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Is 30 too late to start? (self.asktrp)

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So holy shit, after reading TRP and having basically no success with women I've now come to realize how fucked in the head I've been.

My mother is a feminist and my dad was basically whipped into being her manslave. I've now realized just how fucked up my upbringing was and how it has affected my psychology when it comes to women and being a man in general.

I'm 30 now, just starting school, drive a shitty car, live in a basement suite. I work full time so that's good. But ya, I came here after going on 2 dates with this amazing woman and then she texts me saying she's "not ready". Whatever, probably B.S.. She saw a cuck and was just not attracted. I get it. I need to fix this now.

I just feel it's too late to get into this game or whether I even should? Is 30 just too old?


[–]MikeAlphaGolf 56 points57 points  (17 children)

I started at 31. Two years ago. 6 year sexless relationship with someone who hated me and I hated her.

I was already lifting and in half decent shape but came here and changed my entire mental approach.

Set my mind to the task of having multiple girlfriends and moved to the city.

A year and a half later and I've never been happier. Doing well in my job, fit, loving life.

Don't get to 40 and wish you started at 30. Start today. Join a gym and get lifting, read the sidebar and go from there.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (10 children)

Already started drinking smoothies, lifting weights, and at least trying to talk to women and getting out with them. It's great to hear from all you guys my age and up. Thanks this has been very inspiring. ( :

[–]Old_Memes_Never_Die 7 points8 points  (6 children)

I'd say beware of the smoothies, this thing is praised so much everywhere it actually makes me think it's all made up by companies to get sales.

Just like those adds where they tell you to drink milk and that it's healthy.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 5 points6 points  (5 children)

You make your own smoothies

[–]Old_Memes_Never_Die 1 point2 points  (4 children)

You still buy the fruits, beware of this industry it has very high pressure on governments.

Tv told you to drink plenty of milk, studies show that it's actually harmfull to you, same for the breakfast "most important meal of the day" well then intermittent fasting and it's benefits must just be another conspiracy.

I'm not saying smoothies are harmfull by the way, just saying that like a lot of things advertised on TV it's benefits are exagerrated.

[–]DiggerClam 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Don't smoothie. GREEN Juice. (95% vegetables, 5% fruit for flavour).

[–]SeriousAccount0 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do you have a link for some good recipes for these? I'd like to start but I think if I randomly picked out some vegetables and fruits, I would make something that tasted atrocious.

[–]htbf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Baby Spinach + avocado + bananas + milk (I like almond milk but they all work). I sometimes add dates.

[–]DiggerClam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fitjuice.com - Mike Cernovich's Juice site.

Also, google Joe Rogan's Kale Shake.

My pre-workout shake was: - 1x Large Beetroot - 1x Large Cucumber - 4x stalks of celery - 4x Medium Carrots - 1/2 of a Green cucumber - 1/2" of ginger - 1x Green apple (optional)

Pretty much any green vegetable you can juice. I tried everything (DO NOT juice onion and garlic!!!). Any vegetables + 1/2" ginger & apple will make anything taste good.

[–]Kommanderdude 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Fuck smoothies. You need chicken and brown rice. Red meat twice a week and 50 to 60 grams of fat a day from healthy sources. You need to get no less than 100% of your zinc needs a day( helps with testosterone).

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    [–]Kommanderdude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I would only use protein as a post workout. You need to get the majority of your calories and especially protein from whole food. The human body was designed to eat its food not drink it. It'll help you feel more satisfied.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Inspirational, honestly.

    [–]gamermainer 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    What do you do for work if I may ask?

    [–]MikeAlphaGolf 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    I have a government job. It's never going to make me rich, but it's noble work and I love it.

    [–]htbf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    First time I read the word "noble" in here, it makes me happy! Mind saying more?

    [–]Geoff_Uckersilf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Truly. How wonderful it when you unhinge your mind from previous misconceptions (blue pill) and have engaging and enlightening conversations.

    What a time to be alive!

    [–]DiggerClam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is me in a nutshell. "Don't get to 40 and wish you started at 30. Start today. Join a gym and get lifting, read the sidebar and go from there."

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    [–]sqerl 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Awesome. Read some of your post history. Younger guys need to see older guys doing well. You're doing great!

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      [–]sqerl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Don't we all :)

      Keep it up!

      [–]vorverk 29 points30 points  (1 child)

      Started at 34, 36 now. 3 years almost. Best 3 years of my life so far...

      The best time to plant a tree was 10 years ago. Next best time is now.

      [–]Geoff_Uckersilf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I thought it was 20 years ago?

      Just fuckin with u tho.

      [–]james8999 21 points22 points  (1 child)

      I'm in my 50s and I'm just started out. You are coming into your peak decade. Forget the sunk cost of yesterday and live for today.

      [–]Leviticus59 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I'm 57. It's never too late. I discovered NMMNG three or four years ago, and what a difference the procession through it and the reading list here has made in my life.

      [–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 18 points19 points  (3 children)

      A man's prime years SMV wise are his mid to late 30s.

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      Well thats great, i'm only 20.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      You're slacking then.

      [–]SiulaGrande 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      yeah shit he should be 30 already, wtf is wrong with him

      [–]CrayonStur 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      As it's said "the best time to start was yesterday, the next is now".

      I'm also 30, just found TRP a couple months ago and I feel I'm in constant process of growing up and (I though I would never say this) this is not even my final form!.

      [–]salezman12 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      And as Toriyama has taught us over the past 25 years, there is no such thing as a final form.

      [–]asktrpthrow123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You'll eventually become god if you keep at it.

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 10 points11 points  (5 children)

      Is 30 too late to start?

      Hahahaha.... is this a joke?

      30 is the perfect time to start. Hell 50 is a good time.

      Best thing about starting at 30: you've got a huge amount of blue pill reference experience of what not to do in life. When we say "she says this but means this" for you it is not theoretical. You have proof, you have experienced it.

      What you've experienced less of is the deep respect women have for players and alphas. You only get to experience that after getting in shape, passing a few shit tests and properly living the RP life.

      I'm 30 now, just starting school, drive a shitty car, live in a basement suite. I work full time so that's good.

      If you're healthy and financially stable you're good to start.

      But ya, I came here after going on 2 dates with this amazing woman and then she texts me saying she's "not ready". Whatever, probably B.S..

      Of course it's bullshit. She isn't going on dates and then saying "not ready" because she's aching to fuck you.

      Look at it another way. She is being polite and this isn't the real reason. Fine. What's the real reason? It's either that she's not available or she's not attracted. Women do use men for attention and free meals, and they also go on dates and then find out they're not attracted.

      It's your job as a man to find out the interested and available ones as quickly as possible. You do this by dating and escalating. If you're escalating, you're doing it right. Next job is to be as attractive as possible (hot body, well dressed, well groomed, IDGAF attitude, man-on-a-mission and escalate-to-find-out approach).

      She saw a cuck and was just not attracted. I get it. I need to fix this now.

      Cuck ... no.... unless she has children. Beta provider - possibly.

      Forget these judgments though. You don't know what's going on for her. It's either "not attracted" or "not available" and she'll never tell you which. Doesn't matter. Keep moving, keep dating, keep escalating, don't sweat it.

      [–]TRP_MushaShugyo 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      you've got a huge amount of blue pill reference experience of what not to do in life. When we say "she says this but means this" for you it is not theoretical. You have proof, you have experienced it.

      Exactly. This is why the transition was extremely quick for me. I knew it was all legit.

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      Exactly. This is why the transition was extremely quick for me. I knew it was all legit.

      Same. Everything here clicked with everything I've experienced from women.

      I'd been a little involved with the PUA scene before here, so I was awake to the possibility that FWB's is a real thing and that I could do it - something that I was previously told was impossible, women don't really do that, the only women who do that are broken low-self-esteem creatures, etc etc.

      So I'd already been on both sides of the AF/BB equation and I already saw how my FWB's treated me (free hotel rooms, easy sex, no demands) versus how my LTR's have treated me (like a third world leper).

      So TRP just clicked instantly with all my experience - still a bitter pill to swallow because of the implied impact on my future. But easy to accept as truth.

      [–]TRP_MushaShugyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      What you've experienced less of is the deep respect women have for players and alphas.

      Man, I've absolutely noticed a difference in the way women act around me since TRP, but just this past weekend was my first real experience of that deep respect you mentioned. Ran into a girl at a bar that I'd had a few slight interactions with before. Super hot, really put together- professional and young. I just held frame and lead the whole time, light kino, flew through her shit tests, teased her and made my interest known. By the end of the night she was throwing herself at me, and literally told me she loved me, several times. Yeah she was a little drunk by the end (and of course I didn't reciprocate "I love you"-- may have been a test in and of itself), but point being, it seems most women really are not used to a masculine presence, the kind TRP advocates. The crazy thing is, at this point the Alpha mindset is becoming second-nature: I didn't really have to try and this woman treated me like a fucking GOD. My former nice guy self would never think it possible.

      [–]akatsukirp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Exactly, I know down to my bones from experience this isn't BS. Women's ASD is so hard they will deny respect for players/alphas with words. A girl once couldn't tell me "I like having sex with him" she had to say "we were saving each others lives, of course I had sex with him", and why was I having this conversation with her to begin with? yea.

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      A girl once couldn't tell me "I like having sex with him"

      You'll notice women NEVER say "because I like having sex" or "because I was horny" or "because I am deeply attracted to him".

      Once you realise these obvious statements are missing, you realise that everything else they are saying about relationships and sex must be all misdirection.

      Small caveat: they'll open up to alpha men about their sexual past, desires and horniness levels and speak more honestly. Not to betas though.

      [–]SisyphosOnTop[🍰] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Golden years lie ahead of you. Men peak at around 35 and I am sure you can ride that peak long. :)

      [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      [–]AlienGiblet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Thanks

      [–]BusterVadge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      You are just hitting your prime years.... You have many years of fun and simply fucking OWNING life ahead of you.

      Make a plan. Stick to it. Read, study, test.... Keep picking yourself up when you fail, and you WILL fail. A lot. Life is hard... Fight back, and you will win.

      [–]thefightingfirst 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      The world's best known womanizer, James Bond, is (I'd day) about 40. So don't worry about it :-)

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

      33 here, just getting started. If you've been reading redpill, you should know that one of the key ideas is that there are plenty, plenty of women out there. Do NOT get wrapped up on one woman. Very un-dude.

      Also, they say that men's chances actually improve with age. We don't hit a wall. Here's to hoping.

      [–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Also, they say that men's chances actually improve with age. We don't hit a wall. Here's to hoping.

      Actually we do, but our Wall is called "Death".

      Happy hunting.

      [–]salezman12 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      My favorite thing about women is that more of them are turning 18 every day.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      alrightalrightalright

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      33 here too.... darkness warshed over me when i read your post. fuckin-A

      [–]empatheticapathetic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I always get the feeling I'm late to the game. This thread is great. Saved.

      [–]TelSaros 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Men peak in SMV at about 35-38. You are at a perfect starting point.

      I just discovered TRP two months ago after crawling out of a shit 2year relationship raising some Chad's kid. Been a serial monogamist my entire life.

      I'm 28. I used to get depressed looking back at the wasted decade I spent being the stereotypical AFC beta. Then I realized I have another decade until I even peak. Made me very optimistic for the future.

      It's never too late. Today is the first day of the rest of your life.

      [–]sqerl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      No, 30 is not too late to start. Seeing the support from the guys in this thread and the up votes they get is your sign that it's never too late.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      You're too old when you're dead. The real question is what the hell do you really want? What is it you would do with your life regardless of money, sex, or society? Discovering your own variety of masculinity is a good place to start.

      [–]Westernhagen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      No way! I am much older than that, and I wish I'd started at 30.

      I've now realized just how fucked up my upbringing was and how it has affected my psychology when it comes to women and being a man in general.

      Yup, me too, and it is tough to shake off all that conditioning, but you're in a perfect place to start (young and single). Lotta guys (like me) are trying to go RP after years of being a weak beta husband. That is RP on hard mode!

      Read and lift!

      [–]Mudpielol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      it's never too late to improve, unless you're dead, and even then, nobody knows what's the deal after you die.

      [–]budguy68 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Bro, I know guys on Theredpill well into their 40s (some even 50s) that are banging girsl in their 20 and 30s...

      I am also 35 and i have no problem hitting on younger girls.

      For you I would recommend a 30 day challenge. IE go out 30 days in a row and hit on 2-20 girls per night. You can take a day or 2 off per week.

      I know this sounds crazy/stupid.

      But you'll be surprise. Even if you suck eventually you'll find a girls who's looking for Mr Rightnow. The only 2 things to remember is Approach, and Not to give a fuck. ANd concentrate more on you having fun more.

      I have friends in their 20s too. And I admit they get laid a lot more than me. I tend to get the left overs or the sloppy seconds. But i mena even me I once in a while get to bang a semi hot chick. IE a 7 or an 8.

      [–]room_303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Too late to start what? Too old for what?

      Men in their 20's don't even register on a women's radar, their smv is almost non existent, you are pretty much riding the curve as it should be.

      Just don't live for sex and women, live for your life and doing what makes you feel good and satisfied.

      [–]dylanrockz2002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      not really mate, my mum is well fit (im not saying this like in an incest way just that i can see she's fit and thats why blokes at school always tell me they boned her) and she started dating this dentist called nigel who is well older than you and shes crazy about him, i have to go to my mate callum's house when hes over because i dont want to hear them boning

      [–]Refigerator1043 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I was in a similar situation in my late 20s and was also worried that it was too late for me to start. Then I started thinking about how I've got about 50 more years on this rock and nothing to lose so may as well put in effort and see what happens.

      I got plastic surgery, started lifting and working toward becoming a CPA. Now I'm 31 and almost done with CPA exams, am much better looking and more confident. I had similar concerns about it being "too late" but looking back now I realize how horrible I would feel if I was 31 now and had never taken action back in my late 20s. The time is going to pass regardless so you may as well put in effort and see if your life improves, there's nothing to lose.

      [–]GuitarHero07 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's always quite surprising how much you can achieve in a year but how little you can achieve in a day. Just make a plan to improve each and every day and stick to it religiously.

      I would suggest reading Red Pill books such as the 48 Laws of Power, the Rational Male, Art of War, Millionaire Fastlane. Start a serious strength program. Commit to meditating daily and also commit to improving your finances. Learn a thing or two about fashion.

      I'm 32. Although I got started earlier than you, I have more success with women than I ever did before.

      [–]Merwebb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Dude just try and then go to the main sub an do a field report