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What triggered your Red Pill journey? (self.asktrp)

submitted by Frigzy

I personally got here through struggles with gaming addiction and the resolve to pick my life back up. The goal was to become the type of man that I would be proud of. I am still walking down the path, but I have covered quite some distance since then.

It seems to me that many of us got started with their personal development due to a significant amount of discomfort in their lives.

This made me wonder, what was it for you? Or did you get here by chance?


[–]alpha_n3rd[🍰] 38 points39 points  (7 children)

The day I changed was when my wife told me that she regretted marrying me. That shattered my world-view. I KNEW I was a good catch, therefore she HAD to be crazy. And I came to realize that she WAS fucking nuts because one day she's telling me how great I am the next it's "I regret marrying you". I also realized that her behavior was classical emotional abuse and manipulation. Hindsight suddenly goes 20/20.

I went nuclear on her, told her to shape up or ship out. She did, for a while.

Then things got bad again and I was ready to divorce, then I found TRP, things have been generally on an upward trajectory ever since (1.5 years now). Not always smooth sailing but I guess it never will be; emotional roller coaster. AWALT.

I shouldn't have LTR-ed her, but water under the bridge at this point, we have kids so I'm sticking it out for their sake, at least until they're older.

[–]Shootlawd 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Any examples of how you were able to unwind things? And congrats.

[–]alpha_n3rd[🍰] 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I did the shit in the sidebar.

Fundamentally I'm lifting and raising my already above average SMV and she's gotten fat and old and crazy and her SMV is tanking fast and deep down inside I think she realizes it.

The things that have helped me the most are

  • Shut the fuck up; just shut the fuck up; don't go for the bait
  • Stoic (hold frame) whenever she flips out
  • Absence; when I don't enjoy spending time with her, I don't.
  • Outcome independence; whenever she questions our future together I point to the door and calmly tell her that she's free to go whenever.
  • Agree & Amplify shit tests
  • Lifting
  • reading lots of TRP shit

Congrats might be premature. I honestly can't say that I won't eventually drive her away. I am pretty sick of her shit but she might not change and in the long run I'm going to get sicker and sicker and sicker.

[–]2PragmaticRedTruth 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Not to be a pessimistic fuck... but, she will never change. You either accept this, get better at game, game becomes easier with meditation and internalization of the world that surrounds you, or, on the flip side, you cut your loses and split.

Don't depend on anyone to change, depend on you to get better at navigating your environment.

[–]forgetful_storytellr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NIMBLY NAVIGATE

[–]alpha_n3rd[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean she HAS changed in response by my own changes I just don't know how much mileage I can get out of that.

she needs more dread.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Stories like this are what have officially put me off marriage forever.

[–]RedPill_CS 31 points32 points  (14 children)

I got here some time ago after the SJWs kept bitching about "the red pill" over and over in other subs, when the whole Gamergate stuff happened. At first i dismissed it like the omega neckbeard i was.

However after a highly traumatizing experience, i started reading Art of Manliness. That led me to forums like SoSuave and finally i got back to TRP. It was an extremely bitter pill to swallow and many times i just had to close the post i was reading because i couldn't bear the words, but something inside me kept me coming back, somehow i knew this was the truth. The thing with TRP is that there is no going back. You can't just go back to being a beta (who would, anyway?).

The wisdom i've found here is priceless, and i want to thank all of you for the time you take writing guides and giving advice at no cost.

[–]thor_away92 5 points6 points  (10 children)

I've noticed this too. I don't think I could ever "want love and companionship and a strong connection" blah blah. I see clearly now and I can't unsee. It's bittersweet that's for sure.

[–]RedPill_CS 6 points7 points  (9 children)

I think that's the hardest part of The Pill, you know. Accepting the fact that women can't love us the same way we love them, and that the path we walk is a lonely one most of the time.

[–]Kenny_Twenty 1 point2 points  (6 children)

See, I don't get this. What do you mean 'the way we love them'?

[–]RedPill_CS 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Women don't love YOU. They don't need YOU. They need a guy like you, you just managed to give her the tingles and play the game well. The moment that's gone she will swing to a higher SMV guy because "she wasn't feeling it anymore".

I'm an intermediate RP student so take what i say with a grain of salt, but i recall reading this in some posts about dealing with anger phase.

[–]Kenny_Twenty 0 points1 point  (4 children)

That's not what I asked. You say they can't love us the way 'we' love them. How do 'we' love them?

[–]Gynocentric 3 points4 points  (3 children)

We love their qualities; their femininity, how good a mother they are, how beautiful they are, how they move, how they speak, how they look. We love THEM.

They "love" what we can provide to them. If they feel another man can give them more or better (as they perceive it), they move on.

[–]Kenny_Twenty -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

That's the most beta shit I've ever heard and you should be ashamed of yourself.

That's how you feel? I find that abhorrent.

[–]Gynocentric 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Care factor: zero.

[–]Kenny_Twenty -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you say so.

[–]axonMagnus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

man it hurts real bad , especially when tha false message has been feed to me for all my 21 years :( ,everytime i think about how the lies are shoved down our throat causing a disonance :( ,

sometime i truely feel like life really is no worth it at all , almost everything we are taught especially the most important things are always lies or someone making a burk off you :(

[–]Gogo4u 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The truth shall set you free

[–]trancedj[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Come back when you can and help lift other brothers out of the abyss. TRP saved my sorry ass as well.

[–]askerman97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

GamerGate showed a lot of people the true nature of SJW's.

[–]ampwyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also saw the SJWs complaining and figured the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (12 children)

Getting fucked over by a woman - same as 99% of people here

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (7 children)

i would say its 50/50 getting fucked over and not getting fucked at all.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Lol - you're probably right !

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Essentially that's just two different ways of getting fucked over by women.

Edit: overall it's the dude's fault. What I'm talking about though is naive guys who think they'll get laid if they're nice. They always feel fucked over and in a lot of cases some really cold shit happens.

[–]TheRedStoic 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Not getting fucked at all isn't being fucked over by women.

Own your shit.

Funny comment though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just fucking around. You're completely right. Although having an entire sex reject you can feel like being fucked over, especially to the 'nice guys'.

"Own your shit" is the solution though.

[–]ShounenEgo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not getting fucked at all isn't being fucked over by women.

Yes it is because all the Disney "don't you worry, you're a nice guy and eventually you'll get the best girl" crap are words that came from basically every girl that nice guy asked, thinking they will give him the right advice. Add that his social circle that basically comprised mostly by boys who shared the same "we will never get laid" mentality and boom!

I learned about the "own your shit" from TRP. I was THAT bad.

[–]94redstealth -1 points0 points  (1 child)

100% by getting fucked over after not getting fucked

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    [–]Shaigan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    That's pretty harsh

    [–]thor133 18 points19 points  (0 children)

    One day I found TRP through an askreddit rant about TRP, and realized that what was on here was disturbingly truthful. I looked at my life and how I hadn't kissed a girl in over a year and it really got to me.

    [–]thiasus 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    I got here super fucking early when there were about 100 subscribers. There was too little content and it looked too similar to PUA/self improvement stuff for me to care.

    I came back when it started getting notoriety among the SJW subs and found that the community had grown and there was more interesting content. I started posting under my alt at the time, got invited to /alreadyred when it was still limited, good shit.

    Then real life kind of toom over, I started my own business and had time for nothing. That ended about a year ago so here I am.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I've always wondered...what year did this sub start?

    [–]DaftOdyssey 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    I remember my LTR saying how she is the one that wears the pants on everything. So that got me to realize that I'm not here to be some bitch's bitch. I started looking on Google how to be leader/more aggressive in the relationship and through an article it linked me to r/theredpill talking about the book No More Mr.Niceguy. It was a great eye opener when I saw my mistake of living the "Happy wife, happy life" kind of thing. I'm so glad I found that article because I'm happier as ever and I got rid of my depression I had since I was 8.

    [–]Gawernator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That's awesome!

    [–]hrm0894 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    Gf broke up with me many years ago, and I've thought about her every single day. Found TRP and made sense of why she broke up with me: I was a whipped beta bitch.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    😢

    [–]DarkisKnight 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Stuck my dick in crazy and it did not end well. Realized she treated me exactly how my Mom did growing up. Got depressed, found TRP shortly thereafter.

    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

    Was a computer nerd working in a computer store. Crazy nerd eater chick starts chasing me until we start fucking. Lost my virginity. After a month or two I catch feels and she bails on me. I thought I was too distant and noncommittal so I go hard BP chasing after her. Buying Teddy bears and cocoa, being a complete faggot. Handing her my balls free of charge. She push pulls me for a solid 6 months and by the end I look like shit and she's looking better than ever. Almost like she was sapping me of strength.

    Finally I met a customer at the computer store, a cute Scottish girl who seemed to like me. She fucked me on the first night. red flag She would get a phone call and rush out every time we finished fucking. huge red flag After a month or so she pulled me to the side and dropped her fake Scottish accent. Fucking red alert and admitted that she was both in a relationship already, and was currently a stripper. ... At the time I was such a pussy that I continued to ignore red flags, ended up dating her, things got really out of hand. I kept thinking that I could reason with her, that as long as she was attracted to me that I wouldn't get shit on. I was shit on pretty hard and it was clearly my fault.

    I needed TRP. I've always had an easy time being masculine and/or attractive, but I was taught bullshit about women that led me down dead end roads.

    [–]TRPTosser 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Dude. Wow.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    Edit: This reply got really long. It was theraputic for me to write though. Read it or not. There's some level 99 insanity in here though. Hard to believe that I actually let my life get like this.

    Oh, believe me it gets worse. I am the poster child of what can happen when you ignore red flags and take it to absurdity.

    I'll throw in a couple of bonus stories with chick #2.

    She was not only a stripper, but a pagan nudist. I had nothing against this lifestyle so I went along with it and tried it out. Maybe partially to spite my religious parents for raising me so BP. The nudist camp was all mediocre looking chicks, and tons of dudes of all different rank trying to tap it. She was one of three attractive women there.

    She cheated on me when I was too "alpha" in the beginning and hadn't committed to her nor defined the relationship. She immidiately swore loyalty to me and said that she's never had a meaningful relationship and that she would love to with me because she's never felt that way for anyone but me.

    She cheated on me after dating for a year when I had gotten slightly chubby while working construction for up to 10-12 hours a day. One stretch of 3 weeks of working every day, no weekends. She fucked a gym bro for his body.

    This was what broke the camel's back. Although her lifestyle was difficult to live with, it wasn't anything I found morally wrong and I was trying to be 'better' than the situation. When she cheated even though things were going well other than that I was busy and slightly out of shape... I just felt so destroyed. I was working so hard. I would kiss her every morning before I left. We had a silly language and goofy inside jokes. We had sex at least a couple of times a week. She bought me awesome gifts. She was very understanding and we had an extremely deep connection... but she lied and couldn't stay loyal even though the whole time any time things got weird I told her that I would rather have an open relationship than have lies or baggage, and I always wanted the truth.

    We split. I grabbed my shit. I moved out. She moved. We stayed in contact. I kept fucking her. She said she still loved me. She would do things to show it. She literally wrote me into her will as the love of her life and left stuff to me. (her family has a history of breast cancer so she did it just in case anything happened.)

    Then... after a few months of lifting and doing everything in my power to make myself a badass with or without her... but still in the back of my mind hoping to 'win' to be better than the situation and have her want me again... she found a tall ripped tattooed marine with a massive penis. So after telling me for months that she wants me and that she is Polyamorous, she gives me the call and tells me that she's 'seeing' Mr. Marine and that she can't see me anymore... She thought she was Poly, and despite knowing better I allowed myself to try it out. She was of course, hypergamous. No woman is polyamorous once she finds a Chad. Polyamory is just a way for her to go Chad shopping. It took this for me to finally get her out of my warped, beta mind. It's like the universe said to me, "dude... fucking stop it with this shit. Go live your life. You know TRP is right and you need to stop going against it to 'test' or 'experiment' if it's real. That's just an excuse and you have several lifetimes worth of fucked up bullshit to prove it.

    Edit: Conversation that defined my relationship:

    Her: ... well ya the customers sometimes slip away to put on a condom before a lapdance.

    Me: What the fuck for?

    Her: It's polite. In case they cum from the dance.

    That's how I found out that her job involved making other dudes cum on a daily basis. Hundreds of other guys, and it was a complete non issue to her. Like I was crazy that it mattered to me.

    You have no idea how cucked I felt all at once. It was framed like, 'she comes home to me because I'm the best. I fuck the shit out of her and she loves it.' This was cool to me and the only reason I was ok with the stripping thing. Then this bombshell fell.

    This relationship had great moments, awesome sex every single time. She was very intelligent, and we had a great connection, and she was very supportive... but she was just fucked up and a liar.

    I still feel ashamed that I put up with so much under the guise of 'growing' and 'overcoming hurdles'. So much stress, work, anxiety, fear, feelings of inadequacy, etc. and all with a crescendo of HER finally telling ME off of all things.

    [–]Ximplex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    holy fuck.

    I'm glad you left all that behind

    [–]WhyNotJustEnjoyLife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Well fuck me man .... Fuck glad that's over though we all been there I guess.

    [–]axonMagnus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    damn son , dayum

    [–]muddynips 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Trying to make sense of divorce-rape.

    [–]SlothOnRoids 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Never had a lot of trouble with women, even lost my virginity at 13, just due to my good looks I got by, but when I reached highschool I noticed all the popular, athletic kids, rich kids, really charismatic guys got all the girls that I wanted to fuck.

    It was mostly a curiosity thing, I wanted to know why people behaved the way they do, and to me it's just fascinating, I figured if I read and observed enough I could get better with women and it did. I picked up "The Game" by Neil Strauss and was pretty awestruck that this genetically disadvantaged guy went and changed his whole life in order to seduce women and it was like increasing a skill in a video game.

    I've been hooked ever since, even though currently I'm in a LTR with a really sexy chick and don't plan on breaking up anytime soon, still a lot of interesting things on this sub.

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    [–]AN94Fan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    For some reason there's a feel of relief when you blame your problems in life on yourself and not other people or things.

    [–]The-Ban-Hammer 11 points12 points  (9 children)

    I found TRP completely by accident. While I almost feel like I'm too old for TRP, the info here helps balance out the game.

    For instance, a woman sees no problem with dating two guys for two different reasons.

    1) Guy #1 is the "date" guy. He takes her out to a nice meal or something else. Then she "has to go home and get some sleep because of work in the morning." Every time.

    2) Guy #2 is where she is going after the date with guy #1 ends. This is the guy she fucks.

    Women will say: Well, just because guy #1 buys her food does not entitle him to sex. That part is true.

    BUT, they will also say: But if guy #1 is going to keep paying for expensive meals because he thinks he might get some, why should I stop him.

    They'll shame him for wanting sex, but use him for his money because they know he'll spend it wanting it. They see no problem with using him and leading him to believe that it might become something more.

    Around 20 years ago, I learned very simply... if you want to complain to me about some other guy, you can complain all you want AFTER you swallowed my cum. Otherwise, your mouth should only be working on me.

    Might not be "red pill" in the conventional sense, but it's when I learned to get what I want first.

    [–]mrpCamper 2 points3 points  (6 children)

    Women will say: Well, just because guy #1 buys her food does not entitle him to sex. That part is true.

    Yes, but having sex with guy#2 should disentitle you from food from guy #1. amIright?

    [–]The-Ban-Hammer 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Well, she shouldn't feel entitled to anything from guy #1, but she does. She'll judge and shame him to make sure he doesn't feel entitled to sex while simultaneously feeling like she's entitled to anything he offers. Adding insult to injury, she'll usually say, "Well, it's his fault if he doesn't realize he won't get anywhere and wants to keep paying for stuff."

    In short, women think they are entitled to everything while men are entitled to nothing "because patriarchy."

    [–]mrpCamper 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Totally agree. I was just saying "in our pre RP world."

    [–]The-Ban-Hammer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Absolutely. The guys who know this stuff in their 20s have it made. Some of us took a bit longer but, all that matters is, we get there! :)

    [–]Frigzy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I am so grateful for having the internet at such a young age (now 26), yet being spared from the Youtube babysit parenting that is possible nowadays.

    Sure, it got me hooked on online gaming for years, but it also got me in touch with invaluable life lessons and essential male knowledge. I'd gladly make that trade any day.

    [–]Kenny_Twenty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well, she shouldn't feel entitled to anything from guy #1, but she does.

    Huh? Why are you judging how people feel? Why shouldn't she feel that way? Who gives a fuck what she feels. You can only control yourself so don't let yourself become that kind of man. Then it's not skin off your ass.

    Part of the problem with beta ass men is that they are upset when women don't do what they want them to do. You can't police people's thoughts. That's gross and in my opinion, worse than her feeling entitled.

    She'll judge and shame him to make sure he doesn't feel entitled to sex while simultaneously feeling like she's entitled to anything he offers.

    Yeah. That's what people do. They try to win. Nothing wrong with that. Understand the dynamics and use that understanding to win, yourself.

    Adding insult to injury, she'll usually say, "Well, it's his fault if he doesn't realize he won't get anywhere and wants to keep paying for stuff."

    If she says that, she's right. He's weak and that's his fault. He deserves no more mercy than her.

    In short, women think they are entitled to everything while men are entitled to nothing "because patriarchy."

    Fine. Let them think whatever they want. Just don't let them do whatever they want to you.

    [–]edwardhwhite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    No. This is evolution. There is no moral justice in evolution.

    [–]PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    It's funny how they are totally fine acting like the designated cunt. Yet feel the deepest forms of heartbreak when they get fucked themselves. Once you realize this you never feel a shred of guilt when you cheat or scam a woman. Zero empathy.

    [–]The-Ban-Hammer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Exactly. If a girl ever says she just wants a "no sex" relationship or just wants to be "cuddle buddies," effectively, you're the emotional tampon at best.

    [–]ChrisBenRoy 11 points12 points  (2 children)

    My story is an epic tale of Blue Pill betaness, almost too bad to even be believable, but every word of it is. I've often thought of making it's own post on the main sub, but I don't want to break format or anything and other than basically saying "Don't do any of this shit" there's no real value to the story other than letting guys know how bad it can get.

    [–]fakefalse 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Do it. Post it. It'll be therapeutic for you and help men in similar situations connect.

    Do it.

    [–]bur_ner_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I was really surprised how therapeutic it was posting about my frustrations and experiences.

    I now understand why catholics confess their sins once in a while.

    [–]demilitarizdsm 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I know its corny but just like Neo I actually felt an instinctual flaw in the give and take in the monogamous relationships I had and saw in my peers. It bothered my like something in the periphery of view you can never catch a glimpse of for too long. Eventually I began just doing the opposite of what was considered traditionally proper (what girls SAY they want) in a very mismanaged way with little direction, yet stumbling into some truth. I actually didn't discover TRP and find harmony and help with my direction till I had already noped the fuck out of the US having settled on the certainty that Western women were at the root of the problem and would need to be replaced entirely.

    [–]Str8_Pillin 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I was on r-seduction one day, which as most of you know after a while turned into relationshipadvice version 2.
    And someone commented on an advice thread about how the kid wasn't dominant enough and that his girlfriend felt like she was dating another girl. And the white knights chimed in with "get out of here with that redpill shit"
    And I remember thinking, 'this is the exact thing I was going to say, what is this redpill they speak of that said almost verbatim what I was thinking myself'

    And I've been here ever since, never even went back. I would guess it's been 2 years, maybe 3. I took the advice of many before me and made a dedicated account. I recommend it

    [–]redpiller001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Good shit man, I just started this account recently for that reason too, only browsing redpill related shit.

    I cant remember how I stumbled upon this subreddit though, I think it was youtube + getting manipulated and cheated by my then LTR, because of that I started wanting to take more care of myself, started buying better fitted clothes , started working out more (all this before knowing about redpill, I was still pretty bp but I was fighting not to be), until I think I saw a youtuber who made videos of how to dress better/get girls or some shit like that, basically he started talking about redpill shit AWALT etc, then I decided to do a little research on reddit and finally found /r/TheRedPill.

    [–]Rickey985 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    sandman (MGTOW) on youtube mentioned this sub once...never looked back again.

    [–]jaynort 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I got tired of being miserable. Posted on Reddit about being sad all the time and lonely, someone sent me a message inviting me to Redpill and I've been reading it ever since. No girl fucked me over, I was just sad all the time and wanted to change my life. So I did.

    [–]rokr1292 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Excerpt from when I posted it here:

    "So I met this girl over a year ago, hit it off, hooked up, then she got back with her ex right before I had planned to start a relationship (I'm shortening the story down to the essentials) hung around for about 8 months being a "friend" (a backup plan) and really just let myself be used. This was before I discovered trp, and I have a history of extreme beta. I thought we were gonna be together for the second time this past summer. She dumped her bf "for me" then drove 3 hours to my school to fuck me before I went to work. Later that day they were back together. Lesson still not learned. Hung around. She was single at the start of this semester, planned a big valentines day surprise (her bday as well) and long story short she changed plans last minute, I gave her her body surprises, my dumb beta ass let her have dinner with a "friend" then when I went to her place later that night for drinks I walked in on her straddling a different ex on her couch. I walked away that night. Discovered trp that night. Haven't talked to her since. Been going to the gym, working more, putting more effort into school, the whole shebang. "

    [–]dj10show 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I did a college graduate paper on modelling of online dating and relationship dynamics in grad school. It covered AF/BB, hypergamy, masculinity, and basically affirmed my worldview while shattering the lies that everyone I knew told me. I found TRP specifically when I developed one-itis for a girl that I had made out with and was texting every day but she told me to get bent after I asked for commitment.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    1. My long-term gf left me for another guy.

    2. The need for self-actualization and masculinity.

    3. Develop frame.

    [–]winterequinox007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I saw TRP being mentioned in an AskReddit thread. My life has not been the same ever since.

    [–]jcromero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    For me, I learned a small set of game and pua techniques from the internet as a teenager. I fucked a few girls in high school, but I had never had an ideal relationship, and in a way I perhaps felt undeserving of one. At the same time it came to pass that my mother was cheating on my father.

    Went to college and was dating a girl named Tina, although secretly pining to fuck other girls, including her best friend. I spent two years in a relationship with Tina. Ultimately I was VERY unhappy. I decided to I had to get out of that relationship. I moved away for a year and spent that time in monk mode (although I never thought of it as such).

    When I came back I became friends with a guy who was REALLY into pua and red pill theory. There seemed to be a lot of truth to what he had to say, and we happened to have compatible personalities. It was at this point that I'd say a "swallowed the red pill".

    From then on I've spent a lot of time learning about red pill theory, if only to figure out the inner workings of the whole courtship/relationship ritual. Had several hook ups and relationships, with women I've actually enjoyed spending time with.

    So far, I've done pretty well for myself, but I've still a long way to go. Perfect position to be for a man my age

    [–]mrpCamper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Was looking for explanations to why my marriage of 15 years was the way it was. Felt wife was not following my lead and wasn't into me anymore. Found Athol Kay's book "Married mans sex life primer" in Dead Bedrooms which led me to explore more and I found this place and MarriedRedPill.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Reading some comment from some SJW in some thread blasting TRP ~3 years ago. I investigated, and found that most everything TRP is true. For me it's gone from Westboro Baptist Church style disdain for hamsters to using it as a self-improvement guide. There are a lot of numbskulls in TRP that do bad things, excusing it as a sort of required machiavellianism to obtain their goals. I feel that you should learn how to establish dominance without destroying people's lives, but that's just me. Cheating is bad (unless your SO is a cuckquean) that shit is all-too common around here.

    I just wish this shit existed before I hit middle school, I wish my dad taught me this shit. Anything against women, even if it's merely human nature applying to both sexes, is considered misogyny in America, so my dad never really talked on the matter.

    From a comment in some forgotten thread, through the evolution of my interpretation of TRP, I've come to the conclusion that it's all to help me pass my seed the best I can. If I want my genes to continue on, I will have to teach RP philosophy to my children, because statistically speaking, broken houses don't produce stable people. I feel like feminism has put humanity in a nose-dive to a future void of good teachings. I don't give a fuck how independent a woman claims or wants to be, raising a kid solo isn't fair to the kid. This goes for men as well. TRP teaches you how to be alpha, how to get tail, how to keep your value, but I rarely see anything covering the continuation of your genes.

    [–]LarryLove 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    As i sleptwalked through a shitty marriage and eventual divorce rape, I knew there was something more for me out there.

    [–]clawjelly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Lets see...

    • Girlfriend of 5 months fucked her sweetlove (now husband) while i was out of the country for two weeks. Left me, got together with him. Still tried to get me drunk and fuck with me a week later. Then complained that i shouldn't have fucked her friend.
    • Girl flirted heavy with me one night. Next day i told her "i think i have a crush on you". She replied with "wtf don't stress me!" Found out later she got a bf, a guy i knew. He had a kid with another girl at that time.
    • Girl i dated told me on the third date "Oh i had a ONS last night. We didn't define our relationship yet, did we?" - It was my birthday.
    • Girl had ONS with me. Told me she's not interested. One month later she was, i wasn't anymore. Her BFF put it like "You're a horrible person!"
    • Girl fucked me. Called me one month later to fuck me again. Said she had a child, but never an orgams until i came along. Either that's the saddest story i heard in my life or she took me for an idiot.
    • Girl got full-on drama everytime she had a drink. Once even made a huge drama on a public place, crying like a child even though i just tried to get her to drive home as i was fed with all of that. Looked especially nasty for me as i'm white and she's black. (All in europe, so nobody called me a racist. Still....)

    I could go on.

    [–]edwardhwhite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    My mom's death made me realize I had to live life to the fullest. I read NMMNG, read the Game and looked at the Seduction board. They mentioned inner game and the Red Pill and I looked it up. I did what you said. Almost instantly had a lot more attention from women, even though I was in monk mode. When I got out of that, a woman who I was incredibly attracted during my blue pill days started hitting on me one night, hard. I was flabbergasted.

    [–]94redstealth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    my journey was triggered long before I found the pill

    it started with my wife cheating on me 3.5 years ago which actually kick-started my inner alpha

    then the discovery of nofap 2-2.5 years ago opened my eyes to my own defecencies

    I found TRP about a year ago right after going beta supernova over a girl because I did not properly address the mental damage caused by my wife

    When will the journey end? When i take my last breath.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Being so beta a female I was orbiting told me I was so nice and should never become a PUA (didn't even know what that meant), looked it up and found even better than Pick Up tricks, I found self-improvement and how live like I was supposed to live, as a man.

    Oddly I never went through the anger phase, it just all seemed to make sense, it was the pieces I needed to complete to finish the puzzle.

    [–]bassat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The woman I was with for nearly five years cheated on me with my room mate while I was in the house. The next day I packed up and moved out of town. Left her there with no means to pay the rent or take care of herself. (I was her beta buck for the entirety of the relationship) without my help she trapped the guy she slept with in her web of lies and I stumbled accros the pill in a /r/relationship thread. I took it all in stride and made change as I saw it was needed. Months later I provide for no one but myself and my dog. My journey through monk mode and keeping in mind the awalt theory have made me more self pleased and made my life more enjoyable for me.

    [–]wont_tell_i_refuse 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I had a mental breakdown and broke up with my ex. Lived at home unemployed, hikikimori-style, occasionally trying to get in touch. Finally I bugged her until she called me up on the phone.

    It lasted an hour. I told her I loved her. She spoke to me like I was a stranger who was bothering her on the subway.

    After this disaster I sent her a godddamn poem. Didn't work.

    That was when I realized that women can't love. I had personal confirmation. "Holy fuck, TRP is real."

    You can imagine I wasn't in a great place after all that shit. At this same time I was swallowing and in my Anger Phase. Rough to say the least. Took 6 months of misery. I started to lift. I hit the bricks on my career, my social skills and game improved... throw on a little NoFap...

    Now things are better than I ever thought possible, although I'll never forget what women are capable of. Or rather, what they're not. TRP saved my life.

    [–]Frigzy[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Would you go as far as being grateful for the in your face wake up call?

    The more I read these stories the more I dread not the disastrous events, but the mediocrity of 'good enough' relationships, marriages and lives where the truth will always flirt with the surface but never actually has a chance to truly reveal itself.

    [–]wont_tell_i_refuse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Would you go as far as being grateful for the in your face wake up call?

    Yes and no. My relationship was the shit besides my own issues. I was with a unicorn (before her loving bf left and she hopped on the CC). Virgin, 0 drama, smart, body like holyfuck etc.

    If I had found TRP while in my relationship and figured out how bad the women on the other side of that are.. I would have gotten my shit together, sought help, whatever it took.

    But under the circumstances? I needed it. Like I said, it saved my life. I would have killed myself if I went through that believing in "true love".

    [–]thesaucegod 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I was in the 10th grade and had a crush. I was super nice and eventually I ended up getting yelled at. I was confused and I wanted to find answers.

    [–]Frigzy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Damn. You've experienced the most gentle TRP invoking moment I've read so far.

    I'm glad it did the trick for you!

    [–]animalpoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I've always been an Evo-psychology believer . TRP has sooooo many parallels with Evo-psych, it's just good common knowledge diluted by society. Essentially it aligned with my beliefs and what I had already witnessed but gave me new ways of talking about what I had already witnessed.

    [–]blackhawks93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I found out that "game" was something you could learn instead of something you just had. I bought into the narrative of "be yourself." I was tired of being nice and not getting anything to show for it.

    [–]phamousTRP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Had oneitis for a girl I thought was the one. Took a shit ton of acid at a rave and experienced her raw hypergamy and it completely imploded my blue pill worldview. The day after I went looking for answers and stumbled upon TRP through the mainline subreddits.

    [–]PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I kept being told to enter a relationship by my miserable blue pill friends and family. Continuously told them that it looked like a shitty deal. Finally I caved while dating this girl and I got proven right. I never had such a horrible time in my life. Once I got out of that black hole I discovered TRP with some alpha mates of mine. Everything I once believed got validated and I've been liberated ever since.

    [–]F_Dingo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I think I stumbled upon this place while reading an askreddit thread, not sure what it was about but that doesn't matter anymore.

    The knowledge here hit home with me and explained a ton. I can count wth my fingers the number of times I had interaction with females in highschool and in college so far (last semester at community college right now, all the women are fat slobs, mothers etc). I'm a rare case on here in the respect that I haven't been burned at all by women (zero interaction). I'm hopeful I can have success with women when I'm at university this fall with what I've learned from red pill.

    [–]tyson2444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Found this sub by random chance Really like the matrix Oh and from the moment I started reading the sidebar: every bit of it resonated with me Saved my 16-year old hide honestly

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Someone commented a link in NoFap. My anxiety was the driving factor that kept me reading. But it also helped that TRP made too much sense.

    [–]huge_gap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Someone on reddit said TRP is toxic a few years ago so I checked it out. I took to it like a duck to water after all the garbage relationships I'd been in (mostly because I was acting like a giant bitch baby).

    Was tired of not understanding why women act a certain way. Now I feel like every fucking action a woman takes can be explained in an empirical fashion. I feel like a fucking expert regarding female behavior.

    [–]Gawernator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It's hard to remember how I even found this place. I think I started out by stumbling across some Art of Manliness articles, which I enjoyed. Not sure what triggered it, maybe a quest for self help after messing up some female relations, but I found the main sub again and started reading everything.

    [–]UniversalFapture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Was told i was too much of a gentleman. She spreads rumors to people at school about me being obsessed and how i stole her numbed out her phone. Proceeds to get with one of my buddies.

    He claimed he didn't know. She didn't have the decency to find someone i don't know.

    The kissed in front of me and everything. And texted about god knows what. She talked to my other pals about how she wanted him so bad. Completely disregarding me. I fed her. Opened doors for her. Took her lunch tray. All that shit.

    Ive moved since. This was last june. Her last phrase to me on the last day of school still rings in my ears to this day.

    "Im a cold hearted Bitch..."

    AWALT.

    [–]KumonRoguing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I was in a wonderful ltr about half a year after getting out of an awful one. I read about this place somewhere else and decided to check it out. Naturally alpha I knew most of it to be true. Broke it off with my ltr after losing hope on marriage, children, etc.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Tom Leykis. Also, women.

    [–]soadaa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    "Love"

    [–]Gynocentric 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Two reasons.

    One, I have a son, and I worry for his future. I see how men are being feminized; how they are made to feel as though expressions of masculinity are something of which they should be ashamed; how they are being sold traditionally female products (e.g. face cream) and thinking this is normal; how everyone just accepts that there is a "rape culture" or some shadowy "patriarchy" keeping women down; how statistics are distorted and misrepresented (e.g. the gender "pay gap") or entirely ignored (e.g. that men are far more likely to die in violent assaults than women); how a woman can make a false sexual assault allegation and not only face no consequences, but also not be shamed for doing so; how in film and television everyone loses their shit when a man slaps a woman but nobody bats an eyelid when the roles are reversed; how in tv shows dads are portrayed as retarded morons who wouldn't survive without a "strong female" to prop them up; how companies and government agencies are implementing gender based employment and promotion quotas; how in my world women are now allowed to serve in combat roles and because they are usually unable to pass the physical and psychological standards, those standards will be (and are) lowered, meaning that the soldier beside me may not be the one best qualified to serve with me; how women are told they can have the career, children, money, great home, holidays, daily romance and a man but this is a lie because something's gotta give, which usually means children are shoved into child care centres sooner and sooner and a society that valued stay at home motherhood now seems to treat it with disdain; how some numb clueless c*nt screeched about how because I played video games as a kid my poor little mind was warped into only seeing women as sexual objects; how some fuckin' idiot reckons gender is a "social construct" and all the fucktards with a vested interest nod their heads and introduce this foolishness into schools to screw with the minds of our kids; how it's now frowned upon to find a woman visually sexually attractive; how I'm meant to think some fat fuckin' whale with "curves" is meant to be the feminine ideal...I could go on.

    The second reason is more selfish. In my mid forties, having worked many years in a job that gave me no choice but to be alpha or perish (sometimes literally), I've felt increasingly marginalised from the "mainstream". I wanted to know if there were others out there who were experiencing this and who, like me were becoming more confused about what was happening to men in this "progressive" society. Hence, TRP.

    [–]TheReindeerGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    how companies and government agencies are implementing gender based employment and promotion quotas

    I really hate this shit, it is just plain discrimination. People can call it positive discrimination all you want, but if you positively discriminate one you are negatively discriminating another.

    which usually means children are shoved into child care centres sooner and sooner

    Why do you think it is a bad thing that children put in day care at a young age? I think that a good day care can have a positive effect on the kids because they come into contact with other children which stimulates their social skills and it stimulates them to learn. For example if one kid can say a few words then another kid who can't is usually stimulated to try this as well. Obviously other setting in which you bring kids together will have the same effect.

    [–]TheReindeerGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I was (still am) in a LTR living together. At some point last year I realised I was getting unhappy, my life was heading in the wrong direction and my sex life was drying up. As the realisation and acceptance came slowly I didn't really go searching for anything but I guess I was primed or more open to relationship/game advice.

    At some point I stumbled on a reddit post or comment of an RP guy (maybe a mod) I don't remember who. He shared a story of him explaining the red pill to a female friend who was calling him a misogynist for being RP at first but then as he explained what RP was and what it meant for him she turned her opinion around and was cool about it. Since the post was a recollection of the conversation it had now explained his view on RP to the reader as well.

    The post sparked my interest, so I looked up the trp sub. Since I was in a shithole and primed for information like this it hit home. The first few posts I read I just knew this was right even though somehow it felt so bad, wrong or hateful, which was just the BP conditioning talking. From then on I just spent hours every day reading the various subs, blogs and books. Now I'm a lot happier and my sex life improving too.

    PS: if anyone know what post I'm talking about and has a link or something, please share it with me as I'd love to read it again.

    [–]bur_ner_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    It started when I casually mentioned to a woman how much I disliked it when young girls could manipulate grown men for cash, gifts, time etc.

    The woman must have taken it as a challenge. The next day she started a psychological/emotional assault on me which lasted for roughly about 2 months. She successfully manipulated cash and gifts out of me. At that time I even convinced myself that I didn't want to get her in the sack.

    I felt like crying each time I gave in because I subconsciously knew something was wrong but I was deep in a blue pill mindset and hadn't severed that deference attitude to my mom. Essentially, the woman found my wind up knob and boy did she turn it, even got her friends in on it too.

    Life would have continued in the blue pill despite all the torment except by chance, I happened to read an article on how women manipulate men which piqued my interest. When I dug deeper and was linked to Illimitable man's site, the chain snapped and I woke up. Then I became interested in knowing what the red pill was about.

    Took about 4 months to learn sufficient game to flip the script on the woman. She now defers to me and let's me touch her how I want even though she's married. At first I wanted to bang her for revenge, probably because of the anger phase, but now not so much.

    [–]bitigchi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ex GF sent me a copy of "No more Mr. Nice Guy". I guess she's a good person.