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Ran into plate walking hand-in-hand with some dude... (self.asktrp)

submitted by 1walawalawa

Girl I met online, fun, banged her hard, is into basically rough sex, saw her last earlier this week and we played pool and she blew me in some wild outdoor fantasy she had...

I was walking along a popular promenade and passed by her walking with some guy holding hands...

I didn't recognize her at first because she was dressed badly--with me she always looked hot and I wasn't really paying attention.

15 minutes later, I get a panicked text: "Can I talk to you? I didn't expect to see you..." or some such.

I laughed. I honestly don't care. But clearly this made her feel awkward.

It's a new situation for me because I have 2-3 girls on the go but haven't run into them with other dudes. I assume they have orbiters or bf's or whatever I just don't really honestly care at this point. Haven't responded to her. Was just thinking of teasing her about it...but it is also fun to let her hamster run wild by going silent for a while.

Thoughts? And please no "plate for anal" or "ghost the bitch" stupid stuff...solid insights on how to play this for maximum benefit.

UPDATE

Ok, who's the dude who called "BF" on this? You get the prize. I just got bombarded with texts, WhatsApp, two missed calls.

I'll sum it for you guys in a Red Pill context:

Dude is her "serious" bf for 3 months, suddenly he ghosts her because of "family issues"= ex-wife, gf or whatever. It's "serious" but hey, AWALT so she goes online, meets Chad (me)...who within 3 hours of meeting and gaming her bangs her hard...then meets up with her again and then again, then a final time where she blows Chad in an alley because Chad is unlocking all sorts of wild desires and fantasies. But somewhere in all of that..."ex" comes back, claims "family issues" =re: ex wife, wife, gf---and so...since AWALT she has Chad and she has beta loser who is begging her to go back out. Then suddenly Chad sees her wearing frumpy yoga-wear and no make up with "ex"...she freaks out, realizes how "embarrassed" she looks and what a "bitch" I must think of her...but of course she'd like to "see"=bang me again.

I honestly find the whole thing quite amusing just because it's so predicable when you're a Red Pill guy. It's great to be Chad and not the other guy...


[–]Smigg_e 49 points50 points  (15 children)

Either her boyfriend or she just doesn't want you to think she's a hoe. Woman are simple like that. Which is why you don't catch feelings until you're 100% sure it isn't going to fuck you over. After that I wouldnt catch feelings.

[–]1walawalawa[S] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

The bf thing is a possibility. But this girl was just up for everything: being tied up, public places, etc etc.

I was actually quite amused by the whole thing. Our eyes met briefly...she looked shocked...I think I must have looked half-amused. It didn't register until after because I didn't recognize her: bad clothes, the guy looked older, not some guy in his 20's.

But she actually has quite a good sense of humour: she's always talking about being a Russian spy or a fifth columnist and when we last met I pointed out an interesting article in a magazine about some business where private detectives spy on people having affairs.

She said "I'd be great at that kind of business"...

So if I was being fun I could text her and say "All part of the new business plan?"

or "Worst. Spy. Ever."

But she seems to be in complete distress over this because the tone of the text is panic.

I had a situation a year ago where the plate was doing this crap and I had feelings for her so I was in a huge drama. Now...I really want to know how to fuck with this girl's head without appearing like I give a crap...because I don't.

[–]ThaSupernova 10 points11 points  (1 child)

"Worst spy ever" seems like a very good way to go. It's playful and shows you don't really give a shit that she's seeing this other guy. She's just a plate. Plus you don't know who this other guy is. Could be an orbiter, could be a BF, could be a sugar daddy for all we know. But what's likely is that he doesn't have the cojones to tie her down and do that freaky Chad shit that you'll do to her.

[–]1walawalawa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but read my update. I think right now she feels awful about being caught out...it's a "first" for her to be juggling two dudes----beta orbiter returning and Chad...so it kind of came as a shock when she saw me.

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall and seen how she reacted around that Dude...

One clear learning here for you newbies: game works. Be playful, neg, tease the shit out of her, sexualize early and quickly...and you'll be the guy she is freaking out over...

[–]Smigg_e 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Fuck yeah text her that. See how she responds. Shits a game bruh. Play the game. Hopefully you're starting I realize that which I think you are because those moves are perfect. Might be too late if you haven't already texted that to her. It'll make it seem like you're dwelling on it too much. But right away within the first couple hours would have been 👌. Call her out on that shit but make light of it. You don't want her to think you're effected by it and take her hoe ass seriously you just want her to know you're on to her bullshit and she cant get shit by you.

[–]1walawalawa[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is what it feels like to be "Chad"...you can have complete amused mastery...waiting, teasing...push/pulling...

It's great because when we were hanging out she would shit test and say "Have you done this with a lot of girls??" etc...

I really love it when you flip the script on a girl's hypergamy-fueled moral virtues...

I'm going to let this simmer for a while...more fun to let the hamster explode while she's with unsuspecting bet

[–]1walawalawa[S] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Dude...you get the prize and an upgrade as having great insights.

Yup, dude was some bf or ex or whatever...Wall of text is her hamster just exploding....she now risks losing me and realizes this other loser who dumped her is obviously trying to make up for lost time...but she's not putting it out there for him---I barely recognized her because she was so dowdy compared to how she was dressed each time I met her.

She wants me to know she had feelz for me blah blah blah.

I think if I was flippant to her it would ruin the whole drama she's built up in her head. I need to soft-next her for a while...then suggest a meet up and proceed to bang her senseless.

She's a great bang...But now that she's realized how bad this all looks....she's trying to find a way to position it.

But in this wall of text she in no way said she was leaving this guy or being on her own...go figure.

A year ago I had a similar situation but had developed da feelz---I didn't handle a lot of her bullshit running around very well then apart from getting back with her and reducing her to plate and then ghosting her.

This time I think there may be a way to convert to steady plate by going radio silent for a bit.

All very interesting to see how all the theory plays out so clearly.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 3 points4 points  (4 children)

You have learned well.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

agreed. when one isnt sure of next move, silence is always best

one of them laws of power me thinks

[–]1walawalawa[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I could make light of it...but from the stream of consciousness texts she clearly feels bad about this...so why interfere with that?

This drama is something she's enjoying on some level because it's about the "feelz".

The main message in her rationalization is basically: "yah it's bad to two-time guys, but with Chad the feelz were real".

The key learning for me: don't get too emotionally involved, enjoy it...be the navigator of that roller coaster.

It's stuff I have been getting better at but am now more effective at managing it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you have managing yourself down pat

Managing bitches will get easier

[–]1walawalawa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's taken a while to get it right. The last time this happened I pulled it off: I converted the girl to FB status and eventually just ghosted her when she made some crazy texting accusations to justify her tree-branching.

But...I felt awful afterwards because i'd become attached to her.

I still see her and ignore and can see she desperately wants my attention. But among other things she stiffed me for a pair of shoes I had made for her by a shoe-maker friend of mine so that is a capital offense.

In this case...it's a felony but mitigating circumstances are I have been introducing her to wild kinky sex so it's not like I've revealed anything to her that would make me appear weak.

[–]Peter_B_Long 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You can never be 100%

[–]Smigg_e 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True that. LTR for 3 years I still no things could change tomorrow. Just the nature of the beast.

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see.

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (1 child)

I bet it's her bf and she got spooked you'd approach her and blow her cover.

[–]1walawalawa[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Indeed...it was an kind of "ex" who ghosted her and recently returned after she'd tree-branched and started doing all sorts of wild and freaky sexual stuff with me.

Now that her "cover" is blown...she's scrambling to make sense of all this: the returning bf and the wild alpha Chad...

I think what helped me was not getting emotionally involved and having a rotation...

Also, constantly sexualizing ever single encounter was crucial. If she suddenly dumps me...it's for a beta orbiter not because her deepest darkest desires aren't being met.

It's amazing how now being emotionally involved gives a guy total clarity over a situation...

[–]SexySmexxy 14 points15 points  (1 child)

You're overthinking wayyyy too hard.

You know girls have plates too right?

You're a plate.

[–]1walawalawa[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right...she got caught and doesn't like the feeling of thinking that I think badly of her...

I may be a plate...but I'm not an "orbiter".

[–]obama_loves_nsa 24 points25 points  (3 children)

If you are clearly better looking and more alpha than the guy she was holding hands with you could easily milk this for some of the most perverted shit ever. Just don't act jealous and you'll reap the rewards. Act like you don't care then choke her during sex

[–]hawkeaglejesus 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Act like you don't care then choke her during sex

TRP summed up

[–]curiouscur 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Agreed.

I dont even think OP needs to respond to her text. Just booty text her next time, nothing more than just some sweaty cardio session.

[–]numandina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed the sex will be even better now.

[–][deleted]  (7 children)

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[–]1walawalawa[S] 28 points29 points  (4 children)

I explicitly said "No 'plate for anal'"!!! Who let this guy in here?

[–]ImVendetta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha 😂😂😂 This made me chuckle.

[–]PreOrgasmGroanLness 2 points3 points  (2 children)

There are your boundaries crossed... How you gonna play that?

[–]Smartasm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

soft next the motherfucker!

[–]chronosthetitan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's correct. He wouldn't be posting that if he wasn't already thinking about it, which shows he cares.

[–]curiouscur 3 points4 points  (0 children)

😂😂

[–]PreOrgasmGroanLness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

btw what does that mean

[–]Luis_McLovin 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Ignore. Fuck her drama.

Invite her out if you want to screw again and only then.

[–]Velebit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you are both sluts who try to keep quiet about it, now it's clear she is a slut, she is not sure you are a slut too, just say it's all cool and you don't mind and thereby showing you are of same creed, otherwise you appear sad/jealous/moralizing and lose the plate

[–]2comment 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I laughed.

There's nothing else you can do other than make use of it. People are gonna do what they want, consequences from other people just make them hide it better.

Aren't you glad you're the Chad and not the clueless hand-holding boyfriend?

[–]ForeverMaverick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Couldn't agree more. This why I usually hide dirt I find on plates. If I find dirt on a cold-be LTR, I just downgrade to plate and keep to myself. If they know you know, then you must enforce consequences which inevitably means you have to end things and not look back, otherwise they will never respect you.

[–]speed3_freak 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Reply, "it's too late, I'm returning the ring I bought you tomorrow."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

i think going silent makes her think you care. I would text her casually like you don't care.

[–]1walawalawa[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Two points about going silent: 1) it's a default position...when in doubt go silent 2) Casually texting like I don't care would lower my value because it would take what she personally regards as bad behavior and signal that it's ok.

She wants to believe Chad is higher value than "bf" who ghosted her and then begged her to get back together...

She's tree-branching.

I'm watching hypergamy in action and am the Chad instead of the guy coming back hoping to re-kindle something.

[–]ForeverMaverick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is correct. Going silent absolutely does not signal you care, even if you do.

[–]bengalsturntup5532 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You should of proved you were alpha and chased off the mate. Then dry humped her right there.

[–]could-of-bot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's either should HAVE or should'VE, but never should OF.

See Grammar Errors for more information.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

id just wait 1 to 2 days and text

Aw....He seems sweet, its obvious he dotes on you

That should take him down a notch in her estimation and your carefree, coolasfuck attitude brings you up a peg

from there, its just escalte to fuck because now you know that's all she is good for

[–]1walawalawa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought about the correct response. Definitely a soft-next because she needs to know that this is "bad". If I make myself too available I will downgrade myself to "nice guy".

it's interesting, she writes that she wants to see me again but understands if I don't want to see her. Caving in and saying "it's cool" or some variation would be validating that two-timing is ok.

I had been thinking of just responding with: "Wait...that WAS you?"

But again, it would make the whole self-criticism she's experiencing a joke and would lower my value.

She sees me as higher value and something she may be "losing".

I was the Chad. In a very short time, she goes from "serious" relationship to banging a new dude then back to "bf".

A few clues to this: badly dressed, texting me almost immediately after seeing me--did she ditch this guy and then start texting me?

The Red Pill is about calibration of response. Too much of any one thing and you end up tipping your hand and removing the mystery.

Interestingly enough, there's another girl I gamed a few months back who is married and lives in another city. I invited her to come out. She texted me the other day to say she was coming to some musical event I suggested she attend. Girls are always thinking like this...plausible deniability, hypergamy, making the whole thing seem like her idea while leading...

[–]1walawalawa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Update

I had a think about this and did respond 4 days after her epic confession.

I texted her around 11:45pm at night: "So...how will you make it up to me?"

Clearly hamster was in over-drive. She replied the next day:

"What can I do?"

I thought...myeh, boring response... she could do better than that. I don't wanna just say "Dress hot, come over"...I want this to be her idea which I approve.

So I replied with elipses: "..."

Hamster again in overdrive...no response. She wants me to tell her to come over so she can tell the other guy it wasn't her idea...

I'll see how this plays out.

[–]FuckboyAWALT 3 points4 points  (4 children)

She's a plate there is no exclusivity.

In addition it was probably an Orbiter, so Play it cool.

[–]wheresMYsteakAt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm with the other dude, I think it's the bf. I lean that way because she wasn't dressed well in the story and they were holding hands.

[–]meaningintragedy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Holding hands with an orbiter?

[–]1walawalawa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good catch...Read the update...it's some "ex" who's returned.

What struck me was how shabbily dressed she was compared to when we meet last week and mid-week.

She looked great then...so dudes...let that be a lesson...she's wearing sweat pants and flats...there's probably a guy like me banging her somewhere in the background.

[–]FuckboyAWALT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yh if she can keep him through that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Walawalawa more like wattabeast.

[–]zayelion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AWALT, normal natural thing Chad. Just fuck her when you see her blah zay blah zay. If it upset you ghost, but I think you should find this amusing.

[–]ihateyouguys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just here to say I'm glad you shut down that retarded "plate for anal/ghost the bitch" posturing shit before it started.

[–]bengalsturntup5532 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plate for anal lol

[–]The__Tren__Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a tale as old as time

[–]chronosthetitan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your averaging 2-3 girls then why bother even paying her a 2nd mind? It's easier to replace rather than chase.

[–]Mustaka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truth is her boyfriend never left her. She is looking to branch swing and you are the target but she would need to anchor you first before bailing on her beta.

This one sounds like a great plate but will never be LTR material. Keep her as a plate.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah mate, if she brings up seeing other people just tell her "that's what I thought this was all along, just having a good time...I thought you knew I was seeing other people..." Calm and casual. Keep the plate unless you don't find her attractive anymore.

[–]Cunt_Robber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Enjoy it dude. Let me share what happened to me a couple days ago. Ex-plate with whom I cut ties because she was getting clingy and i didnt have the time for her hits me up. She's in town. I suggest we meet over drinks (and planning on it leading to sex). She agrees. Then I tell her to just buy whatever she wants to drink and just come over. She does. We drink. We fuck. Hard. Then she starts telling me about this guy she'd been seeing. He's here in town too, and she's spending the night at his place when she comes to visit. Cool. I tell her Im going to bed by X time and she complies and leaves by that time. I laugh. That guy either got sloppy seconds or nothing at all.

Once you become chad, women will assume their whore form around you. All you have to do is stay in your asshole frame and treat them like the whores they are. Objectify the shit out of them. If they seem to want to be treated nice, another chad beat you to it and she sees you as BB.

[–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, who's the dude who called "BF" on this? You get the prize. I just got bombarded with texts, WhatsApp, two missed calls.

Read the post much later but after reading about the way you described her being poorly dressed I figured cuck boyfriend right away. Before that I figured it was a massive slut riding multiple cocks, you have those to.

[–]LordThunderbolt -1 points0 points  (1 child)

"Hey wyd now. Come over"

[–]1walawalawa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is good: minus the "wyd now" part. I think "Come over" at some point soon would be the way to do this.