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The Sexodus, Part 1: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society (X-Post TRP) (breitbart.com)

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[–]AerobusTRP MOD[S] 27 points28 points  (33 children)

All currently single RPW need to read this. Married RPW can read it as well, it won't hurt, but single RPW will benefit more from reading this.

To all the single RPW: if you want to get married, you need to prove that you are better than most women.

There are many choice quotes that accurately touch upon the issues that men of the millennial generation face. The reason why so many men drop out of out of the dating game is because "it's just not worth it" and "women are not women anymore."

Social commentators, journalists, academics, scientists and young men themselves have all spotted the trend: among men of about 15 to 30 years old, ever-increasing numbers are checking out of society altogether, giving up on women, sex and relationships and retreating into pornography, sexual fetishes, chemical addictions, video games and, in some cases, boorish lad culture, all of which insulate them from a hostile, debilitating social environment created, some argue, by the modern feminist movement.

This is very true. Did you know that about 37% of the internet is made up of pornographic material?. Video games can be amazingly addictive. How many girls here have dated men that play skyrim, League of Legends, Dota 2, World of Warcraft, for hours on end, without even taking a break to glance, hug, touch, kiss, or be affectionate with you in some other way?

Women today are schooled in victimhood, taught to be aggressively vulnerable and convinced that the slightest of perceived infractions, approaches or clumsy misunderstandings represents "assault," "abuse" or "harassment." That may work in the safe confines of campus, where men can have their academic careers destroyed on the mere say-so of a female student.

Women have no idea what it's like to constantly think about in the back of the mind whether some crazy bitch is going to falsely accuse you of rape and destroy your life. File this under the "women aren't women anymore" category. Enough said.

Boyishness and boisterousness have come to be seen as "problematic," with girls' behaviour a gold standard against which these defective boys are measured. When they are found wanting, the solution is often drugs.

After mentioning this, the author talks about how 1/7 boys are diagnosed with ADHD. The importance of this quote is that shows how early a boy is punished for being nothing more than a boy. As the article describes, this influences how many men go to college, which affects the dating market, as most women won't date men 'beneath' them due to hypergamy.

One professional researcher in his late thirties, about whom I have been conversing on this topic for some months, puts it spicily: "For the past, at least, 25 years, I've been told to do more and more to keep a woman. But nobody's told me what they're doing to keep me. "I can tell you as a heterosexual married male in management, who didn’t drop out of society, the message from the chicks is: 'It's not just preferable that you should fuck off, but imperative. You must pay for everything and make everything work; but you yourself and your preferences and needs can fuck off and die.'"

And this is the message most men are getting from most women today. No one gives a shit about us. Don't pity us. We're used to it. We're men. We can handle the reality that no one gives a shit. But if you want a man to actually commit to you, you need to give him a reason to. So many women think that all their job entails is showing up, looking pretty, and having sex. For a one night stand? Sure. For an long term relationship? Good luck.

Men are constantly told they should be delicate, sensitive fellow travellers on the feminist path. But the same women who say they want a nice, unthreatening boyfriend go home and swoon over simple-minded, giant-chested, testosterone-saturated hunks in Game of Thrones.

AF/BB. Women think they know what they want, but of course, they don't.

"They've done a cost-benefit analysis and realised it is a bad deal. They know that if they invest in a marriage and children, a woman can take all of that away from them on a whim.

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they know that they can be fired, expelled or arrested based more or less on the word of any woman. They know they are basically guilty until proven innocent in most situations."

Are two of my favorite quotes.

But you want to know what the best part is:

And we'll discover that the real victims of modern feminism are, of course, women themselves, who have been left lonelier and less satisfied than they have ever been.

Stay tuned for part 2 ladies. Because feminism has hurt you more than us. We can withstand it (as much as we hate it).

TL;DR This is a great article that I suggest all RPW read, but I implore all single RPW to read in order for them to understand what the heck men are going through. Don't be alarmed if you meet a man who doesn't trust you. Don't be alarmed if a man never wants to marry, or doesn't want to commit. Understand the reasons why men hesitate, and become a better woman by internalizing RPW ideology.

If you don't have time for the entire article, at least read the quotes I picked out. It gives a good picture of the article.

[–]-peppermintEndorsed Woman 16 points17 points  (13 children)

Don't be alarmed if you meet a man who doesn't trust you. Don't be alarmed if a man never wants to marry, or doesn't want to commit.

this resonates with me a lot.

when dating I met a depressingly high amount of men(25-30) who decided they "didn't want to get married. don't see the point. just a legal thing." and after reading your post it just makes me feel that these are men who are being described in your article.

it's worth mentioning that I didn't get the level of commitment from a man until after I started following RPW advice, even if at first it was counter to my then, at the time, ingrained feminist university teaching!

a side story? a good friend of mine, she and I were spending sometime together recently and she mentioned how her man is "like a big child" and that you "have to watch him and make sure he isn't messing up" and while it may sound shocking, I wasn't shocked, this is such a common thing women(at least women I know) talk about.

[–]AerobusTRP MOD[S] 16 points17 points  (11 children)

And the thing is these men who are dropping out of the game aren't RP. Most of them have not been exposed to RP ideas, and most of them have not heard of the Mens' Rights Movement. These are regular men, simply using their brains and deciding that it isn't worth it anymore.

[–]MagicJuggler 10 points11 points  (5 children)

The successful videogames are addictive by design. Just one more turn, one more block, one more instant payoff. You can quantify your gains, artificial though they may be. You can either look up a reference manual, FAQs, or even check the source code in some cases.

Women require long-term maintenance, your standing is not tied to Boolean logic, and looking up her references will get you labeled a stalker.

Is it any wonder that videogames can be a powerful snare for the isolated, the introverted, and the insecure?

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Is it any wonder that videogames can be a powerful snare for the isolated, the introverted, and the insecure?

It's a need for escapism -- a person can slip away into the fantasy world offered by things and effectively halt the anxieties of their own lives. Television is just as bad...worse. Many folks plop in front of that for hours and hours. Obesity rises, the home is ignored, folks believe it's "real" and even formulate their lifestyle around it. "You go gurrrrrl", "you need a HERO not a zero", "everyone is a STAR" is the new mantra. It's sad and scary.

  • "By first grade, most children have spent the equivalent of three school years in front of the TV set." - Newton Minnow

[–]guisar 3 points4 points  (3 children)

You presume that it's a snare and somehow less satisfying than whatever it is that women are supposed to offer? I think that's the nub of the issue. Everyone prefers whatever provides the most satisfaction and the least risk of pain; there's no inherent preference for women and deciding to opt out of the hassle shouldn't bring your social judgementalism into play- you have no right to make that proclamation.

[–]aguy01 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The problem is these guys aren't truly happy. People need to have close interpersonal relationships that include physical affection, whether its at an mma gym with some dudes or in bed with a girl. People that resign themselves to virtual activities don't have the same chemical happiness as someone with a fulfilling social life. These guys are happier than the alternative, which is the frustration of social life with a bluepill mindset, but they would be happier if they went redpill and engaged life head on, and for that reason it is appropriate to disapprove of such a lifestyle.

[–]guisar 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's debateable but absolutely the case if they found a mate (not necessarily heterosexual) who makes them happy. I 'hought ops point was that the legal and relationship landscape is such that many young guys just don't see good odds. My son is an example, tall, good looking, ripped, multi lingual, perfect ivy leage education (studying in Denmark) who dates there but wil have nothing to do with women he met in dc wwhere he was. In Denmark, he points out, there's no marriage pressure or theatrics. Its completely different he finds.

[–]aguy01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your son is far above average then. He is not involuntarily celibate because nobody wants to have sex with him, he can actually afford to disqualify women based on their behavior. Most men (about 60%) are frustrated with dating, and many of that group will be incel and drop out altogether, because it is humiliating for them to attempt dating.

[–]FleetingWishEndorsed Contributor 10 points11 points  (2 children)

My SO likes to tell a story from a wedding we went to. All the girls ran up excitedly for the bouquet toss, but when it came to the garter toss... All the men literally hid. Not a single one wanted to come up. These weren't MGTOW or RP men, just regular run of the mill guys. It's not like they thought they would "catch marriage" if they caught the garter, but the idea of marriage was something that they were, at the very least, not excited about, and at the most, literally afraid of.

[–]-peppermintEndorsed Woman 4 points5 points  (1 child)

that would be so awkward as a bride to have your groom take your garter off and everyone just sort of walk over to the shrimp cocktail

[–]TheMagnuson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Has happened at almost every wedding I've been to.

[–]TheToastTotEndorsed Contributor 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Great read, especially this part:

Men are constantly told they should be delicate, sensitive fellow travellers on the feminist path. But the same women who say they want a nice, unthreatening boyfriend go home and swoon over simple-minded, giant-chested, testosterone-saturated hunks in Game of Thrones.

This. Women have no idea what they want. All of my female friends that have the sensitive, nice guy boyfriends are so unhappy with their relationship. They're not sexually attracted to them and push them around, which leads to the man resenting them.

Part of me wants the "sexodus" to happen. Men should just pump and dump, and not get married. They should put their foot down and say enough is enough and stop enabling these horrible behaviors in women. It's time to turn the tables around and make the women do the hard work, not them.

[–]mscleverclocks 11 points12 points  (1 child)

What men should do is take their power back. They should stop sleeping around with these selfish, sluty, entitled girls who provide them with nothing but a moment of instant gratification.... Which then turns into prison sentences and alimony.

Men are biologically our leaders, decision makers, protectors, and providers. In turn, we are their supporters, cheerleaders, stress relievers, and nurturers. If women aren't doing that, it means men aren't demanding it anymore which is clearly stated by the article.

Men need to stop giving attention and validating this feminist type of behavior. They need to come together and gain their confidence back. They need to pass laws that put women back in their place and end this perpetuated victim mentality that is destroying families and our society in general.

Sorry for the rant, but this upsets me so much! I have an amazing man, who works his damn hardest to make me happy, and I do the same for him. But to see so many other men beaten down by women justifying their shitty behavior under the guise of equality, is heartbreaking.

We are already way past equal in this country (the US) and many other Western ones. I am a woman. I work, I have a college degree, no one tells me what to wear, i have the right to vote (why I have no idea since most female decisions come purely from emotion and that has no business in government), and i can choose who I marry. If i need protection, I have the right to carry a gun, just like everyone else. I can be single, or I can raise a family without the fear that my children will be taken away from me. Where exactly are women being oppressed in the western world?

[–]FuzzyKittenIsFuzzy 2 points3 points  (4 children)

About boys and ADHD: animal studies were so clear that screen time for small children changes brain development and causes ADHD that the studies couldn't be done with humans. Most of the increasing diagnosis rate is because of this, not because of schools being set up for girls. They are set up for girls, but the ADHD issue being attributed to feminism is actually prevent some families from being OK with treating a child who really needs it, thinking the diagnosis is just a reflection of society and not their child. There are kids medicated for adult convenience but that's far more rare in most areas. In my career I've gotten to talk to hundreds of kids about what they think of their ADHD meds and almost all of them love it because their social awareness improved and their social behavior followed, helping them make more friends and make decisions they were proud of instead of snap decisions.

Females with ADHD often fly under the radar because the diagnostic criteria catch boys better, and for guys like my husband who truly have a problem, that may be a good thing since it can make it easier for him to show his doctor that he really does need meds. It isn't all about boys being bad at school. Sorry if I sound defensive, I just have a lot of feelings for all the little boys I've talked to, and for DH too.

[–]aguy01 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Diet has also been shown to cause ADD symptoms. People have demonstrated complete reversal of ADD symptoms in children by removing certain food dyes and preservatives from their diet.

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    [–]aguy01 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    http://www.feingold.org/Research/adhd.php

    There are dozens. Where did you get that information? I know for a fact that screen time changes brain patterns, but I've also found that dietary ingredients play a massively significant role in mental state. The extent of diet's influence on a person's mind is one of the most understated things in the medical community. If you go beyond sexual strategy and take the redpill for society, then you will learn that academic/medical journals are not authorities on what works, they are authorities on what will and won't make themselves money.

    [–]lucysplainin 3 points4 points  (8 children)

    This article hit on something that's very personally interesting to me - the trouble boys are facing in school. This also isn't a new issue either, beginning in 1870 female highschool graduates started outnumbering male high school graduates in the US, and this lasted until the 1950s. I'm currently studying to become a math teacher and it's something I experience nearly everyday and it's honestly very baffling. I work with middle school students (age 13-14) in a low income school and while I rarely experience any behavioral issues among the boys motivating them at all seems nearly impossible. I've been planning my lessons specifically to interest the boys (i.e., taking them out to the track and having them do timed runs, developing projects where they build things, competitive games, lots of spatial reasoning, connections to video games and sports, ect) and nothing works. The girls on the other hand, who give me loads of headaches with physical fighting, profanity and constant talking, are much more motivated to actually participate. I know this is all anecdotal but the only possible explanation I've found is that the girls have greater "grade anxiety" - even if they don't care about what we're learning they are going to do at least the minimum because they can't bear to fail. I wish I could find more research on this - in my degree program there is a huge push to design kinetic and project based lessons, but I just haven't seen it be effective at all.

    [–]Azzmo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    If there were enough other teachers like you - and if they'd started with these boys at a younger age - I'd be more optimistic. You're amazing for trying unconventional things to help these kids and I really hate to dissuade you from trying (since I may well be wrong) but based on my experience in school the damage was long done by that age. Being forced to sit still / told to shut up / told to stop acting naturally / shamed / staring out the window wishing I could go outside and getting in trouble for not paying attention / watching my parents be told I was too wild from the age of 4 / feeling like a disappointment to my parents...it all pretty much stifled me emotionally. Apathy replaced curiosity, since apathy was the only way to avoid getting into trouble.

    This is what we do to young males. By the age of 12-13 there are a lot of hidden scars that your peers have gauged into their psyches. I wish that the unique things you're trying to do were standard operating procedure for males from the start.

    As a side note: I think this is one of the two largest problems in American society, since it's shaping the behavior of half the population and since it's stifling so many people (the other issue being campaign donations diverting politicians from working for the people to now working for the corporation that pays them the most).

    [–]lucysplainin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That is definitely one of the challenges about teaching that age, the kids have already learned to "play the game of school" so to speak :( There has been a big push at least at my university to offer students an entirely different learning style, but it's tricky to implement and very time consuming. I'm just starting my career but I really hope to see a lot of change in the years ahead, and hopefully for the better.

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      [–]lucysplainin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      That is a wonderful thing of your father to do! I definitely agree that a lack of role models/masculine presence has a huge effect. I had to write a paper recently on standardized test scores (yuck) and one of the factors that predicted low scores for all students regardless of family income was a single parent family. It's a very touchy subject and I personally know many amazing single moms, but it's very hard to give a boy everything he needs without some kind of trustworthy male role model in the picture.

      [–]MikeMangum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      i'm not involved in education at all, but my opinion is that boys have no real role models in these tricky years and this is huge problem.

      It's more than that. Men need a reason to work. If there were no women, the vast majority of men would simply sit on their asses doing nothing. The need to build wealth and status for the purpose of attracting a mate is why men work. The standard, collective life script of go to school, start a career, meet a woman, get married, have children, take 2 weeks of vacation a year, grow old together was a very strong motivator for men. That standard life script is no longer really valid.

      [–]SirNemesis 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      This article hit on something that's very personally interesting to me - the trouble boys are facing in school. This also isn't a new issue either, beginning in 1870 female highschool graduates started outnumbering male high school graduates in the US, and this lasted until the 1950s.

      Whoa! I'll google this but do you have a source for this? I'll add it to my growing list of social indicators (such as mass violence, income inequality, single-motherhood, etc.) that coincides with this time frame.

      [–]lucysplainin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I learned about it during a lecture, but I found it here and here. From what I've read there was a big push to educate women at this time so that they might raise sons with strong american values and what not. Also around this time reforms were made to draw education away from the rote memorization approach that had been the standard in schools previously. That would really make sense based off of what I've seen in the classroom - the boys tend to do much better with "skill and drill" lessons that require a lot of memorization/procedural practice and really struggle with abstract conceptualization and proof. I think it would be interesting to research the performance of boys in mathematics during the "Back to Basics" movement in the 1970s that stressed the procedural skills over conceptual ones.

      [–]Luke666808g 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I want to inject a little hope into the discussion, we've never had in the history of man-kind, as EFFICIENT a meme transferring/copying/re-writing/deleting technology as the internet, have you people noticed how quickly things are moving? I predict feminism will be an emaciated husk of it's former self in less than 10 years.

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      [–]AerobusTRP MOD[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      I can reach out to other women by throwing in small comments about the dynamics observed around me on campus so that they too can realize that something is wrong.

      That will get you nowhere.

      I can work on myself and encourage my female friends to do the same.

      That will get you somewhere.

      Still, it isn't enough to stop all this madness, and I'm so very lost as to what else can be done.

      Your job as a single RPW isn't to stop all this madness. It's to understand it, and in doing so, understand men. That way, when you go out and seek LTRs with men, you'll actually be able to understand them, unlike your feminist friends. By understanding them, and using the knowledge you gain from RPW, you will be able to attract and keep a high value man.

      RPW techniques can get you far. But if a woman can actually understand the plight of the modern man, appreciate its seriousness, and provide comfort and reassurance to her man that she won't behave as badly as so many women do these days, that will be a huge plus in getting a man to commit to you. And, as we know, getting commitment from a high value man is the foundation of this sub.

      [–]TheMagnuson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      As a male, I would say this:

      Just work on yourself and try to share your knowledge and experience with women around you. No one person can change the world, so don't put that on yourself.

      There are women out there who "get it" and those who don't, same thing with guys. From my male perspective, I don't see the issue as there being an attack on men or masculinity. Yeah, you have extremist out there who maybe that's their agenda, but in no way do I think that's the average woman's attitude or approach towards men and relationships.

      I think what the issue is, is that in an attempt by the feminist movement to try and create a more equal, more fair society, a ton of focus was put on women's issues. Which is fine to an extent, because to deal with issues you must first acknowledge them, then inform, then work to resolve. The problem however is that in an attempt to raise awareness and draw a focus to those issues in an attempt to resolve them, mens issues have been completely ignored.

      So I think really what would be best for society is to move to center and acknowledge that both women and men have various, sometimes differing and sometimes even conflicting needs and wants in relationships and that a relationship should be about seeking balance, to have fairness and happiness for both parties involved. I just feel that as things stand now, relationships are generally focused on and favoring women and fulfilling their needs and desires and that for men, we basically have to settle for "hey, I'm here" from women.

      [–]freshairee 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      What a great read! I've shared this article to so many of my friends already. It's worrisome that this may be our future. As a single RPW I'm doing my best to change the tide. Do you think sending our children to same sex schools would make difference?

      [–]AerobusTRP MOD[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I've shared this article to so many of my friends already.

      Wow. How's that going for you? I wouldn't be surprised if some of them don't remain friends with you.

      Be careful with whom you speak about RP.

      Do you think sending our children to same sex schools would make difference?

      I attended co-ed K-12 education, and currently attend a co-ed University. However, I went to a really good school district, one of the top 10 high schools in the state, and a top university for the major I'm studying. That said, the teachers I had were not extremely biased towards females simply because they had vaginas. From what I've heard from men on RP, single-sex schools for young boys made a world of difference and encouraged positive masculinity in them.

      I think at the higher education level the focus should be for what you are studying, not single-sex or coed.

      [–]freshairee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      So far I haven't been shunned! Haha I'm fortunate enough to have more traditional friends who share my views. But with non RPW I tend to tread lightly when it comes to mentioning RPW ideas.

      [–]AerobusTRP MOD[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Also don't forget to read the comments on the article.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Excellent article, thanks for sharing!