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“Keep your mouth shut” A Letter from a Feminist Reader and My Response--margeryandtheman.wordpress.com (margeryandtheman.wordpress.com)

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[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Well done, Margery! I especially love point 2 about SAHMs. I think it's so incredibly important for children to be raised by a responsible adult who loves them, and isn't just being paid to make sure they don't die. I think Margery hit the nail on the head with that point. It takes strength to face feminists who sneer at your choices, to be on-call for your family 24/7, to not allow yourself to become lazy, and to be patient.

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    [–]RedPillWife_June2014 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Why do you feel so threatened by someone else's choice that has nothing to do with you?

    This, ohhh 10,000 times, this! "Women have the right to choose, as long as it's what Feminism would choose."

    [–]BeaNoemi 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Excellent article! Thanks for posting :)

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Thanks, but /u/_wingnut_ posted this article!

    [–]BeaNoemi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yeah sorry the Alien Blue app got the best of me.

    [–]sg92i 8 points9 points  (6 children)

    I know that the 1950s are remembered for decadence and over-consumption, but the truth of the matter is that today's society consumes so much more, in almost every respect, that if you were to time warp a random person out of the 1950s and bring them to today, they would probably accuse us of gluttony. Contrast the two eras in terms of things like house sizes, electricity use, in the amount of trash thrown away per year, amount of food consumed or wasted [see: portion size bloat], and it becomes quite clear that it is our current society consumes more & wastes more than any other time in history.

    I question whether having two adults per household working is actually better for the environment. Consider the implications here; you're doubling the amount of resources being used to commute [since very few people car pool in our society & public transit is usually not practical for professionals unless you happen to live in one of a finite amount of dense urban centers]. It means the household having twice as large of a work-appropriate wardrobe, twice as much work-related travel, twice as much in work-related activities [i.e. after-hours happy hours]... and then if the household splits up because of divorce [which is statistically more likely than not after all] it is reasonable to expect it would result in both adults owning separate houses [thereby further increasing consumption exponentially].

    Even if we ignore those things for argument's shake, can we even assume that someone working a professional job is helping the world? Plenty of jobs out there do not exist to help people [i.e. healthcare, education, the sciences] but simply to further support the over-consumption that our economy revolves around.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    On what planet are the 50s known for decadence?

    [–]tradmarriageftw 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Many people believe this because it was after the war (a time of rationing) and things seemed plentiful. It was a time when people could finally own a big house, two cars in the garage, etc. It was also when the term 'teenager' as we know it was born, before they were working and helping their families and in the 1950s they were seen as between adult and child.

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      [–]tradmarriageftw 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Prosperous probably fits better.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      "Decadence" has always the Marxist mischaracterization of prosperity under capitalism

      [–]SirNemesis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Big lawns and white picket fences is the view parroted by today's revisionists (who seem to have mixed up baby boomers with adults in the 50s).

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      What a nutjob (not Margery, but the feminist)!

      I cannot fathom why on earth some women, who live in a modern society where SHE HAS A CHOICE, don't get that being a stay at home mother is an HONOR and a GIFT!

      As a man, I don't do my career because I want to, I do it because I have to. The woman gets to stay at home to be with her kids a lot more than I do. That's not a complaint. That acknowledgement that it's a gift. Not a curse. I accept my role as a man that's fine. It just pisses me off when....

      Clueless fucking feminists would rather spend their lives in the corporate world that's dreadful, robot-like, life sucking, stuck in cubicle farms with grey walls, elevator music pumping through the speakers, drowning in 100+ work emails each day about some BS excel spreadsheet, filled with mundane bullshit PowerPoint meetings with people talking like Charlie Brown's teacher, and conference calls with dumbasses who are too stupid to understand "DON'T PUT THE CONF CALL ON HOLD"....

      than spend it with their kids, because corporate life gives you "meaning" and staying at home is "lazy and meaningless".

      Which group of women are setting women back? hmmmm. Fucking idiots too stupid to realize they have a GIFT (being a stay at home mom). ENJOY IT!

      [–]DianaDewAsmr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I wish i could like this comment 100 times.

      [–]Skratt 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Y'all see how she didn't come back after that xD Whew, she got burnt.

      Reading the letter was painful, though. Just a whole bunch of "nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh nyeh." Shut. Up!

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      In which our ex-mod and erstwhile companion Margery eviscerates a "proud feminist" critic

      [–]TheOpposingView1 Star 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      It is fascinating how Feminism views ideology as a zero-sum game. This woman seems to feel that another woman choosing to embrace traditional roles poses a direct threat to her feminist lifestyle. Why?

      In the history of feminism, when has it ever been told "no"? From the moment of its inception, it took about 50 years to get it the legal equality it ostensibly demands. Since then, it's been on a propaganda campaign--sorry, "educational venture"--to change how people think about themselves, all while appropriating the brand built by their law changing foremothers. But they are not the same at all; one changed laws (right or wrong) to give "equal-opportunity" and the other is demanding women utilize the options made available by the legal changes.

      Point being, modern feminists treat non-feminists like a danger, like a threat, like a growing enemy force. Why? One possibility is that feminists, who are absolutely willing to force people to accept their world view through law, fully believe non-feminists are eternally waiting to do the same. On the other hand, perhaps they are justified in that fear? Do you think traditional values would force itself onto them if it could?

      [–]margerym 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      In the history of feminism, when has it ever been told "no"? From the moment of its inception, it took about 50 years to get it the legal equality it ostensibly demands. Since then, it's been on a propaganda campaign--sorry, "educational venture"--to change how people think about themselves, all while appropriating the brand built by their law changing foremothers. But they are not the same at all; one changed laws (right or wrong) to give "equal-opportunity" and the other is demanding women utilize the options made available by the legal changes.

      This.

      [–]HerbiMama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Nicely put! Can't actually believe how rude that woman was. shakes head my gosh she sounds bitter and unhappy with life!

      [–]Microfuzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Feminism as it stands now does not support women like me. I’d explain how and why but all you have to do is reread your email to me. Feminists themselves do not speak for all women nor do they support equality for all women. “Keep your mouth shut” Ring any bells?

      So amazingly articulated.

      [–]810809 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Feminism is about liberating women from oppresive social structures and legal/economic barriers not hating! Let me prove that by hating you because you don't fit into the social structure I want to prevail and also belittle, demean and disrespect you for what I don't even acknowledge as your choice!

      I for one love it when feminists spin out of control and show their true face. The first wave was about smashing barriers and giving women the same rights and opportunities as men. Todays SJW wave is far, very far removed from that idea. Todays "feminism" is nothing but acting like huge victims in order to restructure society for even more advantages and more pussy-passes. It is and ideology of hate, shaming, belittling, hysteria and fear-mongering for the ultimate goal of complete and utter hypoagency. Karen Straughan has a good video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBgcjtE0xrE

      I will support any womens rights activist, they focus on real and practical problems that hinder women from having all the rights and socioeconomic opportunites as anyone else. Feminism is not that, not today.

      http://i.imgur.com/H6O6YYX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2PtLUUg.jpg

      [–]homespunmama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I am going to save this article to my bookmarks, so I can just link to it when I don't feel like arguing with anyone. THANK YOU...