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After swallowing trp does anyone else feel like most people are fake as fuck and don't benefit you at all? (self.asktrp)

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Before the red pill I use to be a people pleaser. All i got in return was fake friends who took advantage of me. Know after swallowing trp I can see the world for what it really is. 80 20 rule. 80% of men get treated like garbage, and the 20% get treated like a king.

Now that I am at the top of my game, I act like my real self, who only please my-self and is unapologetic. People are trying to ass kissing me too much and they want to please me so much. I want to tell them all to fuck off, because I don't need them at this point.

I only have 1 true best friend, and I am perfectly fine with that. Even my dad who is very rich, told me at a young age friends are horrible.

I am just asking does anyone else feel this way?


[–]Mescuzzi 17 points18 points  (17 children)

Sounds like you've taken the "rose colored glasses" off. I think I'm in the same boat, and it's been a bitch of a pill to swallow. Isn't it fucking hilarious how after you swallow the red pill, all the people who you thought were you're friends are all a bunch of fucking fakes? When you stop putting in the effort, you realize how much of a one-sided friendship it was all along. Would agree with some other commenters that it's the anger phase for sure lol.

Seriously, how the fuck does anyone on TRP have "true friendships" though?!? I feel like after swallowing the red pill, I am never able to let my guard down ever again. It's quite the shitty feeling. Even with a potential LTR you can't let your guard down, otherwise hypergamy will get the best of you.

Btw OP, I think it's in your best interest to keep around those that want to please and take care of you, but also keep your guard up with those. I've found the ones that consistently compliment you, are the very ones that are most envious of you, and will at a seconds notice drag you down (crabs in a barrel). Reward those that put time and effort into you, and neglect those that do not. You will find that more people will feed off of your approval and validation. This power has a double-edged sword, because you can never truly let your guard down.

I swear, all these people give Drake shit for the stuff he raps about, but that shit resonates with me 1000%. "Fuck a fake friend, where my real friends at"

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    [–]LethalShade 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    That sounds about right. But in a world where the closest thing most people get to serving together is playing Call of Duty Co-op, how do you simulate those hardships?

    [–]furious_sisyphus 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    I think a hardship that's similar today is probably any rigorous education system in high school as well as any friends made in university classes. Although most of them really only care about themselves and come to you whenever they need anything.

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (7 children)

    The worst are the people who I really like, but take subtle shots at you every once in a while. Whether it be because you are in great shape, while they are chubby themselves, or you are a lot stronger than them.

    As a single guy, I also get comments from people who have a girlfriend, trying to imply there is something wrong with me for not being in a relationship. As if it's something that makes you a "superior" person.

    [–]Mescuzzi 6 points7 points  (6 children)

    I'm very good, and I mean, very fucking good at figuring people out. It's in part of learning how to be "like-able" that I've honed this skill over the last decade. I've cut that switch off, but use it when I want to to get what I need out of people.

    How I've learned to deal with people who like to take subtle shots at you, is to basically dish that shit right back at them, but make sure you do it with stuff they are REALLY subconscious about. Try this next time: when your chubby friend starts subtly taking shots at you, redirect it back at him saying something like "you know, the things you say sometimes are so cute, it just makes me want to squeeze those chubby little cheeks of yours" or something of that nature. You're acknowledging there attempts to berate you, but at the same time your shutting them down in a covert way. You almost have to talk "covertly" because if you're direct in your replies, you come off as hostile in the group... i.e. calling them fat without calling them fat.

    In the second instance, you have to rub the fact that your single and your swimming in pussy to be tied down to one woman. Then tell them "honestly dude, I have no idea how you can be with the same one all the time"

    It's all psychological warfare. At the same time though, I'm trying to cut out the negative people in my life, because I would rather put people up than tear them down. Sometimes people need to learn their fucking place, and you have to assert yourself.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    While I am unfortunately not swimming in pussy, one of the things being single is great for is saving money and having more time to do what I want.

    I would rather be an in-shape guy, who while I am single and not getting laid much, I can wake up and feel good about my six pack, my body and how I eat decently healthy by avoiding fast food. Instead of an overweight guy who has a good looking girlfriend. At any point, you can be dumped and then, you are just left with yourself and what you look like.

    The funny thing are the guys who really try to act like they have such an abundance mentality because they have gotten laid a good amount in the past, but NEED or WANT to always be in a relationship. I know some guys who just can't handle being single.

    [–]Mescuzzi 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Honestly dude, if you're in great shape, it might be the psychological you need to work on. Do you ever find your ego saying things like "you cant do this, or that" or trying to talk you out of your ideas? I have/had that same problem, where I didn't believe in myself due to the fact that my self-talk was so negative all the time. I'm not going to say its going to change overnight, because nothing does. But what you should do is everytime that little ego of yours says your not good enough, you cant do it, etc. You need to tell it to shut the fuck up, and replace that with anything like: I'm the fucking man, I can do that shit, etc etc. You have to mentally visualize yourself doing that action, and then you need to take steps to make that shit happen.

    A lot of people focus on the outside, how they look, building muscle, dressing a certain way. All of that is in-fact needed to get attraction, but what goes on in your head is a whole different ball game. If you don't believe in yourself, how will anyone else will? I bet your friends pick up on your self-consciousness and belittle you in certain ways (maybe your intelligence, like they did with me, ohhh how they loved to use that, because that was my only perceived flaw, and I actually believed it for a long time).

    I started with $115,000 dollars in college loans, and I am now at $60k. You can still have a decent dating life while also not breaking the bank. Stop making excuses why your not getting girls, its all in your head bud!

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Thanks for that and it is a good point, since my ego affects me when it comes to approaching certain women. While I have had some success (double digit n count), the confidence and charisma is something I definitely need to work on. It also doesn't help I have hooked up/had sex with some really ugly chicks in the past that I regret, which definitely affects me a bit when people bring it up. There are times when I am outgoing and all that, but it's not as natural as I would like for it to be all the time. Depends on the situation, I guess. I make enough money in my contract position, but looking for a new permanent full time position.

    Thanks for the advice. 2017, I have been taking steps to improve myself financially through investing and all that (not that I was doing bad before), but just improving myself. Definitely gonna work on my ego. I feel it will help me not just in my personal life and with women, but in my career. I've always been for the most part humble and not really a cocky person.

    My friends while I like them, do sometimes poke fun at the ugly women I have hooked up with in the past, (in college, not recently), but I brush it off. I'm confident when it comes to lifting weights and looking good, but my "game" has definitely taken a step back. One step I'm definitely taking is not hooking up or going after women I don't find attractive, just to get a make out session or get laid.

    [–]Mescuzzi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If there was one advice that I could give you that could instantly help you with your game is this: "fake it till you make it"

    You may think that being humble is the best way to go (which is blue pill conditioning), but honestly, being cocky goes so much further. Just putting on the "show" of acting cocky in front of women (i.e. walking slower than normal, with your head held high, shoulders back, chest up) might be weird at first, but they really eat that shit up. Then when you talk, just keep it short. You pretty much have to have a no fucks given attitude.

    I would consider spending less time with those "friends" of yours while your trying to practice your game with other women. You first need to get your game on "lock" (i.e. confident nature) before you can really add in those friends, because they WILL try to make you look bad in front of your date(s) to show them where you are in the pecking order. So until then, try to separate that.

    Lastly, I think you're putting too much stock in what your friends might think if you fuck this or that chick. If you havent gotten laid in awhile, its better to get in in with a HB5 than none at all. Also, if your jerking it, STOP. You'll get horny enough that you wont give a shit about what others think. Plus, I've noticed a ton of benefits from not fapping. Keep reading bud, and if you need any advice, feel free to PM me. I try to give back to TRP when I can

    [–]LethalShade 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Do you feel like it's worth it? I get it, if there's psychological warfare to be had, better win than lose. But why hang around people like that?

    [–]Mescuzzi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It's totally not worth it. I was invited to a St. Patty's day cookout with a bunch of friends, but I hard-passed on that shit because I'm afraid the next time my "friend" starts talking shit, I'm going to go nuclear on him and shut him the fuck down. I feel like that's my only option at this point, because I've tried doing other things without it working, and it just makes me look bad, yet I'm the one trying to save face for my "friends" sake.

    The real issue, is that I've allowed it to happen to me before I was introduced to TRP, and like Rollo has said before, its easier to start fresh with new people, than to try and repair a broken relationship(s). I'm definitely getting to that point where I have to completely pull away, it's just really hard to do. Easier said than done

    [–]RedPharaohRising 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Isn't it fucking hilarious how after you swallow the red pill, all the people who you thought were you're friends are all a bunch of fucking fakes? When you stop putting in the effort, you realize how much of a one-sided friendship it was all along. Would agree with some other commenters that it's the anger phase for sure lol.

    YES
    And you realise that you're really there for their entertainment, and they don't really care.

    I am never able to let my guard down ever again. It's quite the shitty feeling.

    This too. It's like I'm always switching between analysis mode "he's done that twice now and his reasons are always bad" and active mode "Yeah bro it's fine we'll survive without you boo".
    All with a fucking poker face.

    [–]Thizzlebot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Seriously, how the fuck does anyone on TRP have "true friendships" though?!?

    You have to pick high quality people. Now you have the skillset to weed out the losers.

    [–]redpill-account 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Find other real people. I'm lucky I have about 8 HS and 8ish college friends who are family and will be for life. We all meet as kindred spirits and have them hat same mindset across our differnet displinces.

    If you are an honorable and thorough and loyal dude who has shit going on, find those 5 ish people u know will always have ur back, but for push u forward also

    [–]Mescuzzi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Thats the thing dude, I WISH my high school buddies would be there for me, but its just not like that. I was the fat chubby kid growing up. I was self conscious of myself, and I was the class clown. I knew how to make people laugh, and I grew thick skin to deal with it. About 10 years ago around 2007 I was almost 300 lbs, I quit playing video games and just started working out, reading books like "How to Win Friends and Influence People" or books like "How to make people like you in 90 seconds or less" type of books. I did a complete 180 since then. Those same friends that had my back all those years ago are now jealous of my achievements. I have ALWAYS had a philosophy of trying to help others, yet when it came to confiding in friends, they always would talk shit behind my back, and I'd hear about it later. Or they would gossip like fucking women.

    Very very few people have gone through the transformation that I have done in the last 10 years, and the changes that I've seen on how people react and treat you is a blessing and a curse. They envy you and look up to you for validation, but at the same time when you attempt to show them your human side, they are so quick to use that shit like ammo against you. Maybe I've got some trust issues from being burned so many times during my journey, but I honestly feel like I have no one to trust anymore.

    I really really am envious of the people when they say they have 1-3 buddies they can just shoot the shit with without having to worry about not trusting, and those that "have their backs." But never the less, this is the path I chose when I started, and I'm not the weak little bitch that I used to be (or at least less of, who the fuck knows).

    [–]One_friendship_plz 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    What the fuck do you expect. unless you got LUCKY in life, like you did (rich dad?)
    The only way to climb is by being a fake piece of shit.
    No one gives a fuck about honesty & integrity anymore.
    All the honest people who didn't get lucky are flipping burgers and are miserable as fuck to be friends with.

    All the sexually successful people who didn't get lucky (having a good role model, to teach you to not overrate women, and to just FUCK them and forget the other bullshit people tell you about finding "the one") are stuck living fake lives just to get something.

    The whole world is fake because that's the only way to survive for many many people. You can't even get a job anymore without being fake on some level. You're fake during the interview, you're fake when you're exaggerating your skills, you're fake when you're trying to befriend your boss & co-workers just to get promotions.

    You are blessed with getting lucky, get the fuck over it.
    You are putting yourself in a position to where there are people who are "ass kissing" you. Get the fuck over it.
    No one is telling you that you have to like everyone, those people don't even have to be in your life, just stop meeting up with them it's that simple.

    [–]mrpoopistan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Part of cognitive behavioral therapies aimed at people in the autistic spectrum is designed to teach patients to confront the reality that manipulation (fakeness) is a basic fact of life.

    I think being mad about this fact borders on being mad at the sky for being blue.

    As is the case with all things TRP, no one here is offering you happiness or the answer to life, the universe and everything. You're simply being told to face the ground truth of your life.

    TRP doesn't really cure anything. It just stops bleeding that'll drain the life right out of you if you don't deal with it.

    [–]1walawalawa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    You're going through an anger phase. It's a phase on the way to full actualization and adoption of the Red Pill.

    The Red Pill isn't about "anger"...it's about acceptance.

    Yah, I realized some "friends" were complete fucking douche bags...yah I had a go at one of them...but what did that get me?

    A smarter way is to just cut them off. Let them wonder what's up while I go about my own projects and girls and work.

    The problem with being a "people pleaser" is that you can never rest until you get some sort validation or closure.

    But the Red Pill is about YOU accepting the outcomes, learning and moving on.

    The Red Pill is about seeing actions and behaviours and then understanding motivations better.

    If you understand your friends' motivations....you don't have to like it...but you'll then realize "oh...douchebags looking for something from me....hmmmm how do I play this to my own personal advantage?"

    [–]W_O_M_B_A_T 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    does anyone else feel like most people are my old beta self was fake as fuck and don't benefit you at all?

    FTFY

    You're starting to spot self-defeating beta behaviors in other people, and it's reminding you of your own cringey, unsavory choices in the past, which you've recently become aware of. This produces an immediate reaction of disgust. Note this more about the qualities that you like least about yourself, and less about anybody else's behavior. I was fake in the past, never honest about what I really wanted or felt, and I was constantly doing things which didn't benefit me at all.

    Almost everybody has their social persona they wear just like you wear different clothes for different occasions. That's normal human behavior. It becomes disingenuous when there's no depth or nuance underneath it.

    [–]GrabHerBootyBro 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Thank you, i know there are finally others out there that think with the same ideology i have brought myself to too.

    [–]W_O_M_B_A_T 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    What we think about other people's behaviors and personalities, is really just a consequence of what we think about.

    Frame is everything.

    [–]GrabHerBootyBro 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    And i know that i try to please people via appealing to them which if you 180 it means you enjoy to talk about philosophy xD because I'm curious if you've listened to aaron clarey and alan watts? I feel like you have those influences behind your speech.

    [–]W_O_M_B_A_T 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Thanks. haven't heard of them, but I'll look them up. EDIT: Aaron Clarey seems like my kind of dude.

    [–]GrabHerBootyBro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I figured as much because you can tell there are two sub group of listeners. Ones who can feel the real connection he is trying to make with you and the secondary listeners who come to gather their share of the attention they can get and use that as a confidence crutch.

    Alan watts is more spiritual thinking while aaron is more fiscal and solid world focused.

    [–]SpinPlates 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Don't benefit you at all

    Literally every girl I'm not fucking.

    [–]abdada 6 points7 points  (4 children)

    People see in others what they fear most in themselves.

    I don't feel fake at all, TRP for 30+ years.

    [–]htbf 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    People see in others what they fear most in themselves.

    How did you come to that ? It doesn't sound right.

    [–]abdada 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It's a truth known for thousands of years.

    Like the homophobe Senator who fucks young male interns.

    [–]Gettingaware 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It's a psychological thing. You're subconsciously recognizing the things in others that you dont like about yourself or are ashamed of, and it brings up feelings of anger or resent. In this case, OP is seeing how he once acted and is disgusted by it, and is holding it against others.

    Thats not to say his viewpoint isnt justified, its just a result of his own habits. He was a people pleaser, this attracted people who use others, and now hes surrounded by fake assholes.

    [–]redpill-account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Im a reflection of all your insecurities - Drake Aubrey graham.

    From the recent album more life

    [–]TheRedStoic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yes plenty do.

    Why, do you want to change that or are you fine with it?

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yes. That's life, sadly.

    re-enters anger phase Goddamnit

    [–]trpthroway123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    People either take advantage of others, are taken advantage of, or land in a situation where neither happens (because they won't let themselves be taken advantage of, and others won't let them take advantage).

    Real friends are the ones that don't fit in those categories, and most people only have 1-3, 5 tops.

    Don't be afraid to graciously take what others offer you. If people want to be your friend, want to do nice things, you gain nothing by telling them to fuck off. Avail yourself, make the connections, return the favor (even if it's not "fair" or "even"), and keep going.

    [–]Karacmore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yupppppp

    [–]Tommy_407 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You just need time right now. You're on the way dude, to fully dissolving the pill, but it needs time.

    Sort of like getting clean from heroin. The person's motivation and discipline are primary, but, certain things just need pure elapsed time to balance properly. No way around it.

    [–]Gettingaware 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    From here on out leave these people in the dust and not be so willing to give up the self esteem youre still working towards.

    theres so much i could say but you should read this instead.

    THE ULTIMATE SECRETS OF TOTAL SELF- CONFIDENCE

    [–]wont_tell_i_refuse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    No.

    But then again, I work at an all-male company, which is a decision I made after taking TRP.

    Most of my face time with other people is in a male environment, where no one feels the need to adopt a fake persona to be attractive to women or considered politically correct.

    It's 0% bullshit, when it's crunch time we work our asses off and when we're fucking around the banter is real.

    Life's only as fake as you want it to be.

    [–]W_O_M_B_A_T 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Even my dad who is very rich, told me at a young age friends are horrible.

    If you're rich, then, yes they do tend to be. Mind you, some wealthy people are entitled without quite meaning to be, and so have somewhat unreasonable expectations of people's time, attention, and agreeableness. Then they blame the fact on the money card. No, other people are just busy and have their own lives.

    Also, being wealthy lowers the social penalty of being an abrasive fucker. You can still get shit done and be successful in your life if you have some extra cash laying around. Doesn't mean people will like you personally. Again, some people blame that on their wealth.

    Don't ever make the mistake of advertising your wealth. Women will treat you even worse than your so-called friends will.

    [–]Herdsengineers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    There are people out there that are real and authentic. They are very few and far between, though. I currently have 2 in my life (it's a married couple).

    You just have to keep your boundaries and let people's actions speak for them. Don't listen to their words.

    [–]mickey__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    How did you get to position where you're now?