After lifting I attract a lot of women, but the right kind of. (self.asktrp)

submitted by FatmanO

After lifting I attract 10x more women. However, most women I attract are either average or below average. Why is that? Im 6' 1'' and have been lifting for a few months

[–]ShotgunTRP 193 points194 points  (35 children)

Because hot women have plenty of options and don’t need to approach men they are attracted to to get dick.

[–]neoda1 71 points72 points  (0 children)

plenty of options

This guy gets it.

[–]FatmanO[S] 5 points6 points  (32 children)

Any way options increase more when I lift more or is it almost the same? (Point of dimnishing returns?)

This is me at the moment from a bulked up (bear mode) body

[–]TheGillos 21 points22 points  (23 children)

I hear alarm bells when I hear bulked up. It screams fat, but lifts heavy. Get to that 10% BF and you'll be night and day.

[–]FatmanO[S] 1 point2 points  (22 children)

I used to be that, ill be skinny as a twig (if you see the last pic)

[–]Scriptopeia 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Which pics?

[–]FatmanO[S] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

[–]7and7UntilHomeless 50 points51 points  (0 children)

I honestly couldn't tell you lift.

[–]Thizzlebot 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.

[–]FatmanO[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ayy thanks <3

[–]Brushyourteethm8 23 points24 points  (15 children)

You look like a cunt 👌👍

[–]FatmanO[S] 5 points6 points  (13 children)

Ty, now show me your face

[–]mischiefkel 4 points5 points  (11 children)

There are no pics

[–]FatmanO[S] 3 points4 points  (10 children)

Here you go! Im slovenia by the way. Sloveniahttps://imgur.com/a/8BXBqYi

[–]look_good 14 points15 points  (2 children)

damn nigga u have an ok face but dyel...hot bitches will give ioi’s if u have striated arms, big biceps, massive calves, hard body, alpha demeanor, etc. also chew more gum or look into jaw exercises to line up ur jaw. we’re all gonna make it brah

[–]FatmanO[S] -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Thanks man, hopefully so. I have big calves from being fat, but I really wish muscle building would take faster

[–]2itiswr1tten 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Upload to imgbb or somewhere that auto deletes the link after x amount of hours. Don't associate your face with here

[–]PM_ME_HOT_GINGERS 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Go back to looksmax hahahahaha

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was down whole day, but Im gonna be back lol

[–]mischiefkel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay okay. Face is not bad. Still a little small (keep working at it) but much much better than the first pic. A bit more lifting (bigger biceps and chest) coupled with the right behaviors and confidence you definitely could get 7-9's

[–]TheGillos 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You look fine. Like a young Sean Penn, or a tall Dustin Hoffman. Keep lifting and lower your body fat. Don't say you're skinny, yeah, you need muscle too, but you are still skinny fat.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Damn, thought I was chubby-newbiebuilt.

Ill just eat and lift I guess

[–]Nathaestion 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]Radha1088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

me too

[–]Yoasted 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Youre gonna attract more while your more swole of course. Hell even going to the gym creates attractions because it's like, wow this dude actually cares and works on himself. And when you get huge, they know youve actually invested time and energy to becoming a better you.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Youre gonna attract more while your more swole of course. Hell even going to the gym creates attractions because it's like, wow this dude actually cares and works on himself. And when you get huge, they know youve actually invested time and energy to becoming a better you.

Im gonna start hitting the upper body more, its really fun to get swole

[–]04712244664 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Bro include semen retention along with your lifting and chicks are gonna eat you alive. I’m talking from experience

[–]lookoutitscaleb 2 points3 points  (4 children)

semen retention


[–]TheGillos 1 point2 points  (3 children)

No fap.

[–]lookoutitscaleb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What's the point?

Porn consumption is obviously terrible for people, but I don't know about No Fap.

[–]TheGillos 2 points3 points  (1 child)

People say it helps them focus. I've done it before (6 days no fap, 1 day fap) when I wasn't getting laid. I found I felt more masculine. But that could have just been frustration.

[–]lookoutitscaleb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I do.

The 6 no 1 with.

I did straight no fap for about 3 months maybe and around month 2 I noticed I got super irritable and rude, also more stressed. Saw the idea in Models.

[–]DntPnicIGotThis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is the correct answer

[–]Johnnadawearsglasses 82 points83 points  (10 children)

You barely lift and don’t look like you lift at all. When you look fit in a t shirt and jeans a girl will notice. Just being honest. You need to add like 15 lbs minimum. I am guessing that you don’t eat nearly enough or at the very least you don’t eat at the right times.

On top of that, an 8 or above isn’t going to go for you solely because you are fit. That’s like a base minimum to have a discussion. Career, personality, social network - you need to up your game to move up the pyramid. And the pyramid is always much smaller at the top. So to move each incremental 0.5 is monumental. Men on here talk about 9/10 all the time. I bet 90% of men have never seen a true 9/10+ in person. 9s aren’t the top 10% of women. They are like the top 2% and are clustered in large cosmopolitan cities.

[–]FatmanO[S] 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Hey, so Im not eating enough?

I have gained 10kgs or a little less in 5months, Id say half is muscle half is fat. How much would you say I should lift?

[–]alaskanarcher 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Dude get real. You've been lifting for several months. Real progress with weightlifting takes literal years. Keep that in perspective. You just started. You aren't going to visibly transform your body into a male model in a matter of months. You already have made changes to your body with lifting so keep at it but damn man, if you think that's going to make girls walk up to you and drop their panties then you are going to continue to be disappointed. Even with an awesome body, as others have said, this is a small piece of the entire equation. Find a better reason to keep lifting than girls. Find better reasons to do anything other than because girls. You damn well better like what you're doing for your own reasons or else chicks are going to pick up on that fake incongruent shit.

[–]TheGillos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But Chris Pratt did it /s

[–]careless93 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Check your macros. Half muscle and half fat for beginner gains I think is a bit off, I think it should lean more for muscle mass than fat. Try aiming for 1g of protein per pound of body weight, 0.25 grams of fat per pound of body weight (that's the bare minimum, you might want to eat a bit more; 5-10 grams) and them add the carbs. Look for vitruvian physique on youtube, I really like his dieting videos.

As far as meal timing is concerned I don't think it's really relevant, for me it isn't, try focusing on eating enough, don't really bother with the timing.

[–]FatmanO[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Thanks, so is just eating protein fine? I think 100-140g protein is fine

[–]careless93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It isn't. Unless you weight 100 lbs. What do you mean eat only protein ? If you're eating only that amount and then eyeballing the rest it's really clear why you gained half muscle half fat. I saw your pictures, it was a good progress, but without seeing your shirtless it seems you've gone from skeleton to marginally skinny fat. Fix your macros.

[–]kril89 0 points1 point  (2 children)

u/FatmanO look up the vertical diet

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Done, will look into It! Im bassicly paleo atm!

[–]I_Dont_Type 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paleo is damn good. One of the best diets out there as far as I can tell. I always try to gear my diet towards paleo.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Most women are average or below average.

[–]beachbbqlover 3 points4 points  (1 child)

In fact, exactly (50% - 1) of women are below average, which means "not most".

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Now add those to all of the average ones, and you have most.

[–]lesbianlimo 17 points18 points  (2 children)

You take way too many photos of yourself and are far too comfortable posting them.

[–]xx-Rain_Maker-xx 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Agree. This seems like a troll post.

[–]King-Manlet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never stop seeing him. Sadly isn’t a troll.

[–]saltyafrican 55 points56 points  (2 children)

Getting 8s and above is a different ball game. You need a lot more going on than just looks. Game, social proof, a great sense of fashion, a career or job where you are somewhat established, any interesting hobbies that are masculine etc.

I'm also 6'2, muscular and handsome and I think we also have it harder because people just want to shit test the hell outta someone who has something going.

[–]T-P-T-W-P 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The is true. Same height and I would describe myself similarly. I’m only 22 just out of school but will bag an 8 or 9 every so often but I still often fail just because when you approach or become interested, the question of “why is this guy not fucking someone right now” is on their mind. I’m not some perfect Chad but definitely lean much more that way than a beta fuck and chicks will dig hard to find out what is wrong with you. Think it’s pretty key to have attractive chicks in your social circle whether you’re fucking them or not. Much of the time I score high is when I’m out with girls too rather than just the boys, even when I’m not putting my best effort in.

[–]takobozu 9 points10 points  (1 child)

you look average, you attract average.

[–]FixYourselfFirst 9 points10 points  (20 children)

That's great. What are your lifts currently at, and what program are you using?

[–]FatmanO[S] -1 points0 points  (19 children)

I switched from 4 a week upper lower to 3x a week Ice Cream Fitness with removing some acessories 80kg SQUAT 5X5 62.5 Bent Over Row 5X5 (Going to do 35kg again next week cause of bad form) 57.5kg bench 5x5

Bassicly Im doing 5x5 ICF, my lifts are going up pretty good so I can tell you when I finish the program as they are improving every week.

Im not huge, but I have those newbie gains!

Pics: https://imgur.com/a/8BXBqYi (Last one is prelifting)

[–]inittowinit777 51 points52 points  (11 children)

Not to burst your bubble man, but right now you don’t really look like you lift. But keep pumping that iron and watch those muscles grow and the quality of women you attract go up. Godspeed.

[–]FatmanO[S] 10 points11 points  (10 children)

Thanks, I woudn't say I look like I lift, but I look a lot more healthy than I did before. I really wish time would pass more so I could have more muscle, but it takes time. 8 more months and Im there. I would say my SMV increased tho as I went from a skinny guy that was fat to a guy who started lifting

[–]inittowinit777 19 points20 points  (5 children)

That is correct. You’re definitely at a better place now than before you began. It’s only a matter of time and consistency now, just keep doing the right things.

[–]FatmanO[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Thanks man! May I ask how long do you lift for? Im gonna keep being consisent and luckily I learned TRP about young age, I already have the abundance mentality and lifting in these 8months, Im gonna improve everyday and see where I will be in next 3-4 months

[–]An_Actual_Politician 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Been lifting for 10 months and there is no line in the sand of when you suddenly look muscular. It's incremental gains, looking slightly better every month.

I'm in my mid-40s but 10 months of lifting still has me in a place where folks who haven't seen me in a while immediately comment on the change. I imagine that window of transformation is shorter the younger you are - assuming you're sticking to your program and going ham every time, as you should be.

[–]RP_Tesla 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Just as a heads up, you should never 'stop' lifting. It should be a regular habit of yours going forward. Keep up the good work.

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You guys should be careful with the lifting. My brother lifted for many years in his twenties, now he’s in his early 40s and has had many problems due to damage from lifting when younger - arthritic type problems with hands, carpel tunnel syndrome with wrist, constant back pains resulting in major operation in spine of neck due to our of place disc and damaged cartilage. Etc... it’s alright when you are young but time and old age catch up and it does damage long term.

[–]Thizzlebot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May I ask how long do you lift for?

you lift forever brah

[–]DntPnicIGotThis 2 points3 points  (3 children)

The increase in attention is probably because you feel more confident.


No disrespect but I can barely see gains based on your last picture but it was hard to stack on the muscle for myself as well in the beginning.

But I have confidence in a man who would open himself to criticism on reddit.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Last picture was actually prelifting, so you mean I got no gains diffrence from first and last picture? But thans!

[–]DntPnicIGotThis 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I know last pic was prelift I'm saying that the gains are not quite there yet but lifting does a lot for your mental swag in a very short amount of time. This can be more valuable than physical gains. Use it to approach hb8s and better.

[–]FatmanO[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

saying that the gains are not quite there yet but lifting does a lot for your mental swag in a ve

Thanks, I think I got some newbie gains but I definitly hope I will get more gains soon! I havent given up yet

[–]golden_juicebox 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Smile more in your pictures. Girls will not like you very much if you look depressed

[–]henry589 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t lift till you hit the 2/3/4 club

225lb bench 315 squat 405lb deadlift

Right now you are getting beginner gains you will plateau soon. Then it’s the hard grind part where you train for a month+ to even get an extra 5 lb in.

Tho if you are going for aesthetics I think a body split is better.

[–]gaki123 -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

No offense but you look like a MASSIVE dork

[–]geo_gan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How the fuck is that not offensive!

[–]gaki123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the joke

[–]FatmanO[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Why If I may ask?

[–]Chad_McCracken 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think you look fine, you're tall and attractive, so just keep lifting, eat some more food and you'll look damn good after a year or two. Just don't get too fat lmao

[–]blr1998 8 points9 points  (1 child)

not gonna lie you're an absolute twig. try again after another 18 months of lifting...

[–]FatmanO[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So I need to eat more? Im 87kg and I feel fat as I was ex fattry

[–]BluffButt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Because you are average or below

[–]fromdario 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lifting is the bare minimum to attract hotter women. You need a well rounded picture, immaculate features or just stupidly perfect body to raise a hotter women’s eyes that much more or let alone have her approach. Still there is a lot you can control.

Most guys I know who slay hotter girls consistently have very successful lives in every respect and run extremely tight game - partly a byproduct of the fact they legitimately don't have time for bullshit in their lives.

In terms of their facial features, they aren't the greatest looking but they are doing the best with what they have. However, all in good shape but more importantly living successful, happy, fulfilling lives and filled with the confidence, wisdom and self awareness that comes along with that.

They also still have to put some effort, just working smarter that’s all. Also don't treat a hotter woman as if she's that much hotter - I know that's 101 but its worth repeating.

[–]Peter_B_Long 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing is that you're not taking any action (besides lifting) to build attraction. You're just waiting around trying to peacock and get some girl to hopefully approach you.

Another reason is because average girls get hit on the most so they have the biggest ego's. They get so much attention and validation that they think they can have any attractive dude they see which is why you get more IOI's from them.

If you want a hot girl, go approach her.

[–]0ggles 2 points3 points  (36 children)

Maybe your face? Lifting doesn't fix your face which 6+ prefer.

[–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (7 children)

it's not his face but lack of game. He's lazy and doesn't want to learn. Are you new here? I am certainly not and seen such threads multiple times. He posts stupid questions all the time instead of reading specific material and trying to put it in practice.

[–]0ggles 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Been on the form for 3 months, but read material on TRP and PUA for awhile. Game doesn't matter much if you have a creepy looking face (sub 5).

[–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Game doesn't matter much if you have a creepy looking face (sub 5).

so you are newbie still and probably incel incarnate. Game matters the most of all three: looks, money/status, game.

[–]0ggles 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Quit projecting on me, I am Chad 8+ in looks. Females approach and IOI me first. I have a friend who is an incel and PUA/RP does not work no matter how hard he tries. If a person is creepy looking or gymcel tries to game a girl that 3+ above, it's game over.

[–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Picture or didn't happen. We are all chads on the internet. You seem like a keyboard warrior.

[–]0ggles 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm not attaching my face to reddit. Chad tier is when it is common for a HB7+ to approach or gives the thirsty look.

Yes, game is important but not much. Looks matter for the under 25 crowd.

[–]0ggles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm at a cafe, HB5 that sat beside me at a table, just blew off ugly dude (4) who just randomly sat down with her for 3 minutes doing standard PUA, lol. So much for looks don't matter much.

[–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

looks matter all the time. Just that game is essential tool in mans pocket. No game - no free sex. You have to pay for it one way or another.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (26 children)

I agree, probably my face

[–]0ggles 1 point2 points  (23 children)

Go over to truerateme and ask them for advice to lookmaxxx.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (21 children)

I did for a long time, but only way I can be above average is lifting.

Atm Im 5.25 and hit my looksmaxx potential

[–]0ggles 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If you are from eastern-euro, better to moneymaxxx. Fashion is way to flash your wealth as in watch and nice shoes.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks, but Im confused. Im gonna be easterneuro anyway, where most people are easterneuropean. Why is it better to moneymaxx?

[–]0ggles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eastern European women like wealth more than in other European countries. That is where a lot of mail order brides and models come from.

[–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (15 children)

Atm Im 5.25 and hit my looksmaxx potential

lol if this is not autism I do not know what is

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (14 children)

Thats what I was rated, by truerateme standards, not the normal. They have a rating scale of 9

[–]King-Manlet 0 points1 point  (13 children)

I’m sorry mate but they’ve inflamed your rating

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

Hey man, but Im tall and Slovenian (Not US standards, so I hope that counts) (You have to look that eastern european standards are diffrent), and If I can attract avg women I am avg

[–]King-Manlet 1 point2 points  (11 children)

I’m not trying to be a cunt but you’re below average in terms of face. Your height is above average, your body is average, your face is below average.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Yes I agree for my face. BUt its below avg in other countries. Its average-abv avg in balkan states. But I did hear that before, and Id totally agree with you. Luckily I live in Slovenia tho!

[–]0ggles 0 points1 point  (1 child)


You are somewhere between a 5 or 6, average looking. You need to put some lotion on your face and eat healthy, why do you look like you are in your 30s?

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imo most likely weight loss makes me look 21

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are those two things? Shops? Websites?

[–]rockyp32 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Look up mewing it’s about fixing tongue posture which is what grows your face and it’ll fix and posture issues and over time make you more attractive

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I lift already but rarely. when I remember

[–]ChadTheWaiter100 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Saw your pix brother. Your far from fit. You need to get on a real program. Not this kid hocus pocus. Dm me if you wanna get in shape and fuck pussy.

[–]BlackFire68 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a "right kind" of woman?

[–]exit_sandman 3 points4 points  (2 children)

What do you mean with "attract". "Attract" as in "women hit on me"?

If that's the case, you have to account for women usually only actively hitting on guys who are considerably above their league, because guys who aren't hit on them anyway.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Attract as women who have crushes on me in high school for example

[–]exit_sandman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Then what I wrote applies.

If you want women to transparently swoon over you without you actually lifting a finger, you have to bring more to the table than being fit.

Doesn't mean that attractive women are out of your reach, but it does mean that they usually won't walk the extra mile so you don't have to.

[–]Musicgoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look bro. Continue to work on yourself. But I think you should practice your game and bang a few average chicks. Sex boosts testosterone. Testosterone = more muscle. More muscle = higher SMV.

Strive for better but have fun in the moment. Bust some nuts!

[–]Wheysteve 3 points4 points  (4 children)

You are a good looking guy, definitely keep it up and in 6-12 months you will look fantastic. Ps try to add shrugs into your workout routine

[–]FatmanO[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Thanks man, made my day! Im already doing traps and gonna implemnent neck too! Hopefully Im blessed with some newbie gains!

What program do you do? I do 5x5 Ice Cream Fitness but heard its not good for aesthetics.

[–]Wheysteve 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Since you are still early in your lifting career, stick with 5x5 for your main lifts till you get good numbers. I am doing high and low volume day splits. It's winter so don't be afraid to increase your calories by A LOT.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks! But Im 6' 1'' and Im 86kg already, I was 75kg at start and even tho I take creatine, I dont have many calories left ot eat before looking fat :((

Is ice cream fitness good just for strenght or aesthetics too?

[–]Wheysteve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is always time to cut don't worry. Any program where you increase strength there will be some degree of "aesthetics" growth too, just keep yourself in some form of a caloric surplus.

[–]Nergaal 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]Flpgneves 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Work on your game.

[–]Saberinbed 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You probably have an ugly face. Settle with what you can get for now until you learn game.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What? No. If you have an ugly face anyway game deosent help

[–]Saberinbed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well if you attract girls within your rating range. You either need to be in a good social circle or have status to get girls a bit out of your league.

[–]barryg123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think they're the wrong kind? Do they have a mouth and two lips?

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being above 6 feet, with a good physique and good style, is sufficient to successfully open an "8." All it does is gain you an audience, without triggering her auto-rejection mechanism.

You will however get groped and cat called by lesser women, as bitches are basically running wild these days with no sense of decorum.

[–]acertenay 0 points1 point  (6 children)

How long did you lift to get notice these changes?

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

About 2 months for other people to notice due to nice chest genetics, 2.5-3months for everyone to notice dramatically. Im at 5th month

[–]acertenay 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Just took a look at your pics. You dont look like you lift at all (no offense). Why do you think you are getting more women because you look like a lifter? Maybe there is something else that changed?

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean not sure, maybe cause I was super skinny. Its probably cause Im tall too and don't look like I came from aushwitz camp anymore. Im just guessing tho

[–]wobbleelbbow 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Lol 2 months. Come back after 2 years kid

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I am lifting for more now, like 5. I cant speed up muscle growth

[–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you DEAF? Come back after 2 years of consistent lifting and diet. 2 years is bare minimum for adult. Only teenagers can pull off drastic changes in 3-5 months.

[–]Andgelyo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Lift more and grow a beard. You look decently attractive but your frame is super skinny. You give me a feminine vibe when I look at your pics. As well all know, the most masculine looking men get the most feminine (hottest) looking women. You never see a guy who looks like a girl be with a hot girl. It’s always an athletic, sharp faced, bearded guy with a tight haircut.

I.E. The David Beckham’s and Cristiano Ronaldo’s types get the hottest girls.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I cant grow a beard, but I can grow a stubble, is that fine? Am I too skinny? Id say Im on the chubbier side myself. ill definitly lift more for sure!

[–]Andgelyo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eat more. I’m 5’9 and 188lbs and I would say I’m chubby a bit. I do get compliments on my physique though

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A few months of lifting isn't jack shit.

[–]FatmanO[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its something tho

[–]57M2D2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, generally speaking, women date up, a 6 woman would date an 8 guy; a 7 a 9 and so on... and guys most often settle down.

You don't have to, you can hold off till someone who brings as much to the table as you do comes along, and by bringing to the table I mean in terms of looks, body, sex appeal and everything else that's important to you.

You could always trade-in: start with a 6 or a 7 (I would advice NOT to lower your standards below a 6); then ... as soon as you connect with someone better, just trade-in. Women do that all the time. Use the Force!

[–]ainihon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like thirsty women are after you. Don’t get me wrong there are hot thirsty women too. You’ll just have to do something a little further than lifting

[–]freew33zy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason is because you're not that great looking and trying to coast on looks tbh. You're not really big and don't have a great face so you will need game to fuck. You can develop it and the fact you're 6'1" and shit means that if you act it girls will allow it. We've talked before and I'm a TRM6 and in better shape than you but not magnificent shape myself and I'm not really at the point where I can coast on looks myself. My LTR is a TRM 6.5-7 who approached me first but she's also one of very few 6.5-7 (maybe 4 or 5) range girls who have ever done that for me, the other bests being close to average (5.5-6 happens more frequently). (And as a disclaimer, I have fucked other girls equally hot to her she's my LTR for reasons unrelated to the fact she approached me.)

[–]uwcscareerthrow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You aren't good looking enough to attract women based on just your face. I've seen your pics.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do I attract women then? Cause I still attract them with height

[–]uwcscareerthrow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This posts offends me a little bit. I mog you facially and was given above average scores on truerateme and bodywise but I have no attraction signals from women.

Again, I'm asian american :/

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but Im european still in high school. Also white people have scientifically more preference than asians against white women

[–]errrzarrr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A few months lifting.

And you think a few months is something. Don't be bitter about it, but being sincere here and for your own good have to tell that's nothing, it's a Long path

[–]NeedingAdvice86 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Stop believing in fairytales...a few months lifting isn't even getting started. It takes at least a year or more likely two years to get to even close to where the guys you see on youtube or Instagram are currently at.

You are just getting started and don't even have the strength or endurance yet to really pound out the reps and intensity.

You are just starting and shit doesn't happen overnight...work harder and diet is 80% of bodybuilding....eat fucking tons more, be consistent and patient.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It might have been just that I wasnt super skinny therefore the IOIS and I started dressing better

[–]geo_gan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Maybe you ugly? Ugly + muscles = still ugly.

[–]FatmanO[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good point but

Nah Im not ugly, I posted my pics in another post. If I was ugly I woudn't attract women at all. I attract tons of women (5-10 at a time in my school, but they arent the best looking, they are average)

[–]wobbleelbbow -1 points0 points  (4 children)

if you wanna pull hotties you gotta learn game and improve yourself. Such trollish idiotic topics like "I've been lifiting but I am still a virgin" ain't gonna fly here. You are well known troll and keep making childish threads. Your personality sucks, your needy attitude sucks and just about everything tells me that you are lazy fat fuck.

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How am I a lazy fat fuck if I lost 70lbs and lift consistently without breaks? Hmmm

Id agree I was needy, which I have fixed since last time.

[–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This topic is proof you haven't fixed shit

[–]FatmanO[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It means I attracted more women, what seems to be the problem

[–]SmartAdhesiveness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men can be rough on each other, as is apparent in this thread. Women can be rougher on us.

First, good for you for working on your physique. Keep doing it. But don’t do it for women. Do it for yourself. When you do it for yourself, for your own satisfaction, to achieve your own goals, that’s when you will get mental improvement to go with physical improvement.

Also, remember that women are not like men. Average women will give you obvious indications of interest. Women who get a lot of attention may notice you, but they also notice lots of guys they think are attractive... and who approach them.