So every so often there seems to be an influx of posts and comments that will walk the fine line of bashing TRP. This is happening once again and as a frequent poster and EC, I'm extremely tired of answering the same, unoriginal questions and defending the philosophy. I hope this post clears up questions some of you may have out there. If I missed any, feel free to add in the comments.
The Red Pill hates women, how could women support it? The Red Pill does not hate women. The Red Pill explains who we are as humans and as specific genders in general at our most base instincts. While some of the harsh truths may not be flattering to women, they aren't flattering to men either. If men were perfect there would be no need for TRP because men wouldn't be beta-ing out (read: failing) at life. TRP helps rehabilitate men and women alike, cut through all the crap the feminist agenda has been feeding us our whole lives and reconnect with our natural instincts and purposes.
The men on TRP have a phase of anger that they go through when they “swallow the red pill”. Women typically have a guilt phase. We encourage women not to visit TRP because the men working through the anger phase obviously can be abrasive and offensive. They need a space to do that in. Let them be! Not every RP guy is like that, it just seems the norm because of the space you’re visiting; in reality it is a small percentage of the population.
TRP thinks women are below men
Men and women are different and have different roles. Neither gender’s role is more important than the other and neither gender is better than the other. Men are just better at certain things than women are and women are better at certain things than men are. (IN GENERAL Obviously there are exceptions to everything!)
That doesn’t mean women can’t hold jobs to be truly RPW or we can’t handle the finances or whatever. That actually has nothing to do with anything. It does seem to be somewhat normal that many RPW aspire to be homemakers but I believe that has to do with the fact that RPW aligns with traditional/conservative values/families and not because it is an RPW “rule” itself.
No one ever said men were better than women. Yes, again, I’m well aware that there are some less than flattering posts about women on TRP. I’m sure some of the men over there do think they’re better but they’re the exception and not the rule.
RPW don’t want a RP man*
This is another one of those phrases that gets repeated so much it loses its meaning. RPW do not want a guy that is a player. Some of the men at TRP use their RP skills to spin plates, some have decided to never marry, some have decided to just get laid as much as possible. That’s OK! That’s what they have decided to do with their sexual strategy. RPW do not want to do that. Instead we want to vet a long term partner. So when people say “RPW don’t wan a RP man” what they really mean to say is they don’t want the guys who spin plates and sleep around.
But just as much as an RPW wouldn’t want an RP guy like that, the RP guy isn’t looking for an RPW - he’s looking for a ONS - something he won’t get from us! I was asked a few days ago how and why I would identify with a network where the men are people I wouldn’t date but that isn’t true. I just wouldn’t date one of those RP guys. There are a few regular posters here that give great advice and seem (albeit while just on the internet) like they would be solid relationship material. One of our own mods is a man and gasp! RP!!!!! But guess what, he’s admitted to being in relationships before.
There are plenty of RP men who want relationships. Those are the RP men women want to date.
I believe the part that gets twisted in people’s minds is the “alpha” part. If a guy is too far alpha one way, he will only be looking out for himself and thus would not make a good long term partner. However even this belief is a generalization because there are some men who sit high on the alpha spectrum that are family men. So the simple answer to this particular “rule” and its exception is, vet your men, ladies.
RPW is all about how to improve for the man but what is the man doing to improve?
That’s a great question. RPW can’t answer that for you though. The only person you have control over in this life is you. You have the power to change and RPW (or TRP) can help. The idea is that if you change enough for your SO, you may inspire change in them by motivating them to be better. Maybe that will work, maybe it won’t. There is always the chance that the guy you’re dating won’t step up and lead or won’t be motivated by your hard work to change or won’t do anything. Guess what? Leave him. He’s not captain material and your SMV/RMW is too high to be wasting your time with someone like that. It’s that simple.
In conclusion, TRP and RPW work with the same theories but have many different goals and ways of reaching those goals. But that’s ok! You don’t have to use all the strategies and theories in your life. My RPW journey looks much different than any other user’s. That’s OK! We also have different goals in life and different beliefs.
Not every RPW wants children or is a Christian. I am. That doesn’t mean the strategies haven’t improved our lives. Maybe there’s a guy at TRP who thinks women suck and are only good for sleeping with. That’s OK! I won’t be his friend and I certainly won’t sleep with him but he can do as he pleases.
There’s also men over there that, as I said before, are in relationships. There’s a vast majority of people and ideas across TRP network. If there’s a particular train of thought, idea, theory or tenant you don’t like or don’t agree with, don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Just don’t use whatever you don’t agree with.
I hope this has cleared up a few popular misconceptions for some users. I expect there to be debate in the comments and possibly even lively debate but can we please all be respectful of each other. You can be direct without being rude. I’ve noticed some people forgetting their manners and being excessively and unnecessarily aggressive lately and I for one have grown weary of it.
Edited: formatting and clarity on key ideas