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METAAxioms of RPW (self.RedPillWomen)

submitted by LuckyLittleStarModerator | Lil'Star[M]

The opening of the rules have allowed for more diverse discussion here, which we welcome with open arms. However, there are distinguishing features of RPW that make it “RPW”, rather than any generic relationship subreddit. These features are the broad umbrella for which all posts must fall under, and within these very broad constraints is where we allow disagreement and discussion. The understanding of what these things are will keep discussion on topic and prevent the subreddit from becoming a debate sub to defend basic principles.

Here are the official axioms of RPW:

  • The belief that if you want to have a good partner, you have to be a good partner. This means having some understanding of what men want in a partner, and in particular, what your man wants in a partner, and then using that information to become the best version of yourself you can be. For this reason, self-improvement and self-awareness are fundamental components of RPW.

  • Truth is more important than feelings and truth is measured by results.

  • The understanding men and women have different natures and preferences. They have different strengths and weaknesses, and different sexual strategies.

  • The fundamental SMP transaction is, Women are gatekeepers of sex, men are gatekeepers of commitment.

  • The acceptance that we are all flawed. In that umbrella we hold the belief that many red pill terms are largely true about us. AWALT, hypergamy, shit testing, etc. However the meaning of these terms is open for debate.

  • The idea that relationships generally work better if the man is in charge. It is a preferred relationship to both the man and the woman. This is due to the inherent dominant nature of men and submissive nature of women.

  • The ultimate goal for a woman is a long lasting relationship with a man who she loves, respects, and is attracted to.

  • Every woman ultimately bears agency for her outcome and satisfaction with life. One of her most important responsibilities is choosing a man worthy of her trust and devotion.

This list is open to discussion. If you feel that I have missed something, or you want to discuss the merits of anything here, that is welcome! However keep in mind that I will not be able to add any suggestions that I feel are not broad enough, or don't represent the community.


[–]i_have_a_semicolon 2 points3 points  (2 children)

What about something about self awareness and self improvement? I always felt this was a core piece of RPW that helped us rise above things like hypergamous, AWALT, and shit-testing. Also help us in the goal of finding a long term partner!

[–]LuckyLittleStarModerator | Lil'Star[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That was the point of the first axiom. But, if you think it wasn't clear, I can add it! I totally agree with you self improvement is super important. That is why it is axiom number 1! =)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought that was pretty clear :)

[–]noodleworld 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wow I'm so happy I found this sub. I was exposed to redpill stuff about a year ago through my boyfriend, and always thought it was really cool (I grew up in a super liberal environment and have been unlearning a lot of "progressive" behavior). But, I didn't know how to fit into the redpill community as a girl since all the discussion I saw was hyper-masculine. And all the discussion of non-monogamy and "spinning plates" on the male side really made me uncomfortable, so it's just... a relief to know that other redpill-inclined women have the same goals as me when it comes to men. It's also really nice to see all of my ideals about relationships put into words.

[–]LuckyLittleStarModerator | Lil'Star[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Welcome! I feel the exact sane way you do =)

[–]MentORPHEUSTRP Endorsed 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Errata and suggested additions. <snip> Looks great!

[–]LuckyLittleStarModerator | Lil'Star[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

  • The belief that if you want ... what your man wants in as your partner.

Opps, that was supposed to say "what your man wants in a partner". I will fix that. :)

  • The understanding men and women have different natures and preferences. They have different strengths and weaknesses , and different sexual strategies.

I agree, I will add this.

  • The fundamental SMP transaction is, Women are gatekeepers of sex, men are gatekeepers of commitment. Offering sex too easily in exchange for too little commitment is the basis of many relationship problems.

I will add the first sentence. I feel the second sentence can be a matter of opinion and debate.

  • The ultimate goal for a woman is a long lasting relationship with a man who she loves, respects, and is attracted to.

What change did you make?

  • Every woman ultimately bears agency for her outcome and satisfaction with life. One of her most important responsibilities is choosing a Captain worthy of her submission.

Hmm, I see what you are getting at here. However there is some debate about whether submissions can be used outside of the relationship as well. For example, "is it a good idea to be submissive while attracting a man, if so to what degree?" I think this wording implies that submissiveness is only something you use once a man is fully vetted. Baking a man cookies if your interested in him, or wanting him to pick the first date, could be examples of early submissive behavior.

I think what you are trying to say is, she should be choosy of who she picks long term, someone she can trust to lead. I agree with that, just worded better. Maybe "a man who is worthy of her trust and devotion".

[–]MentORPHEUSTRP Endorsed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good work.

[–][deleted]  (3 children)

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[–]LuckyLittleStarModerator | Lil'Star[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The wording that I used was intentional.

The idea that relationships generally work better if the man is in charge.

It doesn't necessarily have to be the belief of everyone posting that this is always the case. But, I also think it is outside the scope of the sub to discuss the validity of other types of relationships, or debate that male led relationships is a good thing. RPW is about male led relationships, that is why I included this as an axiom

[–]JarJar-PhantomMenace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry I was being stupid lol. Useless comment on my part.

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

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[–]LuckyLittleStarModerator | Lil'Star[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The purpose of the axiom was to avoid people coming in here asking questions like, "I want to be single the rest of my life, how do I do that?" We don't like that because even if they are being truthful, there is no useful advice we could give them.

I would absolutely be willing to rephrase if you could give me some examples of alternate goals that people could use RPW's sexual strategy for!

[–]margerym 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Love it!

[–]LuckyLittleStarModerator | Lil'Star[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks and welcome back Margery!