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How did Patrice O'neal(RIP) know so much about how women think, act, psychology, and interplay with men. (self.asktrp)

submitted by CrankyOnion

I recently stumbled on to clips of O'neal from the O&A Show about what he thinks, how he acts, and the psychology of women. My first question is did he learn this from experience or did he have help from other resources like books, etc. My second question is are there any resources, books, or video series that have similar information as O'neal gave out but in a more straight foreword and concise manner? I ask because it is hard to get the straight answer or extrapolations from the videos because he is usually talking over two simps, entitled women, or both.


[–][deleted] 70 points71 points  (5 children)

Look up the greatest story ever told on radio on YouTube. It’s him telling the story of going to prison as a teenager on a false rape accusation.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 50 points51 points  (2 children)

From his wiki

At times he would encourage people to call out to the stage to set up a punchline. "Ladies, how would you keep your man if you lost your vagina?," O'Neal would ask of his audience. When the women would invariably reference oral and anal sex, the comedian would respond, "See, I gave you the chance to talk and you qualified yourself as a series of holes."[47]

PWAHAHAHA

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

When I was seventeen, a male teacher handed me the feminist manifesto to read and absorb. If he had simply given me that quote, I'd be a lot less fucked up right now.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grade school and post sec institutions are almost all controlled by far left supremacists.

It's sad, but once you see this bull shit for what it is.... You can't unsee it

[–]boom_bostic 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Wow, what a bitter red pill to swallow....& at such a young age. No wonder this man was so wise.

[–]ballsinyourcornhole 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Someone also mentioned his time in Brazil helped in determine he was a "winner" and that "women ain't us". He explains the concepts here:

https://youtu.be/AK_SI4jaZcI

https://youtu.be/gfrj-va6PHg

He was a genius. I listen to him regularly and always pick up on new things that pertain to my current situations

[–]Mr-Ed209 33 points34 points  (7 children)

Patrice is probably the best source out there. He had all his theories on lock and was able to defend them all humorously and also under the 'pressure' of women. He's obviously got quite a natural ability to pick apart underlying social dynamics and an appreciation for 'truth'. In essence what a lot of Patrice's theories boil down is the conventional 'pimp code' of the 60/70s. If you ever wanted to delve into the dark side of sexual psychology then reading up pimping would be it - Check out the biography of Iceberg Slim.

If you watch his stand up a lot of it is centred around pointing out common fallacies in society and deconstructing further than probably any other comedian. Theres a few stories he mentions which you can find on youtube as to how he developed his theories. Some of which are quite standard, e.g he was a fat kid who used to write poems to girls he crushed on - and got subsequently rejected. He also alludes to being a 'bum dude' (which I imagine translates a beta male) in the first 2 relationships he ever had.

He's alluded to a period of going to Brazil (despite having a horrendous fear of flying) to visit brothels over there. However, what he picked up there becomes a revelation to him, in that Brazilian women treat him better. Ofcourse he is paying for sex, but the dynamic runs deeper than that. Because of his status as a wealthy American and alpha male figure he is basically treated by the women there like a pimp, rather than a conventional 'trick' - which is men who pay for sex that the sex worker views as pathetic. If you are ever to travel to a third world nation and 'game' women there, you will understand what he's talking about.

There's also his meeting with Dante Nero - who was a former pimp and male stripper at the time. Dante claims to have an n-count of well in excess of 1500 women (when he stopped counting). Supposedly he had told Patrice a thing or two in regards to picking up women which Patrice was skeptical about. Then after a night out where Patrice had taken a girl back to a hotel room he mentioned Dante's name. The girl remarked to Patrice at length at how Dante was a renowned pimp and sex figure to her girlfriends and he basically held them all in a harem. Patrice remarks that her eyes lit up when talking about Dante, and in that moment he basically decided to become a student of Dante's ways.

Patrice's methodology and ideas aren't anything new. However, he is the first person to ever articulate them charismatically and hilariously in a way that normal people can understand. In essence he was a fat guy with a good heart, who wanted to learn how sleep with attractive women. He took principles from pimping such as 'being better' than the woman and not displaying weakness then developed them into his own 'slightly more monogamous' ethic.

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Gotta link for the clip where he talks about this Dante encounter?

[–]Mr-Ed209 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Heres a bit of Dante talking about it, starts around 10mins in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1kX52dAeBE&t=834s

I'm fairly sure I've heard Patrice mention the same story on Black Phillip, albeit in less detail. So I guess I'm piecing those 2 clips together from what I remember.

[–]xRedShadowx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Patrice hosted a show with Dante called the Black Phillip show (with Patrice being essentially a black version of Dr. Phil) back in 2006. You can find them all on Youtube, here's the first episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hAmCjqVkFg

After Patrice passed away Dante started the Beige Phillip show (says he is not as dark as Patrice was), where he and his cohosts essentially talk about redpill truths through more PC terms (albeit with lots of profanity). There over 300 episodes of the Beige Phillip show, shit is gold.

http://beigephillip.com/

It is my goto podcast for when I am driving or in between audiobooks, really helped with my unplugging and I would highly recommend it. They answer listener mail on the show, which an ex-gf of mine actually got her question about me answered on the show haha.

[–]omega_dawg93 1 point2 points  (3 children)

i've told several guys that rollo, roosh, and roisy all have PC versions of what is essentially PIMP game theory. the things they tout about gaming women, holding frame, being the prize... along with women's innate behavior and instincts are ALL covered in old, street, pimp talk.

see rosebud's vids on youtube. see countless books on old school pimps and how they talked. now, the pimps peacocked HARD with all the hats, suits, and shiny shit, but behind the scenes, the mentality, logic, and theory applied. it worked back then and it works now.

"the game is SOLD, NOT TOLD." well, people are buying rollo's (and other's) books. it's selling.

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    [–]omega_dawg93 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    PC version in that context means "street talk... pimp talk that has been toned-down and communicated in basic english language, not street slang or pimp-speak."

    example: in the book, "the rational male," rollo says, "make yourself your "MPO," or mental point of origin, meaning, your life is to be lived on YOUR terms and your woman should fit into your life; do not make your life about her. well, the pimp rosebud simply says, "bitch... I'M THE PRIZE... you're lucky to have my time... now, fall in-line or you'll be replaced."

    same concept... different speak.

    [–]2chazthundergut 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    1. He was a brilliant and gifted man.

    2. He was a great critical thinker and was able to analyze human behavior objectively. Being a high-level comedian made him a particularly good student of people in general.

    3. He had the Red Pill rammed down his throat when he participated in a gang bang in high school and the girl later freaked out because people were calling her a slut and falsely accused him of rape. He was sent to prison for this, and it clearly affected his perspective and tore the fantasy away from his eyes at a very young age.

    4. He was a big fat black guy who wanted to fuck bad bitches. Being obese like that will burn the red pill deep inside your soul because you get to see the bitter truth of hypergamy for yourself through many many failures. I can say this for myself as a similarly obese man; being overweight puts dating on HARD MODE ... if you're a big fat motherfucker you need game to get laid, you can't really just get lucky

    [–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Gifted is the key word. Something no one else in the world could do no matter how hard they tried.

    [–]red_matrix 9 points10 points  (3 children)

    Didn't Patrice say he went to Brazil when he was young and slept with a bunch of escorts? He then said that being with a beautiful woman became no different than any women (he was no longer intimidated by hot women), and that the prostitutes all told him the same story: weak men turn them off and other red pills...and from there he pieced together the red pill from experience. The "Black Philip" show should be step 1 of the red pill journey.

    His co-host Dante was a pimp...which was the ultimate red pill, his story is a good one. He has a show called "Beige Philip"

    [–]bl1871 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Please Define weak more clearly, to concrete actions. Appreciate it.

    [–]1morescoobysnacks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Read magic bullets. It's probably the most well-respected book in the pickup community. Game is all about conveying alpha behaviors (copying behavior from naturals was how Mystery, Neil, and the other crew started the whole thing off).

    [–]red_matrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Download the Black Philip Show mp3's or watch them on YouTube. You need to hear it from the man himself.

    [–]omega_dawg93 44 points45 points  (22 children)

    you may not believe this, and i may get 1000 down votes for typing this, but the truth is...

    black men have BEEN dealing with over-bearing, "strong independent" women who "don't need no man," since the 60's. they were MGTOW before MGTOW was even born... just going about life at their own rate, pace, and purpose. their style, attitude, swagger, and AVOIDANCE OF MARRIAGE was born from this time. they were looked down upon for making babies and running, but the truth is... they knew marriage was a losing game, and that all the sweet, innocent women were not so sweet and innocent. now, MOST SMART MEN are avoiding marriage!!

    they caught hell in society, at work, and at home... from women who wanted to wear the pants from day #1. Patrice had a mom from the streets... he saw her behavior, watched her moves, and learned from observation. i don't think he ever knew his father, and i don't think he's mad at him after watching his mother's behavior. Patrice was also a reader; so much of his education on the subject matter came from books, but i have no clue who he read.

    bottom line: black people NEVER had the opportunity for the "leave it to beaver" life portrayed on tv. black women have always had to help-out financially. and many of them (to their credit) sought-out education and careers long before it was the "you go girl" thing to do; they HAD to do it. but with that education and 'independence,' they grew their attitude long, long ago... feminism put that attitude on steroids.

    now it might be easier to see why almost 70% of black women in america have NEVER been married. the brothers didn't fall for the bullshit long ago, and they're still not falling for it. welcome to the 60's.

    [–]menial_optimist 34 points35 points  (8 children)

    What the fuck. Pre-60s most black families were intact. The 60s is when you had the rise of the welfare state and ghettos for blacks, a situation still ongoing today.

    [–]omega_dawg93 12 points13 points  (3 children)

    you can add "big daddy government" taking the place of the man in the household too... that only ADDED to the demise of the family unit and dependence on hand-outs. that is happening across racial lines RIGHT NOW.

    this is a FEMALE thing... doing without men. the gov't, with section 8 housing, programs for ALL women, etc., has made depending, relying, and seeking out (good) men a thing of the past. women are swiping right just as fast as you are... for the SAME PURPOSE.

    hypergamy in the future will not be 50/50 alpha fucks, beta bucks. because of women being educated, self-sufficient, empowered, riding the CC, etc., hypergamy will be 80% alpha fucks, 20% beta bucks. that's why women in big cities on the east/west coasts are sooooo fucking aggressive. they are REALLY living like samantha on sex and the city.

    you better get ready to bring da dick like a porn star... that's all they will want from you. fewer and fewer college educated women are seeking marriage; they also see it as a losing proposition (if they can't marry WAAAAY up). the game is changing... gov't is in it too.

    [–]hominidlucy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    How's this upvoted?? By your analogy every household before the rise of feminism was such a wealthy unit. This contradicts the facts that state that very few people owned the land and most men (and their family) were tenants short of being slaves or later on at the dawn of industrialisation were scraping a living with small wages. Men fought for higher wages in the agrarian and industrial revolutions. It was only a matter of time that women were going to make their demands too.

    [–]omega_dawg93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    government is complicit in the plan for gender equality and female Independence bc...

    only men working is tax money.

    men and women working is waaay more tax money.

    the girls had it good but now they're in the game... and many aren't built for it.

    [–]mrpoopistan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    I'll argue it wasn't big government as much as it was big business. Given the role that regulatory capture plays in the modern world, blaming the government for what it does is like blaming a dewy-eyed cult member for following her leader's orders.

    Normalizing and flattening markets to make them more manageable is the default setting in a globalized economy. It's hard, for example, to build the New South that big business adores without flattening the hierarchy that held up the Old South. Regardless of what you think of the injustices of the Old South, you have to appreciate that the New South hasn't moved the marker forward all that much in terms of actual justice. Black people still get treated like shit, but now there's a police state there to do the work that was once done by what were functionally non-state, domestic terrorist actors.

    What it has done is made the market more manageable for big business by taking the edge off the region's reputation. It has also ensured that fewer product lines are sold in larger volumes to more people. Black folks eat horrible fast food and so do white folks (as do folks in China and Nigeria, cuz everyone eats KFC and Popeye's), and that's the great accomplishment of modern big business in flattening out a global world.

    Wherever big business and globalization go, they want to flatten hierarchies because hierarchies fight back and induce inefficiencies. It's not an accident that big business treats all patriarchal societies as backwaters.

    [–]hominidlucy 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    "Blacks should've stuck to being janitors and office boys just like the pre-60s" "Unemployment among blacks in the pre-civil war days was zero" Dude, do you really think life was a bunch of roses for black families before the 60's??

    [–]menial_optimist 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    We're not talking about the 1860s, dude.

    [–]satlinrabbow 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    you're retarded and not worth taking seriously.

    [–]menial_optimist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I have no argument

    Goodbye

    [–]VillagersUnite 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    black men have BEEN dealing with over-bearing, "strong independent" women who "don't need no man," since the 60's. they were MGTOW before MGTOW was even born...

    Me being a black man you seem to know quite a bit. Actually yes black men deal with a lot of shit from black women. I honestly feel like that's why a lot of black men like white women or just women outside of our race in particular because they're just tired of dealing with them. I don't side with MGTOW but I can understand why it exists. I used to want to be married. I wanted to marry my ex. Good thing our relationship never got to that point. I still want a kid honestly but I think having a kid with a black woman isn't the smartest idea. I've just seen too many men destroyed by child support.

    [–]Wrath_of_Trump 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Natural selection will select for submissive women, these strong independent black women (and increasingly white women) have no stake in the future.

    [–]dongpal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Because black women are bad at hidding their intention. White women are less obvious.

    [–]mrpoopistan 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    black people NEVER had the opportunity for the "leave it to beaver" life portrayed on tv

    It's astonishing how we act, as a society, like this weird little blip in economic history -- when one (white) man could hold down a job, feed his kids, and let his wife be the domestic goddess she wanted to be -- was ever the baseline for normal. For most of human history, it has been struggle and war and rape and robbery. Then we get a couple decades where life, for at least a certain group of white people, wasn't an utter hand-to-mouth shitshow, and we instantly decided that was normal.

    [–]omega_dawg93 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    no one said it was easy for ALL white people to live this lifestyle, but this WAS the lifestyle portrayed on daytime TV... from leave it to beaver, the brady bunch, the waltons, and even happy days.

    MOM STAYED AT HOME WHILE (ONLY) DAD WORKED. that was the norm... the dream... the goal. it was the ideal family. black people NEVER knew that. both black parents worked in the past, that present time, and now into the future. i don't have one black family where both parents didn't work.

    what you have now are the last remnants of white females who REALLY EXPECT TO BE STAY-AT-HOME wives. in all honesty, those days are gone for just about everyone, but MANY prototype barbie dolls and otherwise 'hot' women STILL expect that lifestyle as mom & grandmom lived it. iow, they put IMMENSE pressure on their men (in these modern times) to work so fucking hard that they can live in luxury while he busts his ass. that dude is a fool.

    the moment she's bored or her friends are living better than her, she files for divorce and the rape begins. again, this is still happening, but not as often as it used to. i think white women are finally giving up and going to work-even when their hubbies earn good salaries.

    [–]mrpoopistan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I don't know how that response differs from what i said.

    [–]omega_dawg93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    maybe it agrees with what you said...

    [–]BlackVale 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I am a black man for references and although I have never dealt with my mother like that, the few dealings I've had with women (black women in particular ) have rarely been good. Honestly dealing with black women have instilled a fear of women in me in general.

    Want to know what I mean? If a black women wants you, she will fight you. Not verbally or emotionally either. She will fist fight you.

    Now do you see?

    [–]Zanford 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Pretty much. Welfare state policies gutted the black nuclear family structure around that time (basically, the gov't started paying women to shit out as many kids as possible, and to kick the fathers out of their lives) and in the decades since, the same trends have "caught on" in the rest of the country. White and Asian nuclear families have been slower to break apart (due to more k-selected instincts aka the men being more likely to want to stick around, and being more likely to earn more money than the gov't handouts would be) but the trend is in the same direction.

    [–]zboo1h 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yeah man, this. He talks a lot about how he knew his mom was a ho, a dirty no-good ho, and how she treated the dudes she fucked with. He would talk about how all he was to his father was a nut, and how he completely understood how he could just be a nut to his father because of his ho mother - why would a man stick around for that?

    His show is absolutely fucking gold, and you can catch more gold on his O&A segments. Sadly, I think TBPS went to shit after Jeffrey Gurion showed up.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    This is great so white women are essentially adopting the personality black women already had for decades.

    [–]omega_dawg93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    white women have also screamed, "i'm a strong and independent woman," but they didn't LIVE IT. now, they're actually living it and it's starting to make them unappealing... just as many hardcore "strong and independent" black women are avoided like the plaque.

    here's the difference i see... from 18 - 28 yr olds:

    while they claim their independence, work, and ride the cock circuit, (most) white women USE BIRTH CONTROL and prevent the pregnancies by the thugs, losers, bad boys, and criminals. black women CONTINUE to have multiple kids by these clowns. who knows why?

    so by 29 - 30 when the white girl is looking for the beta bucks and stable life, she's not dragging 2 - 3 kids behind her (like most black women). the guy dealing with her only has to deal with the number of cocks she HAS HANDLED; SHE WILL CERTAINLY LIE ABOUT NUMBER. bottom line: you do NOT want to really know ANY woman's real cock count; the real number will scare you as girls KNOW they can get as much cock as they want... as often as they want. when they crave attention and know the pussy can get it for them, the number goes up exponentially.

    it's not your pussy, it's just your turn. just make sure she's disease free and hope she can supply you with enough pussy friction to spark your nuts to release.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Patrice was way way before his time.

    Likely he had a very high intelligence and was able to make those connections (red pilled truths) where no one else could.

    [–]yesbuthereswhy 8 points9 points  (5 children)

    I listen to Patrice O’Neal from time to time on iHeartRadio and I had no idea he died.

    I’d bet you’re not going to find much information out there that was as blunt as him. He was a true rebel in the sense that he said it exactly like it was. The fact that he was even given such a large medium to give his point of view is beyond me.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

    Dante carried on his stuff in the biege phillip show. Its close. Not the same but close.

    [–]DownyGall 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Yeah Dante is nowhere near Patrice

    [–]omega_dawg93 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    dante has the knowledge and experience, but he does not have the delivery or persona of Patrice.

    [–]DownyGall 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    “Walk up to a bitch and tell her that her breath stink”

    [–]omega_dawg93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    negs work...bc they automatically attack her self esteem and let her know that her looks don't affect you.

    she's on defense upfront.

    [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Patrice knew what he knew from direct experience and experimentation. He was in the field all of the time.

    This is where we encourage all of our newcomers to spend most of their time as well.

    [–]BostonPillParty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    The false rape allegations lead to not only Patrice, but a few friends being sent to prison. In his time there one of his friends has a complete breakdown due to his inability to cope with prison and from there on succumbed to being mentally sick. I think it was schizophrenia? It ruined the friend’s life.

    To say Patrice was affected by going through all of this and witnessing his friend essentially lose his life due to a woman’s false allegation would be an understatement.

    RIP

    [–]Wrath_of_Trump 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    He has probably had many females friends in his life. After enough time, you start to notice something strange, women want friends as a "friends" category, and the people they fuck are actually not friends at all in many circumstances. By not being in the friends category, you have access to the fucks category.

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    [–]Wakka_Grand_Wizard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    YES finally someone mentioned him lol if it wasn't for him, idk what would have been of me tbh. I wish there were more of him

    [–]FemtoG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    he was a crazy self contradiction of low self esteem and street smarts

    [–]mortalcoil1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Most high value men (celebrities) do. When you get pussy thrown at you 100 times a day like a hot woman gets dick thrown at them 100 times a day, you learn how the game works. Of course, most men know to shut up about it, and I'm not saying Patrice was wrong to be honest. All I'm saying is he got a lot of blow back for his honesty. In polite society you aren't supposed to call a duck a duck.