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How many people who frequent TRP are *actually* crushing it in life? (self.asktrp)

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I was thinking about this last night...

I spend a lot of time in the r/bodybuilding, r/leangains, r/fitness, etc. The amount of people who spew garbage info and "knowledge," and just regurgitate the same old bullshit myths and memes is mind-blowing. And not-so-coincidentally, these same people have shit physiques and strength levels to match their shit comments.

Often times while browsing TRP, I see many ideas, statements, POV's repeated mindlessly. I wonder if it's the same thing as the fitness related subs? Are most people just keyboard red pillers? Are the actual red pill guys too busy actually crushing it in real life to waste their time on here?


[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 30 points31 points  (27 children)

Are the actual red pill guys too busy actually crushing it in real life to waste their time on here?

Please allow me to introduce myself.

There are two primary reasons that, in combination, lead me to be here:

First, I'm here to help. Lots of guys grow up without fathers these days. I'm an older guy, with a lot of accumulated wisdom1 and I know what I'm about. I can help younger guys, particularly those who don't have their heads up their ass w.r.t. the "Disney" version of life, so I do. If my inbox, and the replies to my comments (at least as they trend) are any indication, I'm fairly good at it.

Second, while I have a lot of personal freedom, I do spend a lot of time online, for at least a couple hours each day. While I'm waiting for things to percolate elsewhere, I check in here. I also read financial sites, travel sites, news, and whatever else I happen to feel like reading that day. Against boredom, the gods themselves struggle in vain.

I, and the other successful older men who come here do so to Light Up The Path for you younger guys. If you can see it, you can be it. Your version of success may be different from mine, your "ceiling" may be higher or lower than mine, but better that you see that it can be done than have to battle a Blue Pill World, by yourself, that only wants to beat you down.

So what does my version of success look like? I live in the house that I want to live in, I drive the car I want to drive (a Porsche, if anyone cares)2 and I fuck the girls I want to fuck....well, not all of them, but enough to keep me happy--if you have options, they can't fuck with you. And I have a shit-ton of Freedom. If it was summer, after the Monday staff call, I would be out grilling some steaks on my deck. Or taking a dip in my pool. I have geographic independence within North America, and when I want to travel, I travel, etc.3

So that's why I'm here.

1 Wisdom that was gained from long and difficult experience...but for you guys, it's free!

2 When I was 16, I got it into my head that I wanted a Porsche. Why? Because Porsches are cool? Well, there's that. But I was really thinking symbolically. At that age, having a Porsche symbolized freedom and success. I knew (or "knew") that if I had a Porsche in the future, it would mean that I had a lot of freedom and control over my own life, as well as some $$$ (and money is the fuel of freedom). Life, however, is about the journey. So as I accumulated wealth (and freedom) I no longer "needed" a Porsche, which was just a symbol anyway. So long after the time when I could have afforded one, I didn't bother getting one. Then this past summer, a guy I know wanted to buy my Benz, so I started looking to replace it, and on a lark looked at Porsches. I found an extraordinary deal--and really, if you've read this far, you're legit, so let me tell you this: fall in love with deals not cars or houses or boats--so I bought it.

3 Before anyone accuses me of "humblebragging", first, I'm not humble, and second, on a thread about "crushing it", I do have to show at least a little bit of what's behind the curtain.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Lol, your car costs more than your house.

Though your house took more welding to complete, so it's more macho.

BTW guys, this man gets it. Guys are the romantics. Most never had good dads growing up, so we instead become that man to the other guys out there, because we aren't a crab bucket. Alpha men want to create more alpha men. Peers are hard to come by, so you make your own

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Most never had good dads growing up

There's a guy in my side-project band who is immensely talented but riddled with self-doubt. He is open that one of his difficulties is that he was raided by a single mom. We were negotiating with a 3rd party, once, and, never mind that I negotiate for a living, when he asked me how I was able to (a) get what I want, and (b) not crumble at the first sign of resistance, I told him that, at bottom, it's the difference between having a dad and not having a dad.

[–]nostupidquestions111 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I told him that, at bottom, it's the difference between having a dad and not having a dad.

So it is not fixable?

Edit: truly

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (5 children)

So it is not fixable?

He hasn't chosen to fix it. He's busy being Billy Bluepill. I leave clues for him, from time to time, and now that he's on his 2nd divorce, he's starting to wake from his slumber. We'll see.

[–]QuiteRandomDUDE 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I told him that, at bottom, it's the difference between having a dad and not having a dad.

So it is not fixable?

He hasn't chosen to fix it.

Uncle Vasya, I know this is a broad subject but how can one make the first steps in fixing this? The getting started phase?

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Start with the sidebar. You are retraining your mind. I wonder if there's been a "TRP guide for guys raised by single moms" ? Because really, there are guys who have never tested their limits and such, because of the absence of a father.

[–]QuiteRandomDUDE 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You know, I was raised to never risk doing anything "reckless". And to always take the safe route. Makes sense what you say.

Maybe some Endorsed Contributor will write some thoughs one day.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hmm. I will have a think about it. I had a father present, and my parents had a very solid "Marriage 1.0" marriage, so I suppose I could have a think about it, and post a framework and then let guys comment about difference in their lives, and then we could strategize ways to overcome the obstacles they face. Like find a way to take some risks, within acceptable limits. Not like "jumping out of an airplane without a parachute" but there has to be something. Like I said, we can brainstorm.

[–]QuiteRandomDUDE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be amazing. Thanks Uncle Vasya

[–]1DonaldBaelish 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If I had to mention a few of the guys that have lead me through life , even though a bit exaggerated , uncle Vasya would be one of them.

Never would have I ever acquired the amount of corporate knowledge if it was not for his posts. Not only that , this guy has helped me go through problems with virgins and LTRs even though he himself spins plates. His Magic Ball 8 metaphors and extravagant style of writing get me every time.

Be worried when I don't like your posts , uncle Vasya..if you get what I am saying.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be worried when I don't like your posts

Lulz. I get the reference. And thanks for your support!

[–]eccentricrealist 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Vasily, always hitting the bullseye. As for the OP, yeah some guys are genuinely crushing it, others, like me, are still working on what we need to crush it and we use the experience of people like Vasily to guide ourselves towards a better path.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

others, like me, are still working on what we need to crush it

And that's the thing. Guys here are young and tend to be "works in progress".

[–]bowie747 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why don't you suck his cock

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    [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (11 children)

    A Cayenne. I'm rather generously proportioned, so its a better fit than a Boxster or a 911. I also got a SWEET deal on it, which is more important, actually, than anything.

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      [–]301niko 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Not hating but I don't like cayennes and panameras.

      [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      It's a free country. You don't have to. I'm not a fan of the Panamera, either.

      [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      You know a car guy is gonna point out that you can buy a decent looking Cayenne for like $8k.

      It's the internet. Shrugs

      I'm sure it's all the same to most females

      As a side bennie, I have to say, my various girls were all like, "Whooo-woooo!"

      but just saying "I have a Porsche" isn't gonna impress a lot of dudes.

      That wasn't the point of the story. That fact that it's a Porsche rather than a Merc or a Maserati or even an F150 is unimportant.

      Not hating, for all I know it's a brand new Cayenne Turbo.

      I generally buy mine coming off lease, and I let the other guy take the depreciation hit. This one was low enough mileage to be, in effect, a model year newer, and it was priced to move - I bought around bonus time for the Wall Street crowd (I live in the Northeast), which means high end car dealers are fat and happy, and selling 911s (in the case of Porsche). I worked the dealer a bit - although assuredly, they didn't lose money - because I was in a position where I didn't have to buy, and I present as a great customer because I have 30 years of smart credit decisions, and no wife telling me I can't have a Porsche. I was able to get the deal that I got for those reasons and because they were going to take the money from my deal and pour it into buying Spyders to sell to the Masters of the Universe. Dealers are in the car selling biz, not the car collecting biz.

      As a "life lesson" aside, I financed, even though I didn't have to, because the rate was so low that, based on current inflation, my cost of money is negative, and that's before you look at avoided opportunity cost of using the cash on something else, i.e. something that makes me money.

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        [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Right, but if I get too specific, then I'm the asshole bragging about his car, and the specs of my Porsche aren't the point I was trying to get across. Capiche?

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          [–]failingtheturingtest 2 points3 points  (2 children)

          Anyone who drives a Porsche (or any other car) to look cool or baller or impress sheilas is a 'poser'. Still trying to impress people is not success.
          The fact that you are so concerned about if he's got the 'coolest' Porsche or not (when he stated quite clearly, it was just a symbolic thing from his younger years and he is more interested in great deals than expensive cars) means you have lost entire point of /u/VasiliyZaitzev's comment.

          [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Correct on all counts. I would add that, had I not found the right deal, then I would have simply passed.

          [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Well, as it turns out, I'm with you on the "what's the point if it's not a Turbo?" bit, but that wasn't the point of the Porsche story - as /u/failingtheturingtest correctly points out.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 54 points55 points  (54 children)

          Are most people just keyboard red pillers? Are the actual red pill guys too busy actually crushing it in real life to waste their time on here?

          You'll never get a straight answer to this unless you have another way to sample and verify.

          But I'll answer for me:

          • Physique/Fitness: Halfway from where I started to where I want to be. I'd guess I'm now top 10%, but it's not enough yet. Top 5% is attainable for me. Beyond that the costs to the rest of my life will outweigh the benefits.

          • Finance/Business: This is going very well, I'm very happy with where I am and the path I'm on. Top 2%. I'd be happy to describe this side of my life as "crushing it".

          • Social: Not happy with my social life. I get on well with people and I'm well respected. Dealing with other people often feels "not worth the hassle", so I don't do much of it. This is the wrong attitude and I need to work harder on this.

          • Girls: Mixed bag. I'm doing too much online rather than real world approaches. Online is a bit of a trap - it works too well so it's too tempting to do that rather than genuine cold approaches.

          [–]groupof7 8 points9 points  (9 children)

          I came to the Red Pill because I've always felt that men's identities were being influenced heavily by a female-centric point of view. We could do nothing right. I had heard about the red pill and wanted to understand the nuances of the arguments being presented as well as the nature of dating, since clearly my perspective was skewed.

          To echo MattyAnon's format: Fitness - I'm happy with my physique and am slim, strong and flexible. I don't know the percentiles well enough to give you an accurate estimate.

          Finance - Put a lot of work into my career, made a lot of mistakes and am now enjoying the fruits of these labors. Any type A will tell you, once you reach a goal, it's ingrained in us to set another one. When it comes to my career, I'll be content, but never "crushing it" as there's always another mountain to climb.

          Friends - Most of my friends are married with kids. I have a good social life, have people who genuinely care about me, but would like more single friends to go to the bar with (one aspect of tightening up my dating game). I make friends very easily and tend to be the guy who connects people.

          Dating - After being Mr. Monogamy for a while, I made a commitment to myself to be single for at least a year and really tighten up my dating skills.

          Some have called me successful, however I don't feel that way. A close friend and I were talking about it and I, in serious frustration, asked "why is dating such a struggle" - to which he responded "I've known you for 15 years man, you say this shit all the time and then you go on a spree then settle down. Stop your fucking whining."

          Definitely more focused on online dating and am trying to figure out in-person approaches. Never been great at the bar or clubs, but historically had little trouble hooking up through other venues (house parties, coffee shops, etc.). Considering shutting that shit down entirely for at least a month or two and going strictly cold approach.

          I really feel this is the weakest aspect of my life and am actively working toward making it better.


          If this puts things into perspective any further - I officially swallowed the red pill 3 months ago. Though, for most of my life, my personal outlook has been similar - e.g. Don't put women on a pedestal, focus on your own goals (self-actualization) and everything else falls into place, and don't take yourself too seriously. Of course, I've strayed from the path from time to time.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 5 points6 points  (8 children)

          I came to the Red Pill because I've always felt that men's identities were being influenced heavily by a female-centric point of view. We could do nothing right.

          Yeah, the problem is that men only have a female-centric point of view. Everything is variations on one or other female views, never a male point which is never seriously mentioned (or when it is, it's got so much nod-to-the-female dilution as to be worthless). We're so inundated with "women are equal except they're also bullied by men" that anything that goes against this narrative is crushed by everyone including other men.

          Rest of your post: interesting. Your self assessment is probably roughly about right, although you clearly set high standards for yourself so you are probably hitting higher than you think you are relative to other people in most ways.

          The hard thing about cold approaches is that the conversion rate is so low (good day-gamers claim 3% approach-to-new-lay ratio) that you have to do a lot of it to get any information about what works and what doesn't. If you approached 10 girls and got told to go away 10 times, you might assume that you can't do it. Yet on average you need to do 30 approaches to get laid. (However I do still think this is worth it, because so many of those approaches take so little time and are useful learnings in themselves, plus of course you're probably gonna bang the girl more than once.)

          [–]asktrpthrow123 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          I agree it's probably worth it just to improve your skills. I however think, most people are probably doing some kind of co-ed hobbies and meeting girls that way, it'd probably result in a higher rate of success.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          I however think, most people are probably doing some kind of co-ed hobbies and meeting girls that way, it'd probably result in a higher rate of success.

          Your hit-rate from social game can be extremely high, and you can get close to zero rejections if that's your preference (but it shouldn't be). Girls in "warm" situations (you are known to her group) will often escalate hard themselves and make everything happen in my experience.

          [–]asktrpthrow123 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          There's probably some kind of indirect game just from having the ability to create social circles and become "warm". And I don't have much experience in that regard because my guys friends don't have women in their social circle either (figures) but I definitely don't doubt it's much easier that way.

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          And I don't have much experience in that regard because my guys friends don't have women in their social circle either (figures) but I definitely don't doubt it's much easier that way.

          It's not a panacea. If you're not attractive, doubling your results isn't going to help.

          The absolute best is house parties where you know people. Everyone knows everyone a bit. Girls can ask who you are, and so long as the answer isn't "this pedo rapist we try our best to exclude", you're fine.

          Literally just being known as non-dangerous is a massive social boost. Anything else you've got going for you (sociable, fun, successful, good looking) counts triple. It's like you have walked around with "potential rapist" written above your head, that suddenly gets removed.

          It's so much easier than day or night game it's another world. BUT... the social consequences are massive too.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yep. House parties and pool parties during the day at a house or fun apartment complex is definitely the easiest thing. Problem is that once people are over 21 it is not that common anymore.

          [–]groupof7 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          | Yeah, the problem is that men only have a female-centric point of view.

          Help me understand your perspective on this and why you think that's the case?

          |The hard thing about cold approaches is that the conversion rate is so low (good day-gamers claim 3% approach-to-new-lay ratio) that you have to do a lot of it to get any information about what works and what doesn't.

          C'mon!! 3% doesn't feel like it's a good use of time. I think that I may have increasingly unrealistic expectations. I thought 30% would be easily attainable on the high end.

          I've used the same system as I would with a sales position. Lots at the top of the funnel, eliminate those who aren't a good fit, nurture the ones that seem like they have potential and never leave a meeting without asking for their business.

          This is eye opening. Thanks!

          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          Yeah, the problem is that men only have a female-centric point of view.

          Help me understand your perspective on this and why you think that's the case?

          I'ts been explored extensively on TRP, don't want to go through it all again right now.

          C'mon!! 3% doesn't feel like it's a good use of time. I think that I may have increasingly unrealistic expectations. I thought 30% would be easily attainable on the high end.

          30% is unacheivable from a cold approach. I'd guess women are only available to be seduced .... what, 50% of their lives at most. More like 30% really. Add in logisitics and her other options, and you saying all the right things and doing everything perfect and nailing 50% of those, that gives you an extremely optimistic 15%.

          I can't see it.

          What makes it stack up as worthwhile at 3% is that you are not looking at 97 rejections... you're looking at 97 that sorta don't go anywhere fairly quickly. The annoyances are going to be the 6 that go on a date or two and nothing quite happens with them.

          If you're good looking (or have presence, respect, etc), you can do much better than 3% if you warm approach - get solid eye contact from the girl, or talk to a group and focus in on the likely target. That can bump your odds to 30%.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 6 points7 points  (19 children)

          Stealing this format.

          Physique/Fitness: Often accused of AAS usage.

          Finance/Business: Very good, own 2 businesses.

          Social: Pretty shit. Most of my friends are dead.

          Girls: Good, not that I care. Lowest priority.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

          physique pic? what kind of businesses? how old are you that most of your friends are dead? are you trying to make new ones?

          [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 2 points3 points  (5 children)

          physique pic?

          Nice try.

          what kind of businesses?

          Semiconductor - EE/CE

          how old are you that most of your friends are dead?

          Early 30s. It's hard to find worthwhile people.

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          physique pic? Nice try.

          ok so post one of a famous person who you are similar to.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

          You're coming across as fishing for DOXX info.

          Cut that shit out

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

          no i'm not. btw, what's your SSN?

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          We arent at 'banter' yet.

          So far, all ive seen is you bitch about posers, without anything on your end to imply youve done fuck all

          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Don't worry, we'll never be at 'banter'. Enjoy your misery.

          [–]TheBlackAlistar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          I interview with Samsung for semiconductors and fucked it up. But it's just something to learn from I suppose.

          [–]detachedbymarriage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Be glad you didn't get it.

          I know some ppl at that plant and they HATE it. The view from the outside doesn't tell how it really is on the inside.

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            [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 0 points1 point  (7 children)

            Yeah, the ex is still up in the air. I kinda miss it, plus the re-up bonuses are insane, they were 150K a decade back, looks like even now 1T2X1 from OED of '03 or newer is at 90K USD for E6+ @ 6 - or just 4 if you made it up to E9.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

            Fuck that. I've been a free man for almost 2 years now. I ain't never going back.

            From what my friends tell me, it's not the same one you left anyways.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 1 point2 points  (5 children)

            That all depends on your contract & missed / seized opportunities while in. It's really easy to join the Army and come out of it with literally nothing after 4 yrs. It's impossible if you go SF or a technology-related MOS in the Navy or AF.

            From what my friends tell me, it's not the same one you left anyways.

            This was always the consensus about most general forces / occupations. Military or not, niches have rewards.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

            Fair point. I sometimes had some nostalgia. Then I remember that each night I'm in my bed, each weekend I have off, and each rememberance/veterans day I don't have to parade in the snow.

            I do these things, and remember that my nostalgia and love comes with the distance from the actual day to day job, so I aim to keep that distance, and still have the fond memories.

            But if it works for you, who am I to call it a bad thing?

            [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            But if it works for you, who am I to call it a bad thing?

            Yeah but I'm not just trying to get you to see things the way I do. I'm trying to explain why I see things that way.

            If you play your cards (really) right, you can exit the AF with a full/free college degree (at least a 60k value), AS AN OFFICER at 22 with over 90K in savings if you save most of your pay, and at least 50k USD of free shit you would've otherwise paid for between BAH/med/food/etc. Now, is this living hell compared to college? Hell fucking yes.

            But you gain 200K net worth, arriving at 22 with 90K in savings, instead of 60K in debt - and that's not even factoring in the life-long advantages for having served, like USAA, house / SBA loan preference & military discount(s).

            Assuming you're not a dumb-ass, the opportunity is unrivaled. Unfortunately, 9/10 people who go military are. E-2's buying sports cars / spending their pay keeping them gassed up and not studying while in is NOT the military's fault.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            Yeah but I'm not just trying to get you to see things the way I do

            Don't bother. I did do that, I did play my cards right, got another degree, and 200k in the bank, and I'm never going back.

            Not worth the knees, back and head problems moving forward. Not worth having a bitch for a career that constantly takes without giving back, and even my Minister of ND has stated the current mission as "we are learning to do less with less".

            I already had issue with a 0 vision military, last thing I need is an underfunded visionless one as what I pin my hopes and dreams on. No thanks, I'm taking my money, and all the free shit it gives me, and moving onto somewhere that I can make bank from it.

            Fuck em.

            I already am earning more here than I did there, with no illusion about serving 'queen and country' to pretend I give a shit about.,

            [–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            You keep talking about not wanting to go back, but I'm just making the case that going in once, for 4, is worth it.

            I never disagreed with you about the facts that our military's retention, funding and vision problems are severe.

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              [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Yup... choose the game to play to your strengths.

              [–]failingtheturingtest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Are you top 10% in physique and showing it online? That might be something MattAnon is doing differently.

              [–]Ganaria_Gente 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              If I may ask: do you mean your online dating is incredibly successful, and you worry that your irl dating is neglected?

              Or that both online dating and irl dating sucks?

              Also how long have you been seriously lifting? I'm three months in,i see results already, but I'm stalling quite a bit...can get discouraging sometimes

              [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              If I may ask: do you mean your online dating is incredibly successful, and you worry that your irl dating is neglected?

              Roughly this.

              Also how long have you been seriously lifting? I'm three months in,i see results already, but I'm stalling quite a bit...can get discouraging sometimes

              A few years but it's been on and off according to what's going on in my life. Can't directly help with stalling, but check it's not overtraining or poor diet.

              [–]reecewagner 0 points1 point  (14 children)

              Social: Not happy with my social life. I get on well with people and I'm well respected. Dealing with other people often feels "not worth the hassle", so I don't do much of it. This is the wrong attitude and I need to work harder on this.

              Girls: Mixed bag. I'm doing too much online rather than real world approaches. Online is a bit of a trap - it works too well so it's too tempting to do that rather than genuine cold approaches.

              That's a good honest answer, althought I'm admittedly surprised to see someone TRP Endorsed not walking the talk as much as I would have assumed.

              [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (12 children)

              knowing RP enough to get EC doesn't guarantee you become a billionaire playboy with pussy from the sky.

              It does give you the roadmap on how to fix lifes issues, own your shit, and keep improving. TBH, I can't think of any RP guy who wants to have peaked already, even the 60 year olds are still improving from day to day.

              Rollo has been married 20 years, I'm 8 years in an LTR. Some guys are married, some are spinning plates, some college kids. Had a guy yesterday in MRP bragging about a 75k salary with 50k in the bank, and being promptly laughed out of the room, at the same time, some of those guys just now learning how to have proper bitch management.

              The manosphere is as diverse as people are... Only difference is these ones are on a path to get what they want, instead of letting life happen to them.

              [–]SeamusAwl 0 points1 point  (11 children)

              Had a guy yesterday in MRP bragging about a 75k salary with 50k in the bank, and being promptly laughed out of the room.

              Thats because he was a troll.

              at the same time, some of those guys just now learning how to have proper bitch management.

              Still haven't got a clue as evidenced by my wife putting a hole in the wall with my phone less than 2 weeks ago. All because I wouldn't show her where the non existent tinder app was on my phone and I think I laughed at her accusation. My phone some how survived unscathed by the way.

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

              UltmateCAD was on point with these scenarios.

              My question, were you even home for the next few days? Thats beyond a shit test, that's humansockpuppets post to a T

              [–]SeamusAwl 0 points1 point  (7 children)

              Yeah. I was home. My wife is usually quite good. she just misread a post I wrote where I quoted someone who mentioned how they did with tinder.

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

              Making excuses for her?

              I wonder how she would react if you put your fist through a wall beside her? /u/firetempered can attest that they don't like rage.

              I strongly advocate for the /u/sirgaetandrugas system. for the next few days, ghost her, don't answer your phone, otherwise she now has a new tool in her repitoire.

              And from personal experience, I can say you don't have to pull this out often. It sends a strong message to your presence being conditional

              [–]SeamusAwl -1 points0 points  (5 children)

              Making excuses for her?

              Yeah, probably. But it wasn't a shit test. She literally was in an emotional storm at the thought I had cheated on her with 10-15 tinder hookups. I had only needed to get to dread level 2 for my wife to respond positively. So for her to misread that post it sent her dread level way way up.

              I wonder how she would react if you put your fist through a wall beside her?

              I already know how she would react. She was shocked I didn't react to it. Other than to check that my phone was okay. It was so I just let her emotional storm die down.

              I strongly advocate for the /u/sirgaetandrugas system. for the next few days, ghost her, don't answer your phone, otherwise she now has a new tool in her repitoire.

              If it was a shit test over a power struggle or something, yeah. But as I said, she was in a serious emotional storm caused by her misreading a post I responded to.

              And from personal experience, I can say you don't have to pull this out often. It sends a strong message to your presence being conditional

              In case you haven't guessed it. My wife is aware of TRP and reads these subreddits. I spent too much time working in the garage and focused on my own thing one weekend and my wife thought I was punishing her. She already knows she needs my presence and I can withdrawal it from her (I always used that tactic in my pre-RP days).

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

              wasn't a shit test

              yes it was bud. Especially if she reads this shit. She can choose how to react.

              [–]SeamusAwl 0 points1 point  (3 children)

              Are you saying that an emotional woman could act rationally? But I digress. If that was a shit test then I must have passed it as she initiated the next few times.

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              so I assume you haven't been home at night since then? Just coming home early in the morning smelling like sex and taking care of kids not talking to her?

              [–]SeamusAwl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Quite the contrary. I spent the entire following week at home. Still smelled like sex though.

              [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              althought I'm admittedly surprised to see someone TRP Endorsed not walking the talk as much as I would have assumed.

              Yes, fair comment, and this is partly why I wanted to post this.

              We are chosen for EC status based on the quality and insight of our posts rather than being vetted for personal success in life, which if you think about it is the only way to do things on a sub that encourages anonymity.

              All the EC's have very strong strengths and write extremely well, but not necessarily being Chad or having Chad's priorities.

              [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

              Interesting, thanks for the feedback. Perhaps you could post a pic of a physique similar to yours? Athlete/ celeb maybe... What type of work do you do?

              [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

              Physique

              Type "male swimmer" into google and you get my body type (although I swim fucking badly). I look like a swimmer who retired a year or two back. It's getting better though :)

              What type of work do you do?

              Technical/business.

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                [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Girls vary in their preferences. The guys I've known who are really attractive to women have all been very slim.

                They seem to go nuts over abs more than arms.

                It's really hard to tell, because girls vary, they lie, and they want different men for different things. The "dad bod" thing is probably their preference for a provider that can't stray, but who the fuck wants a girl looking for that.

                Men want to be big to compete with other men, girls universally prefer low body fat. Their muscle mass preferences vary, but it's always lower than men think it is.

                [–]Fusionnn 20 points21 points  (5 children)

                I'm going to say nobody, the more I embrace red pill, the less and less I come on here. People who have already "made it" will not necessarily come back here

                [–]OsOsG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Agree

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                That's how I'm starting to feel. You start to see patterns and the same people posting the same stuff, arguments, theory, etc. Don't get me wrong, reading and learning is important, but I think TRP online world is just a place people go to pretend they're making progress rather than actually making progress in real life.

                [–]htbf 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                There are many types of people in here.

                The idiots who think they are part of the enlightenment and who spend their time writing stupid stuff.

                The realists who are making money and building their life around this new found truth about social dynamics.

                The convinced, that have started to put things in practice and just keep coming once in a while, either to keep track and not lose what they learnt or simply to share something they found out or a situation that happened.

                Point is, there are people who are actually using this for self improvement and making leaps forward in life.

                [–]returnofthemackX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Agree. At the best times I spend the least amount here

                [–]corsega 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Yup. Spent like 7 months posting here and as soon as I "got it" I stopped posting.

                Actually, the more real world experience I get the more I realize that the majority of advice posted here is BS. You can't get girls by being alpha. It comes down to looks, money and status for attraction. Alpha traits just keep them around.

                [–]abdada 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                Who knows. Reddit is mostly anonymous cowards, so there's no way to validate much.

                If someone on a fitness reddit posts a photo, I tag them in RES so I know they're legit.

                If they aren't tagged, they're not legit.

                [–]Aarxnw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Thanks for the /r/Fitness tip, that's actually an amazing idea.

                [–]Evilintentions 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                I think I'm doing all right for myself, I'm still young (22) and I know I'm ahead of 90% of my peers.

                I'm finally hitting my fitness goals, I'm 180lbs and I'm deadlifting 335lbs in a set of ten. Still don't know my max though.

                I've already been pretty engulfed in my career and that's just getting better as my skill increases.

                I started seeing this great girl recently, she's wife material. HB9 (also my opinion), super feminine Christian girl. We get along fantastically and it's much more fun hanging out with someone who also has value compared to just trying to bang some sluts. Getting rid of online dating stuff made approaching her a million times easier.

                So am I crushing it? I would like to think I'm starting to, and TRP helped a lot with that. I'll probably still browse here for some time cause tbh, I find a lot of it interesting and I like reading blue pill examples so I'm consciously aware enough to avoid that kind of behavior.

                [–]potatochipbicycles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                If your max reps for 335lb is 10, your theoretical 1RM is ~445lb

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Getting rid of online dating helped your cold approaches? Tell me more.

                [–]SovereignSoul76 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                Physique/Fitness: No 6-pack, but pretty close. I'm definitely in FAR better shape than all of my friends, but I try to only compare myself to me 6 months ago. I run, lift, and eat very healthy. I gotta cut out the sugar, and get rid of that final stubborn layer of gut fat.

                Finance/Business: Meh, around 75K/yr. That's enough to live comfortably, buy what I want, and I made a healthy chunk from some wise real-estate investing. But I'm no millionaire. Currently working on a business plan to be an independent consultant, and be my own boss.

                Social: I still have a very large social circle, but not many dudes to run-and-gun with anymore. But then again, I don't really like going out and partying hardy all night like I used to. As tends to happen, a lot of my friends live all over the planet now.

                Girls: CRUUUUSSSSHING it....with like 6s and 7s. As someone else said, I'm getting lazy and relying too much on tinder. Tinder is like fishing for sunfish, sure you can sit on the dock and catch a bunch of them, but it ain't like taking the risk of going out on a tuna trip and boating one of those motherfuckers. I need to shift from quantity to quality.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                independent consultant

                in what area?

                [–]SovereignSoul76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Construction

                [–]No_senses 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Honestly you don't know. All you can do is listen to the advice, compare it to your own experiences, use your common sense and make a decision. You can tell who some of the frauds are though. They post like they have some deep-seated hatred for women.

                To be honest, TRP isn't the type of community that you just subscribe to for years. Ideally most should hang around here for a couple months, gain the knowledge and motivation, then go out in the real world and crush it. There's no reason to still be here 3 years from now still discussing red pill concepts. I've heard that referred to as "intellectual masturbation." The lion has to leave the den. I've only started posting here recently, as I find answering questions entertaining. I'll probably stop in a couple weeks when I get tired of the same questions popping up from people who already know the answers.

                [–]blacwidonsfw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                I'm crushing it.

                [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Solid comment and physique, mate. What's your six-figure "real" job? Or at least industry/ job type?

                [–]1tino125 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Strategy Analyst in the Energy space.

                [–]Mr_Talent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                John, not sure if you are aware but it's possible to reach your profile through that link...

                [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Who cares?

                The only person here whose real-world success should matter to you is... you.

                This isn't a magic pill. It's homework. You have to take it home, pull it apart, put it back together, try it out, practice it, grind the corners down some so it fits.

                The red pill is not a formula for success, and silk is a not a parachute.

                You're still on your own. We're just here to help you get a clue.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Who cares?

                Well I do. Because I'm starting to feel like I should stop coming here at all. I wonder if I'm filling my head with bullshit from guys who just write theory that may or may not work.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                If people have to convince you, it's best you just fuck off now.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Following up to this crushing post

                Here because I was disillusioned with the military, when administrative violence happened and that moment of weakness cause my LTR to AWALT. Came here in the nick of time to stave off what could have been a life of quiet desperation and servitude/alcoholism.

                As far about crushing it, I am in the ways that are important to me. I'm still Jetsetting around the world, building a strong economic unit/tribe, couple hundred thousand for my future, in the top 10% of earners for my country, and sexually satisfied in a way that would cause dudes in their mancave to call bullshit. On top of that, can catch and release just find with the next wave of 20 year olds, so I have no fear of loss. She can be replaced, and it keeps her acting right, but I've been doing this in some form or another since 2000, back when Mystery was king.

                And like Uncle Vas, I'm here to help. Most fulfilling time in my former career was when I was an instructor. I get chub when someone tells me how I was able to improve their life with my influence. That and since starting my blog and coming here, my writing has improved considerably.

                What you'll notice, as you start becoming valueable to the men in here, and you are worth a damn, is that the other successful guys will start to connect with you, and you'll be posting less, but PM'ing or DM'ing on twitter with them more. Possibly even IRL meetings with a lot of them, theres a whole TRP world outside of the subreddit, and most valuable men vett before they let you into it.

                To asnwer your question, there are posers, many of them in fact. Thing is, until you 'made it' it's hard to tell them apart. Once you do, it stands out like a sore thumb, and you start to see the guys who are worth a damn, and start to converse with them more.

                And as for free time, I find it impossible to be able to fill up 100% of my day with productivity. Work and life offer enough spare moments in between things that I can fill with an activity. In this case, writing about my passions aka Masculinity.

                And my goal has never been to be the alpha male. The sigma is always more inviting to me. I've been largely nomadic all my life anyways, I wouldn't know any different

                And fitness wise, I beat many 20 year olds

                [–]cranium123_ 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                Physique/Fitness: I can squat 120kg, DL 150kg but I don't look like I lift. I had a T test recently, and I hope to not have bad news on this one. Although, my whole being screams low-T after analyzing according to scientific studies. I put in lots of effort with too little back.

                Finance/Business: I will get a good degree but despite being top 5% in my class with internships, I barely get any callbacks. So, a bit worried on this front.

                Social: Absolutely abysmal. I have depression accumulated from lots of sources: lack of relationship success, shitty childhood and being highly introverted. However, it is mostly my fault because I am a boring male.

                Girls: No success. Zero matches on Tinder. Zero dates IRL. 10 rejections in a row right now. It's mostly about my face and frame. As I said, low-T features, smallish frame. Barely any experience with women having been treated like garbage by them in high school. Studied in three countries with same treatment in each of one. I am avg height, according to others, avg looks. I am really stressed about this because I am used to having my life in control. This I have little control over.

                Overall, I am worried about my career prospects, I get rejected with no successes, which means looks are the issue. Not too happy about social life. A life of low value male. Seems like being born with bad genetics is a crime nowadays.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I appreciate the honesty, brother. I'm rooting for you to make the changes and turn it all around.

                [–]Fylingdale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Stop feeling like a victim. The more you feel sorry for yourself the more you perpetuate those bad vibes.

                Go on a road trip, on your own, to some kind of cool destination or to do some fun activity you like. Talk to people throughout - not just women. Just engage in the world. But also enjoy your own company.

                After a few days of feeling out of place, you'll learn to live with yourself. You'll be content with who you are and will be full of ideas for when you return. Take control of your own reality and make changes. Fight mediocrity and become the best version of yourself.

                [–]minoc_uo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                Im not doing great, but I am doing better since finding trp about 2 years ago. I used to never laid, now i do sometimes, but I've slightly improved in other areas as well. Honestly i just play too much pc games.

                [–]Ganaria_Gente 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Nothing wrong with games as long as it's moderated.

                Excess is the problem

                [–]minoc_uo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Excess IS the problem.

                [–]dRePe_Thill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Irrelevant post, everyone's ego-investment can justify them crushing it. Many people have different purposes as well as being at different stages at life, don't worry about the keyboard warriors

                [–]ReddJive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Money, sex, fame? Each man's path is different. that is irrelevant. What is important is if that man is owning his shit, dominating his life and achieving his goals - whatever they may be.

                Far too often I read posts about how ripped a guy is, how much money he makes, he's everyone's best friend....damn it people like him!

                Then he goes on about the women in his life. He still misses the point. He hasn't internalized anything.

                Suck less. Do better.

                [–]speed3_freak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I'm not subbed to theredpill anymore because its shitposts and anger. I use trp in my life to make the relationships I have better. I'm too old to go clubbing and try to ons a bunch of women, but when I do get one I know I am able to keep them as long as I like.
                If I posted a field report then it would probably be too boring to read. I don't do anything stupid crazy, but I don't have a problem striking up a conversation in a grocery store and getting a number. Only difference is that I usually wind up dating them for a few months and then we split when they realize I was being honest about not wanting a serious relationship.

                [–]Karacmore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I can't say I'm "crushing it", but I've grown in the past year since I discovered TRP. Working out and just getting a whole new perspective on things has changed my life in different ways. I don't have a moutain of girls at my doorstep and believe me I don't have a six pack either but I've made vast improvements.

                Tbh I'm happy with it all. I have no true desrie to persue women or anything in that regaurd atm.

                Right now I'm on my last semister of school, saving money, and have all the free time in the world. To me thats crushing it.

                [–]asktrpthrow123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Similar to MattyAnon, I don't know about others but I'll give my response. I think I'm still a bit of a keyboard red piller, but I'm actively working on improving.

                • Physique/Fitness: I've been lifting on and off for 7-8 years. Often life gets in the way, and I stop for months on time and lose a lot of progress. I fluctuate between an average physique to fit. I've been getting towards being very fit again

                • Finance: I'm easily top 5% in terms of money in my city for my age. Could use my spare time to get even higher by doing freelance but I'm content as a software Engineer working for a very large company. Pretty happy in this department, and have zero complaints.

                • Social: It's weird here, I have 3ish group of friends I kind of rotate in. While this is good because I'm always changing it up, I wish I had a more tight-knit group that did activities together every weekend or something. Most of my friends live busy lives so they can't hang out often. I also think I need major improvement in social skills.

                • Girls: Pretty shitty. I don't get much even online, but when I get a date, I can usually kill it.

                In terms of girls, social skills, and general life experiences, I think I'm lagging very hard for a 26 year old. I'm working on a general plan to backpack across Europe and South-east Asia (maybe do a workaway) starting this summer for 6 months to a year where literally my main focus will be learning how to socialize better and improve my game and get laid. I will be sacrificing some points from my career bucket to do this, but I am 100% confident in my ability to find another job when I return, and if not, do freelance gigs. But I think it's absolutely necessary for me to chase life experiences instead of cash nowadays.

                [–]Fylingdale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Travel is absolutely the best way of revealing to you how small your mental world is when stuck behind a desk and revealing to you who you really are. Have a great time!

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

                mixed bag.

                The more I know people, the more I realize that the people like the character /u/VasiliyZaitzev portrays are pretty rare in real life .

                But you know that it doesn't matter. What matters is having your own goals, achieving them, and moving on to more goals.

                If you are here looking to see if this is a shit show or not... let me save you some time :

                Yes, yes it is. Nothing to see.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                Ah, your 'high beta' theory. Probably why its best to never meet ones heros.

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                best to never meet ones heros.

                moved past it. no hero's, just guys I wouldn't mind having a beer with and will PM if in town

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                I think I'm still idolizing frenchie somewhat.

                So far, he's the only guy here who had his unicorn, and didn't have 'just his turn'

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                So far, he's the only guy here who had his unicorn, and didn't have 'just his turn'

                I LIKE the guy. But, even he doesn't KNOW that this was the case. He came here with deadwife goggles. Almost nothing beats that for alpha widowing a man. She isn't even the one that got away...

                point being, there is weakness anywhere, and he is the only natural at mrp...

                [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                The more I know people, the more I realize that the people like the character /u/VasiliyZaitzev portrays are pretty rare in real life.

                Well, as a note for the general readership, on the one hand, I'm very real. On the other hand, one may find fewer differences between me and themselves than they might think.

                "Power is something you take."

                -From "The Sayings of Chairman Zaitzev"

                First, the fundamental difference between me and other people in CorporateLand is that I decided, 10+ years ago, that I wasn't going into the office anymore, and I made it stick. There are sales guy who can live like that -- indeed, if a sales guy is spending too much time at the office, then something is very wrong -- but unlike sales guys, I don't have to put up numbers, I just have to keep my deal team happy, as well as some other duties. [Guys interested in how I do what I do would do well to read Stanley Bing's "How To Relax Without Getting the Axe". Actually Bing's "What Would Machiavelli Do?" is also pure gold.]

                Second, I made myself "exceptional" in that I front my own band. You don't even have to be "famous" at all. Girls even get a whiff of that, and a waterfall of pussy awaits. I basically did it by accident. I put all the work in, musically, on my instruments, and I was the "2nd voice" in the band. After our lead singer moved away, and we auditioned 8 guys and nobody worked out, the remaining guys in my band basically told me "You're the singer, now." I also keep relatively fit (although I am not a ripped 20 year old) and I play co-rec sports, which puts me around young, fit women. Coincidentally, Uncle Vasya likes to make the fuck-sex with young, fit women.

                There are some other factors, of course, such as that I basically piss out a quart of confidence when I get up in the morning, I learned How To Talk To Girls long ago, I learned (in my post 35+ years) how to identify young women who prefer older men, etc.

                Anyway, guys are welcome to believe or not believe, but I think that my track record bears up that I know what I'm talking about.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                It wasn't a shot at you. It was the point that Everyone has a weakness. And I take Everything with grain of salt.

                [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                It wasn't a shot at you.

                It could be read a couple of different ways, which is why I started off with "Well, as a note for the general readership..." rather than something aggressive.

                My posts and replies here are intended to impart knowledge, and this was no different. So I took that reply as an opportunity to outline "how I did it" and how younger guys can, too.

                Believe me, if I was mad at you, you'd know. /grin

                Everyone has a weakness. And I take Everything with grain of salt.

                Young guys -- and this is a general note -- often have FOMO where they think "I wonder what the 'cool kids' are doing right now" and perhaps imagine Chad being fed grapes by a couple of cheerleaders or something. The fact is, everyone has their own set of problems, and, with rare exception, has their own version of grunt work to do. I did not, I assure you, wake up between two VS angels this morning. I did spend this past weekend frolicking with a lovely, naked 21 y.o. and have a 22 y.o. lined up this weekend, but today? Today will be some very unsexy deals. I just got off the phone with a guy who, despite being a margin guy doesn't want to take "yes" for an answer, even though by giving him a "yes" I have paved the way for him to make 6 figures on a deal. I'm giving him a one-off and he's trying to push back on me.

                Him: "So you're telling me..."

                Me: "I'm trying to make this deal happen. If you want to argue about it, I can reconsider, if you'd like. Before I do, perhaps you should take 'yes' for an answer...."

                Him: "But...[more arguing]"

                Me: "Shut up and take the money, Stephen. Now 'go, and sin no more.'..."

                Joy....

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Believe me, if I was mad at you, you'd know. /grin

                you sound just like me. Almost bratva

                Oh, nice book suggestions by the way. Don't do sales but I think I can still apply this to my field.

                [–]hatefulreason 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                one thing i learned here.... 20%

                [–]brooklynisburnin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I'm crushing it in life compared to three years ago, am I a fucking pimp? No, but my life has improved drastically, lots of my goals have been achieved and the bar is set higher than ever.

                Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of keyboard jockeys in here, but personally, since I swallowed the pill, the more successful I become, the less attention I pay to TRP, I used to browse endlessly, these days I chip in every now and then when I'm bored at work.

                [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I am absolutely-fucking-killing it. No joke.

                [–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I wouldn't say I'm crushing it but since TRP I've

                Dropped 40 pounds, not ripped at the moment but have a good transformation going

                Left a dying LTR I was afraid the leave

                Excelled in my career

                Not orbiting women anymore

                Sleeping around quite a bit

                Travelling whenever I feel like it

                Say no like it's nothing now

                [–]Kalidane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                No, no, no.

                Think of this place as college.

                Some haven't been but may in future.

                Some are at college now.

                Some have graduated and are living a successful RP life.

                Some are repeating papers and others drop out.

                The student body changes over time, with some failures and many successes. Graduates are not on campus. Except those doing post graduate study and advising undergrads.

                [–]AvengerSentinel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Are most people just keyboard red pillers? Are the actual red pill guys too busy actually crushing it in real life to waste their time on here?

                Nahh, not at all. There are several multimillionaires here that I've learned a tremendous amount from.

                [–]fakefalse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                There's an expression: once you lift, forever shall you be small.

                I'd say, that once you remove that BP veil and see your true potential, you'll forever strive to do more and become more.

                [–]SeamusAwl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                I guess it depends on your perspective. If I look at where I was pre-RP to where I am now 3 months later, I would say I have made major improvements to my life in many areas. To illustrate what I am saying is lets take hypothetical 2 individuals who both swallowed the red pill 6 months ago.

                Man A started his journey as a never been kissed 27 year old virgin living in his parents basement. 6 months later he has moved into his own apartment, his gamer bod has morphed something close to a beach bod, he has dated around 20 women and slept with 2 of them. One of those women he has had recurring sex. Man A believes that he is starting to crush it.

                Man B would look on Man A and think he is just an AFC. You see Man B is 32, has an established career with a 6 figure salary. His n count is in the low teens and he had a recent 8 year LTR (30F) shatter his very soul. He gave her everything and one day came home to surprise her. Found her with the 19 year old Chad down the street and his friend. His little princess who never did more than missionary or doggy and never gave oral or anal, was in the middle of doing just that with 2 guys. He started lifting and seeing women for what they really are. 6 months later he has multiple plates, they know they are plates and have no issue with sharing him (sometimes simultaneously). He also closed his first million dollar deal. He believes he is crushing it.

                [–]smirk_addict -1 points0 points  (3 children)

                I liked /u/MattyAnon format.

                Fitness: I'm in pretty good shape. It's probably my best asset. I always dress nice and make sure my clothes show my physique. I always turn heads when I walk into a room.

                Finance: Just getting by. I lost a great job and an opportunity to make 6 figures a while back. Poor life decisions. I'm still getting back on my feet but its going to be a loooong road. It's not something I dwell on. It's just a task to be completed.

                Social: I have a lot of great friends and people i'm close to. It's one of the positives I can say about living in this small town.

                Girls: Abysmal. Online dating is a waste of time. I don't drink and not really into bars and clubs(but i'm thinking to explore this option anyway), my social circles aren't really full of single attractive women. That leaves me with cold approaches and daygame. I'm black and i live in a small rural town in the south. You can imagine some of my challenges. Cold approaching itself already has it's own challenges. And I have to be careful as to not get a reputation as that creepy guy always hitting on women. Still I strive on. Besides my mall and a few coffee shops there aren't that many places to approach women. And the attractive women know they don't have much competition so most of them have the shittiest attitudes. Everyone(guy friends and unattractive women)thinks i'm crushing because i'm fit and always well dressed. I just need to move but that's not happening anytime soon.

                [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Can you make trips to bigger cities where you're more anonymous and people are more used to black guys?

                [–]smirk_addict 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                The closest city is about an hour and 15 away. It's something i've considered. I just work a lot and i'd have to make a day of it. As for being used to black guys? Well I don't know. But day game is a numbers game. And there would be much more attractive women to approach.

                Small towns aren't all bad. I just need to go somewhere where I have a higher SMV and perhaps lower obesity rates.. I have a buddy, a black bodybuilder, that moved for a job to some nowhere town in Oregon with maybe 6,000 people. He has no game. He is killing in that town.

                [–]Eldudearino89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                /u/smirk_addict Where do you live? I'm in Northeast TN. Granted the "South" is large. Haha I'm not black just normal white guy but meeting new people is always good.

                [–]LaRedPill -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                My normal life wasn't so bad before TRP, nor my sex life, but TRP changed everything since now I have more control, get to move less for more sex, better girls, etc.