If she wants to do that, she's craving lots of attention from strange guys, and is clearly looking for something beyond what he has to offer. He says that's fine, but he doesn't want to be her doormat to return to when she's done fucking other guys.

Good job OP.

[–]1DonaldBaelish 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Maybe you never had LTRs.

"Sometimes you have to sit her down and clearly articulate what your boundaries are , that trust is something hard to build , yet fragile and easily broken. Basically let her know in clear terms what your standards and expectations of behaviour are on her part and what will happen if she fails to measure up."

/u/bsutansalt

[–]SexistFlyingPig 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Maybe you're of the school that thinks that relationship problems can be solved with more communication. Maybe therapy, where a disinterested third party can pore over the details of your relationship and you can talk about it and everything will be better.

Sure, you can tell her, "If you go out clubbing with your girlfriend, and you get drunk, then we're through." You can deliver any ultimatum you want. Then she can feel trapped and manipulated, and she can play the victim and complain to all her friends about you.

If that works well, then maybe you can tell her what time to be home each night, and what she can and can't wear when she goes out or when she goes to work. Maybe you can tell her what job she can go for, what career to pursue. Maybe, if she's good, you can tell her what kinds of boys she can date.

Or, you can treat her like a woman, and you can judge her by her actions. You can decide whether you want to continue a relationship with her based on those actions.

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Without women having been taught from their mothers how to behave right , it could fall onto a man's shoulders to teach the woman right from wrong, as long as shes young (easily malleable) , open minded, good values to begin with, rejects feminists propaganda to an extent - and it could be worth it to guys who hate plate spinning but having trouble finding a suitable partner of decent attractiveness.

[–]1DonaldBaelish 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Listen , I am not telling you to be possessive. Voicing expectations and throwing ultimatums will never be the same thing. Setting boundaries and controlling her existance will also never be the same thing.

You need to teach your LTR to behave. It has been repeated way too much. Most people probably misunderstand it , because they take the word "teach" way too literally. It is all about gentle manipulation , reward/punish , soft nexting if needed , attention withdrawal , even sex withdrawal. It is not "In my relationship , I have these rules. You don't drink. You don't go out. You ask me for everything." But I am absolutely sure that you know that things used to be like this just 50 years ago.

I am thinking critically of OP's situation. He never mentioned if she has ever clubbed inside his 1 year relationship. He does not state if this happens once in a blue moon or if it was for the first time ever. Because in today's age , the female imperative made going to clubs something acceptable. It is absolutely your resposinibility to voice your opinion if you do not tolerate those who play by the new rules.

In the end of the day , however , I am confident in saying that he did the right thing , as I somehow missed the information that he is out of state for surgery.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Women are so prey to peer pressure and short sighted/solipsistic. I'd bet a dollar that this is a slutty/attention whore friend or a friend that just got out of a relationship, and she talked your girlfriend into it with all kinds of usual BS.

Women have forgotten how things look to others and to the men in their lives, and they expect total trust until caught red handed doing something unforgivable.

I think you showed abundance here. If you are okay with not being an a LTR now and you are not okay with a GF that will periodically do dumb shit, then I'd stick with your decision. She will try hard to get you back though. Thing is, if she went out after you broke up with her, then the chances that she got fucked by a random dude just went up. I can't see myself taking her back after that.

[–]PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't underestimate the damage a slutty friend can do. I dated a girl once who had a big fight for a year with one. Had no issues with her, then suddenly those two made up and now she needed a fellow party girl. To bad her old bff was dating me now, well that one got solved real quick!

Last time I heard from her she told me she was doing drugs and fooling around with boys.

[–]Hunter2isit 35 points36 points  (13 children)

So you are in another state, you call her to ask her to come see you and she said she was going out with friends, you said "i'm out". The gist?

That ^ feels a bit robot to me. You mentioned a boundary but didn't say if you told her the boundary and said that you expect her to know. That sounds like BP thinking. Expectations / covert contracts. That said if you wanted out then you wanted out which makes this post an excuse you aren't owning. So own it. Say I don't like girls who club, my LTR said she wanted to club while I was out of the state, I dropped her.

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (9 children)

Some guys want a girl that naturally acts correctly. My ex flirted with dudes in front of me. It was a boundary that I shouldn't have to tell her about.

EDIT: Also, if you tell a girl all your boundaries up front, then what you get is a pretend version of her at first. It will encourage her to hide things and lie. You tell her you don't like a GF to talk to her exes or hang out with other guys alone? Well, guess what she is gonna do with her phone, if she in fact is talking to an ex? She's gonna make settings changes or install some app so that you won't know that she talks to her last ex about once a week. If you want to know how someone really is, then the best thing to do is set back in a nonjudgmental stance and observe their natural behavior.

[–]egoisenemy 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I agree and it's not just her saying hey boyfriend I'm having a night out with the ladies. she demonstrates sketch not cool gf/ low value by saying yea so bf ima get sup3r fucked up with only one of my gf at a club so peace. what a joke; clubs are full of hot dudes with good game. if she wants to willingly put herself in such a situation and not just get drunk but crazy drunk, then OP deserves better.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Yep, never knew a keeper that set out to get plastered, especially in public like that. Also, with only one GF with her, she should know that they will get separated from each other at least a few times over the night. And that's when the dudes swoop in.

I read here once that women often don't set out to cheat. They just put themselves in bad situations and it just happens (part of their hamster and plausible deniability even to themselves). Doing this is like reckless driving. If you do it repeatedly, then eventually an "accident" will happen, but it is not an accident because in the larger sense it is totally predictable.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It is less like reckless driving, and more like drunk driving. People who drive drunk aren't out to look for an accident, but they are way more likely to get in one, and they should know better.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it's one of the reasons they like bad boys. They'll hang with him and next thing you know she's doing coke off his dick. She then blames her behavior on him

[–]basebool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats more of an obvious boundary. Getting drunk with your females depends on the male there. I feel he was too hasty but clearly he is okay with it and will probably be okay after this.

[–]squidracer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, you shouldn't have to tell a grown up how to behave.

[–]landon042 1 point2 points  (0 children)

any semi intelligant girl at rpwomen would know all of this, you don't have to say it, you got it 100%

let the cucks get the "girls front"

[–]All_Ads_Deceive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes you can only expect a women to change somethings for you. Women who talk with exs, hang out with guys alone, party with her sloot friends, etc. are not LTR material. You can't just set boundaries and expect them to change.

[–]Dr_Frogstein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This. I don't get all the people commenting in this thread showing they have no fucking clue about the concept of abundance. Practice wtf is on the God damn side bar. There is a TRP gold standard for a fucking reason, it increases the chance of a successful LTR being worth the investment, and it is a BIG FUCKING INVESTMENT.

All these over analytical questions are irrelevant. I credit OP for having the balls to practice what people on TRP preach.

[–]LordThunderbolt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you have to tell her to not be a thot you already lost.

[–]beginner_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By your logic if my LTR doesn't tell me it's wrong it's perfectly fine if I have an escort once a week?

[–]AgainstItAllAgain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you gotta teach every dog not to shit in the house they don't already know

[–]squidracer 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I don't blame you. When my last ltr started all of a sudden going out with her new friend I should've ended it sooner..

[–]Dr_Frogstein 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Learning the hard way is what created TRP.

[–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly have yet to find a man who 'just knew' only those with allot of luck until it runs out. Even Chad learns the hard way. I was Chad and I fucked up majorly in my first relationship. Getting a degree in bitch management takes time.

[–]All_Ads_Deceive 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When a girl isn't a party girl but suddenly becomes one when her bf is gone, that's a huge red flag. Perfect example of female solipsism. She's single when bf is gone. This is why LDRs don't work and why chicks going on party vacations with friends are unacceptable.

[–]mksu 15 points16 points  (0 children)

No you didn't overreact. It shows you know very clearly what your deal breakers are and you acted on it promptly.

[–]Cunt_Robber 12 points13 points  (17 children)

Hey man, sorry about the breakup. At least if you decide you overreacted you can blame it on pain meds right?

Did you trust her? From the behavior you displayed (you going nuclear like that raises a red flag for me) I would assume you didn't trust her, therefore there wasn't much LTR potential with her to begin with. Maybe you didn't realize it.

Was her going out to get crunk a once-in-a-blue-moon ordeal, or is she one of those girls who likes to go out frequently and likes the nightlife? In that latter case, she wasn't LTR material to begin with, and you should've instead plated her and set clear boundaries. I made that mistake with my last relationship: everyone (+ my gut) saw this girl as too immature, too "free-spirited" (when you hear that word you know theyre a slut) as she called herself, to take on the responsible behavior of someone relationship-worthy. Also we were too young to actually function as a LTR. I went nuclear and ended it abruptly. It comes to a point where you realize you're being retarded letting yourself get dragged through drama and heartache repeatedly, and you take responsibility for yourself and hit abort.

Regardless, sounds like you saved yourself some headaches from dealing with her behaviors. Now think ahead: if she tries to get in touch, will you cave? Would you want to keep her around as a plate or hard next/no contact? Would you be open to discussing restarting the relationship? -- go over these things in your head and set a clear frame for yourself going forward to make sure you take responsibility and stick to your decisions, avoid drama/headaches, and not waste further resources on the matter. Be as efficient as possible in your actions.

Edit: hope your surgery went well man.

[–]LordThunderbolt 10 points11 points  (16 children)

Get out of your feelings man. You're asking a bunch of dumb beta questions. Who cares about all that shit? Way the fuck is trust? Your gf wants to go in a dimly lit environment with loud music, alcohol, and horny males who will rub on her... What the fuck is there to think about? Its over.

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 1 point2 points  (14 children)

Side question: is this (clubbing) behavior acceptable if it's a bachelorette party ordeal ? I'm still confused as to what is acceptable or not.

[–]Cunt_Robber 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Think for yourself. Do you personally find it a dealbreaker or more situational? I think any HB>7 under 30 can enjoy a fun night at the club, and if you put your foot down you just look insecure. You either go with her rvery once in a blue moon she gets the itch for a place like that, or you're yourself balls deep into that kind of scene with enough options to make her value your commitment to the point of monogamy. But I urge you, again, think for yourself. Dont let this sub make up all your valued and rules lol

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Ah I'm a woman and I'm just wondering what's kosher. I've given up clubs after my last experience which wasn't great. Just wondering what men think about bachelorette parties because I'm a maid of honor and I need to plan one. The bride clearly wants to dance and party so nightclub is what we will be doing.

Edit: if it makes a difference, my boyfriend doesn't have a comment and doesn't care. Just curious what other men think about these situations.

[–]Cunt_Robber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally Im in the grey zone, i.e. It's situational... In this case, I wouldnt mind. There's a clear purpose: to celebrate the bachelorette, the focus will be on her. Id have no reservations about it.

[–]disposablefleshy 0 points1 point  (5 children)

FWIW, I wouldn't marry a woman who wanted to go clubbing for her bachelorette party. But that would be abundantly clear by the time it got to that point. I would interpret that sort of bachelorette party as a de facto ending of the relationship. Since she broke off the relationship, she'd be on the hook for all of the sunk costs involved in the wedding and otherwise, even if it breaks her financially.

That being said, there are guys who don't feel that way, but I would suggest that's because they are either planning on strippers and whores themselves, or because they've been tricked by the current societal pressures to not understand their own value. Now, either one of those can have implications for the long-term health of the relationship or not. Every couple is different, and no one but the people in the relationship really know what's up.

[–]Cunt_Robber 0 points1 point  (4 children)

What would you do for your bachelor party?

[–]our_guile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A friend is going to one for the next few days. They're going camping and fishing.

[–]disposablefleshy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I hung out with the woman that I married.

[–]Cunt_Robber 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Then my good man we would say you didnt have a bachelor party.

[–]disposablefleshy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am 100% comfortable with that.

[–]LordThunderbolt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I have no intentions on ever LTRing or marrying anyone so this doesn't apply to me but I'll answer anyway. I don't see the necessity in bachelor/bachelorette parties. Those things only happen in the US where marriage is a sham anyway.

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's certainly not necessary, but it would go against every societal norm to refuse. If you are a bridesmaid or the maid of honor, you'll have to participate in the event unless you want to sever that friendship with the bride. And if the bride insists on a night out dancing, it puts you in a tough spot, even if you personally vowed never to go out dancing again without the BF

[–]disposablefleshy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I resent the US part of that. I've seen them happen all over the world, and quite famously, there was an incident where a prince took a Chinook to one...

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    [–]i_have_a_semicolon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I guess because we aren't born knowing everything and throughout life we must learn things and that mainstream media tells lies about what men Want and what women ought to give ?

    [–]Ganaria_Gente 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You're asking a bunch of dumb beta questions.

    you must be reading some other fantasy post

    parent comment was very TRP in his thinking.

    [–]throwthebluepillaway 23 points24 points  (6 children)

    I don't think your decision was wrong, but it was maybe too hasty.

    You shouldn't have reacted to this text, just ignore her. Before making such a decision - I mean you said you were happy - sleep one night over it. Think. Plan.

    It was knee jerk, but probably the right decision. Girls who get stupid drunk are major redflag.

    Just for the future, better think a bit about what you are going to do and how this affects you.

    You could've broke up when you're back - now she definitely is going to drunkfuck some dude

    Now she's single.

    [–]egoisenemy 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    that's what OP was prepared for when he dumped that fool

    [–]All_Ads_Deceive 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Alpha widows don't revenge fuck strangers after they get canned. My ex cried for a week then asked if we could still hook up. Her friends tried to set her up with some D and she ended up ditching him and begging me to come fuck her. Don't underestimate the feelz Alphas give to women

    [–]PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Sometimes but generally they will often go for rebound cock without you knowing it. They are just shit scared to tell you because they know they can't fuck up with you.

    The only honest difference is women are afraid to fuck up with someone and not afraid to fuck up with others.

    [–]cleverley1986 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    she could have done that anytime. I agree with you though...also he doesn't need a reason to end it.

    [–]Snooze212 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That's scarce-mentality (not sure what it's called but you know what I mean). Who gives a fuck if she fucks a dude? If she went on a night out to get drunk she would have fucked a dude anyway! That's what club sluts do - doesn't matter if you go once a week or once a year - clubs are for fucking club sluts, and if you're a girl in a club then you need to put your club-slut name tag on cause you are one.

    [–]Willkuer_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Not helping but respect for calling and consequent ghosting. Makes a solid impression. At least to me.

    [–]Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Gonna save money for Christmas and NYE. No better time than after Thanksgiving tbh.

    [–]constructiveasshole 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    This is going to sound contrary to what some of the others here say, but good for you. She's just a girl. There are thousands more. Recover from surgery and go find a hotter one. The minute I tire of mine, she's gone, poof, bye bye.

    [–]PantsonFire1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I love how almost every guy on here is completely for this. It brings me hope for humanity, 2016 has been glorious. God I hope more and more men adapt the 'fuck this' attitude. Bitches would snap in line like the old days.

    [–]CrashXXL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Billions more.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Over reaction or not, you can't go back. That will look weak, and regretful. Stay the course. When you show back up in town, ignore the calls. She'll probably show up at your door. You'll have to decide from there if you want to undo this.

    [–]the-bum-hammer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Crazy drunk girls always get "blackout drunk" and then they "don't remember fucking him" and she was "raped, but there's no need to press charges."

    I'd say you did the right thing.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    What many of the commenters are missing is that there are indeed girls that don't do this sort of thing and have no desire to. Now, you won't meet these girls at bars and clubs, by definition. So, if OP is not comfortable with this and there are girls that do not do this, and he can attract them. Then I don't see where he overreacted at all, unless someone believes every woman is a bar fly.

    [–]yomo86 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    From a far away standpoint and in regard to my own life you made a wrong choice which will only benefit you. Why? Well, her state of mind has roots to previous behavior; either you were too soft on stuff like 'Imma geddin shitfaced drunk' or she is accustomed that testing the waters of your relationship has no side-effects at all.

    What I am saying is: You are probably better off without a party whore who got the idea that such behavior is ok, on the other hand letting her down easy and keep her as a plate might have been the wiser option.

    From another perspective: I guess you are you <29 girls under that age are not LTR capable as a rule of thumb thus the always advised screening, every relationship especially in this age bracket has a best-before-date on it.

    [–]Dr_Frogstein 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Serious? Life is too fucking short to give two shits about why this hoe was conditioned to think it was okay to have a bar fiesta while her long term mate was having surgery. Great respect you're showing there chick, when there are literally thousands of girls OP could meet who wouldn't even think of doing that. But no, think of the damaged ones! They're people too! You're one poor decison away from captain save a hoe. Lurk more.

    [–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Giving a shit and thinking about yourself critically are two different things. I see where you are coming from, though. This my way or the highway does not improve your personality, I would never stay with a whore who 'likes to party' but throwing everything out of the window for one stupid shit test (on which we have no further information) seems a bit insecure to me - even for just a plate.

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    [–]Snooze212 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Tough decision man, but stay the course, champ.

    [–]bhouse114 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Sounds like a bit of an overreaction

    [–]2niczar 4 points5 points  (16 children)

    Not saying you're wrong, but I would've first tried to shamed her into behaving. Express how disappointed you are, more progressively, and without going into details.

    First "Hmm I expected better from you." Let her fill in the blanks. If she probes for specifics, just say you're disappointed. Don't give her specific orders against which she can rebel, let her come up with the reasons why it's bad. Let her macerate in the cognitive dissonance instead of helping her resolve it into you being a controlling asshole. If she starts accusing you of that anyway, shut that down with a guilt trip and a strong hint of break up but not a direct threat. "I wouldn't go get shitfaced in a club if you were sick, but I guess maybe this relationship doesn't mean the same thing to you."

    [–]PM_Your_8008s 8 points9 points  (7 children)

    "I wouldn't go get shitfaced in a club if you were sick, but I guess maybe this relationship doesn't mean the same thing to you."

    This is the most beta thing you could possibly say. This is literally the pity approach, trying to get her to feel bad that you are such a noble gentleman while she's deciding to go out and get drunk. You can't fix people, at least not when it comes to large things like this. She should have known better than to go out to get plastered at a club while OP wasn't around. That's a pretty glaring respect issue and it isn't OP's job to coach non-LTR material into LTR material.

    [–]2niczar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    What would be beta would be to demand, supplicate or bargain. That's not what I'm talking about in any way.

    It's letting her know she's beneath your standards. Talking to her like she's an immature child.

    [–]empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    I was going to make this comment but ended up deleting it. It's really passive aggressive and just doesn't demand respect. She'd use it to consider him a beta and feel more justified cheating.

    [–]PM_Your_8008s 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Definitely. If there's one thing I've learned the hard way it's that passive aggressive is the worst route you could ever go with women. Just screams desperation, jealousy, insecurity, etc.

    [–]empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The only threat you can use is the threat of walking away because you're prepared to. Not guilt tripping. Even before TRP this is what felt right.

    [–]2niczar 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    There's nothing passive aggressive about this. It's explicit and conveys a posture of authority.

    Passive aggressive would be saying shit like "oh well I hope you have fun while I'm in the hospital."

    [–]1DonaldBaelish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Some people just don't get manipulation.

    [–]improvising1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    While this is as solid advice as anybody could give if the goal was retention, why? Even following your advice, short of being there in person OP would never know if she did or did not go out or what she got up to.

    The fact that she's considering going to a club and getting "crazy drunk" in a sexual environment while he's interstate screams "I take this LTR for granted, demote me".

    [–]Snooze212 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Going nuclear shows this guy has abundance, surely? If a girl is that disrepectful that she'd even IMAGINE going to a club then why is she worth the effort?

    [–]2niczar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    What's the point of showing more abundance anyway since he's not seeing her again?

    [–]PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I think OP just wanted to do the right thing. He didn't want to negotiate his way into a workable relationship. He wanted to get out while he was on top and be proud of the way he handled himself.

    Sometimes the girl is just a girl and the principles of a man are more important. I've ghosted/broken up with girls because I wanted to do so. I had no reason, nothing had changed. I just felt like doing it one day. Like trying on a new hair style.

    If a man can't walk off whenever he wants to then he is truly beta cucked. You shouldn't need a reason to cut things off. In my book, it's even okay to break up if she tells you a bad joke. It's not about finding better ways to deal with it.

    If you find yourself thinking about breaking up then you should be able to do it, you can't explain every thought in your head. Sometimes a girl just did something off and I just didn't care for it anymore. This can be anything. The idea that men should stay true to their word and women can change their mind is ludicrous.

    [–]LordThunderbolt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Shame? She doesn't know what that means. Does she have to read more of your butthurt text because Chad is at the club and he could be going home with another girl, she has to go.

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      [–]ItsTheHomeWrecker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      deleted What is this?

      [–]2niczar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      That's treating her like a teenager.

      [–]ThinkerToy 0 points1 point  (22 children)

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      What is this?

      [–]addwater[S] 10 points11 points  (21 children)

      I've read the article. I don't feel it necessarily speaks for all of TRP and their philosophies.

      [–]ThinkerToy 4 points5 points  (10 children)

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      What is this?

      [–]addwater[S] 22 points23 points  (9 children)

      I feel as if I wasn't given a chance to display indifference towards her desire to go out which upsets me. It was very last minute which means she had already made her mind up. In the article you quoted it illustrates that your response alone to such a proposal can allow her to change her mind.

      I also feel admitting to wanting to get crazy drunk at a club is a huge red flag and another attribute that I want to avoid at all costs in an LTR, no matter how infrequent. I didn't want to allow this to set a precedent of any kind.

      I also, to an extent, went with my gut on the matter. Perhaps my game wasn't as solid as I thought.

      [–]seeing-red- 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      I think you did the right thing. Also you could always plate her again.

      [–]TheSigmaMonster 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      Perhaps my game wasn't as solid as I thought.

      I just want to touch on this one point since you seem to be down on yourself about being with a girl for a year and then turning her loose.

      A big part of relationship game is keeping yourself in a position where it will not be a problem to break up with a girl when you decide you need to. This means keeping your value up, not feeling desperate/a lack of abundance, etc.

      You absolutely did the right thing with regard to having solid game on this.

      If you were there with her in person, you would have had other options, but for her to spring this on you when you're that far away out of the blue randomly like this ultimately forces your hand, imo.

      [–]Snooze212 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Beautifully said good sir.

      [–]Dr_Frogstein 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      tips fedora

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Women who get shit faced in public look trashy (literally and figuratively) and are easy prey to dudes. Unless she is very young or socially retarded, she knows that if she is out and very drunk, that men will swoop in from all sides like vultures. And she should know that you know this as well and respect you enough to not put herself in that vulnerable position or you in a position to feel the way that is inevitable.

      [–]ThinkerToy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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      What is this?

      [–]absolucion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I think the key factors here for you is that she didn't volunteer the information until the last minute and that she wants to get obliterated. My LTR gets "crunk" at home watching shit like Gilmore Girls or Criminal Minds and goes and sings karaoke with a couple of her friends and is there for an hour or two.

      In my head, I'm weighing whether or not I'd do the same in your shoes. I'm leaning in favor of no but I don't have a good reason outside of "I'd have more pressing matters to concern myself with" (since you did say you were having surgery out of state). I guess I would need more concerning behavior to cause me to nix the relationship. Don't take this as a criticism of your decision since you know your situation better than I do but I think you may have been a little hasty despite having good cause to axe the relationship.

      [–]SexistFlyingPig 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Her going to the club indicates that she wants attention from lots of different guys. While she may not admit it to herself, she's looking to branch swing. Regardless of your relative Sexual Market Values, she's going to check to see if she can swing up. If she gets no attention from the hot guys at the club, then she'll come back home knowing that you are the best she can get.

      Your behavior (ending it) showed her how much it wasn't a risk-free gamble on her part. She was gambling that you would put up with whatever she wanted to do. I could rant that she's an empowered woman and all her girlfriends get to go out so why can't she, but this isn't about that. This is about your choice for who you're going to be in a relationship with. You made the decision that it's not going to be her.

      I'd say that you may have been on the fence about this whole committing-to-one-girl-forever thing, and this incident just made you realize that you don't want this girl: she's not worth it.

      I think you made the right decision. 100% I think you made the right decision.

      [–]Snooze212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I actually really like the gamble point you made, never actually thought of that before but it's spot on. She lost, he won (as long as he has good game, right? :P ).

      [–]PaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (9 children)

      It didn't reflect what you wanted, so you disregarded.

      Did you express the boundary? Did she attempt to shit test you for it? Or did you just. Flip out with no warning.

      Can't blame her for something if she doesn't know.

      Next time, say you don't like something, then her actions guide your enforcement.

      [–]Nymdox 7 points8 points  (5 children)

      You say he can't blame her if she didn't know. But why is it even a question of blame? He doesn't want a girlfriend who does that, ergo he no longer has a girlfriend who does that. Blame and fairness don't enter into it.

      [–]PaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      Leading your woman involves setting the standard.

      Covert contracts are a bad relationship habit, express boundaries, and there's no reason to assume anything from women

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      Disagree. Personally, with some things, I would want my GF to just know better. I would not want a GF that wants to go out and get shitfaced around horny dudes, but is suppressing that.

      [–]i_have_a_semicolon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Assuming that she wanted to do that and was not just yielding to her friends plans for whatever reason (she needs a wing women! She's single! A real friend would go with her!) Thou I also think getting "crunk" technically means just getting excited and having energy which is normally a part of dancing , sometimes a rather "innocuous" pursuit. Not saying said girlfriend is totally incapable of being both manipulative and genuine with her desire to go out with her friend and drink. It's a complicated situation at least.

      [–]PaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Then ditch her like OP did.

      If you want a girl to magically know your boundaries, I expect you'll be in for more disappointment than you think.

      Remember, she isn't going out to get drunk and get dick, it just happened. She is simply going to hang with her friend, and get the goodfeels. Why wouldn't you?

      Oh, because I am getting tingles at home, plus commitment, and he set a boundary? Since it's no big deal, I'll not go get drunk with the slutty friend.

      They aren't master planners here, she's following her emotional feels around, chasing more endorphins. If you're going to LTR a girl up, it's on you to be the leader, saving her from her own bad decisions.

      Or not, you don't have to, but it's silly to do neither.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Women go out alone and get drunk simply to get attention from strange men. That's it. The boundary shouldn't need to be stated.

      I think many of the responses here are from younger guys, so it is understandable. They basically have sluts and mongoloids to choose from, I get it. That's why I wouldn't get in a LTR in college. The older guys here are of someone past 25 or own age doing this. And it's off putting.

      [–]addwater[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      Look, I suppose this is true.

      Although I can't help but feel this is very obviously and completely unacceptable behaviour that should go without saying.

      She's a smart girl. If the tables were turned she would've flipped. She knew.

      Edit: another thing I've implemented into my life is the belief that boundaries can't be enforced verbally, and that all you can really do is respond with your actions.

      [–]2niczar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Edit: another thing I've implemented into my life is the belief that boundaries can't be enforced verbally,

      Enforced, no. But reinforced, definitely. Think Pavlov.

      [–]PaperStreetVilla -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      Yeah, girls aren't smart that way. Once you decide to Ltr, you're taking on the responsibility of bitch management. You let her know boundaries, and and enforce them.

      Reward good behaviour, punish bad behaviour. In your case, you went right to 10, and she may have just needed you to say no, and would have decided against it. Women like boundaries, if they are keepers.

      Maybe she would have said you can't control her, and given a shit test, but then you would know she isn't Ltr material.

      And you wouldn't be here, with that doubt you did the wrong thing.

      [–]rajesh8162 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You did the right thing. Especially if her behavior wasn't like this for the last year, which would've increased the contrast that you felt in what she was doing. If she was already into being crazy drunk alone and had told you (that would've come up), then there wouldn't be any reaction from you for this instance.

      Shit tests just mean that they put themselves on a higher pedestal. Add to that; the belief that men can't see through them, only makes them seem more dumb.

      [–]Snooze212 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      The key here is that you must KNOW you can now form a new relationship with a new girl and not get stuck in this 'What if...' cycle. As long as you've been keeping your game sharp, then you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

      You've kept your RP truths close to home, which is perfect, but these RP truths must be in-sync with one another. Sure you can dump your girlfriend, but is SHE now in a better position than you? Will she simply waltz into a new relationship? (Obviously she will cause she has a vagina and people with vaginas can do that) But YOU also need to be able to waltz right into a relationship (if you so choose). Keeping those boundaries you have but also keeping sharp game is really important to your happiness.

      I know it's tough, but life is tough. Women are a grind, and you have to embrace that grind if you want to be truly happy. A year of a relationship is simply a lesson that life has taught you, take that year and continue to build upon it with a different girl.

      [–]clint_bronson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Finally a story with a happy ending. Alot of people coming to this reddit asking about wether or not they should dump their disrespectful LTRs should learn with this man right here.

      gg.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This is respectable. It's just business.

      [–]InformalCriticism 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      This may sound somewhat like an echo of what was already said, but I want you to get the most out of your post, so I'll opine at the end.

      I think you made a great decision. Not only because it was appropriate, but it was not easy; you made a good decision under great difficulty of circumstance. You should be proud of your ability to think clearly in a pressure situation.

      While I don't think you overreacted, I can't say what I would have done in that situation, because it sounds like there is plenty about the relationship you wouldn't have time to share. However, based on what you were able to share, there's a good chance I would have handled it at least similarly.

      As for my overall opinion, I think you should take stock of your long game. Why were you in an LTR? Are you not well and that's why you needed surgery? These questions are pointing me to question your long strategy; it sounds like you might not be ready for LTRs if you can't keep the lid tight after only a year.

      Take the time you need to be healthy. Don't get into serious relationships. Establish yourself to the point you won't find yourself in that situation again before taking on an LTR, if that's your endgame.

      [–]addwater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thank you for the advice

      [–]ItsTheHomeWrecker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      deleted What is this?

      [–]Igaunija 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Good choice, slut knew you were having surgery and decided fuck that guy, I'll get hammered and ride some Chad cock.

      [–]W_O_M_B_A_T 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Clearly she knew you wouldn't approve of it. If getting blackout drunk and competing with her catty friends for the attention of thirsty dudebros is more important to her.....

      You made the right decision, man. I respect your integrity.

      [–]ecosci 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Shes already fucking another dude and doesnt respect you trust me the last time i heard something like this she was fucking a married man behind my back and she broke up with me shortly.

      [–]addwater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I really don't know about this.

      Generally she showed me the utmost respect and was always very submissive and feminine.

      She laughed at my jokes, gave me sex unprompted sometimes, and did lots of favors for me. Also gifts.

      Hell, she even drove to my house just to see me 80% of the time and would always ask what I'm doing, when I'm free and when can I see her.

      The behavior above just doesn't seem indicative of someone who is cheating on their boyfriend.

      I really think a lot of the other guys nailed it when they said she wanted to go out and have her SMV assessed by other males to see what she could attract.

      I also probably fucked up by being too distant, and too unavailable. Even before I was sick I was always very busy and she always craved attention like CRAZY.

      They say you should give a girl 2/3 of what ever she gives you in terms of attention. I probably gave her 1/3 consistently. An error on my part.

      [–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      High odds, it has nothing to do with the guy. These things just happen. Sometimes you're just shit out of luck. Getting drunk in a club means cock was on her mind, one way or another.

      [–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Dude you did no wrong. Don't feel guilty, you reacted like a fucking champ. I've been in similar situation and I did the same. Had you not done it you would have set yourself up for more behavior like this down the line. Also possible cheating.

      You wen't out winning and she knows it, that's the only reason she's blowing up your phone. I do not give her any mercy. She will take it and then fuck you over twice as hard in two months. Don't say I didn't warn you if you do decide to give her a second chance.

      Not everyone will agree to this. Some will say it's to extreme. To those I say, you have never experienced a woman's ultimate cuntery. She would have done worse. What OP did was nice and clean.

      [–]addwater[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Thank you.

      I haven't contacted her since. I've blocked her on all social media platforms and sent one final text saying I would mail her belongings back when I return.

      There's certainly no going back.

      [–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Good, she will try looking for closure and then attempt to save face. If you live close by she will 'accidentally' bump into you multiple times. She might even try to win your family and friends over to shame you. When really desperate you might receive some sobbing message or tragic story about how bad she's doing hoping to trigger your protective instinct. Remember that, her biggest weapon is trying to play on your compassion for her.

      Sounds like you reacted from your gut on this one, you should analyze the relationship and see if you possibly missed some signs. It always helps, that way the next relationship is less bumpy.

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      [–]homme_rouge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I would never allow my female to drink at a bar without my supervision. There are many cocks. Female cannot make proper judgments. God job.

      [–]skinnysandvs -1 points0 points  (3 children)

      I mean every man has their boundaries and at least you let her know what yours are... but come on man you dumped her because she wanted to go out without you?

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Go out with only one single friend, to a club, and pre-planned to get crushed drunk while there. This isn't simply "me and Stacy are gonna grab a martini at such and such and then watch a movie at her place".

      [–]skinnysandvs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      understandable, maybe it's because I'm in college, but you miss out on a lot of decent women if you restrict yourself to ones that don't go out

      [–]CrashXXL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      If she couple go party she could be with her bf and support him during his surgery.

      [–]iamirishpat -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

      That's not right. Did you ever tell her you don't want her to do that? If not, you can't just do that.

      [–]LordThunderbolt 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      If u have to tell your gf not to be a thot, you already lost. When I set verbal boundaries like that, all she has to do is hide what she's doing.

      [–]Louisie_steezy -1 points0 points  (2 children)

      How would she ever know that he doesn't want her to go out and drink with her friends if he doesn't tell her?

      [–]LordThunderbolt 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      How do you know that shoving a pen straight into your eye would be bad news for u, without someone telling you?

      [–]Louisie_steezy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Why would you use danger as a metaphor for something that's a matter of preference that changes from person to person?

      [–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Lol watch me. You're telling me I can't do something? Don't even tell a man he can't do something. I hope you're trolling.

      [–]suchhound -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

      Well, this is what you get for hanging around this side of the Internet

      Extreme paranoia where you can't send your girl to the 7-11 without thinking she'll suck a few cocks before coming back to you

      The red pill has become so diluted lately that if you pay attention you can see that it's only the extreme bullet points being parroted out by the lowest unsuccessful beta men, pay attention, every single post no matter what the girl did or what was the situation you'll get the same advice :

      she's fucking someone else

      Next

      Cuck

      Awalt

      Rinse and repeat

      I find it ridiculous that for all intent and purposes you mother fuckers are looking for Amish girls

      What's the point?

      Here's the point

      You have to be so high value and great in bed and not invested in the relationship and on a clear mission path that She would have to be out of her mind to go suck another cock

      And even if she does it would not phase you because of your value

      So obviously since you just threw a tantrum at your girl we can be sure you need to work on your value

      Actually let's be real, by this time the dread of losing your girl has gotten to you and you have already answered her texts/calls and you're deep in drama mode which women love, and it's a massive loss of frame for you

      so enjoy the drama and paranoia I guess

      [–]addwater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I haven't responded to a thing. I feel terrible but I've stuck with my decision.

      [–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Typical thinking that TRP makes you paranoid and not a faulty assumption to make. For insider or outsiders. The question is more about *"why should I even care about being wrong?".

      I've seen women do horrible stuff and other who didn't. Had enough personal experiences to know that these things happen. The next girl I meet might be perfectly fine at the time of me breaking up with her. Do I care about being wrong about her? Nope.

      You will rationalize this one way or another telling me I've got one issue or another that I need to resolve. Sometimes you need to make full measures, not half measures.

      The only people who won't like these nuclear options when it comes to dealing with girls are 1. girls and 2. the sjw's that protect them. Every guy I've ever talked about who made such a move never regretted it. On the other hand, I've heard about tons of men who regretted not acting sooner when their gut told them it was high time.

      You have some thinking to do man.

      [–]addwater[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Thank you very much. I appreciate your amount of constructive input on my post.

      [–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Glad I could help, we're here to learn from eachother after all

      [–]beau-dhi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      This seems reactionary and over-compensating. Your overall uneasiness, and her (and her circle's) reaction indicate this.

      This zero-tolerance, all-or-nothing, knee-jerk, nuclear approach seems like the default redditor response found in /r/relationship_advice, except TRP fueled. Remember "Cut Contact, Delete Facebook, Hit Gym"? It lacks nuance.

      [–]Icanus -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

      Buddy, you overreacted.
      When my LTR says she's going out I say "have fun; I want bacon with my breakfast tomorrow"

      [–]LordThunderbolt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      No u don't. You're trying too hard to make us think you're alpha. Your ltr wants to go to a dimly lit environment with loud sexual music, alcohol, lowered inhibitions, and plenty of horny males who will rub themselves on her, and you let her? You're a cuck.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Unless he wants a girl that doesn't like to do this sort of thing. It's pretty subjective. You'd be okay with your GF going out and getting wasted around randos, he isn't.

      I'm similar to the OP in my expectations. As a result, in today's climate, I simply have given up on LTRing most women, especially if they like to party or have any wild streak whatsoever.

      [–]Snooze212 1 point2 points  (5 children)

      Lol you do realise your precious LTR is sucking some BBC at the club, right? In the toilets. I bet you lie awake at night thinking how she's taking that BBC up her booty-hole in the men's toilets and everyone taking pictures of it. Then you slowly start to jerk your tiny weiner with your finger and thumb. Yeah, this happens man. Happened to me. There I was, in the men's toilets, with a BBC up my booty-hole - terrible.

      Okay kidding about me taking BBC up my booty-hole (or am I?), but really, I highly doubt you're fine with letting your LTR go to a club to get wasted (and take BBC up her butthole).

      [–]Icanus -1 points0 points  (4 children)

      Going out <> getting wasted in the club.
      My woman doesn't get wasted nor goes to clubs. We both hate clubs and nigger music.
      We go to rock concerts together, and when I don't like the band she wants to see she can take her sister and have a good time.

      You sound pretty damn insecure.

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        [–]Icanus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Are you as much of a dick in real life? Seriously dude, get your self esteem in check.

        [–]Snooze212 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Ahhhhh okay well that's better I guess. We're all insecure in some way, right? But in this guy's case though, if your girlfriend is going to a club with her single friend to get very drunk how does that show anything other than lack of respect for him? 90% of the time they take some gangsta's dick up their butt.

        [–]Icanus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        We don't have niggers around here, we don't like them anyway.
        That aside, you make a good point but OP just overreacted and showed his weakness

        [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

        I don't think crunk means crazy drunk

        adjective 1. black slang (of a person) very excited or full of energy. "get crunk with some raw hip hop