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What's the deal with Los Angeles women? (self.asktrp)

submitted by PostglacialDial

I just moved to LA from NYC, where I've been for the past 10 years. I loved NYC. For men with their shit together there is no reason to settle down. Beautiful, fit, intelligent women are in abundance there and hookup culture is just how it goes there, and the women accept this fact.

LA confuses the hell out of me. First of all, the attractive LA woman seems to be almost a myth. Online, among the most attractive there's too much bad plastic surgery, bad dye jobs, tacky clothing, trashy tats. However, most women I see around here are frumpy, plain Jane types. On online dating sites I've never seen so many obese women in my life as I'm seeing in LA. I'm not sure what I expected but it wasn't this.

Apparently because the male to female ratio is thrown off here, even the fat, frumpy women are picky as fuck. I've had to lower my standards here so far. I could easily pull 8-9s in NYC on a regular basis, my last girlfriend was a runway model - above my league lookswise, if I'm to be honest. Here in LA, I can't seem to get above a 5-6. Maybe I don't understand the culture here? I almost feel like I'm going through some sort of culture shock. An LA 9 is a NYC 6.

I'm Senior Partner at the top marketing firm in my niche, make 6 figures, 6'2", over 40 yrs old, full head of hair, in shape. I'm willing to look inward if there's something wrong with that picture but this place is so different than I expected. Can anyone familiar with the LA landscape give me the rundown? Thanks.


[–]PCS3000 143 points144 points  (32 children)

I bartended on the Sunset Strip for 4 years.

First off, making 6 figures in LA isn't shit. Second of all, unless your high up in the entertainment industry, you ain't shit. NYC is far better in terms of nightlife and women for single guys. Your social status is what matters in LA. Seriously, you could be a doctor in LA and you're a fucking nobody.

Here is the problem with "LA Women" - most of them are seeking careers in acting or modeling and they get hit on so much by desperate broke douchebag actors, agents, and producers that they shut down any guy that isnt famous, willing to advance their careers, or have shit tons of cash so they refuse to talk to any regular old Joe all together. The only reason I got laid quite frequently is because I worked in bars and clubs so my female coworkers and bar regulars were usually horny. I slept with an actress or model only a handful of times. They are all looking for the next best thing and guess what? You ain't it. Do you have a Lambo or a huge house in the Hollywood Hills? Probably not.

Dan Bilzerian is the king of LA and he basically said because of his money and notoriety is why he gets laid all the time and why chicks are all over him. That's it, no magic. Thats the angle.

For example - I fucked a Ukrainian model one night up in the valley and after she saw the car I drove, she never spoke to me again. Women are shallow and cruel in LA unless you have something to offer them, then the moment you don't, you're history.

[–]sehns 22 points23 points  (7 children)

Based on my limited experience with LA women I agree with all your points.

Just curious, whats the car you drove? Was it just an average car or was it a beater?

[–]PCS3000 29 points30 points  (6 children)

At the time (2014) I was in a Mercury Mountaineer I packed up after college. At that point, it was a serviceable beater. I drove her home the next day from my apartment in Sherman Oaks to her place in WeHo and it was just an awkward silence. I knew within the first 15 minutes of being in LA that unless you drove a Mercedes, Range Rover, BMW, etc, you were going to be looked down upon by girls.

Just the nature of a vapid materialistic city.

[–]sehns 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Yep, and Russian girls who have come to America dial it up to 11

[–]PCS3000 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yep, a very cold people.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What does "Dial it up to 11" mean? English is obviously not my first language.

[–]myroommateisasian 1 point2 points  (1 child)

On the scale comparing how much the women value cars/money/status (1 being low and 10 being high-end), she exceeds the scale to 11 (even more extremely ruthless)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Now I understand. So theyre adding one point more to the scale of whats expected haha Thats crazy.

[–]TheRedneckbeardPill 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Ukranian girls are the best for learning RP principles. Had 4 encounters, all you can do is fuck them and ditch them. Nothing but a burden. Had the best learning experience with them.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Slavic girls are “Hypergamy on Steroids” - the “Slavic Unicorn” myth is exactly that, a myth - but you can manage them if you have steel Frame - and I mean Titanium Steel Frame. If she’s not mildly annoyed with you half the time, then you’re doing it wrong.

Also, if a girl is hot and in the States, though that can be problematic for a couple of reasons. First, a Slavic 6 is an American 8.5 and a Slavic 9 is a US 12. I know, the scale doesn’t go that high, but that’s how it is. Second, you don’t know her prior circumstances or what she had to do to make it to the US. There are some real sharks dressed in minis and heels.

[–]TheRedneckbeardPill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah "manage" them. I live in Germany and all of them I have met became boring af as soon as I got behind their beauty fassade.

Last one started perfect. Low count, submissive and excited to see me. But the day I wondered if she could be material for more -- she went dead inside.

I didn't say anything, it was just as she could read my mind. Opened my eyes how well calibrated women are. Can't fool them.

Either you are the real deal or you can go fuck yourself.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Funny shit, saw Dan in a strip club I was at in Vegas. (With his usual gaggle of girls) Talked to one of the strippers and she said he never tips. Most don’t talk to him. Said hes socially awkward. Not hating on him, I probably wouldn’t either.

[–]ValorElite 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The Joe Rogan podcast with him ruined the mystery around him. He's just an average joe with hella money.

Still want his lifestyle tho

[–]WolfofAllStreetz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Missed that podcast ill check it out.

[–]yumyumgivemesome 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I've been torn between moving to LA and moving to NY for a year just for the hell of it. I was already leaning in one direction, and you gentlemen have confirmed it.

[–]PostglacialDial[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

It's not even a question. Go to NYC. Especially if you're younger. About 200k more women than men. Also one of the most in shape cities in the US since people walk everywhere. It's rare to see fat people of any race or socioeconomic background. This map is awesome: http://jonathansoma.com/singles/

[–]yumyumgivemesome 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, that's an awesome map. I recommend that others tinker with the age ranges to see that virtually every city favors women in dating within our preferred age range, but of course NY >> LA. For example, between the map's default range of ages 18-64, LA has 17 unmatched men per 1000 people and NY has 24 unmatched women per 1000 people. However at the age range of 18-44, LA has 61 unmatched men and NY has only 27 unmatched men.

[–]EdvardMunch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Makes sense. I came to NYC as a trial period and due to many circumstances have hated the hell out of it. The one thing I'll miss most of all is the countless attractive single women every time you turn your head. I'm gonna kick myself so much leaving to the midwest again.

[–]PostglacialDial[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Seriously, you could be a doctor in LA and you're a fucking nobody.

Ouch. Shit. I guess I need to get over myself then. I'm definitely no schmuck but I suppose men can get away with lot less on the east coast due to scarcity of men who are educated/successful AND single.

Question, would you say most of the attractive women are concentrated in the entertainment industry? I'm trying to figure out if my type even exists in LA as it does in NYC. My type is educated, petite (no boob jobs or big fake asses), elegant, sharp style and works in a creative or design field. Think Natalie Portman or Sophia Amoruso physically. Beautiful, but toned down and a little understated. These women are in abundance in NYC. Do women like this exist in LA in any relevant numbers?

[–]PCS3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude there is nothing wrong with you at all. It sounds like you're a successful handsome businessman who enjoys the finer things in life like every man on this board but you're a round peg in a square hole coming from NYC to LA.

The most attractive women in LA is all perspective based, my taste are probably a lot different than yours. I bartended with a lot of tattoo/peircing girls with huge tits that bragged about sucking dick and how kinky they were. I always seemed to work with these chicks that had zero shame. I didnt mind it at all because I didn't have to try and since I have a beard and tattoos that helped my cause with these damaged crazy women. I'm not the tall Chad Thundercock type at all and rarely ever fucked the tall blonde types. My advice is only subjective to my own experiences but in your case I'll give it a shot:

If you're looking for a petite educated type that vibes with your NYC business motif then my best guess would be to spend time around Westwood (by UCLA campus) Barneys Beanary (there are multiple locations in LA) so go to the Westwood one, Sepis, Roccos, Mom's Bar, the Glendon, and my favorite was Q's but its a pool hall/billiards place loaded with Nurses, educated tech types, and reasonable women without blonde hair and fake tits that look like they were designed in a lab by Hugh Hefner. The reason I reccomend this area is the proximity to UCLA plus its a great neighborhood. I hope the helps.

Downtown LA is so hit or miss and it seemed to evolve every three to six months. I have no idea if its still open but every St. Patties Day we would go to a bar called Seven Grand (its a bourbon and whiskey bar with amazing women) parking is a bitch but Uber down and experience an old fashioned there. Try the Edison too. Just stay out of Hollywood, too many tourists and jabronie dudes.

[–]garrypig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go watch Californication. He gets laid because he’s a writer. His friend only does because he’s a producer.

[–]NPC72521 7 points8 points  (5 children)

"most of them are seeking careers in acting or modeling". Most? really?

That's a cliche people in the midwest believe. That's not true in LA, far from it.

Not even true on the Sunset Strip, but CERTAINLY not true in Orange county.

[–]PCS3000 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I don't what part of Hollywood you were in, but well over 75% of the girls I encountered or worked with were either working as or aspiring to be models, actresses, singers, dancers, set directors, make up girls, doing Youtube channels and podcasts. I ran around The Roosevelt, The W, Supperclub (RIP), The Mondarin, Chateau Marmont, The Standard, Bootsy Bellows, Saddle Ranch, State Social, The Parlor, Comedy Store, Katsuya, etc so maybe I was just exposed to it more often than not.

[–]NPC72521 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fair enough for your experience. You were in a small high end sub-community. Different world than the other 9 million people in LA area.

[–]kainvictus 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Probably cause you worked in the service industry. LA is big and full of different tribes. The women you describe exist but there are plenty of chicks working real jobs that aren't complete nut-jobs.

I think the biggest problem with LA is that there are more men then women and the men are typically better looking in comparison. Your physical SMV only goes so far there so you gotta have something else going for you if you want to pull quality women.

It can be a tough city no doubt. But there are still loads of women.

Fuck I miss LA lol.

[–]PostglacialDial[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's the exact opposite - there are more MEN than women in LA.

[–]kainvictus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry that's what I meant. Fucking dyslexic sometimes lol.

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truth

[–]BraindeadIQ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did Dan Bilzerian talk about this? Joe Rogans podcast?

[–]moresmarterthanyou 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Dan Bilzerian is the king of LA and he basically said because of his money and notoriety is why he gets laid all the time and why chicks are all over him. That's it, no magic. Thats the angle.

All correct. This town THROWS money at girls that are remotely cute. If you are talking to an 8 or above, they are not used to paying or working for anything - they literally have a free ride in this city to do what they want and if you arent willing to provide it, they have 5 guys texting them that will.

[–]Ekhochambeer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t think he pays girls.

[–]takobozu 28 points29 points  (2 children)

LA is a fucking miserable place and you are getting too old for it.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This. LA is a sun-filled mortuary where you don’t notice that you’re rotting.

[–]PostglacialDial[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the honesty.

[–]Disike 36 points37 points  (14 children)

SoCal native here. Never liked going to LA unless going out for clubs or events. Cali is huge. the best area is Orange County. Nice and clean and probably more of the women and scene you would expect from SoCal

[–]roeyjazo 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Can confirm. A night out in laguna beach/newport/the bungalow in huntington beach is way more fun than a shitty club in LA with overpriced drinks and bitches who think their smv is high. Girls are attractive and more social. Also all the girls are relatively close in attractiveness so most know they have to be atleast good conversationalist

[–]izzyinjurious 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I live in OC and this is true. Vegas is also close by. Kinda lol

[–]theincrediblegulk 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Orange County native here, I agree and disagree. The area is nice and clean and the women are smokin; however, from my experience a good portion of the women are also pretty boring and materialistic. That's not to say there aren't cool chicks - I've met a ton of them, but a good percentage are hallow and boring because they're attractive and they know it and because daddy spoiled them growing up. They all think think they're the next OC housewife. Man, I miss it though.

[–]ScratchinCommander 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You may want a Midwest girl, beautiful, know how to be feminine and they can squeeze milk out of the cows tit.

[–]Xhaka-Laca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, even though OC is clean you can’t compare the quality of women to the ones in LA. West Hollywood, Santa Monica et....

[–]RedSkeller 3 points4 points  (1 child)

True story, I lived in SD for a year and my buddy was up in LA. Everyone there was incredibly fake and pretentious, to the point where it was so obvious it was considered normative. People chasing the acting dragon, wanna be this, doing drugs, way too old for the lifestyle but just out there because fuck daddy and his money. SD was very chill, I lived in a quieter neighborhood away from the beach bros, and had a great time - no problem pulling from the local bars. Good people, mostly transplants but the 100 mile difference was noticeable. And yeah you’re going to find more tattoos but I have no problem with that. Really miss that place, it was perfect.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True abt SD. The only real downside there is the M/F ratio is skewed because of the Naval base. I suspect that is more of a problem at the margins, though. If you know what you’re about you’ll do fine.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUEMcGill 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You can't swing a dead cat in Irvine without hitting a smoking hot Vietnamese chick.

The first sign of intelligence in LA, "Welcome to Orange County"

[–]ouroborus_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And relative conservative values

[–]PostglacialDial[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've talked to a few Asian women out here, one Vietnamese, one Philipino, one Korean. All 3 were kind of batshit, materialistic. I notice a lot of "tila tequila" type of asian women too.

[–]ScratchinCommander 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Most of California is a shithole, get your business done there and the leave, is my suggestion

[–]JW_2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah San Diego seems more my speed, but I’ve also heard it’s kinda boring?

[–]Hyperintelligentwolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

San Diego is equally as nice and classy.

[–]SheenCharlie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I second this

[–]unique_leek_critique 26 points27 points  (10 children)

NYC is the best city for dating in the US. Hottest women, models, chicks dress well, stay fit and take care of themselves.

LA's alright, you're just spoiled from NYC. You'll never get an atmosphere like that again because it's unique.

LA is probably the second-best compared to NYC. SF women suck- mostly fat and lazy, don't put in effort and bitchy. Chicago girls can be hot and family oriented but they all try to settle down by the time they hit 25 so there's less of a pool unless you go for divorcees. Denver chicks are okay but very crunchy.

You're just in a lower tier city for dating than NYC, nowhere else like that exists unless you leave US.

[–]animal-mother 15 points16 points  (2 children)

What do you mean by crunchy?

[–]ladzappalin 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Granola. Hippy dippy

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He means “Birkenstocks” and “Can do macrame with her armpit hair”.

[–]JW_2 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Lol 100% true about Chicago women. I know many from college and they are al married by 24-25.

[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I cannot believe this is the case in Chicago. Do you mean a Chicago suburb or downtown area?

I figured alot of city chicks especially in one like Chicago would try and wait until 30 to marry because they want to experience that city life

[–]smirk_addict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What’s your take on Austin? Thinking of heading that way.

[–]kenpachitz 2 points3 points  (1 child)

but very crunchy

Huh?

[–]plenty_of_eesh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the gore-tex and crampons... Need an extra strong bite to get through those, can get stuck between the teeth too.

[–]Hyperintelligentwolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right. In Saint Louis, you can't get a bitch unless you're a badass killer thug who's been to jail and back a few times. Once you get out of that shit, you get the respect of the top %10 of females. They worship you.

[–]bootymage69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

been to SF and Chicago you got it 100% right

[–]derrtderr 35 points36 points  (13 children)

You’re getting old.

Nah man I dunno. LA sucks. I wouldn’t live there by choice.

[–]PostglacialDial[S] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

What would be your reasoning for not living in LA?

I'm originally from Australia so I guess I don't really understand the nuance of different micro cultures of the USA overall.

[–]derrtderr 26 points27 points  (2 children)

It’s way too overcrowded. Sprawled out, legendary traffic, expensive, high crime, bad taxes, shitty air quality. There are much better parts of California. Do you have to live in LA?

There’s some nice parts of LA but overall I’d go somewhere else.

[–]PostglacialDial[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Do you have to live in LA?

For now, at least. I'm here to build up a new branch of our firm. All of our west coast clients are in LA. So it just made the most sense.

[–]derrtderr 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Well, in that case I recommend you take some weekend trips out of LA to check out the rest of the state.

[–]NPC72521 1 point2 points  (2 children)

40-50 is the most desirable age range for women who are looking for men.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/

[–]masterpiece00 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Depends how old you look/act really, dad or meathead 40's vs past life baby face.

I'm 34 and get told i look mid 20's.

[–]PostglacialDial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Thanks for the article.

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      [–]NPC72521 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Perhaps. But particularly in cities like LA, money and stability are very important... which basically everyone here attests to, and that almost always means being a few years older on average than in other cities.

      [–]imtheoneimmortal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You wouldnt live there only cuz of womens?

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      [–]PostglacialDial[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Thanks. Makes sense. I'm kind of at the point where I can't tolerate women under 30. Too much drama, too childish. I'm focused more on 32+. I work in a creative field, marketing and advertising. I'm not sure if that's under the "entertainment" umbrella here.

      [–]sehns 20 points21 points  (3 children)

      You need to do it the LA way. Use your marketing firm to launch promotional campaigns that require casting and promoting models. Hold a casting audition at your office. You will have a line of about 50 of the hottest girls you've seen since moving there running outside your office. You're an executive right? Put a job out for an assistant, same deal. Get the cute young assistant first to be there to help with interviews.

      [–]PostglacialDial[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Haha, I've definitely thought about this. I do castings all the time, have yet to do one here in LA but it's going to happen, you can bet. Sooner than later. Thanks.

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        [–]sehns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        It's cliche but it works. I remember I was in Canada and wanted to get some online video promotional materials done.. I was offering just $50 for about 10 minutes of work. We put ads on craigslist and modelmayhem and we were flooded with inquiries from girls, we had about 10 show up to my apartment which was converted to a studio and none thought it was weird.

        [–]Smubii 15 points16 points  (3 children)

        6'2 making 6 figures. In LA, you're a dime a dozen

        [–]PostglacialDial[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        that's unfortunate. We're in shorter supply on the east coast.

        [–]Smubii -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        I stayed in DC for 2 months. I'm 24. All the girls are stuck up and impossible to talk to. All stuck up college girls. It's not just LA :(

        [–]EnthuMotivInspir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I spent a year in DC and hooked up with plenty. Very similar to the NYC scene, but more feminista/educated types.

        [–]Impulsive666 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Make sure you don't get doxxed.

        [–]PostglacialDial[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Yeah, I should be more careful. I stupidly posted this on an extremely PC subreddit before and it nearly got to that point, they were so angry.

        [–]FemtoG 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        NY is ridiculously good for single men. that is all.

        [–]JW_2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        A gay man told me this and he said the reason is because most of the guys in NYC are legit douche bags, so as long as you’re a decent guy you’re way ahead of your competition

        [–]RedHoodhandles 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Wow. City of angels? Quite the opposite it seems.

        [–]red_matrix 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        LA died in the 90s. Used to be amazing.

        [–]HoldenCoughfield 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        I lived in LA for a year and the best decision I made thereafter was getting out of there. Ratios are bad, inundated with losers that are truly not your “competition” but clog your drain of prospects, overpopulation, dirty, truly non-assimilated culture, and some of the worst traffic you’ll experience. Making friends there can be extremely difficult as well. There are other “hub” cities for successful guys your age and younger, including but not limited to Charlotte, Nashville, Charleston, The Bay Area, Cincinnati, DC, etc. I don’t know your situation entirely (obv) but I would think twice before spending your remaining years of game and professional development in a place that is as identity confused as some of its population.

        [–]PostglacialDial[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Thank you for confirming what I suspected.

        [–]babybopp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Op the entertainment culture as fucked up the mindset of the girls bad. Every one of them thinks they are the next kardashian and they will fuck anyone with an iota of direction headed there. U have to amp it up to seem like u are a promoter. Otherwise forget it

        [–]KettleLogic 2 points3 points  (10 children)

        Lol, don't come to Sydney.

        [–]PostglacialDial[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

        Left there 11 years ago :x

        [–]KettleLogic 4 points5 points  (4 children)

        Good decision. What you describe sounds like sydney. Except there are hot women but they are fucked.

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          [–]KettleLogic 1 point2 points  (2 children)

          High standards even if unearned

          rude on approach

          not much personality to worth ratio

          mean girl on rejection

          publicly crusify if possible

          pack mentality

          proud to shut you down

          double standard on lots of shit

          It's a unique cosmos of terrible. A lot of pua have written that if you can make it here you can make it anywhere.

          Think cali beach with wealth entitlement in the high end sorority is maybe an American example I can think of

          [–]bluechipmonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          can confirm, met some traveling Aussie chicks in US and they were all what you described above

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            [–]KettleLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Melbourne is much easier. Feminist bend but as it's our more progressive city. Women aren't as attractive I'm not sure ifn thry are easy to talk to in general or just by Sydney standards

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              [–]KettleLogic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              That's not taking in the chief demo but.

              [–]Andgelyo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              28 year old from metro NJ/NYC area here. Lived here most of my life. Yes, NYC is the shit. It’s the greatest city in the world imo. I never liked LA and understood the hype about it to be honest. I don’t have plans to go there anytime soon. From what I hear, west coast is full of betas anyway.

              [–]freew33zy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Idk what you're talking about with "no beautiful women." I travel a good bit and I have not been to NYC but LA stood out head and shoulders above every single other city I have been to. But I will say: the dudes there stood out as well. I was staying in AirBnBs and one of my hosts was the definition of a Chad. Got to know him a bit: self-earned a 6 figure salary, 25 years old, moved from Europe himself to pursue entertainment in LA, and most importantly he was as close to a 10 as I've seen from a dude irl. 6'2", jacked, six pack, no homo but still the best male face I've ever seen.

              And I overheard him talking to his friend/roommate that "it had been a while since he'd been laid." He had social skills too. And that was the day that I realized my 5'9" ass would quickly become a permanent virgin if I moved to LA. Competition there is unreal.

              (Note: on the flip side, a mid-40s guy I stayed with pulled an absolute dime while I was with him too. So I guess mileage varies)

              [–]BrodinsOats 1 point2 points  (6 children)

              What part of town do you live in? Whereabouts do you go out?

              [–]PostglacialDial[S] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

              I sublet in a few neighborhoods before settling down in Silver Lake but I'm open to moving to a different part of town. Before, I was in Echo Park, West Hollywood (big mistake), and Downtown. I've gone to a few dive bars here and there but I think I'm too old to be heavy on the scene like that. Thinking about joining neuehouse for work/networking purposes.

              [–]PCS3000 12 points13 points  (4 children)

              Go to the Hermosa Beach Boardwalk. That was my golden goose. Theres like 30 bars all within walking distance. All of them are jam packed with girls

              [–]sehns 12 points13 points  (2 children)

              I love real, actionable tips for the OP like this

              [–]PCS3000 4 points5 points  (1 child)

              Thanks. Most dudes show up to LA thinking it's going to be like Entourage or Spring Break and its only like that for .001% of the dudes lucky enough who make it big. I worked in Hollywood forever and got tired of it so I would mosey on over to Hermosa to party on my days off which was more my crowd. Day parties on the weekend there were insane. There is a bar called "American Junkie", go on a Saturday night in July and it's game over.

              [–]PostglacialDial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Yeah I think that was the most confusing part about it to me. I'm used to NYC where all you need to do is sit down literally ANYWHERE in Manhattan and you're bombarded with people. People approach each other all the time everywhere because there's so many of us. Even for shy people it's hard not to be constantly presented with opportunities to meet people. Here it's just..... a ghost town. If you aren't plugged into a network already, they're not gonna come find you. Plus, the bars closing at 130 is a real killer for nightlife overall. A friend told me that the real nightlife is through private clubs and private house parties but again, you need to already be plugged into a network for that. I've been too spoiled for the past 10 years and I guess I forgot how to go out and really socialize because I never had to work too hard for it before.

              [–]PostglacialDial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Thank you

              [–]red_matrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              LA is a cruel siren that beckons all then destroys them mentally after arriving. Enter at your own risk.

              Get out of LA, run don’t walk. You’re in the center of Hollywood, looks and money are currency, it’s why hot girls and rich men get easy access to the best clubs, the rest - don’t. It’s Instagram culture amplified. Also - don’t you notice how women (even hot women) are covered in tats? It’s insane, I think the women there are truly confused because the media presence there is so insane. LA seems to be a community of walled gardens, and if you’re not rich (LA rich) then you won’t be allowed to play.

              If you must stay in LA - do you have to commute or work from home? Since LA is a city of cities, there are good patches (but far from beach) to choose from - the further our the better, but commuting kills the soul. Try to get outside more when you can, join up with some hiking groups to meet people if you can, networking events etc. The problem with LA is after work people just don’t want to be driving all over the city to meet up so you need to find the right area to live. West LA is where singles are, West Hollywood for the 20s crowd (and models) but I’m sure you know this already. In all honestly if you aren’t a millionaire seriously consider moving, the traffic, cost of living, crime and bad dating scene isn’t worth. Most people I know plan their exit after they arrive, and more people are leaving LA than moving there. It’s just not worth it.

              [–]bobbilly641 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              so many facts in this thread. los angeles is the “hypergamy capital” the women are out for that loot here.. its just one big movie set. i’m no where near 6-figures but i manage to hit the gym & stay styled up.. work on my inner game & keep a charismatic demonstration of who i am. capitalize. when the right opportunities come. nothing with woman is permanent / unconditional, like we men would want it to be. they come and go with the wind.. especially here in LA. these cali bitches are savages man. Got spun out over a few “next-best-thing seekers” its like theyre all running through toys-r-us on a looting spree lol. us dudes dont have a chance here. learned to just keep it pushin. enjoy the ass, be grateful for the few days / week she stays in touch and keep moving. its hard out here in LA for a red pill, player.

              [–]Xhaka-Laca 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I don’t which part of LA you spend most of your time in but there are a lot of good looking girls. I’m in the night life industry and I’m constantly surrounded by dimes. Go to West Hollywood on a weekend & tell me the girls are ugly. It’s true, girls in LA prefer guys with status, thats why Dan Bilzerian is king of LA. Just be a fuckboy and know the right people, you’ll love LA.

              [–]ashhjr 2 points3 points  (4 children)

              LA has by far the most top quality women, but it's just gonna be tough competing with other men with high status.

              [–]PCS3000 5 points6 points  (1 child)

              You Nailed it.

              You better be a fucking G to pull high end ass in LA.

              [–]takobozu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Do you think a fucking G would spend his time on Reddit? OP is probably an average Joe with a victim complex.

              [–]red_matrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              You don’t need to go for 10s. OP is saying even the 7s act like 10s, and that’s a problem, the female ego is waaay to high and not worth it. LA is superficial in its special own weird way.

              [–]PostglacialDial[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Where do they live and how old? What do they tend to do with their lives? Are you talking about the Hollywood actress/waitress-on-the-side types?

              [–]epushepepu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I live in LA. Been here for 2 years. Originally from DC. First year I lowered my standards. Fucked my first fat girl. Fucked milfs and 5-7’s. Just the other day at this bar called “MAMA SHELTER” a high 9 told me I’m cute. I said thank you and moved on. But one thing I learned is to improve your social circle. It’s probably the only way to get girls to notice you.

              [–]Virgin_Elf_Master 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              You need at least 20 credits on your imdb page to even have a CHANCE in LA

              [–]GucciGangBucks 0 points1 point  (2 children)

              I didn’t read your post totally but Im sure I know where you’re going with it. In LA your competition is literally Brad Pitt, And Celebrities for SMV. It’s a battle you can’t win. Liberal feminist also feel entitled too Brad Pitt. Move to Texas.

              [–]Xhaka-Laca 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              This is true, last night I was at a halloween party and Chris Brown was there, chatting with the same girls all the regular guys were talking to. At the end of the night guess who they’ll leave with. In the words of Chris Brown “ Don’t be mad about it, these girls be for everybody”

              [–]GucciGangBucks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Name of the game. I don’t know why anyone would live in LA. Take your ass to San Diego. Better there anyways.

              [–]WestCancel654 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              home of porn industry

              [–]1Badmunki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              I used to live in NYC and NYC does have more attractive women than LA but only because NYC is a larger city and a larger single female to single male ratio. LA has more attractive women based on per capita population imo. Don't even start with an "LA 9 is a NYC 6" , come on bruh. I get your frustration but let's be realistic here. Makes me wonder where you are going to meet girls.

              Anyways, the Hollywood culture permeates throughout southern California to an extent with the epicenter being in West LA. The further away from West LA, the less you will be in the "scene", so to speak. Which is what I advise for someone not in the entertainment industry, LA is a wide and diverse landscape. Something that you are probably having trouble with is the culture here, as you know its much different than NYC. It could be anything from your humor/personality to the laidback lifestyle here. I have met several native New Yorkers who have relocated to LA only to move back because all said they just couldn't adjust to the culture here.

              You never said how physicaly attractive you were, the culture is much more image conscious here then NYC. You can be tall, make decent coin, be firm partner and all this will get you a lot in NYC, here in LA with all that, it may mean not as much especially if trying to date much younger if you are not physically attractive.

              [–]AceMav21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              It’s prob ageism

              [–]Ravenscar7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Glad I live in the north of the UK reading this. Not saying the women are all perfect up here, they're are plenty of cunts but for the most part they are down to earth.

              [–]BlueIowa 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              I've lived in LA for 6 years and pulled plenty of hot ass and I earn a lot less than you lol.

              You sound a bit stuck up. Most bitches on dating sites are ugly. Thats a fact.

              LA is one of the best cities in the world for day gaming. There is so much hot ass EVERYWHERE. On the westside it is literally walking on every street.

              Ethnically, LA is extremely diverse. White people are a minority. There are significant hispanic and asian populations here with very attractive women if thats what youre into. Most attractive white women are here to work the entertainment industry.

              I recommend hitting up girls at coffee shops, grocery stores, city centers, shopping malls, and other public areas during the day. This county has more people than most states. You know what they say: women weed and weather.

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              [–]PostglacialDial[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              I run a creative communications/ad agency. We're the top in NYC, London, and Miami. Just starting to gain some roots in Los Angeles. It's competitive here but with our background not an issue. What sort of consulting are you looking to get into?

              [–]Random_throwaway_000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

              Apparently because the male to female ratio is thrown off here

              I don't see the issue. Women are being picky because they can afford to be picky. Don't like it? Move elsewhere or start improving your social status. Imagine being a normal Chinese dude after decades of one child policy, it's like 120 men to 100 women.