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Building PowerPick Your Battles (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1TheProphetPhysiquiel

Sup fellas, got a short one for you here.

I saw a post today that included in it a bit about breaking things off with a girl, and her demanding he pay her back for lunch the previous day, despite his buying her dinner and movie tickets earlier in the week or some bullshit like that. Several of the commenters questioned his giving her the money, asserting that "I'm too alpha for that shit."

Giving her the money was the right call, good job bud.

You have to pick your battles fellas. A successful life isn't built through a one-hundred percent success rate (unless you're a trust fund kid in which case fuck off). In fact, a life like that would be unfulfilling. What would success mean to you if you never had to face adversity?

Success is a progression, in the simplest of terms. Success over time. You don't need to engage in every battle, you don't have to debate any moron, you don't have to deal with everyone's shit.

What's important to you? What kinds of things are worth your expense? You can ask this of yourself any time you're in a given situation, but the masculine man knows this intrinsically. He knows that he has to (E.g.) face constant scrutiny from his high-level job, and so he doesn't waste energy squabbling over petty matters. I'd even go so far as to say success in a petty battle comes not from whether or not you "won," but by how smoothly and how quickly you moved on from it. Do you think the Clintons have the time or energy to engage in every debacle, every sex scandal, every email controversy, every hostage situation gone awry? (Trump throws money at situations too, I respect the move from both sides.)

In this particular case, the easiest way to complete your goal, to get this girl out of your life, was to just give her the $15 that means absolutely nothing to her (this clearly depicted an emotional reaction resulting in her grasping for straws to either justify hostility against you or help her feel like she came out "on top"). Are you kidding me? "Here, take $20, get lost."

We aren't goddamn gorillas. Not every challenge means something in the world that we live in, but some challenges mean a great deal; focus on the latter. Give her $15, save your energy for #MeToo #NotLeftOutImJustAsImportantAndBrave. Observe the elite class of the South around the Johnson era: Send your pregnant daughter away to the cape to have the baby and pretend she's on a semester abroad, worry about the new up and coming congressman who's planning a tax raise in your county.

I think you get it by now.

Kavanaugh 2024?

EDIT: I guess $15 means a lot to some of you. But maybe exercise your critical thinking skills for once and relate this example to my post. She wants to be upset at him for something. She doesn't want this whole thing to be her fault, so if she can get him stuck on this $15 she wins. "He owes me money! I fucked him and he stole from me! LOOK AT HOW VICTIMIZED I'VE BECOME!" $15 is a small fucking price to pay to move on from what is clearly a lose-lose situation. Too many of you have these unwarranted, inflated alpha egos and you need people to know that you're just too good for that. News flash: You aren't shit. If every small thing is a big deal for you, you won't go far. If you take it personally that you need to give this girl money instead of looking at it for what it is, a shit-test (a shit-test you won't win), then I feel sorry for you. Your life must be exhausting; what with the constant dominance-assertions and checkmates. You're not going to win every time; better offer the draw than be defeated. And if you still can't ever possibly conceive of yourself losing a small battle to win the bigger war, then myself and the others who get it are all the better for it.


[–]Tuplad 65 points66 points  (5 children)

There was a post on here about a TRP idea and the OP put up a disclaimer going like: "guys, TRP is a tool, don't be autistic about it and follow it to the letter."

I really think a lot of men here are shallow and insecure, have a low body count and now have discovered TRP. It empowers them, but it gets in their head too quick that they are alpha and all that, when in reality, only thing that has changed is the way they look at women. No improvement of SMV, job, looks, whatever.

Some stuff I read here (especially comments) is cringe worthy, but a lot of it is great, applicable in real life and offers insights. Don't get too lost, TRP is a great tool, don't be autistic about it. Giving the money was the easiest and best way to get rid of her, and now someone somewhere thinks highly of you.

I'd include the disclaimer more often though :P

[–]Luckyluke23 4 points5 points  (1 child)

if 15 bucks saves you a headache down the line... I'm all for it.

it's like that old PUA rule. Don't by women drinks at the bar.

SOMETIMES that's ok. but the VAST MAJORITY of the time it's not.

[–]kiwifx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

15 bucks? I'd pay that shit weekly as an insurance policy, just for a number I can give out to a drama-prone bitch who needs to win.

Here, woman, call this number and speak to my people.

[–]Self-honest -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

I wouldn't have done it, but he fucked up offending her the way he did. So I think it was probably the right move at that point.

[–]Tuplad 6 points7 points  (1 child)

A wise man once told me, when someone lends money and never gives it back, you got off cheap. You paid for that friendship essentially. Imagine what misery those 15$ saved him in case she was some batshit crazy stalker.

We've spent money on stupider things.

[–]Self-honest -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

"Imagining" is the problem. That's what girl's do. I'm not afraid of some chick. She isn't going to do anything. Block everywhere. No contact.

Like I said, he played this poorly so the choice to pay her $15 to go away might have been in his best interests. But just don't fuck up to begin with then we're not even having this conversation.

Edit: I agree with OP's sentiment about picking your battles. Let's not lose the point and argue about the details of how it applies to this one situation (aka let's pick our battles).

[–]Blackhawk2479 22 points23 points  (4 children)

It’s not about battles, in his case he should’ve just ignored her.

Same result but he’s not down $15 too.

[–]arythmetic 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Possibly. I'd pay more than that to shut someone up however.

[–]Blackhawk2479 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I wouldn’t care enough to want to.

[–]arythmetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Doesn't change what's effective.

[–]Sluskarn 32 points33 points  (15 children)

How about don't give her that money, next her and move on with your life?

[–]g0dfather93 14 points15 points  (10 children)

IDK, I feel what this guy did is way more denigrating than nexting/ghosting. Someone literally paid her to go away from their life. It's emotionally scarring shit, and best part is that she asked for it. This is next level MaliciousCompliance stuff.

[–]The-Red-Vagabond 2 points3 points  (5 children)

The fact he gave her the money tells me she's just gonna keep doing what she was doing, because in the end, she got what she wanted.

[–]g0dfather93 16 points17 points  (2 children)

If at age 35+ $15 payback for a sandwich is "getting what you want" then there are much bigger problems here, frankly.

[–]The-Red-Vagabond 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You're not wrong even though her going out of her way to get 15 dollars back wasn't my point, my point was that if this was all it took for her to get payed back for something as abysmal as this then she learned nothing and will keep doing it to other people no matter what, for bigger or lesser things.

OP gave her the satisfaction of getting her way thus, giving her the frame.

[–]g0dfather93 6 points7 points  (0 children)

she learned nothing and will keep doing it to other people no matter what

Which is fine, once again, as the dude who did this is under no obligation to teach her a lesson. Eliminating the risk of getting a drunk call from an immature middle-age woman because you "swindled her out of $15" is totally worth $15.

Did she get satisfaction? Maybe. The whole point is that that isn't the point. Dude did the easiest thing for himself giving exactly the amount of thought to her reaction as she deserves - zero.

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who gives a fuck. She's not your problem anymore and she doesn't have anything that she can hamster over you.

[–]gixxerthouguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She might do - not worth the effort for 15usd.

[–]AreOut 0 points1 point  (1 child)

and get labelled as rapist when you apply for supreme court judge

[–]Sluskarn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good thing you got confirmation of consent after sex in text or other forms and saved it in case, as you should be doing already.

[–]btrpb 40 points41 points  (6 children)

Biggest load of bull I've read on TRP. Dating is dating. You don't ask for money back because it didn't work out. If someone asks you, just fucking next her and go about your business.

[–]EL_Miore 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I'd rather be down $15 than have to face legal charges for some girl's fanfic writing

[–]Blackhawk2479 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Except she’d already sent him texts saying she enjoyed the sex and wanted to hookup again. His ass was covered.

[–]Pezotecom 4 points5 points  (2 children)

And that is exactly what OP is saying, ass covered or not, are you gonna spent all that energy cause of 15 dollars? As other guy in this thread said, he has principles, and maybe he would have. Choose your battles.

[–]Blackhawk2479 7 points8 points  (1 child)

No, I would spend zero energy - and money - by ignoring her and getting on with my business.

As I said in one of my other comments, it’s not about battles in this example.

[–]Pezotecom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But again, that is the point.

Because to be honest, all the story seemed pretty beta to me. So that was a beta choosing his battles with the weapons he had.

I wouldn't have given her the 15 bucks either. You get what I'm saying?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right, everyone knows there are no refunds in dating. Women will use any excuse to leverage her social position to demand money for her sexuality - whether it's drinks, meals, refunds or alimony. Always wanting payment just for existing, always demanding money from us.

They do it because it works. It's high time this shit stopped so they learn not to even think in those terms.

[–]Fulp_Piction 5 points6 points  (2 children)

If it was a guy you'd tell him to fuck off, this is no different.

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Do you talk to girls the same way you talk to guyts? Do you treat them the same?

[–]Fulp_Piction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Usually only when I'm gaming the party in question, not the case in either situation here.

[–]Firebluered 22 points23 points  (2 children)

  1. The thing is, this issue is a trivial thing to discuss it, like you said about picking up battles, etc. I wouldn't let my mind take space about such a thing.

  2. That said, I wouldn't pay it, but that's me. I'm a guy with principles. But then again, if I did pay for it, I would say its a mistake, but not a huge one that you have to think long about it.

[–]_be_happy_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nicely summed up :)

[–]bigkids 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Goes to show how, as a man, you are only loved and adored as long as you can provide for. Not in all cases, but this shows in some women that think letting you hit the p*ssy is an investment to keep you close by and dispensing for them.

They're thought pattern: "I am giving him access to my most "valuable" asset, this "bomb" pussy" and it's sad that some think that is they're only weapon or tool to keep a man within reach.

Now, in this scenario, she can't get a refund on the pussy she gave the bloke, even though some women do, you might have heard as regretting sex, or regretting consent which leads to false rape accusations.

And obviously, you do not ask someone to return a gift that came from the heart, that $15.00 she paid was another "investment" she made in the man, an that she can ask back, so she did.

[–]grumpieroldman 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Saying "No" is zero effort.

[–]arythmetic 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Saying "no" is fodder. Not saying anything is zero effort.

[–]g0dfather93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Spoken like a man who's been in a relationship at least an year or longer.

[–]The_Lightskin_Wonder 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I thought op was bringing up a good point, but I think the example is a bad and is a battle he shouldve fought.

I'm a veteran and currently in my 5th year of my apprenticeship. I wouldn't be where I'm at now if I tried to make everything a power struggle. your general objective is to win the war. understand what the war is for and decide your battles from there, in the example given the war was based on spite and meaningless feelings. there was nothing to lose by winning, and nothing worth sacrifice ; yet he sacrificed his money in order to win. the objective was to leave her in order to find a new partner, and at no risk he couldve blocked her number and moved forward.

what are you fighting for? are you willing to let men die for this cause? can the cause be obtained in a more efficient manner?

48 laws of power have shown me how much it means to your superiors if you allow them to feel in control. and how much control you have over them when they invest their decision in your opinion. as an apprentice and trainee I've become familiar with the role of puppet mastery, and simply allowing people to think I'm not a threat until I truly can be.

Learn to smile , it psychologically makes you feel happy and puts you in a better state of mind, in which to decipher worthy engagements from the unworthy.

[–]rpthrowaway1104 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmao... it's 15 fucking dollars. the alpha move was not even to consider this minuscule decision through such an absolutely absurd lens of honor and ego bullshit -

Who is really paying the price - the person who chucks 15 measly dollars to cleanly cut ties with a failed investment to hedge against future BS down the line or the person ruminating over the metaphysical ramifications of 15 dollars as it relates to his pride and ego.

[–]_be_happy_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree with the post and whole idea, but in this case I would just laugh it off & next her. Why even bother to Venmo her shit? Would you give 15$ to a crying teenager only because he is loud and annoying?

[–]TheBadGoy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This only works on certain cases but it's not a good mentality to have. "Give someone Palestine and they'll take The Golan Heights"

[–]daddydraper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When you realize that you have a finite number of heartbeats here on Earth, nothing matters to you except that which is truly significant, even at the behest and complaints of those who tell you about the things you "should" be doing.

Nothing changes a man so much as a brush with the specter of mortality.

Don't waste your time, energy, or attention on anything less than what is truly important. Pick your battles carefully, yet tread boldly across the plains of existence.

[–]tekkato 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi OP I totally agree with your post. When my oneitis broke up with me, she owed me U$500. I'm a very proud dude (pre RP), sometimes too mutch. I thought about asking for my money, I really needed it at that moment. She texted me, saying she was going to try to return the money, but that now she could not. She started to use the money as an excuse to start texting and get validation. But as soon as she broke up with me, I started lifting and running (before knowing about TRP), I also
asked for a salary increase in my job and got it. I started saving a lot of money. And when she texted me again, I told her, that I didn't need the money anymore, so there was no reason for her to text me. Was the best think I could do. I said to me: "If U$500 (in my country is a lot) is the price I have to pay to close this and focus 100% on me, is not that much in the long run". She texted me after that a few times, last week too for my birthday, always hopeing me the best, and trying to meet me, I always replied with just a "tanks". I'm not even mad at her, never block her ( I think is week block a person, tho I have good selfcontrol), I just deleted her number and never initiate contact.

Offtopic: I knew the true nature of women since a very young age, I grew up with 4 sisters + my mother. I knew that a LTR wasn't for me, this was the first one I had. I had to tried and see for my self how it was to be in a LTR and trying to just be yourself. Never in my life had problems to get girls, next them, etc; since I was 14, I got used to aproach girls, and got rejected several times ( first party I went I got rejected 37 times lol), so I learned for myself how to aproach, and If I was refected, I would gave the girl a big smile, never got mad.

I want to thank you all of you guys, because, tho I knew the true nature of woman I never could figure out, why they were like that. I knew what worked and what not, but this forum give me the explanation, always thought It was something cultural, never aproach the subject from a biological level.

And the best thing this forum has in my opinion is the self improvement, I love it, and learned a lot. I always had a lack of focus and consistency, in that regard. Always just thinking in having fun, and not taking serious the self improvement.

Thank you so mutch!! And sorry for my poor english, not my native language.

[–]niklapton 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I dont know why the others arent really agreeing with you and before the downvote wagon gets here let me tell you, you are absolutely right. Picking battles is very important. Good thing that guy paid her her 15$ and moved the fuck on.

[–]EPArt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly 48 laws of power shit something about your reputation preceding you, and you needing to guard it. Saves yourself from potential drama later on. Next thing you know that bitch may have certain connections or run into you later and cause problems. Shes less likely to want to screw you over if she has no grudge against you. Imagine kavanaugh hadnt given her the $15 and thats why that happened, people dont think long term.

[–]Good-Boi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only a cuck would give that foid money. Shoukd have had a big laugh at her and moved on with his lyf

[–]Quaternionz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What the fuck is this post. Don’t give her the money and just move on. Ignore her texts or just block her.

Please downvote OP into oblivion here.

On a related note, women are total cunts about money in general. Pay for everything with your plates and don’t expect anything back. It puts you in the dominant position and it helps make you the unambiguous authority in your decision making when hanging out with them, assuming the decisions involve spending money (casually or otherwise). When you pay it makes them feel protected, feminine, and safe, which translates into a better overall gender dynamic. It’s your life and they’re just along for the ride. The ride is free (at least in terms of dollars).

The only time I’d ever consider letting a woman pay for anything would be if we were in an LTR and she had a decent job. But even then I’d rather find a way to live a lifestyle where I’m the sole provider and my LTR manages the house and the kids. She’d get an allowance and that’d be that.

Women love to use finances to hamster up manufactured drama. It’ll always be irrationally overblown and self contradictory. One month your LTR will literally be in tears because you were $40 over budget and let it spill onto a credit card. “She can’t live like this, she can’t handle the stress, she needs financial security, etc...” But then the next thing you know she’ll be planning out in excruciating detail how she’s going to spend your entire $25,000 savings on a one night party. If you try to tell her how batshit insane that is she’ll cry and very possibly end your 5 year long relationship.

Women are children. Zero money control for her except for an allowance. Zero.

[–]uppertiernormiecel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why is this sub so inactive? There are other subs who are just as active as they were before they got quarantined.

[–]BurnoutRS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me, any grief incurred as a result of not paying this woman is worth the money I kept in my pocket.

Ask not for a lighter load, but for broader shoulders

[–]standardmissile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's this autism derived fiction on TRP that all women are going to claim rape at every chance and you need to mitigate that risk with every interaction. Fortunately this is bullshit, so if someone says something stupid like 'you owe me 15 fucking dollars for that thing that time' when the ledger says they owe you...just hard next them. Appeasing asshohles is a good way to feel like a loser.

So much of TRP is about boundaries, in particluar saying no. To yourself (no junk food, nofap, no skipping gym etc) then no to others. If you can't say no to this sort of stupidity you'll never progress. Couching appeasement as pragmatism like OP suggests is hamstering.

[–]snowdenlaydying 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The correct behaviour in this instance would have been to disappear back in to the masses, never to be seen again. Pick your battles yes but know when not to take part in one.

[–]mineralranch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]PlanetNinja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This shouldn’t even be a battle. Just ignore the request and move on. Call it even for fucks sake. What is she going to do, report it to the credit bureau?

[–]Hyper_Sonik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not the point of it all. Your must be new here. It has nothing to do with the money and everything to do with power and her attempt to relinquish it. Smh.... And NO if you paid her the $15 I can almost guarantee that would not be the last you hear from her. You just played into her frame, more bullshit on its way from this chick.

[–]AllahHatesFags 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why give her anything? Ghosting her is free and easy.

[–]JuliusTestvola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could get her out of her life by blocking her phone number. thats free.

[–]yammyha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol at transactional cost of giving and taking ; capitalism

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What's important to you? What kinds of things are worth your expense?

Show weakness (paying her just because she demands it) shows that you're weak. There's nothing the leftist SJW feminists love better than a weak man, an easy target. They start with demands of money, then move onto pound-me-too harassment, then claims of rape and at every step the weak man tries to appease the oppressor by supplicating, apologising and paying.

Weakness invites attack: show none.

[–]Tripletag 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But you can just hand over the 15$ in this case and still remain secure in your own masculinity, right? I am on the side of the 'wouldn't pay' in this scenario, don't get me wrong, but don't you feel OP has a point in the sense that over-analyzing such a trivial thing really just displays you care too much about the damage this particular broad can do? That seems to me like a weak state of mind.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you can just hand over the 15$ in this case and still remain secure in your own masculinity, right?

Because you hand over money you're not owed to someone who just asks for it?

"Hey, I'm weak, have some money! Make some more threats and you can have even more money!".

but don't you feel OP has a point in the sense that over-analyzing such a trivial thing really just displays you care too much about the damage this particular broad can do? That seems to me like a weak state of mind.

Did you even read what I wrote? I highlighted the salient point in bold.

[–]tldrtldrtldr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Another unnecessary whataboutism

[–]Quaternionz -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You’re an unnecessary whataboutism man.

[–]EPArt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ignoring her gives her a excuse to keep bothering you and accuse you of rape or something. If shes local to you might as well, if she live miles away fuck her women don't pay shit back. Tbh i probably wouldnt of paid not in full. Maybe string her along or send her gift vouchers to some crappy place. Or pay in coins or foreign currency but that just be for my own amusement.