Okay, you're a random on the internet, please be totally honest. Please, if you are in a happy healthy relationship: I've seen A LOT of married men and women sleeping on their partner "it just happened" "I was drunk" blah blah. They never tell him, or her. So many horror stories. Anyways, I'm scarred now, traumatized, seriously, it's so bad.
So, like, get this. You see "the man or woman of your dreams" out there and decide to marry: the chance of this person over SOOOOOOO many years... in a marriage it's like what, 25+ YEARS together or more, them NOT cheating on you is so low, or having and accidentally being turned on by SOMEONE at some point and then unconsciously acting on those feelings in a moment of temptation and weakness or being drunk or being in the devil's den or whatever, with another attractive human being the chance is SO HIGH that they will like most definitely cheat on you at some point in the future.
So, before I see any woman now, I just think, "What's the point, they're just going to cheat anyways. Why even bother?" I am leaning towards MGTOW, what other reason do I have? Put yourself in my shoes, what would you think?
I even get angry now, and feel super bad for these "moms" pushing around baby strollers and stuff and feel bad for the poor deluded sap sitting back home aka "the husband". I've seen too much. Married men cheating. Housewives cheating. I even see and read so many articles like this on a daily basis from men with LOADS of experience with SOOOOOOOOO many women across multiple cultures:
"Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi doesn’t change in the slightest if she single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I fuck her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won’t feel guilty when I fuck her because now it’s “my fault.” Sometimes she hides it from me until after I’ve fucked her, then she admits it. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been laying next to some chick, all sweaty cause I just finished busting a nut all over her face or in her mouth or on her back, and suddenly her phone rings and she’s on the phone with her man, giving him some bullshit story. This is with NO GUILT WHATSOEVER!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you ever laid eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a HAT. The one thing that most men value most – loyalty – is just not there with women. Women don’t think in terms of honor, women don’t say “word is bond;” women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, period. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (1) the way she feels and (2) learning more about her own inner self and having emotional realizations. That’s why women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc."
So, if in your honest experience, and mine is vast and wide, I've just seen a pattern with most women:
They A) Marry the boring nice stable guy, and B) Fuck the fun guy behind his back, unconsciously intentionally or otherwise. She's going to get hit up by some dude, at some point. And there's always another more attractive mate around the corner, life fact.
In ALLLLLL Those years you're together, how can there not be a moment where she slips up? She's human. So is the guy. There's not NOT going to be a fight, a time you were tired after work and cranky, neglected your partner, or said something mean for a split second, maybe was too tired to have sex and fell asleep when she was horny and you weren't or vice versa etc, and new facebook message comes in from that cute guy at work. They can rationalize it and go get it in a second. "Picking up something at the store, be home in 20min." Create fake fights to feel good about herself and her actions "because you weren't there for her" or whatever other excuse literally anyone can use. And then "rightfully" they go cheat, because X Y Z. It's just bound to happen at some point, there are SO MANY attractive people out there. A "deal under the table" during a boring obligatory marriage contract that after so many years things will probably get stale and boring and monotonous and she will want something different, like that guy at work with the cute butt. (Same goes for guys..... that cute chick at work who smells a little differently, has that adorable laugh, etc.)
So, many dudes who have experienced many women say similar things like: Nice guys are like salads, everyone knows they're good for them, but they don't like them. Bad boys are like pizza, they know it's bad for them, but they want it and often "behind his back" eat it and go get it. I've been literally both guys, I've had multiple women across multiple times in my life, with their husband (an honest working, awesome guy, sacrificing his health and wealth to put a roof over her head) literally try to put her hand down my pants as her husband and child are in the next freaking room.
I've had women pushing strollers give me the "I want you now" eyes on the street when I'm out jogging in my neighborhood. Feel bad for the poor husband sitting back home trusting her? Giving up his life and time for her, essentially?
I've seen other men commit suicide to their cheating wives, for years behind their backs when they finally found out, she was using Tinder inviting over guys while he was out working all day. It's just so easy. What security do any of us have, there's ALWAYS another fresh attractive mate out there. I've seen other men run SCREAMING out of their houses, shit thrown all over the lawn, hysterical, looking like they're about to throw up. The woman crying trying to hold on to him saying sorry.
I could go on and on. My whole life. Overwhelming evidence. You get it. I have so many things like this showing me the nature of the chaos of human sexuality that have happened to me in my lifetime up to this point. I'm over "the game" this sh!t seems rigged. Why date? Why approach? They're just MOST LIKELY going to cheat, so why bother?
The final kicker, sharing more of my life experience here, and THANK YOU FOR THE HELP IF YOU'VE EXPERIENCED SOMETHING DIFFERENT: My ex-gf I lived with for 2 years, sweet girl, turns out she was cheating on me behind my back with two dudes. TWO. And get this. I found out because a guy told me, his friend, his friends brother, AND her family member called me up heartbroken and felt bad for me and told me. I came home and asked her about it. SHOCKED. She pretended to not know. Not one iota of her revealed the slightest twitch in revealing she did this at all. Like, I knew for an absolute fact she did, and it was like her DNA, her instinct, I couldn't detect the slightest trace of it in her bodylanguage, vocal tonality, eye contact, all of it, her for sure lies. Three sources all confirmed, different times. What is up with this infidelity thing, right?
THAT WAS SO SHOCKING, I literally do not trust women now. Can you blame me? It's like they're wired to cheat or something: to get the best hottest alpha sperm cells for their babies, and then make the betas unknowingly raise the kid or provide for them when they get depserate in old ahe and settle for the peasants, while ALWAYS secretly wanting to fuck the King. Hypergamy 101. That was so spooky seeing it real time happen. I couldn't detect the slightest trace that she cheated. It was like she was evolutionarily literally wired to do it. Later, like WAY later, she finally admitted she did in a drunken fight. So 100% she did. I could not detect it, at all. KAY.I've had precisely 4 women do the following, their boyfriends were away in college, one tugged me up into her bed and we played and sh!t when I was crashing in her room on her floor, another came over "for homework" and tried seducing me and gave me a BJ on my bed, I could go on and on. This just seems, in my mind, to be natural male-female behavior. Cheating. Frequently.
But I'll never forget my-ex that showed me how evolutionarily skilled women seem to be at lying. Again, you feel me? I COULD NOT DETECT it in her bodylanguage, tone of voice, anything. It was so scary. I don't know if men posses this same ability, so it's each sex, I'm NOT sexist, they both cheat, I am just sharing my experiences. My point is:
So, rightfully so, NOW, I am no longer naive boy with a Disneyland wish in his heart, I see a woman, I immediately think "She's just going to cheat, anyway, why even bother?" I then get all MGTOW. I guess girls look at me like a jerk or something and give me this vibe like I don't want to nor am willing to give them the time of day, but seriously, what do you expect me to think, feel or act, after all I've experienced in my life? I mean after ALL THAT, what else am I supposed to think? If this is an unhealthy mindset, it's based in reality, so what's a healthy one, also based in reality? Why wouldn't I be the tiniest bit suspicious of any woman now? Feeling sorry for guys out on dates opening car doors and sh!t? There's always another attractive partner around the corner, how could either sex NOT face extreme temptation, break down willpower, and cheat at some point? Is this jealousy? Am I too jealous or possessive? What else am I supposed to do, act, think, or behave like? Just let her go and fuck who she wants and whatever whenever, because that's life? Move on and be happy? Single, forever now, probably, because I feel like what dumbass (evidence apparent and obvious) dates long term and marries, am I right?
Like throwing a steak in a dog pen expecting the dog not to salivate for 30 years+. Uhuh. See my point? "Trust" and expecting her to not cheat: It feels like stupidity, ignorance, naivety and blindness, honestly.
THANK YOU! I hope I could open my heart again. But the odds and chances of infidelity are ridiculously heart-pounding fucking high. This world....... I've seen too much.
TL;DR: I am scarred. I've seen SO MUCH cheating happen, on both sides: married women throwing themselves at me, friends lives destroyed, suicidal husbands finding out, etc. I literally react in my body and get angry now before I see any woman, anywhere, at any time. I can't trust them (evidence above) I literally do not want to approach and think the words "She's just going to cheat on you anyways, so why bother?" On a long enough timeline, this is probably definitely going to happen at some point with a more attractive mate with any relationship, right? You don't possess anyone, so is this jealousy? How else can I think about this? Or what do I do? There are ALWAYS healthier, smarter, younger, faster, sexier, stronger mates out there - that your partner WILL be sexually attracted to, and you as well, so WTF? Why does anyone even approach and how can any dude marry a woman? Are they just clueless? I see guys out on dates and almost want to laugh, it's so sad, again, are they just clueless? I don't get what other life options I have, be single "informed" and alone forever, strictly friends with people, not get involved because of the overwhelming odds of them just cheating on you at some point over a long enough timeline?