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The Red Pill Room: Dear Feminists: This Is Why You Are In Trouble (theredpillroom.blogspot.com)

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[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

If a huge chunk of people misinterpret the message you're trying to get across it's not their fault for being stupid, it's your fault for not communicating your message coherently.

I saw this all the time in college... If the entire audience doesn't get it, it doesn't mean the audience is defective....

[–]DianaDewAsmr 9 points10 points  (12 children)

You've attacked male sexuality with bloodthirsty abandon, belittling the "male gaze" and objecting to "objectification

I've noticed that men who are criticized for objectification are ugly ones who give unwanted attentions and goodlooking/rich ones who value beautiful women (ignoring the woman who is crying "Objectificator pig")

[–]niczar 7 points8 points  (11 children)

I still don't really understand what "objectification" means.

[–]DevilishRogue 16 points17 points  (9 children)

It means being attracted to an external appearance without due consideration to the individual as a person. In other words the way all initial attraction works until you get to know someone.

[–]DianaDewAsmr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And I'd add the bonus in relationships (and lots of other things too) women get when they are young

[–]squishles 3 points4 points  (7 children)

The part that always struck me as dumb is what is someone supposed to do. Spy on them for a year and get to know all their personality quirks fall in love with them before saying hello =/ nnnnnnope

oo yea I forgot the be attractive loophole. lol

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

wow you really missed the head of the nail!

[–]squishles 1 point2 points  (4 children)

It's just not an idea that scales to the extreme well. Pick someone you want to get to know, all you have to go on is how they look. There's no way to not have that come into consideration, at that stage their is nothing else to that person.

Even if you do know them what are you supposed to do, completely body disassociate them, are we floating thoughts now.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

objectification is in the context of a man's sexual desire. obviously men want women because of the sexual attraction, and therefore attractive women are highly desired and approached. but objectification of females is taking it a step further and failing to acknowledge any other value she might have other than her looks, i.e. not seeing her as a human at all -- thus the term objectification.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

what kind of context are you referring to? in the end, context shouldn't matter -- women want to be seen as a person with merits beyond their sexual value. one should be able to acknowledge & appreciate both, but often times that seems to be not the case.

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[–]rpkarma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my opinion, you're making the same mistake the feminists are when it comes to communication here. The dictionary definition of objectification is exactly as you described... But how it's wielded in the real world is different. In my experience and that of most men, "objectification" is used as a catch-all for any sexual attraction on a males behalf prompted by external beauty. That's what the article is pointing out and attacking.

[–]DianaDewAsmr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it means two things in the minds of people I hear

  • if an ugly guy looks at a woman in a sexual way she can feel disgusted and tell him to stop seeing her as just boobs and ass (as if a stranger owes you anything)

  • if a high SMV guy talks about a young good looking woman and her attributes in presence of women who aren't as good as her he is seen as "objectifying her".

[–]Neuroentropic_Force 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is an incredibly well written synopsis of many of the sociological factors and rationales involved in the troubles of modern feminism.

It is a little harshly termed and a bit over the top, but not in bad taste, quite fairly so actually.

Preach!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"You've attacked male sexuality with bloodthirsty abandon, belittling the "male gaze" and objecting to "objectification" - without understanding that objectification is as important to male sexuality as emotional context is to female sexuality."

What is objectification in this context?