Why don't you lift heavy weights? (self.asktrp)

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You hear people bang on and on and ON about the benefits of having muscle when it comes to all things women.

And yet you are on here complaining this girl isn't giving you the time of day. And you aren't in the gym 3-5 days a week.

Tell us why, so we can destroy your shitty excuse!

[–]Meglomaniac 35 points36 points  (37 children)

but im lazy and its haaaard

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (36 children)

You are being sarcastic, but for people who actually are lazy and think it's haaard, here are some suggestions.

Lazy: You are too lazy. So don't go to the gym, because if you have to pack your bag, drive or walk to the gym, change in the locker room...your laziness will defeat you. --> workout at home. After you have made some progress, you will like working out so much that you will not have to overcome laziness. Just like a nerd is not too lazy to play world of warcraft.

It's haaaard: It's hard in the beginning, because your body is not used to it. And you have not learnt to like "haaaard". You will learn to love it.

The best approach for people who don't like hard and are lazy is to begin with very low intensity and very short workout sessions at home.

Get two dumbbells where you can adjust the weight. (Get quality dumbbells where it' easy to adjust the weights.)

Do only ONE exercise each day. And only small muscle groups.

Day 1: Biceps Day 2: Triceps Day 3: Shoulder Repeat

This has multiple benefits for lazy and wimpy dudes.

  • Muscle soreness only in one part of your body. Even a sissy can deal with it. He might quit because of soreness from a full-body workout.

  • Working only on small muscle groups doesn't tire your central nervous system. You won't be tired afterwards. You won't even sweat. It doesn't feel haaard.

  • Fast visible results that will motivate the lazy fucker. Working his abs will not motivate him because he will not see results under his beer belly. Working his legs will not motivate him because he doesnt care about how his legs look (yet!). Bigger chest and back will not motivate him because his arms look even thinner.

  • Get a kitchen timer. Use low weights, do 10 repetitions and rest for 30 seconds in between. Benefits: You will tire the muscles because the rest time is short. Not because the weight is haaaard. You will not have to struggle lifting them (low weights) it will just be a slight burning sensation after a few sets. Sinews and joints will not be stressed. (Important!)Do about 5 sets, but you can add some sets if you feel like the muscle isn't tired. Increase the weight for your next workout and go back to 5 sets. 30 seconds rest has another benefit. A shorter workout. Great for lazy dudes. (About 10 minutes per day).

  • After a month, go down to 6 reps and increase rest between sets to over a minute. You will be able to use a lot more weight than before. This motivates even lazy guys.This is where you will start to see real gains. Even more motivation.

  • Make a workout playlist with your favorite songs

  • Hopefully after two months and progress he will decide to take it a step further and join a gym. Thanks to his new triceps he will be able to do bench presses with an empty bar. He wouldnt have been able to do them before because his triceps would have failed long before his chest.

Okay...I tried to be funny with the lazy and haaard stuff here.

But this is actually how I recovered. I had and have serious health problems and wasn't able to lift weights for some years. Whenever I tried to do a full body workout my health declined seriously. Even when I reduced the intensity to ridiculous amounts.

So I tried to come up with a solution to decrease intensity even further.

It worked and I am back in the gym.

I also found it interesting that I had more gains on my arms then I ever had before. Even back then when I was healthy my arms were always small compared to my chest and back. I know that compound exercises are considered superior, but in my case it was so effective that I plan to do 2 weeks of "only small muscle groups" in the future again.

EDIT: Please read the post completely before attacking me. Most of the questions in the replies are already answered in this post. I would NEVER recommend my routine to a motivated beginner.

[–]El_Shakiel 12 points13 points  (28 children)

Day 1: Biceps Day 2: Triceps Day 3: Shoulder Repeat

Dude, never skip leg day

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (11 children)

Do only one exercise each day. And only small muscle groups

This is the fucking worst lifting advice I have ever seen especially for beginners.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (8 children)

No, it's not. Not for the intended audience and not if they do it as I suggested.

[–]GC0W30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's like that Dave Ramsey financial coaching. If you're high-income and super-organized it would cost you a little bit of money in interest but the simplicity of the system keeps average and below-average 'organization' people on the wagon.

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    [–]LeviGoldberg 5 points6 points  (5 children)

    Every day is leg day when you're carrying around 20 lb biceps. Get with the program Weasley.

    [–]aescetic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Lmao. What?

    [–]LeviGoldberg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Which part are you having trouble understanding?

    [–]WeasleyIsOurKing7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    This dude is telling beginners to only work bis, tris, and chest. Not sure if trolling or serious.

    [–]dmt267 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Lmao exactly. If anything,beginners should be doing full body workouts

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (10 children)

    It's the whole point of this routine to skip leg days for a good reason.

    Later on of course you mustn't skip leg days.

    [–]nsummy 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    And you skip chest and back also? Why the fuck would you only do small arm and shoulder exercises? If anything beginners should do 4 exercises: squats, deadlifts, military presses, and bench press. Work on those 4 and results will come in all areas.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    did you even read his post? his post is for people too lazy to go to the gym.

    The best approach for people who don't like hard and are lazy is to begin with very low intensity and very short workout sessions at home.

    its about getting them started working out so they get into it instead of giving up after going 1 or 2 times.

    here is why he doesnt advise squats and deadlifts and so on

    He might quit because of soreness from a full-body workout.


    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Man, thank you! I was really wondering if I completely fucked up getting the point across. Perhaps I'll add an edit, but I sincerely doubt it would help...

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    yeah i dont know whats wrong with them.

    [–]2niczar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    did you even read his post? his post is for people too lazy to go to the gym.

    I have extremely low willpower (ADHD) and I find the quick results of SL5x5 to be very motivating. I don't think I would have stuck with a low intensity routine. Instead I just can't wait to go to the gym.

    [–]5BluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Squats and Deadlifts are for the young with good backs. This 40-something does Leg Press and Lat Pull-downs instead. Military and bench are obviously critical. I added 3X sets of Abs, Hamstring, and Bicep Curls, later plus a cardio after I started to get in shape.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    did you even read his post? his post is for people too lazy to go to the gym.

    The best approach for people who don't like hard and are lazy is to begin with very low intensity and very short workout sessions at home.

    its about getting them started working out so they get into it instead of giving up after going 1 or 2 times.

    here is why he doesnt advise squats and deadlifts and so on

    He might quit because of soreness from a full-body workout.


    [–]nsummy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    You can still go light on all of those exercises I described.

    [–]El_Shakiel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Well, imho you better get your habits straight since day 1. But hey, I guess there's room for both philosophies ;)

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)


    This was advice for lazy and sissy people who quit after 3 workout sessions and people with health issues.

    If you are motivated and want to workout properly you include legs from day 1 of course.

    [–]GC0W30 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I'm a fat guy with kick-ass leg muscles but arms that look like I'm a pro WoW player. When I try getting my weights up on leg presses, etc, my knees crack like someone is hitting them with a bat. Anything you can do for this?

    [–]aescetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Knee cracking is common, I would suggest working out your upper body more obviously and eating better.

    [–]5BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    There is still not agreement on the clinical ramifications of this issue (i.e. whether you can just ignore the cracking if it causes no pain or if it is a precursor to arthritis). Do the knees crack without weight? (Such as when bending legs on your back).

    I would have a doctor check them and probably get some X-Rays before I did heavy squats. Bad knees are a bitch and you don't want them.

    Hey, OP: We found a legitimate reason to avoid heavy weights- but only for a specific joint. I would double up on thigh and hamstring plus upper body till you get clearance- and make it HEAVY.

    [–]GC0W30 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    They don't crack during stretches, no. I had a fall (cut grass on a steep hill) doing yard work like 5 years ago, and one of them popped for 3 months afterwards.

    Just focusing on upper body, and mostly because my job intermittently requires me to lift and precisely mount 100 pound machines.

    [–]11NV0K3R 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Actually...I find that going to the gym I lift harder/better.

    Two reasons.

    1) Yoga Pants.

    2) I'm the weakest smallest most pathetic fuck there(not really). Every guy there could fuck my plates better. So I lift. And I lift hard.

    Self motivation is not for the faint of heart, unless you have iron will.

    And let's face it, if we did, most of us wouldn't be here.

    [–]PlebDestroyer 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I strongly disagree with your program... Bro splits aren't optimal. A full body workout with the 3 main heavy lifts would be better.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    you understand who his post was intented for, yes?

    [–]debitsandcredits4lyf 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Thank you. This was actually helpful.

    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Thx for the feedback!

    [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Read this entire blog and don't come back until you are done. aworkoutroutine.com

    It's like the anti-bro science complete. His beginner routine is optimal for beginners who want to primarily gain muscle. It has heavy compound exercises in the 8-10 hypertrophy rep range - hitting every body part twice a week, thus stimulating protein synthesis optimally. As a beginner, everything is week and small, why the hell would you waste your time doing isolation exercises?

    He actually ads two isolation exercises for the people who just can't cope with doing the main 3 lifts and really really feel that they need more.

    Just give it a good read.

    [–]aescetic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Your workout routine makes no sense. All you need to do to get started and make good gains is SS. It's simple, 3 days a week and you will make fast gains. Do that for a couple months then switch to something with more isolation.

    [–]Toof 30 points31 points  (4 children)


    [–]PlebDestroyer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    But you're still a red piller?

    [–]Toof 21 points22 points  (1 child)

    Ain't nothin' gonna break-a my frame.

    [–]PlebDestroyer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That's the spirit!

    [–]thepillwastaken 18 points19 points  (5 children)

    I'm fascinated that so many people do not get why weightlifting is such a parallel to this lifestyle. Let me explain :

    First off, no one is suggesting you juice up and look like a competitive bodybuilder. Bad idea. This is how your heart fails and your cock stops working when you are 40. No Test injection will save you from this fate. Anyway, moving on.

    • Natural testosterone release. Pushing and pulling plates releases natural testosterone in your body. It gives you all the boost that guys who take test injections pay for, except this is the natural way.

    • Mood enhancement. Go to your job and then go work out and tell me you don't feel awesome after you get home and shower. For a power boost, do this then go on a date. You will feel fantastic.

      • Build. A muscular body commands attention from women. Doesn't need to be a giant veiny bodybuilder look. Just the result of diet and work in the gym. This instantly makes you better in bed due to your body being hard as a rock. Girls will lay with you and just want to feel you against them due to this. It creates sexual attraction.
    • Sexual and mental dominance. You will be better in bed, look good naked and be a more confident person all around from lifting. It is a building block to sexual success with women. There is much more to it than just that (most which is mental), but consider it the foundation for plate spinning.

    Some guy wants to tell me why he doesn't work out? Fine. Don't do it. Not my problem. Thats just one less guy I have to wait on a bench for.

    [–]GC0W30 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    All three of your bullet points are why my LTR pretty much gets plowed every night about an hour and a half after I get back from the gym. [Time to shower and cool down...]

    [–]PlebDestroyer -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

    Everything you said about steroids is false...

    [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (9 children)

    subbing to trp should automatically sub you to r/bodybuilding because the amount of bad knowledge about lifting/building muscle on trp is atrocious and cringeworthy - how people can be so insightful about one thing and so ignorant of one arguably less complex is astounding

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    prefer /r/gainit myself

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    top thread is about runny poop, nice

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

    Yeah the lifting advice I've seen here is so bad. In this very thread:

    Do only ONE exercise each day. And only small muscle groups.

    And it's been upvoted a lot. I bet most of the people on here that strongly advocate lifting do not lift properly and have a shit diet as well.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    the poster of that post had a specific audience in mind with post. and the goal of his advise was to get people to START doing it.

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      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Anyone can do whatever they want but if they're doing a dumbass routine where they just train arms, shoulders and chest then I can call it out for being shit.

      A beginner will make way more gains by doing compound exercises and focusing on progressive overload. Curls will get them little gains then they'll give up because they're not seeing progress.

      [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thank you, this had to be said!!

      [–]jonsmitherz 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Story time! I was speaking to this girl the other day. i saw her checking out lazar angelov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9imFDpvER0 for any one who doesn't know who he is) so i asked her if she thinks hes hot. She replied saying hes too "muscly", so i asked her if she likes fat guys as a joke and she said as long as their not too fat. Yet every time our old pal lazar posts a pic of his body on facebook her hamster goes into overdrive and she likes it and comments etc...

      Tl;dr Lift lift lift. just do it.

      [–]El_Shakiel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Remember bro, a woman's word aint worth a penny. Put that guy and your lady in a room and let's witness what course of actions ensues. Actions bromigo, actions.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I fucked up one of my wrists a couple months ago, lifting really heavy has gotten too risky. I do what I can with the machines for now.

      To prevent future fuckups of peoples wrists I must re-iterate. take your ego out of lifting, don't go beyond your limits and hurt yourself just because you want to be lifting as much as the other tools in the gym. Slow it down and use proper form, half those tards are only lifting that much because they are using momentum rather than their actual muscles to do the lifting. Stop trying to showoff and use the proper form with the weight that you can properly lift. Or you'll fuck up your wrists, or drop the bar on your chest, or ruin your back, or any number of horrible things.

      [–]SenorPuff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      My excuse: I was pulling 16 hours a day 6 days a week running my business for about 10 weeks.

      But I didn't stop exercising. I'd squeeze in a tabata of something when I could. I kept plates in my car. I'd do pushups in the middle of a phone call.

      Things are settling down. I'm fuckin ecstatic to hit the gym hard.

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      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Preach brother.

      These guys often have personal trainers dedicated to getting them to look good.

      Look at all the fuss over chrim hemsworth at the moment ever since he lost weight and gained muscle!

      [–]El_Shakiel 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      lean muscle fame just appears when you get famous muscles


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        [–]El_Shakiel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        [–]wiking85 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Bad back. I have to be careful

        [–]killwhiteyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        having adequate musculature will actually help your back. but you probably shouldn't be doing this on your own if you already have a bad back. you probably have really shitty form.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The only way to really get better is to gain strength. I almost broke my back as a teenager when I wasn't being spotted properly when learning to squat. Since getting into a workout regiment I never get random back pains and my posture is better than ever. Start very low weight and just get form down. I stopped lifting for years after that injury and it was the worst decision possible.

        [–]TheRealMewt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I physically cannot handle lifting heavy weights anymore. I feel lots of discomfort in my joints to the point of physical pain whenever I do particularly heavy exercises for any muscle group. Even proper form doesn't save my body from feeling like I'm lifting my last weight every time I push or pull. Bench and pullups fuck with my shoulders. Squat and deadlifts hurt my lower back and my hip.

        Doesn't stop me from trying, but I have obvious physical limits to adhere to now than when I did ten years ago.

        [–]GuyIncognito3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Back problems. I can't squat anymore.

        I still train with medium weights though.

        [–]jonathan_vii 1 point2 points  (0 children)


        Current form..18 month transfo, PM me, or if this gets enough upvotes I will do an AMA for my TRP brethren

        [–]topredhat 4 points5 points  (5 children)

        No motivation

        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        If getting to be your best self isn't motivation enough, you shouldn't be here in the first place.

        [–]jonbristow 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        fuck you then. seriously.

        You've read EVERYWHERE than the first step. The very first one toward your better self is working out. If you can't even do 10min exercise every day. Fuck you. Nobody's gonna come out of the sky to help you.

        [–]killwhiteyy 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        make it part of your routine. it's not an option. consider it work. motivation really doesn't have to be a part of this. it's always going to be easier to sit on the couch and watch Ow My Balls with a bag of chips and a Big Belcher in hand than it is to have a nice physique.

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          [–]GC0W30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Stupid amounts, man. We are all animals. I spent just 9 months lifting 2X per week and was able to move up 2 HB grades.

          [–][deleted]  (21 children)


          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (10 children)

          Save up and buy your own equipment then.

          [–]gt35r 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          This 100000x

          I'm actually building a home gym in the garage. No I didn't spend thousands of dollars either. I'm picking up a bench for $50 and a lot of the other odds and ends for less than $200. Also, if you're anything like me, some days are harder to leave your house to go to the gym, DONT WORRY there's one in your fucking garage now. ZERO excuses, throw back some PWO and hit your garage with music blaring.

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            [–]AskTRP Endorsed ContributorAlphaAsFAQ 22 points23 points  (7 children)

            [–]c_anthony 0 points1 point  (6 children)

            I didn't know this was a thing. Thank you.

            [–]FitVaper 0 points1 point  (5 children)

            So, how is it going?

            [–]c_anthony 1 point2 points  (4 children)

            Not well in general but that's life.

            [–]FitVaper 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            Are you lifting? If not, seriously just follow this program.

            No excuses.

            [–]c_anthony 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            I'm not because I'm dealing with some severe depression and such. Just can't bring myself to do much right now.

            [–]FitVaper 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Yeah, I've been there, to be honest, I'm still depressed, but lifting/running/exercising really helps a lot. Try to stay positive, I know it's hard but it's our only hope. Things do get better so TRY, that's all you need to do. Just start light, some push ups and some squats, later on you can start the program I told you.

            Stay strong!

            [–]fathak 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            fill reusable shopping bags with something heavy ( rocks, sand, books, etc ) & start.

            [–]nsummy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Download the app You are your own gym. Best money you will ever spend.

            [–]c_anthony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I'll have to check that out. Thanks.

            [–]Mans_Right_To_Choose 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Buy a kettlebell. Twenty bucks and you can do A LOT. And it takes up less room to store than a basketball.

            [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

            Kettlebell workouts are ideal for lazy people with no money. Really strengthens your core, you can feel the benefits within just a few workouts.

            [–]El_Shakiel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Look for Lafaye Method. Best method on Earth for body weight training.

            [–]c_anthony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I'll look into that. Thanks.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            bodyweight exercises. there is a whole community thats about building muslce and strength using only your body.

            no excuses.

            [–]2niczar 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            I priced a home gym with everything needed to do SL5x5 (squat rack, olympic bar bell, weights, bench) new at €1000 taxes+delivery included. Takes up only 2 m2 of floor space.

            [–]c_anthony 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I don't have anywhere near enough money for that.

            [–]1Reddthrown 0 points1 point  (8 children)

            I work hard and need my sleep and taking a gym kit when I travel takes up too much space. Also, I row twice a week anyway. Oh, and my gym buddy can't join me for another week or so because of some threatening injury.

            [–][deleted]  (7 children)


              [–]1Reddthrown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Hehe, thank you!! Although rowing is a full body workout, you are 100% right that it won't grow my muscles on its own.

              [–]1Reddthrown 1 point2 points  (5 children)

              Any suggestions for a body weight exercise routine?

              [–]AskTRP Endorsed ContributorAlphaAsFAQ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              [–][deleted]  (3 children)


                [–]1Reddthrown 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                How do squats work to be effective without weights? Do you have some guidance at hand? Thanks!

                [–][deleted]  (1 child)


                  [–]1Reddthrown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Thank you. I might try burpees and running on the spot Too.

                  [–]Lilluzzo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  herniated discs and scoliosis :(

                  [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                  I have S-type scoliosis and a hernia.

                  I still fucking deadlift and squat. When you have a weak back it is even more important to exercise and build your muscles so they can support you.

                  [–]Humankeg 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Lack of energy. I am actually in pretty decent shape, but I have been going maybe twice a week on average, need to go a lot more (been two weeks since also). I seriously think its a medical problem, but I've had tests done and the doctors see nothing wrong. Testosterone is higher than average, thyroid is fine, iron is good.

                  Mneh, maybe my tiredness is just lazyness. But when I don't feel exhausted, I am going 4-6 times a week. But as of right now, my body is telling me I want 8-13 hours of sleep a night.

                  [–]2niczar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  That could be various medical problems, some severe, get yourself checked out. From hormonal issues to neurological or psychiatric ones. Narcolepsy, atypical depression (accompanied by weight gain usually), low T, tyroid problems, and a myriad of other things. Seriously, if things don't get better soon, go see a doctor.

                  [–]theoctopuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I've been lifting for a few years now. I recently tore my rotator cuff and will most likely need surgery to repair it.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Because I broke my ankle. I'm not making excuses, just looking for suggestions on how I can work around it. Sitting around all day makes me feel like shit.

                  [–]raceAround126 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I need a new gym. My gym has so oversold subscriptions, it's pretty difficult to get a session where you can stay active all the time and not have to wait for equipment. But I live in buttfuck nowhere and this is it, so I guess there it is.

                  When I move, the story will be different. But some days I know full well it's going to be stacked and very little point in going. I have a few dumbbells at home so on those days, I'll at least go for a run and do some free-weight exercises at least.

                  [–]5BluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I REALLY love this post. I don't know a damn reason why you wouldn't lift heavy weights so I will troll through this thread.

                  Banging hotties is not the only goal in life. Staying alive and healthy are pretty good motivations as well. Over a year ago, before I unplugged my blood sugar, triglycerides, fat/lipids, HDL and LDL were ALL abnormal. I felt like shit!

                  4 months after I unplugged and 3 months after I started power lifting 3-5 days a week again I had another physical. Blood tests COMPLETELY normal. "T" on the high end of normal. Feeling great!

                  My Dr. couldn't believe it- said "you are 10 years younger than your last physical. We are done here."

                  [–]northsidefugitive 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Bad shoulder and shin splints. i still hit it 5 times a week on a good week, I just struggle with a lot of different exercises.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  My massive dong has me covered. Har har

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  ITT: Excuses.

                  You're not going to get "too bulky" from lifting for 3-5 days per week. Look at Zyzz, god of aesthetics. Girls 'mirin everywhere. Guy was on massive amounts of test, tren, clen, t3 for years (not even cycling just blasting and cruising on it) and still had an aesthetic physique with just enough size. And he was doing some high volume shit.

                  So that should take care of the "lol look what women are gushing over" argument.

                  If you don't have access to a gym, look up bodyweight fitness routines. There's a reason most inmates are shredded despite many not having access to a gym and needing to get their protein through tuna and peanut butter.

                  If you're not motivated, what the fuck are you even doing here?

                  [–][deleted]  (1 child)


                    [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                    Well yeah, you can get what you might consider too bulky, but for 99% of people that point won't come for at least a few years of consistent hard work.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

                    Because I like compound exercises more and I want tone, strength, balance and mobility more than just bulk.

                    But I don't think that was your point.

                    [–]killwhiteyy 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                    if you want strength and balance then you should lift heavy at low reps. for mobility, stretch. for tone, eat at a deficit. check out the video in my comment here. lifting strong =/= hulkmode. bodybuilders lift intermediate weights at higher volume (more sets/reps) than powerlifters to max out hypertrophy. the difference between the two is the efficiency of the nervous system. you train your CNS to work with heavier weights, it's going to find a way to adapt, and that isn't necessarily building more muscle. you're not going to powerlift and NOT build muscle, but you CAN bodybuild to hulk mode and NOT be as strong as you could be.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    strength and balance then you should lift heavy at low reps

                    kinda what I am currently doing with compound, working up from body weight training previously.

                    for mobility, stretch.

                    Fuck that, yoga is much better, especially for joints, tendons and again balance.

                    bodybuilders lift intermediate weights at higher volume (more sets/reps)

                    at my gym they go for medium reps and increasing higher weight sets.

                    you're not going to powerlift and NOT build muscle

                    Absolutely, my point exactly. Op presented a case for why you don't body build: hulk up.

                    the benefits of having muscle when it comes to all things women.

                    I would argue that actual beef is less important than physical ability, endurance and tone. I am currently building up towards strength but insisting on the basics, letting the big bulky muscles last

                    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                    Yoga is stretching jackass.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    regular focus stretching doesn't not work small stabilising muscles and joints

                    [–]AskTRP Endorsed Contributorbicepsblastingstud -1 points0 points  (2 children)

                    I want tone, strength, balance and mobility more than just bulk.

                    >implying light weights to tone

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    No I am impliyng, strong joints, ligaments, short muscles and body fat are more important than inches.

                    [–]SenorPuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    You know lifting accomplishes those things if not done like a moron, right?

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                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

                    I feel you on that point.

                    Sort of.

                    DIRTY BULK THEN CUT.

                    Enough excuses, eat crap if you have to, sure you'll gain fat, then you go on a cut and it will all be fine.

                    Next excuse please!

                    [–]AskTRP Endorsed Contributorbicepsblastingstud 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                    DIRTY BULK THEN CUT.

                    Bad advice.

                    Most dudes put on way too much fat when they bulk, which makes cutting harder.

                    [–]drimadethistocomment 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    I wish i could even dirty bulk. I'm 150lbs (up from 140) and having a hard time even eating enough. I just don't have the apetite. I'm slowly getting there.

                    [–]proudcunt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Drink your calories. Protein shakes/smoothies/milk shakes. Whatever works.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Dirty bulk is always better than no bulk.

                    Life is tough when you are broke.

                    Also cutting isn't that hard as long as you are really strict about the amounts you eat.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                    eat crap if you have to

                    This is shit advice. No one has to eat crap. Pretty sure rice and tuna costs a lot less than fast food.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    Tuna is expensive man.

                    The cheapest source of protein I worked out by weight is eggs, followed by frozen pork, followed by buying bags of frozen chicken.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    I can get a tin of tuna for 60p. Shop around.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    That's actually more expensive weight wise than the chicken or a crate of eggs you can carry off for a pound.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Average diet, average body.

                    Also this "organic, unique, protein rich food" thing is bullshit that you tell yourself so you don't have to stop eating donuts.

                    My bulking foods consist of white rice, pasta, potatoes, eggs (you'll notice these are all very cheap too btw), shredded wheat, oats and chicken/tuna as my main protein sources. There's nothing "unique" or mysterious about it. It's good carbs and protein and a calorie surplus. That's it.

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                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (18 children)

                    Yeah but it won't get you to the optimal body for attracting women as fast as lifting weights.

                    Plus sounds like laziness to me. One work out a week vs 3- 5 work outs a week.

                    [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (9 children)

                    Please stop. Almost everything you are saying is wrong. Just stop.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)


                    Show me this one work out that will build muscle please?

                    [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    Edit:wrong person

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    I'll give it a read but never did I EVER advocate for isolation exercises.

                    I'm always telling people to go for compound lifts! I squat 3 times a week and deadlift twice a week man. I only really do stuff that involves a barbell and complex movements. Don't do much isolation at all so you would never hear me recommending it!

                    [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Oops, wrong person, forgive me I'm on mobile.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                    While you are at it, find me this proof that girls prefer non-muscular guys.

                    [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                    What?! Who said that? Girls prefer muscular guys, that's a given.

                    [–]proudcunt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                    Some women prefer men who look like women, but that could just be boyfriend material. They're likely fucking real men on the side.

                    [–]PlebDestroyer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    I've learned that it hardly matters what you look like it how much you name when it comes to cold pickup and game in general.

                    [–]proudcunt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Of course. Even unattractive fat fucks can get a non-LA 8. 10 if they've got a lot of money, but that's only a temporary arrangement.

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                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      You can do 3-5 days a week no steroids as long as you eat right!

                      [–]xfox21 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                      Where the hell did you pull this idea out of?

                      [–][deleted]  (3 children)


                        [–]xfox21 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                        Working out 5 times a week works great if you are taking steroids

                        I was referring to this statement.

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                          [–]mrfocus22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Workout 5 times a week. Plus at least one soccer game. Not on steroids. Miss the DOMS.

                          [–]nsummy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          I disagree. I work out 5 days a week doing multi joint workouts

                          [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                          Cause I'm a boxer and we build muscle from sparring, hitting the bag and shadow boxing. Unlike these beta liftbros my muscle is actually functional

                          [–]Concord_Fight -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

                          Because I've read, and it makes sense to me, that you can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. I think low body fat percentage is more important than having lots of muscles, but you have to have both to really get going. At 6'1'' and 182 pounds, I'm ~19/20% body fat with a lean body mass of about 145 pounds. I want to get down to ~160 before I start trying to gain muscle. I'm down ~15/20 pounds from March.

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          Cut whilst lifting then. It's perfectly possible.

                          Also you can definitely cut faster than 20 pounds in 5 months!

                          Sort out your diet. 2 months of pain and weight loss rather than 1 year man. Learn from boxers!

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