im confused. if plates are just holes to fuck, why do so many people here next one for sleeping with other people? (self.asktrp)

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so many post here always state that op is smashing the whole town and etc with no problem and it's on the girl to understand that.

but then they have a meltdown if one of their plates is fucking someone else.

why the double standard? from what i read, a plate is a no commitment thing. as long as she's not outright disrespecting you, its fair game.

if you are over here treating her like a gf (me and you against the world, etc) , arent you plating wrong? (lets be real , alot of people here are)

just looking for a explanation

[–]Endorsed ContributorFeralRed 134 points135 points  (32 children)

Because people here are confused and treat the plates like the girlfriends like the FWB and don't take any time to understand that these words have definitions and are part of a hierarchy that just happens to be on the sidebar of the main sub.....How to manage bitches

Stop trying to find meaning in the scribbles of first year schoolboys and open up the textbooks first.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is the best damn advice I’ve read on here in at least one year. that last sentence. yes.

[–]endertheend 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. The Op shouldn't have even needed to ask this question, It reeks of common blooper troll -confrontational writing. Which is stupid, OP is wasting his time instead of a)lifting b)working on his mission.

OP's question has nothing to do with either of those.

[–]2SirKolbath -7 points-6 points  (29 children)

If I may add to this, OP, it isn't the fucking someone else that breaks a plate. It's the fucking someone else and hiding it. That is deceit and is not to be tolerated. Not only is she lying to you and cucking you, but she's putting your health at risk to do so. If she's lying to you about the act, she's probably also lying to you about how it was done rawdog.

[–]red_matrix 23 points24 points  (11 children)

How exactly is she 'cucking' you? It's a zero commitment relationship centering on fucking.

[–]Redycha 12 points13 points  (6 children)

She's a plate, the point is that its non-committal on both ends. Neither of you should be talking about other lays. It's none of your business who she's fucking, just the same as it's none of hers about who you're fucking.

Health at risk? Wrap up, always. She's a goddamn plate. The only time you should be bothered by who she's sleeping with is if you be set some hard boundaries: family, close friends etc. In which case you next her.

[–]PR0JECT_XIII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally, you are spot on!

There is this one plate I am currently seeing once every couple of weeks, she has the potential to become an LTR but she has to put in the work. Cause we both lives a two hours away from each other there is a real possibility we are both fucking other people. I don't ask, I don't care what she is doing, I am not hounding her wanting to know who she is talking to, or what she did over the weekend - that is not what I am asking from her.

If she wasn't interested in seeing me she has every opportunity to flake, dodge or ghost. Instead when I see her she makes me breakfast, doesn't hesitate at all when I want to fuck her, I extend and invite to join me in the shower, and minutes later she is showering with me...

I haven't seen her in a couple of weeks as I have been doing what I want to do. So this weekend when I see her and I will have to establish where I am at.

If shit is not working for you, go back to the basics. Stop being so emotionally bound up and wanting to know everything.

[–]2SirKolbath 1 point2 points  (4 children)

You do you. That's fine, but that is not how I choose to operate with my plates. They can do whatever they want, provided they are open and honest about it.

I don't see why this is such a difficult concept to understand. I don't give a shit who she fucks. I care about being lied to. I don't lie and I don't tolerate those who do. This isn't goddamn rocket surgery.

Think of it as a test, if you can't grasp it any other way. If she lies to me, she fails and is nexted.

[–]donkeydodo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you implying that if the plate doesn’t openly state that she is fucking other dudes, she’s lying? By definition that’s not lying in itself, if you however ask if she is fucking others, says no but is in fact doing so, she’d be lying to you and that I can agree upon that I wouldn’t want that either

[–]2SirKolbath -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

I think what entertains me the most about this particular thread is that the same halfwit boobs who don't understand why not allowing your plate to pick up men while on a date with you isn't mate guarding are also the ones absolutely failing to understand the difference between a plate who fucks other men, and one who goes behind your back to fuck other men.

Tolerating such behavior is scarcity mentality in action, but I'm out of this thread. I've had all the idiocy I can handle and I'm going to the gym. Good night, kids.

[–]Iwannachokekatie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sound pretty butthurt.

[–]epicfadeout -1 points0 points  (0 children)

all the idiocy you can handle? cmon man, you're the one who used the term "rocket surgery"...

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If she's a plate you shouldn't even be asking if she's fucking someone else let alone caring. There shouldn't be anything for her to hide.

[–]cl3537 7 points8 points  (8 children)

You just proved the OP's point and I don't think you get it either.

I don't wave in my plates face that fact I am fucking other women, nor do I ask them who else they are fucking I use a condom and have a don't ask don't tell policy.

If on the other hand I 'forgot to mention' who else I was fucking and then got butthurt when I found out she was fucking someonelse and not telling me than I would be you.

[–]2SirKolbath -4 points-3 points  (7 children)

You just proved the OP's point and I don't think you get it either.

Whatevs, kiddo.

I don't wave in my plates face that fact I am fucking other women, nor do I ask them who else they are fucking I use a condom and have a don't ask don't tell policy.

What part of, "It is the lie, not the act" are you wilfully ignoring here?

If on the other hand I 'forgot to mention' who else I was fucking and then got butthurt when I found out she was fucking someonelse and not telling me than I would be you.

You are neither smart enough nor good enough looking to be me, and you certainly don't understand my point.

Perhaps you enjoy being lied to. I do not. The fact that you're willing to tolerate it is indicative of scarcity mentality. Good luck working on that.

[–]cl3537 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Maybe you need an intelligence check you aren't as smart as you think you are. Go take an IQ test.

The last paragraph i wrote was written in a perjorative way because you DO get butthurt when you find out one of your plates is sleeping with someonelse and didn't tell you about it.

My plates have no need to lie to me EVER I don't put them in that position unless I want to promote them and then they aren't plates anymore.

[–]ModTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Enough of the asshole AMOG shit.

[–]cl3537 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think my point has been made so I will stop in this thread.

If you ask a plate if she is also plating you, you are asking for trouble. If she then subsequently lies to you about it then its your fault.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Whatevs, kiddo


[–]Shockblocked 3 points4 points  (2 children)

You get lied to. You just choose to disbelieve

[–]2SirKolbath -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Oh, God, I'm sorry. Does that happen to you? Maybe you should try not tolerating it, then.

[–]Shockblocked 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not about this life

[–]1redhawkes 45 points46 points  (7 children)

Because the lazy asshats haven'r read anything about plates and use that term left and right without understanding its meaning.

Also, you'll read bullshit like potential plate, my plate disrespects me how should I react*, the one you mentioned with fucking other dudes and similar variations of it.

Plate - series of holes you use as a human flashlight. Also, no such a thing as a plate, that's called gf. It's the most common misinterpretation you'll read here.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 13 points14 points  (0 children)

lazy asshats

I am sitting here on the toilet, crying tears of joy all over my phone.

[–]XT3M3[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

see thats one thing i myself had to learn. a plate isnt a plate till u have more than 1. other wise its a fwb/ potential gf.

didn't rollo say you can have plates you dont fuck tho? or did i read that wrong.

[–]assholeofthesky 13 points14 points  (2 children)

why would you have plates you don't fuck, that's a potential plate. not a plate

[–]XT3M3[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

i was confused as hell while reading that in rational male.

[–]AnjaJutta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I knew this male model guy who was spinning several 7-9 girls at the time and he had this one girl who was a 6 on her very best day and they used to spend tons of time together and she was trying all the time to get with him but he made it a point to never have sex with her.

[–]1redhawkes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should be aware that the potential gf has to go thru the plating process at least for 6 months to vet her for red flags.

If you ain't fucking her, you're her girl friend/plate.

[–]Ramesses_ 42 points43 points  (2 children)

You need the sidebar as much as those guys. Men and women are not the same. That's red pill number one. Terms like double standard are just blue pill conditioning, a bizarre attempt to convince us men are like women and women are like men. That is not the truth. Promiscuity in women is a deeply ingrained turn off for any healthy male. It is the opposite for women. Men want to be their partner's first. Women want to be their partner's last. Again, men and women are very, very different.

[–]Bruchibre 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Men want to be their partner's first. Women want to be their partner's last.

Happy to read someone else saying that. I had read it somewhere else maybe 10 years ago and never saw it again. Back then I told that to my (now ex) Girlfriend, her reaction was: “So men don’t care if their girl sleeps with other men after?” How stupid. No wonder she’s an ex.

[–]cl3537 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Newflash for you buddy, the sidebar isn't a tome of knowledge. It isn't specific enough on many topics including this one and doesn't cover everything.

It is ridiculous for you to claim the sidebar defends you fucking multiple women and then getting butthurt when you find out she is doing the same with men.

I could care less that women can more easily fuck(and some do) multiple men at a time that is irrelevant to the argument.

[–]DiggerClam 21 points22 points  (2 children)

No. 1: How the hell would you know what your plate is doing or fucking? If you're asking her about it you're a fucking needy retard.

No. 2: If she rocks up to your house and starts blabbing about other dudes that she's fucking, that is both DISRESPECTFUL and she's creating DRAMA. Both of those things you don't want and that is definitely cause for nexting her.

[–]cl3537 6 points7 points  (0 children)

BOOM argument closed thank-you.

[–]zboo1h 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Funny thing: I don't care much if a girl fucks someone else unless she decides to bring that information to me, which is trying to start drama, so she's gone - not for fucking someone, but for telling me about it.

Second funny thing: girls forgive guys a million times quicker and easier for getting side pussy, it's in our fucking biology and subconsciously they're aware of that. Girls will only get mad if you take that slut out for a happy meal or something afterwards, which to me is also bullshit but that's the fucked up female perspective. I can stick my tongue in this dumb bitch's asshole but I'm not allowed to buy her some McNuggets? What the fuck?

[–]JustChopItOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And some women project their preferences ("I don't care if he cheated as long as it wasn't enotional") on to us ("I slept with him but it didn't mean anything!")

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Guys this girl breathed in my direction. How should I proceed with this plate of mine"

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because there are dimwits here who do not use terminology correctly and use plate spinning language to describe serial monogamy. The two are not the same and have different levels of investment and any long term Red Piller will tell you that LTR and plate spinning are two wildly different games that you should play in very different ways.

In short: these guys have not really swallowed the pill or understood the material.

[–]freew33zy 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Being that I have an LTR and plates, I don't expect plates to be exclusive to me--but it also does ruin my image of them when I know they are not. So, if I never find anything out with plates, I don't care; however, if I do, being that I already have regular sex from my LTR and whatever other plates I'm currently spinning, I do just lose appeal and unofficially next them.

Except in the case where she's taken when I get with her. But I only tend to smash those girls a couple times anyways.

[–]RedHoodhandles 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Does your LTR know that you have side chicks? If yes, is she exclusive to you or does she have sidedick?

[–]freew33zy 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Yes, and she's exclusive.

[–]RedHoodhandles 3 points4 points  (1 child)

How did you establish that dynamic?

[–]freew33zy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She was a plate for a while. I spent a lot of time with her, genuinely had a lot of fun together even outside of sex, explained that I saw a future with her but right now I'm only a 20-year-old male who needed to spread his seed and not ready for real commitment. Also broke a rule here which is "don't talk about TRP" (no, I didn't use our terms you fucking autists) and explained things like how men naturally are more polygamous so it's kind of silly to pretend otherwise... and she was into it.

I think the most helpful thing for me establishing it was that we never had a "the talk." Neither of us ever sought that out. We are probably the most laid back people you will meet in real life, and that conversation is not one a chill person has haha. So, instead, she was just a plate who I gradually spent more time with and I kept the benefits as if she was still a plate.

Edit: just wanted to edit in that she's also aware I am anti-marriage, so no, the part above about a "future with her" isn't in reference to that. She'd be down to be a long-term GF.

[–]Shockblocked 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So you think

[–]freew33zy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if she's not (pretty certain she is), what am I losing? If I called her my "main plate" instead of LTR and did the exact same things, I'd be encouraged to not care about her fucking other people. This is definitely a step above that for the relationship between me and her while keeping myself available for others too. You have no point here, lol.

[–]Peter_B_Long 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To me, as long as a plate is reliable and isn't disrespectful, she qualifies as a plate.

She can have sex with other guys it's fine, I'm using a condom.

Maybe some guys are screening their plates for an LTR which is why they get all butthurt when they suspect their plate is plating them.

At the end of the day it all comes down to your preference and boundaries. I'm ok with plates sleeping with other people because I'm sleeping with other people and I'll be open about it.

[–]abudun79 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That is because those hardcore red pill sissys boys are emotionally attached and are only hamstering their "currently only plate" from oneitis into just a plate.

[–]MentORPHEUS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they have a meltdown if one of their plates is fucking someone else.

These are not Red Pill men, and they do not understand plate theory if this happened.

Personally... plate relationships always operated on plausible deniability and dont ask-don't tell. It was ASSUMED that we were not exclusive; we didn't care because we liked being together when we were and it made our lives better than without.

If a plate started bringing others up in a bratty way- to invoke jealousy, attempt to hurt or anger me, or try to leverage my commitment (ha!), that would be breaking the plate social contract, and that would precipitate a natural end to the plate relationship.

Plates are by definition noncommittal. The apparent "double standard" is not a flaw in Red Pill canon, but a result of men not understanding the definition in the first place.

[–]TryhardPantiesON 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one wants to catch an STD bro. You can only control what girl you are going to bang, you can't contorl who your girl bangs.

[–]Ruby_Red_Pill_Maker 1 point2 points  (2 children)

ITT you will see the male hamster at it's best!

[–]1ANGRY_ATHEIST 3 points4 points  (1 child)

What the fuck is this shit?

Remember when posts like this were banned for concern trolling? Good times.

[–]Ruby_Red_Pill_Maker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the warning.

[–]soulmysold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simply because you don’t want STDs.

[–]Deep_freeze202 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A woman fucking another man throws up a lot of red flags.

[–]menial_optimist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem I have with the plating concept is one needs to erode the natural bonding that happens between a man and women who engage together sexually. It requires both parties to be mutually exclusive objects for no other reason than each others sexual pleasure. I believe that it might be possible for a man to completely change his mind this way but 99% of women cannot, and will, even from the very beginning, hope for an LTR with at least one of the guys they are screwing. I have a hard time with the concept of knowing this and yet proceeding sexually anyway to "get as much out of her as you can" before she begins cracking due to the emotional rollercoaster.

To me this appears disingenuous, and the only argument I've seen against this is "bro, you don't think they manipulate men?". I'm going to have to read the sidebar more or hear a better argument before I'm convinced.

[–]djh860 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude have some self respect !

[–]i_pathfinder1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe we feel like we can train them toremebr their place as women?

[–]02537-41101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re people too. And like you, they have their own autonomous emotional needs. Nexting a side-piece for sleeping with somebody else shows a dented mental fragility.

You should be fine with the prospect of someone non-exclusive with you sleeping with somebody else. You don’t owe each other that sort of loyalty if all you have between you is sharing your cummies.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because they don't know what a plate is

[–]1ANGRY_ATHEIST 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why the double standard?

I'm sorry, what's the problem?

Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment. A woman who will have sex with anybody is as pathetic as a "nice guy" who will marry any woman who gives him attention.

Men and women are different, so they are held to different standards. Holding them to the same standards is a disservice to both sexes.

Women who have a lot of sex partners lose their ability to pair bond. This makes them great for sex, but terrible if you're looking for an LTR.

These are all very basic tenets of TRP and in the sidebar reading material.