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Blue Pill ExampleBeta male orbits thot for 9 years while she rides the cock carousel, then she hits the wall and he buys her a house. Don't be this guy. (self.TheRedPill)

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This is straight from the whorses mouth, let me translate:

I was that girl who loved the bad boys. My nice guy had been my best friend for a number of years and I always knew he liked me but I was busy chasing assholes. 9 years we were best friends and grew up together and he watched me pick all the wrong people and get hurt.

I had a beta orbiter for nine years who I used for favors and as an emotional tampon in between getting pumped and dumped by Chad and Tyrone.

Other friends kept telling me to give it a chance etc. Two years ago he asked me to come over for dinner - it seemed fairly casual until I realised he’d asked me for Valentine’s Day. I can’t say I was guilted a-such but it still felt a little awkward. I was mega nervous thinking it was gonna be so awkward but when I turned up it was fine he’d cooked me a meal, bought flowers, a bottle of wine and chocolates and lit candles on the table.

The Chads weren't committing and my friends were encouraging me to settle down so I wouldn't end up as a spinster, so I agreed to go on a date with my favorite orbiter. He proved that he was willing to spend lots of money on me so I decided to make him my beta bucks provider.

We’re now headed towards our 2nd anniversary, have a lovely home together, a beautiful (but evil) Egyptian mau cat and couldn’t be happier. Because we were friends first we know we get on, we finish each other’s sentences and never run out of conversation. Yet to have one argument that goes beyond whose turn it is to wash up lol. He is genuinely the best thing to happen to me ever.

My beta bucks simp bought me a house and a cat and does whatever I tell him to without question. I am happy because I got to have my cake and eat it too, and if I get bored I can always divorce him, take half his shit and live off of alimony while I go back to getting pumped and dumped by Chad.

Sometimes the nice guy does win!

What exactly did the poor simp "win" here? A used-up, post-wall skank who has seen miles of dick and will do nothing for him but spend his money and occasionally give him duty sex with her twat that has been cummed in by dozens of other men.

This is textbook AF/BB. Men should stop rewarding bad behavior; if she didn't give you the best years of her life, don't pay her for the "privilege" of getting the worst. These desperate beta males are too thirsty to listen to reason, sadly, and the other commenters were cheering her on.

EDIT: The thot's post has now been gilded. We are in trouble as a nation.


[–]Valenx_Ackerman 209 points210 points  (49 children)

Sometimes I wonder how can someone have this lack of selfrespect... This is not about redpill, it's about fucking commonsense and respecting yourself

But what's really disgusting is not the girl's mentality, but the man who allows it to get pussy. It's fucking terrible. Then you've to listen this kind of guys saying things like "the past doesn't matter", "I've found the one", "patience has its reward"... makes me wanna kill myself

[–]AllahHatesFags[S] 75 points76 points  (15 children)

It's sad and disgusting, but what even worse is that most of the commenters are actually celebrating it! Makes me sick.

[–]BewareTheOldMan 75 points76 points  (5 children)

Yeah - that comment section essentially normalizes slut-whore behavior and makes it seem as is Mr. Beta Chump won this "great prize" of a used-up, banged-out, man-hopping Jezebel. This chick basically "aged-out" based on the fact that Chad no longer has interest - otherwise Mr. Beta Bucks had ZERO chance in the first place.

This guy is pathetic. He only knows about the confirmed "relationships" versus the one-night stands and 3-person sex sessions...none of which he will EVER receive at any point in the marriage.

The best case scenario is this Pass-Around burnout has GENUINELY changed her mindset, her behavior, and is sincere about being a loyal, honest, faithful and dutiful wife.

Only time will tell - especially if some past Bad Boy calls her up when he's in town for a few days "to catch up" on old times.

[–]Helmut_Newton 45 points46 points  (3 children)

The best case scenario is this Pass-Around burnout has GENUINELY changed her mindset, her behavior, and is sincere about being a loyal, honest, faithful and dutiful wife.

You can't turn a hoe into a housewife.

[–]untonyto 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You can't, but The Wall can

[–]zue3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Except that's a house"wife" in the loosest possible definition of the term. I bet this cuck is probably doing the dishes and laundry for her while also working a full time job.

[–]Raknith 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nope. I give it 5 years tops

[–]divorce33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best case scenario is this Pass-Around burnout has GENUINELY changed her mindset, her behavior, and is sincere about being a loyal, honest, faithful and dutiful wife.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa (goes to sleep) (wakes up) (goes to work) (comes home) (makes himself some dinner) (opens up reddit) ......Hahahahahaahahahhahahahahahah hahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaahahahahaha!

[–]graveless_ 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Cuckoldry is being normalized

[–]1Jaereth 31 points32 points  (4 children)

Women won't ever understand what it's like to be a guy. At least in the U.S. they've been at a certain level in society since birth, just by value of being a female.

[–]ShoushaJr 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Not just the US buddy. (I live in Egypt) - Thirsty low life men and harassers are the reason for this. They give girls (even the fugly one) huge self esteem. You see them flooding her facebook, instagram and whatever other shitform and all she gets CONSTANTLY is approval and appraisal - for what? Being a female. That gives her power, and most humans abuse power or get caught up in it.

[–]JcHgvr 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You guys across the pond must stop thinking there's some kind of promised land outside of the US. There isn't one. Eastern European woman have as little idea od what it's like to be a man as all others.

[–]zue3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep, this is just another case of the grass being greener on the other side. Spoiler: it isn't. Exported western culture ruined it for everyone else too.

[–]organicfluxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't women in their 40's and onwards understand what it's like to be a guy?

[–]The-Red-Vagabond 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Look at this comment I saw from the post.

Thank fucking christ, someone who actually ended up with a nice guy.

That's just so sad and pathetic. Crazy the amount of shit these guys have no idea what they're about to get into the years to come.

[–]red_troy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Let's face the facts he is the only one to blame in this situation. Even in an alternative reality, where bluepill was the truth and girls were really interested in flowers and chivalry. He would have lost out because he asked her on a date after 9 years. He should have been closing on her way early even if he would end up doing the romantic dinner champaign routine. He would have gotten rejected and realized his girl is interested in Chad's dick or they would end up together and lived happily after and he would have found a unicorn. But unicorns don't exist. Probably she would have broken up with him after a few weeks.

Being the Billy beta he is, he realized that the best time to strike would be when his crush is post wall and would gladly accept him for the money and has already rode the carousel to her heart's delight.

[–]Thomaskingo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What did you expect. It’s a beta orbiter success story. A beta cuck orbiter neck deep in scarcity mentality without experience of being desired will count his blessings getting post wall woman on her way down. Essentially in this case he’s achieving his 10 year onities, and even though he’ll never be the recipient of her best, he’s still getting her.

[–]1Jaereth 58 points59 points  (5 children)

This is not about redpill, it's about fucking commonsense and respecting yourself

Yes.

Once i've moved on from a girl, that's it. If I tried to pursue you romantically, and you were not having it, that's it.

The fuck are these "hanger on" guys. I guess orbiters. FIRST thing I would think is "What changed to make her want to be with me now?"

Idk, they must have NEVER succeeded with a woman. The feeling when your partner is REALLY into you, like they just fucking CRAVE you. It's a good feeling. I'd never fuck around with someone you had to coerce or wear down into giving you affection. There's plenty more out there.

[–]Quaternionz 42 points43 points  (2 children)

Idk, they must have NEVER succeeded with a woman. The feeling when your partner is REALLY into you, like they just fucking CRAVE you. It's a good feeling.

My longterm relationships when I was blue pilled always lacked that genuine desire from the woman. I'd struggle to get the girl's begrudging acceptance. I'd get it and a mediocre relationship would follow, with tepid sex and her being a controlling nagging shrew.

Then I got red pilled after a bad break up. I started lifting and developed some game. When I started dating again I had a first date with a 9 that ended back in a hotel room. At one point she got on top of me, looked me in the eyes, and said "I want you so bad right now." The sex was great.

Now I don't settle for anything less than genuine fuck-me-right-now enthusiasm.

For a while it puzzled me why women date guys who they don't have this enthusiasm for, and even get into LTRs or marriages with them. It's pretty clear now why they do this. They just can't attract better men, so they have to settle. Lots of women don't even know what it feels like to be with a man who they genuinely desire, because the men they genuinely desire are too busy banging 20 year old hotties to give a 7 any time.

This happens even to younger girls, like 23 year old 6's and 7's who aren't comfortable enough with their sexuality to dive into their party years.

Lots of these women develop an ego preserving defense mechanism where they think "I'm not into muscular, vain, masculine guys. That's toxic masculinity. That's why I date betas, it's my genuine preference." It's never really their genuine preference. They get into a shitty feedback cycle where they turn themselves off from masculinity because the Chad's aren't biting. They stop putting any effort into being feminine because it's not paying off anyway, and that makes the Chad's bite even less. They throw in with feminism and masculinize themselves to such a degree that they cease being able to click with men, and can only click with feminized beta boys. Masculine energy always clicks better with feminine energy, even with the masculine energy is coming from the woman and the feminine energy is coming from the dude.

[–]reluctantly_red 4 points5 points  (0 children)

don't settle for anything less than genuine fuck-me-right-now enthusiasm.

Exactly!!! Probably the single most important thing guys have to learn.

[–]untonyto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nailed it so hard it's expecting twins

[–]Imperator_Red 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The feeling when your partner is REALLY into you, like they just fucking CRAVE you. It's a good feeling.

You really don't know what this is like until you experience it for the first time. Then you feel stupid for thinking that all the girls before were actually into you after you see what it actually looks like when a girl is into you.

[–]captainsadness1010 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is a thrill to turn it into that feeling, more of a challenge. But admittedly not ideal for a long term partner

[–]SpectacularFox 34 points35 points  (8 children)

Men will take so much shit because it's so much harder for a man to find a woman for a long term relationship than vice versa. The average man simply wants an average looking woman who isn't complete brain damage, the average woman wants way more than that. It creates a total imbalance where men will take a whole bunch of shit just for something women take for granted, the amount of shit goes way up if the woman is decent looking.

[–]jewishsupremacist88 3 points4 points  (5 children)

this post ought to be stickied and its exactly why civilization in the west is collapsing. alot of men are starting to wake up and realize there is nothing in this world for them except drudgery and loneliness.

[–]SpectacularFox 4 points5 points  (4 children)

It's the product of women's suffrage and basically voting for the state to be their provider. Historically women have relied on men for that function and so the average guy could find a woman willing to have a long term relationship and family much more easily. There was no welfare state and divorce was stigmatised. Now you have a system that incentives family break up's by giving women the children and a bunch of a mans earnings and property.

When you have no societal social/financial pressures pushing women into monogamous family orientated relationships you end up with a small percentage of the top guys fucking most of the women and if mr average is lucky he'll find a woman who'll settle down in her thirties to use him to pay for her kids before she hits the menopause. It's a pretty bleak situation for men in general and society as a whole, as you say.

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    [–]jewishsupremacist88 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    or sugar dating. lots of young girls sellin that ass

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      [–]jewishsupremacist88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      depends how much game you have and how much you can afford..along with your area. ive banged Sugar babies for free because im younger and not bad looking..but in all honesty alot of girls would rather hook up with me than some 70 yr old grandpa. Sugar daddy sites are mostly full of old dudes so if you're younger its not that hard. NYC sugar babies prob get about $500 per meet but if you go to other parts of the country it can be anywhere from $150-300 per meet or whatever. you need to keep in mind that the average "girl next door" whose sellin that ass can prob charge $700-1000 as a high end call girl.

      [–]Imperator_Red 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Yea it really comes down to this. It's easy for us to say "why would you tolerate that" because we've improved ourselves to the point where we have options. It's like someone with a great job asking his buddy why he puts up with bullshit at his crap job. Uhh because he needs money dude. Obviously if he could do better, he would.

      [–]CensorThis111 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Lots of thirsty dudes out there, dying in their own self-created desert. Soon as you drip a few droplets of water in front of them they lose control of themselves.

      You're 100% right it is incredibly sad. And while there might be some okay short term gain to be had for the rare few with a society mostly made up of men like this... there are some major long term consequences that are in our collective best interests to avoid.

      Enjoy the decline, sure. Enjoy everything is probably a better motto. Better than that, we should probably enjoy resisting or altering the decline in some way.

      You said it yourself:

      makes me wanna kill myself

      I think a lot of people want to use their power to change the world around them for the better. I personally believe that is one of the greatest virtues of men. It saddens me greatly to see men live without self respect.

      [–]a_nus 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Anyone who's been a BP chode can understand. The oneitis is so great, she's so high up on a pedestal, no mileage of cock will matter. She's still up on that pedestal, so as long as you can have some of her attention, any, you feel accomplished, as if you've won the greatest prize. Even if you have no sex, you've pedestalized her so badly that a hug, or "cuddling" will be enough. It's okay, you'll jackoff in the shower after your cuddle.

      [–]jihocech 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Totally agree. I was like that. Suffered from oneitis 12 years for nothing.

      [–]johnpayne10 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      It is not really their fault. Society has carefully conditioned men into this pathetic state. Imagine how disastrous first 15/20/25 years of social conditioning are. If they find TRP, they immediately regret their former behaviour and proceed to change. If not, well they are doomed and don't even realize it.

      [–]Odins-left-eye 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      Put yourself in his situation. If this woman really was hooking up with a bunch of Chads, then she's probably the most attractive woman he could get. Which would you rather settle down with: a hot woman who has been with a lot of men, or a pudgy, homely woman who wears hoodies and sneakers, but has only slept with two other guys in her life? There's no wrong answer. You can pick whichever you'd prefer. But there's no wrong answer for this guy either.

      [–]Valenx_Ackerman 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      You can choose none of those 2, there's no need to get into a LTR with a woman that you don't 100% like. Just improve yourself and trust your future posibilities

      [–]1empatheticapathetic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      “Believe in something you’ve never had and don’t know how you’ll ever get it”

      [–]X-Trem0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      The "funny" thing is that to all of us who used to be like that it was always said that good guys finish first... on the long run... Its makes me wanna vomit... fucking literally

      [–]Offensive_Poems 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Exactly, which is why I would rather settle for a 5 or a 6 with a non existent to very low n count than a used up slut that nobody wants.

      [–]Fulp_Piction 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Betas gonna beta.

      [–]a_crapybara 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I suspect that one variable is that a lot of men were raised by women, many of them single. I've also noticed that dads in the neighborhood in which I grew up either didn't pass-on the knowledge they themselves learned (generally just not very good fathers) or they were blue-pilled as fuck for reasons I can't understand.

      [–]yomo86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Self-respect comes with being less emotional. Male involvement which lacks abundance leads to onenitis which thus leads to oxytocin for a whore.

      I used to be extremely judgmental for those simps, mostly because I used to be one - kind of self-hating the former self, but then with a little self-reflection, no-one blames a heroin addict for picking up old habits when they come with no perceived price tag. And in case of those poor schmucks, it is even encouraged by society to hit the beta crack pipe.

      As OP said: Just don't be that guy.

      [–]Dawnguards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Mirages can be seen in the deserts. Thirsty men will be exploited beyond belief.

      [–]antariusz -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

      Eh, it can work both ways.

      The past DOESNT matter, what only matters is the person you are today, right now in this minute. Women don’t give a shit about your struggle to get to where you are, they only care about the finished product.

      Patience has its reward, with a triple digit notch count I have waded through a lot of chaff to find what I consider decent. I didn’t get married and fuck up my life at the first opportunity, I kept myself in good shape, i kept plugging away at improving myself. When I was a sad virgin 24 year old I could have given up, but I didn’t. I learned what I needed to do, and succeeded.

      The only thing that I’ll agree with you on is the “I found the one” because there is no such thing as a one. It’s pretty plugged in.

      But you can “have your cake and eat it too” if you’re a man.

      [–]Valenx_Ackerman 10 points11 points  (3 children)

      Are you sure that past doesnt matter? Will you have a LTR with a girl that have sucked +300 dicks? Or a 30 years old virgin?

      About "patience has its reward" quote I was referring to this particular case. Of course patience has its reward!, but when talking about a woman that has ignored you for years while sleeping with tons of Chads, the "lucky guy" talks about patience like having a sperm-can used woman is the best thing he could ever happen to his life

      [–]griz3lda -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

      I would, i'm not insecure. I've fucked >300 so what do I care. The real reason not to is if you want to avoid bpd/cluster-b (totally legit life choice but not mine) cause that shit ain't normal for a girl.

      [–]TheCrotchWhisperer 288 points289 points  (20 children)

      ‘Nice guy does win!’ Talking about herself as the win. Pretty arrogant tbh.

      [–]isteppedinsjw 119 points120 points  (10 children)

      They consider themselves the catch.

      [–]JuicySosa300 41 points42 points  (0 children)

      They are when the guy allows it to be framed that way

      [–]tempolaca 53 points54 points  (4 children)

      They are, compared to the beta. Look how she consider herself superior in her choice of words. Not after the wall, though.

      Remember, we are hearing this from her side. Maybe the guy was fucking whores all day and maybe he still is.

      [–]moltenw 24 points25 points  (1 child)

      what does the last part have to do with anything?

      Him fucking hoes does not change the fact that he bought a house to a girl who friendzoned him for 9 years and who he married.

      [–]ArchetypicalDegen 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      He loved her for 9 years and didn't make a move. I doubt he was alpha.

      [–]GainzdalfTheWhey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Highly doubtful, she wouldn't live with her if that was true

      [–]Imperator_Red 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Well Sex and the City told them so...

      [–]MobileRedditOnly 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      The only thing the BB catch is a STD.

      [–]blazze 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      [–]SteveStJohn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      That is a massively long article justifying trying to catch a disease.

      [–]jackandjill22 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      Yea, this is the sad part & it's pretty accurate however Im going to miss these posts if this places vanishes. It's a beacon of light

      [–]SoulRedemption 11 points12 points  (3 children)

      This is the thing. Women ideally do not see it this way. Another situation is where a "nice shy girl" hooks hp wiv a alpha, and breaks him, locks in. Once this is done, she feels bored.

      [–]destraht 23 points24 points  (2 children)

      She is already bored to the point that she needs to frame her relationship in a happy way. A cute little story to hold it all together in her mind. The facade is already cracking.

      [–]SoulRedemption 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      True. I'm not quite referring to this story though.

      [–]blazze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Boredom and need for drama keep bad boys on speed dial :-)

      [–]Truedemocracy4 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Yep. Clearly doesn't respect or look up to the guy

      [–]1SirKolbath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I just laughed until I got the hiccups at your username.

      [–]Fulp_Piction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Someone's gotta be the arrogant one, she's in your frame or you're in hers.

      [–]UnbreakableFrame 65 points66 points  (2 children)

      Thank you for posting this. Men need these kinds of reminders. Anyone could become this guy.

      [–]RoadkillPharaoh 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      I was on my way to becoming this guy.

      The simple thought of it disgusts me.

      [–]UnbreakableFrame 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      This is the 4th stage of the cancer that Western society infects its men with.

      [–]Auxfite 93 points94 points  (4 children)

      Shit like this just gets old. Beta males are disgusting

      [–]omega_dawg93 54 points55 points  (3 children)

      they are everywhere... they love their roles and will get mad if you try to help them.

      and some say that men have all the power. lol.

      this broad got all the dick she wanted, meals, emotional support, more dick, attention by the truckload, and in the end, gets cash & prizes and the fall back of divorce laws to ensure her status.

      men, if you don't do anything, make sure you are your living your life for YOU first.

      [–]Auxfite 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      I remember when I first learned RP I tried to teach it to my old BP cuck friend but he just couldn’t accept it even tho deep down I know he did.

      Lesson learn - let beta males suffer and never discuss RP. Some men learn the hard way and some don’t learn at all.

      [–]Odins-left-eye 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      If it makes you feel better (and it sounds like it would) you can remind yourself that she did give something up. If she had gotten married younger, she probably would have spent the rest of her life with a stronger partner. She had all those adventures because she was bad at delayed gratification.

      [–]omega_dawg93 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      i have no clue what you're talking about. AWALT. the end.

      she got on the cock carousel, and she wanted to have fun with bad boys named chad and/or tyrone.
      now that the wall is in sight, the beta bucks, comfort, and security of a good provider is the plan.

      she had all those adventures because LOTS OF ATTENTION is the reward for catching cum from bad boys.

      [–]Truedemocracy4 47 points48 points  (2 children)

      What's worse is that as a guy we were raised to think this is "winning". Heard so many times to be a gentleman and study hard and you'll get the girl "in the end".

      Even the way she describes that date you can tell she's not that into it. Poor dude, being settled on

      [–]MurkyArtichoke 36 points37 points  (1 child)

      The guy is probably thinking: "A lot of guys wanted to be with her, but in the end, she settled with me! I won!"

      But the reality is that the guys she's slept with doesn't give a fuck about her. They have pumped and dumped already. The guy didn't win, he just got sloppy seconds.

      [–]belzarek 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      More like sloppy fifty eigth

      [–]Chosen_1_1162 29 points30 points  (0 children)

      Holy shit I just read that comment before clicking this link from my front page hahaha

      All the other comments are like "Finally! An example where the nice guy wins!!" ... Idk if locking down a used-up post-wall ho is a win

      [–]brotein_synthesis 26 points27 points  (0 children)

      It's actually really simple: think of that boy who was bullied in high school and became shy, risk-averse and sexually starved as an adult. He bacame a person that craves affection and praise at all cost but ironically gets very little becuase he displays weakness, insecurity and self-doubt: qualities repugnant to both men and women. To him, sex itself feels like the highest reward attainable, he has never felt abundance, strength and confidence. Which is why he would go to absurd lenghts to please women that think so little of him.

      Now, what's my point? It's ok if you were that guy back in school because of a multitude if variables that you had no control over: a disfunctional family, a single mother, poverty... you name it. Not everybody gets a good hand in life and that's fine.

      However, it's your fault if you let this define your adult life and turn you into a shell of a man that invites pity and disrespect.

      [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 50 points51 points  (2 children)

      If you want to spend money on women, spend it on whores.

      They have upfront pricing, will actually give you something, and will go away afterwards.

      [–]Charlie_Wright8312 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Legit.

      [–]Datanami 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Don't spend money on women, period

      [–]omega_dawg93 13 points14 points  (2 children)

      see rollo's, "saving the best" essay.

      [–]SteveStJohn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      [–]omega_dawg93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      rollo's info is almost ALWAYS spot-on... that's why i think his books are REQUIRED READING for all men and should be read multiple times to keep themselves on their 'game.'

      i WISH i had his books when i was 18!!! i could have saved myself a lot of pain, bullshit, etc.

      [–]GEN_GOTHMOG 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      One of the replies to the comment:

      That or he's playing the long nice guy con. /s

      [–]1spicy_fries 20 points21 points  (1 child)

      he’d cooked me a meal, bought flowers, a bottle of wine and chocolates and lit candles on the table

      This makes me want to barf. The idea that she occupies all of his thoughts, while she's barely has a moment to think about him because she's still haunted by Chad's cock.

      [–]saibot83 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      That's what threw me for a loop with my first real rejection in my extreme blue pill days. She had occupied my every thought for over two years. She tossed me away without a seconds thought because she maybe possibly wanted to fuck a guy at work. Women don't care about men. At all. I went from spending lots of time with her, basically fucking her almost every day, trying to work towards a defined relationship together, to like I'd never existed at all. None of the awesome moments we spent together mattered. It tore my heart out but it was a very very VERY useful lesson to learn right out of the gate.

      [–]Shaney96 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      I was reading the comments attached to the archived link and burst out laughing at "Alpha fucks, beta bucks" - fucking brilliant.

      Edit: I read the archived post prior to yours; I must commend your skill at translating womanese - it's like Pook himself is the author.

      [–]ovrload 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      I met a Japanese girl in Australia, dated her for a few months before she went back to japan. She wanted to come back here and asked if she could stay at my house for the 2 weeks, I said yeah, why not. What shocked me the most were how many thirsty dudes were messaging her. How can men be so pathetic just for a whiff of pussy?

      [–]saibot83 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Every man should make a fake female dating site profile at least once in life. It's an eye opening experience to say the least. So many men are downright pathetic it's scary.

      [–]B3ER 31 points32 points  (11 children)

      Wow, someone just end this male's life. It's euthanasia at this point.

      [–]AllahHatesFags[S] 30 points31 points  (7 children)

      Maybe he will end his own life after his oneitis gets bored with him and divorce rapes him so she can get back on the carousel.

      [–]MyOwnWave 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      Maybe he will end up here, like I did, like many others did, and wake the fuck up.

      [–]B3ER 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Which is exactly why it should just be done early. There is nothing but suffering left for him.

      [–]Imperator_Red 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I'm so happy for the negative experiences I had when I was 18-20. I just stopped giving a shit and suddenly everything got better. Basically figured out 75% of TRP myself, then started reading this and got the rest.

      [–]B3ER 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Both good and bad experiences shape you. Never lament pain from the path. Just don't dwell on it. Resolve it, give it a place, learn from it and it will be a strong foundation for you to build upon.

      [–]FrankVillain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      She probably wrote that crap so he can read it and buy her more shit.

      [–]vsamael 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      this is why we can't have nice things

      [–]MobileRedditOnly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      we have nice things because they haven't been stolen from us by some used up has-been.

      [–]Odins-left-eye 17 points18 points  (2 children)

      Jesus. Why don't we ask him? If he's happy, then fuckin' let him be happy while it lasts. You do you. If you want to be alpha as fuck and spin plates and shit, go to town. Make yourself happy. I don't understand why or when this sub became about sadistic, petty malevolence. It doesn't make your life one bit better if this guy suffers or dies.

      [–]BewareTheOldMan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

      Mr. Beta Orbiter turned last-gasp husband is happy - there's no doubt about that...for now.

      The million dollar question is has this "reformed" slut-whore, Pass-Around burnout GENUINELY changed her mindset, her behavior, and is sincere about being a loyal, honest, faithful and dutiful wife.

      Only time will tell - especially if some past Bad Boy calls her up when he's in town for a few days "to catch up" on old times.

      If she passes the loyal wife test for the rest of her natural life it's all good, but if not...we know how this movie ends.

      [–]Raknith 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It's just fucked up. He probably thinks they'll be together forever, as literally every couple does. When in reality they'll probably last 5 years maybe and then she leaves him and takes half his shit.

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      [–]ambiguouslawnmower 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I checked their profile and it seems real

      [–]toolate4redpill 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      Guaranteed she's bored with the "nice guy" sex already and fucking Chad/Tyrone on the side. THOTS never change. Dumb Beta cuck is eventually gonna find out about trying to make a whore a housewife

      BTW don't read the original thread. A "nice Guy" to those THOT's is a euphemism for "creepy rapist"

      [–]LeadVitamin13 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      That's what struck me about the comments. They think these "nice guys" are just evil manipulators trying to get in girls pants, and what Chad and Tyrone aren't? The only difference between Chad and Tyrone and the "nice guys" is she wants to have sex with Chad and Tyrone.

      [–]I_am_Jax_account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      To me it does sound like she's trying to convince herself that things are good which means she's not happy. Why post something like this otherwise.

      [–]FrankVillain 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      The whole stuff is still there, what a collection of human miseries.

      Some of these stories are so stupid... I'm not even mad at most of these girls as I am with the dudes.

      [–]Quo210 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      This is the most horrible thing I've read today, Both the original comment and the people celebrating. That's enough internet for today. I'm done.

      [–]Andorli 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Sometimes the nice guy does win!

      This is grade A hamstering. You have been pumped and dumped for 9 fucking years. The amount of dicks that went in and out must be staggering. And yet somehow the guy won?

      [–]Noramia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I cannot conceive of the level of brainwashing required to cause this man to think he achieved anything close to resembling victory.

      [–]TheImpossible1 10 points11 points  (5 children)

      Who wants a post wall woman?

      [–]MurkyArtichoke 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      Ideally no one would want that. I think a lot of guys at some point decide that they give up and they feel the need to settle for something. Then, when a girl they like finally gets herself off the cock-caroussel, they decide to go for it. Deep down, i think most guys know that they've "lost" and they are being cucked, but they don't do anything about it. They are too scared of the consequences.

      Then again, if every man dismissed all women who are in the category of "post-wall", what would that be like? I think there are exceptions.

      [–]TrumpCardStrategy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Honestly though if she doesn’t have any kids, it’s not a bad option for a lot of dudes. Decent looking chic that he’ll be able to procreate and continue his line with. I mean it’s been happening for millenia.

      [–]TheImpossible1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I don't think there are any exceptions. Post wallers are entitled and pathetic.

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        [–]TheImpossible1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I don't watch Game of Thrones.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 27 points28 points  (12 children)

        Sometimes people DO mature and enter stable healthy relationships in their late 20s and older. They are the exception, and generally pining away for the free spirited woman you can't have is a poor sexual strategy for men particularly younger.

        There's nothing in the OP to suggest her story cannot be taken at face value, so this is a rather poor example to make into incel rage bait or MGTOW told-you-so.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 28 points29 points  (2 children)

        Don't test them, you're only going to confuse them further.

        Sure his tone is acidic, but that doesn't make his analysis less true. This is an extremely typical case of "saving the best", of "beta in waiting". Assuming the story is true.

        The candidness of her own admission ("I always knew he liked me but I was busy chasing assholes" and "Other friends kept telling me to give it a chance") is an illustration of modern open hypergamy. It's only falling short of declaring the truth: she kept him as a plan B until such time when she may need it.

        She was probably going to keep him warming the bench for a few more years but then an unexpected event happened that kinda forced her hand: he made a move. But not an overt one that she could simply answer with a LJBF rejection. That one was sneaky - a seemingly "fairly casual" dinner on Valentine's day. Tough situation for her. She could not refuse a "fairly casual" dinner invitation with her male BFF. What friend does that? So in order to keep him orbiting, she had to go, but reluctantly as she anticipated having to LJBF him ("I can’t say I was guilted a-such but it still felt a little awkward. I was mega nervous thinking it was gonna be so awkward"). She even made sure not to drink much so as to not make a mistake..

        And then the guy pressed the right buttons, triggered some attraction, and she decided to "give it a go", so our beta in waiting got invited to bat, ahead of time for once. Good on him, and good on her.

        All women "mature" at some point, by which we mean they realize the SMP is getting tougher for them so they switch their strategy to capitalize on a beta’s willingness to provide. Here I don't think is a case of a woman getting into her epiphany phase. He "tricked" her into a date she didn’t really want to go to, he did an OK job at triggering the tingles, she went with it, and realized the perks of giving a beta a chance: next-level provider-ship. So here is a story of a woman who shortcut the normal process by a few years.

        And then, sure enough as per the script, her story is pushed on stage by women and betas as a shining illustration that “See? See? Nice guys DO get the girl! So keep playing nice! It DOES work!”

        [–]TrumpCardStrategy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Good analysis. And I’ll just add she never married or had kids so compared to a lot of woman her age that’s fairly high value even if rapidly approaching the wall. He gets to pass on his lineage with a good looking chick, meaning his kids will probably do well for themselves.

        [–]AllahHatesFags[S] 33 points34 points  (7 children)

        Women who have too many sexual partners have great difficulty pair-bonding; this is science. So it is very likely the marriage won't last because she is damaged from 9 years of pump and dumps.

        [–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 25 points26 points  (1 child)

        Women who have too many sexual partners have great difficulty pair-bonding; this is science.

        It's also RP canon, and good examples of it have been done to death. This particular example is about a couple that has been stable for two years now. Making up a future history for them and writing it out in the first person isn't an example, it's fanfic. Does not improve the signal/noise ratio.

        [–]Fulp_Piction 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        She does say she spent her twenties chasing assholes .. my nice guy waited blah blah but yeah, the outburst at the end is weirdly sexual and immature.

        Doesn't help the whole quarantine fiasco.

        [–]Dragon_Garoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Couldn't agree with this more. A girl I slept with got married; she had a high n count and they lasted just over a year. She moved on at the first sign of trouble and is basically living with a new dude. I predict 6 months at best.

        [–]tempolaca -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

        Yeah but we are talking about hundreds of partners. She might have only tens, or even less.

        [–]AllahHatesFags[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        9 years on the carousel can get a thot into triple-digit n-counts.

        [–]poohead3 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

        Even one partner before her spouse significantly increases likelihood of divorce.

        [–]Zech4riah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I'd go even further. If their upbringing is on point and both father and mother have been around, they can mature already at mid twenties.

        [–]Nov51605 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Man, we need a "hoes Decoded" series. Ive made one in the past, just made this one to be series 2 ! linked !
        Hoes_Decoded_2.jpg

        [–]Arbiterjim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        This hurt me to read

        [–]goemon45 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Guys like that make me sick

        [–]theoctosquibble 13 points14 points  (2 children)

        Good job brother, you showed that thot who is the boss. You told her in the comments that she's a thot and that alpha fucks & beta bucks. I mean yeah dude, I read the whole post, it doesn't say (nor imply) that he bought her a house. She said they have a lovely home together (which might mean also they share a living space or have an intimacy). But nevertheless you cashed in that sweet sweet karma by posting her story here.

        Now don't get me wrong, I agree with you, don't be "that guy". That guy that waits 9 years for a woman. Even if she wasn't a thot, it's still not worth it. I thought TRP is a place where we discuss ideas and sexual strategy not "hurr durr wymen ar stoopid amirit guys?? guuys?"

        I see this theme of woman hating being very prevalent nowdays. Don't be that guy.

        [–]Ehombre 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        This guy gets it. You observe what is and take from it what will improve you.

        What I gathered is the same lesson you learned: Don't wait a decade on a woman. It's not worth it. Better to be the Chad who fucks her and moves on than the Beta who pines and hopes with fantasies as big as his blue balls.

        To laugh and deride her is childish, petty, and beneath the dignity of a man.

        [–]Imperator_Red 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        How does she really know he was "waiting" though. Perhaps he was out smashing puss and doing his thing, and she simply convinced herself through her massively self-centered worldview that he had been waiting for her the entire time.

        [–]stylesm11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Think about it, to this dude who could only imagine an attractive mate you be his own(even aging) , she has value over him, it's pitiful but i can sympathise

        [–]sneakyboii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This is just sad... makes you wonder how many more men are doing these kinds of things for women.

        [–]menial_optimist 1 point2 points  (3 children)

        A lot of your conclusions I find reaching, but the principle rings true. No doubt she was 29-32 when that kicked in. I do get angry at that shit too though, as today's woman can really have the best of both worlds.

        At the same time though I do see a lot of guys who I'd consider balanced between Alpha and Beta who have pretty attractive girlfriends. Then again being a douchebag/asshole/prick is not required to have alpha behaviors.

        So although AF/BB applies generally there's tons of exceptions.

        [–]griz3lda 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        In comments says she's 22 at time of post.

        [–]menial_optimist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Really? So the guys been orbiting since 13 years of age?

        [–]Ramp_Up_Then_Dump 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Your posts hurts me. Mr.Logic in me gets punched in the face whenever i see this level of cuckoldry. This is terminal level losersness.

        [–]kylerosa21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        If you read the replies to the original comment, you'll see how many people actually support acting like this. Feminine Imperative at its finest

        [–]ArchetypicalDegen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        She'll cheat on him, leave him, or stay with him but be miserable. I don't think a relationship can work on the basis of talking yourself into it. Attraction imo is something that's pretty quick to develop. There's a natural chemistry where you instantly enjoy someone.

        She doesn't want him deep down, he was just the best option at the time. Eventually she'll meet a coworker or something that. He'll make her feel tingly, and she'll suddenly start getting the urge to get a nice haircut, dress nicer, and she'll find herself putting more effort into her makeup. Coworker will want her, and she'll go flying into his arms.

        It'll be funny to see how she looks at this relationship in hindsight after she leaves. She'll suddenly say she was "pushed into it"

        [–]111Dx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Shit! what about the guy? Beta fucker will never realize how fucked up this shit is. Man I'm outta words.

        [–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I’m for banning posts “straight from horses mouth” once and for all

        Don’t listen to a bitch

        Listening to one won’t make you a better man

        See them for what they do not what they say

        [–]underd0g- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The red pill lingo never fails to make me laugh my ass off. Bravo.

        [–]Apple_OfThe_Earth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        You can't teach people to respect themselves, this dude clearly has no self respect or doesn't know/understand his self-worth (If he has any.) He deserves whatever hell of a life he has with that bitch.

        [–]Xoramung 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        we finish each other’s

        "bank account funds. I have none, and, well, he has none... now"

        [–]loz333 5 points6 points  (8 children)

        This

        A used-up, post-wall skank who has seen miles of dick and will do nothing for him but spend his money and occasionally give him duty sex with her twat that has been cummed in by dozens of other men.

        is way too far. You don't think Women should be allowed to sleep with different men before settling down without being called a whore? Or is that just a privilege reserved for Men? Many on here will tell you that experienced women can be worth their weight in gold, in terms of not having to put up with melodrama and also really knowing what they're doing in the bedroom.

        Your analysis reads like one long list of cliches. It's like you don't believe there could be anything positive about her or their relationship. Or that everyone has to be a Alpha-Male or they're not a "Real Man".

        To say that a women's worst years is after she has been 'cummed in by dozens of other men' is shallow beyond belief.

        I found this quote further down in the original thread from the OP:

        Thank you. Glad someone got where I was coming from, we rent, everything’s split in half and we adopted the cat. He did have other romantic interests in that time but always had a connection :)

        Just to add a bit of context we met when he was 11 and I was 13, when I said I liked bad boys I was on about in that teenage way - that I just had bad taste, you can have bad taste and not be fucking every guy in town. I was not out fucking a ton of guys. He has not been a standby until my youth was over or any of those things, we are still pretty young I think, he’s 20 and I’m 22 (I still consider him my best friend which is why I put 9 years but that is confusing on reflection) I had my own security when we got together and was not a slut but thanks anyway.

        So you made some really bad assumptions there man.

        Just friggin' chill out a bit. You don't want to turn into a TRP version of a SJW, calling out women taking advantage of men everywhere you go when it ain't even necessarily true.

        [–]magx01 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Right because women never lie to protect their reputations.

        [–]TrumpCardStrategy 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        Well fuck me. This does change the story quite a bit. Idk why you’re being downvoted. Confirmation bias is a bitch.

        [–]Incel9876 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Well fuck me. This does change the story quite a bit. Idk why you’re being downvoted. Confirmation bias is a bitch.

        When women can divorce you and take over half your wealth plus a lifetime of alimony, then bills "split in half" can mean nothing more than paying dues, until time to cash out the investment.

        [–]loz333 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Yes that's all true and I empathize with anyone who's actually had to go through that kind of hell. It just doesn't mean it's what every woman, or even most women want. The OP seems to really wanting to see that sort of thing, and that just messes up your judgment and any potential relationships. Either that or just posting for the karma he knows he'd get on here.

        Here's what I'd want for myself and others - ideally I want to go into every situation open to the fact that I might find a woman on either end of the scale, or most likely somewhere between, and to arm myself with knowledge on how to handle it like a Real Men. That's basically why I come to this sub. I don't want to go around seeing women screwing over men everywhere I go, and neither should you.

        [–]loz333 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

        Hah it's cool. I was ready for downvotes but I'm glad I got upvoted in the end, because to me it shows that people here don't just want to be alpha-males at any cost, and it's good to know that's not what this sub is about.

        [–]griz3lda 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Concur. This is a poor example to flip out on. Comes off whack.

        [–]loz333 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I guess it's best to stick to talking about our own experiences, rather than judging situations like that. When we don't know the facts it's too easy to let our imaginations fill in the gaps.

        [–]Odins-left-eye 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        You sound really mad. Honestly, guys like she's describing were never going to do any better than this anyway. It's easy for you to say that he shouldn't have "rewarded" her with his commitment as you chug a protein shake and ignore three texts from girls, but for this guy the alternative was to be alone. I figured from your headline that this story was going to end with her divorcing him and kicking him out of his house. You're just assuming the worst because that's something that could eventually happen. Calm down. Both of the people in this story were acting as rational actors. You have observed a few truths about the world. Instead of spitting and frothing at the mouth about it, smile and play the game for what it's worth. Maybe you were one of those Chads that got to fuck her. Would you really rather she didn't? Then you wouldn't have gotten to have sex.

        [–]BugDestroyer 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        Being alone is better than being with some post-wall skank that never paid attention to the mother fucker. Let me remind you that he was an orbiter for 9 goddamn years. She "gave him" a chance. Basically he got the consolation prize. Any self-respecting men would be disgusted by that.

        He basicaly just settled because of his beta behavior and scarcity mentality. What kind of father do you think this guy is going to be? Do you think he's going to raise a strong man? He'll just raise another bluepill individual and the cycle will repeat.

        Decline of civilization in action.

        [–]magx01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Both of the people in this story were acting as rational actors

        Literally no human ever has acted as such.

        [–]Tough_Connection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Great post, reason I follow this sub.

        [–]Mattcwu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The thot's post has now been gilded. We are in trouble as a nation.

        Why? Not everyone needs to be well-off. This has never been the case of any nation.

        [–]victor_knight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        His DNA had additional code to the effect of something like: "Do anything to procreate. And I mean anything".

        [–]blazze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        > The Chads weren't committing and my friends were encouraging me to settle down so I wouldn't end up as a spinster

        Though "Chad" is a Trophy husband , when the relationships ends she will be the one to flush it .

        [–]blazze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Seems like Mr NG is sexually repulsive in the femme-o-sphere, but betus-cuckus is not yet extinct !

        [–]face_north 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Isnt it that its the men in western world gave too much freedom to the women in the very first place ? I mean what else was expected ?

        [–]NeedingAdvice86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        That isn't beta..that is straight up mental illness.

        Not a chance in hell that this woman didn't take advantage of a dude with some serious mental problems.

        [–]loz333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Reposting this quote from the OP:

        Thank you. Glad someone got where I was coming from, we rent, everything’s split in half and we adopted the cat. He did have other romantic interests in that time but always had a connection :)

        Just to add a bit of context we met when he was 11 and I was 13, when I said I liked bad boys I was on about in that teenage way - that I just had bad taste, you can have bad taste and not be fucking every guy in town. I was not out fucking a ton of guys. He has not been a standby until my youth was over or any of those things, we are still pretty young I think, he’s 20 and I’m 22 (I still consider him my best friend which is why I put 9 years but that is confusing on reflection) I had my own security when we got together and was not a slut but thanks anyway.

        [–]Good-Boi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You know, I don't respect whores but I do understand their reasoning and it's solid for the most part; "Take advantage of any and profit for as long as you can", is their basic principle. It's a business.

        Now what I'm getting at is that I acknowledge the females side of their behavior(however whorish it is) but the side I cannot acknowledge is the cuck.

        A cuck is a sad subhuman who has devolved into such a vapid degenerate that he will actively seek his own shame and endevours to increase it to biblical proportions.

        The cuck is what enables the whore.

        Without cucks the female would have an extremely difficult time of being able to profit off their 'pump and dumptm' strat.

        Cuckoldry should merit a jail sentence as it actively ruins the human race

        Adultery should likewise follow suit

        [–]U-94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I wouldn't buy a house for my own mother, best friend, brother or guardian angel. Good luck to women looking for that nonsense. You rent your body. You rent this planet. You own nothing. Don't volunteer for slavery.

        [–]PranksterLad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Say we get older, as a man, I know we peak SMV 30, but it seems like girls in the 'best years of their life' dont want to be with men who are much older when we are in the best years of our life (30).

        They don't overlap.

        [–]patjohnson11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I mean, what if this guy had been pounding vag as a single man that entire 9 years then decided to settle down with his friend..

        [–]S-Blaze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        "Sometimes the nice guy does win!"

        Funny

        [–]throwitdownman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Oof. Tough read, even tougher reading the replies left on the original post. I just cannot relate to that world anymore.

        [–]DarkSyde3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Reminds me of the hilarity that ensued reading "Assholes Finish First" by Tucker Max. I'm surprised I haven't run into anyone talking about his literary works of fratire ever discussed here yet. Might've just missed them.

        [–]friendlynaboureeno 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This sounds awful, what a sad sap of a man

        [–]Low_Cost_Chimp_Meat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        All roads lead to MGTOW for men now....

        [–]swonranson17 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        He is genuinely the best thing to happen to me ever.

        This is an egocentric thing to say. It's as if this guy is one of her possessions that was made for her.

        [–]Pushthepedal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Don’t know if I can even read this

        [–]Wiry_Wireman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Alpha fucks, beta bucks

        Leaving that comment on that post isn't gonna redpill any of those bloopers; it'll only make them glad we're quarantined when they check your post history. Play the game, don't spout the rules

        [–]leviathan51 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Why do you comment on there though, OP.

        [–]Kenny_Twenty -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

        I don't know why some of you are acting like she did something wrong. She was just living her life while this doormat of a man laid himself at her feet at every opportunity. He got extremely lucky that she lost enough of a sense of value that she would entertain this fucking loser.

        I'm sure he got much better than he deserved. This man was fucking weak. The weak deserve nothing. Don't be weak.