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What Is Your Most Harsh Example Of Female Nature? (self.asktrp)

submitted by Caper67

A female friend of mine has recently ended a 6 month LTR with her boyfriend.

We were at a group get together this past weekend at a mutual friends place. I arrived late, said my hellos to everyone. I then said to Lara, "Where's Robert at?." To which the group starts to laugh and says " Yeah Lara, tell him where Robert is!"

I looked confused at Lara as she puts her face in her hands half laughing half giving the - I'm a terrible person face.

Then my buddy says. "Lara is going to hell basically." Tell him why Robert isn't here Lara!"

Lara continues to half laugh half cry feeling incredibly guilty at the same time letting out periodic laughs.

"I dumped him...." Lara said.I said " Ohh what happened?"The group laughs again.Lara says "I'm basically going to hell, like Mike just said"

To make a long a story short. Lara and her boyfriend Robert have been in an LTR for 6 months and they never really talked about Robert's diseased mother who passed away when he was 12. Robert is now 28.

As they were driving the other day, she was brought up in conversation. As Robert started talking about his mother, he became emotional and eventually started to cry as he talked to Lara about how much he still misses her every single day.

In Lara's words as shes laughing and crying at the same time : "I know I'm a terrible person, I know I'm probably going to hell, but I just cant get past how unattractive and cringe worthy it was and I just can't look at him the same now."

There will never be an excuse to show your weakness to a woman. Even if it's your deceased mother.

What are some of your examples of the harsh but amoral nature of women?


[–]1byronshadow 210 points211 points  (10 children)

  • A friend had a deal with his wife. He'd work overtime to pick up the slack while she went to grad school, then she'd do the same when he went back. She graduated, got a massive promotion, told everyone he was a mooch, and had divorce papers served.
  • Another friend had an "open relationship". It started with them doing swaps with vetted couples once in awhile and the wife pushed and pushed until her life resembled a Roman orgy. She eventually had a baby with a 20 year old criminal. She started going out to bars again two weeks after giving birth.
  • My uncle's friend was a junior exec at some fast food chain and he'd tell women at parties that he worked at McDonald's and they'd suddenly get cold and make shitty comments. Then someone would clarify things and they'd shamelessly run back over to apologize and try to flirt.
  • A married high school classmate got pregnant by her boss who got a shark lawyer for her. Her husband killed himself after being court-raped and not seeing his daughter for months. My classmate likes to go on Facebook and post about how selfish it was to take his own life, how the daughter will be traumatized, etc. The guy is dead and it's still all about her.

[–]ScumbagPotato 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Just fucking horrific.

[–]AdviceMaster1412 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Thanks man, needed that

[–]dulkemaru51 3 points4 points  (0 children)

LOL

[–]Xoramung 16 points17 points  (1 child)

A married high school classmate got pregnant by her boss who got a shark lawyer for her. Her husband killed himself after being court-raped and not seeing his daughter for months. My classmate likes to go on Facebook and post about how selfish it was to take his own life, how the daughter will be traumatized, etc. The guy is dead and it's still all about her.

you can't make this one up. too late now.

[–]1DonaldBaelish 12 points13 points  (0 children)

To be honest, English also committed suicide after reading this.

[–]cojohnso 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Had to give a report on my chosen parent’s career in 6th grade @ my exorbitantly expensive private school.

Told the kids my Dad owned a couple McD’s & all everyone heard was McDonald’s. In Silicon Valley in the mid to late 90’s, most everyone’s parents were in tech.

Immediately the whole classroom bust up laughing & making fun of me.

The teacher quieted them down, saying “now let Cojohnso explain. (which, btw, ‘Bitch, please, I shouldn’t have to explain anything!’) *Is your Dad a manager?”

I was all hot & flushed, “nooo... he owns them.”

Everyone shut up & then immediately asked for free fries.

Little entitled dipshits. People (kids!) suck.

[–]MYMOUTHISNUMmn -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Get over it

[–]cojohnso 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Was just relating to the McD’s comment above. Theres nothing to “get over.”

[–]ReasonablyGoodMexica 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jesus fucking Christ that last one...

[–]Designof 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Absolutely sad!

[–]verily_rp 83 points84 points  (7 children)

I had a fiancee. We were starting to get engaged. The ONE time I let my guard down in front of my dying grandmother, she started losing attraction. My grandmother, who was afflicted with pancreatic cancer, died a week later. Now in all this time, I never looked for emotional support to my girlfriend. And my emotions weren't even directed at her when I was on the phone with my dying grandmother - she was only in the room when spilled my guts to my grandmother telling her how much I loved her and how much she meant to me. My girlfriend must have seen me as weak or something, because less than a day after she die, she broke up with me. She gave me a halfassed excuse about me being "too cold" and being "too scared" for a long term relationship, but I know it's just some bullshit hamstring. Women are cruel like this. She waited until I was emotionally most vulnerable and hurt to break up with me to get maximum hurting over it. But I'm not hurt by her - in fact I feel great. I dodged a bullet. God, imagine being married to someone so heartless. She did me a favour.

[–]Random_throwaway_000 37 points38 points  (4 children)

Consider yourself lucky you were only engaged. I can see this as a possibly good relationship test. Show yourself being sad over a legitimate issue, and see how she reacts.

[–]c4toyourdoornobeef 28 points29 points  (3 children)

that actually might be a good vetting method

[–]ridethebeat 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is there ever a positive response though?

[–]c4toyourdoornobeef 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Possibly. Possibly not.

While I think the mindset of AWALT is a good one to have, it doesn’t truly mean that all women are like that, it just means that the large majority of women are like that.

Anyone who actually respects empathy and understands the situation is worth LTR’ing

[–]dulkemaru51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I think the mindset of AWALT is a good one to have, it doesn’t truly mean that all women are like that, it just means that the large majority of women are like that.

It depends on what constitutes the term. All women are hypergamous, for example, every single one of them. Since TRP isn't a hard science (yet), it's impossible to pin point everything that is common to every woman. IMO, AWALT should be strictly used to refer to what we know for certain is inherent to all female humans. Weakness in men is a tingle killer -- AWALT. While a woman inevitably breaking up with her man when he shows weakness, is obviously not the case.

Anyone who actually respects empathy and understands the situation is worth LTR’ing

I don't think anyone, but it's a trait that is very high up, if not the highest.

[–]JerryLawlerPigFace 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Fuck. That. Bitch.

[–]TopOccasion29 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Damn that's sad.

[–]juggernaut8 192 points193 points  (12 children)

The conclusion that you arrived at from this story is just straight up wrong. That guy crying over his mom dying isn't 'showing weakness', he's just being a son that loves his mom.

A woman that leaves a man over something like that has no value no matter how good she looks. Who cares if someone like that leaves? In fact Robert should thank his lucky stars she left, he escaped being tied down to that bitch.

[–]NeedingAdvice86 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This........

Well all that most of TRP sees is the pussy.......everything else is secondary to access that pussy.....mingled that with the absolute abject debilitating fear that the girl is going to find a better dick to fill that pussy and you get stories like this.

Your comment just reminds me of a post a while ago where some dude was lamenting his LTR who left and he couldn't believe it because she gave such great BJs, anal and was porn star good in bed......then got triggered when I said that those were red flags for a LTR not green lights because of the number of dicks she had to have had in her mouth and puss to acquire those "skills".

I mean really who would want a shit such as this woman in Op's story as your wife with access to your wealth or raising your children.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 35 points36 points  (7 children)

Sure but that might not of even been why. Don’t listen to her words, watch her actions. If I had to guess Robert is a little bitch in other things besides breaking down about his Mom. Don’t show weakness, she is not on your side.

[–]juggernaut8 37 points38 points  (5 children)

I'm aware of the concept of not showing weakness but the example that OP chose does not demonstrate someone showing weakness, it demonstrates what a low value woman looks like.

Also the framing is all wrong. You don't hide your weakness so some chick will let you fuck her. To truly became a valuable man you work on overcoming your weaknesses. That should be the aim. Hiding weaknesses to get some bitch to stick around is women pedestaling, beta behaviour.

[–]Caper67[S] 17 points18 points  (4 children)

He didn't break down in front of his girlfriend the moment he found out his mother died. He broke down in front of his girlfriend 16 years after the fact.

It's not about NOT crying over a deceased loved one. Of course you're going to cry and of course you're going to have emotional reactions about that and a long list of other things through out your life. It's about WHO you show those reactions to. Break down when you're alone, break down with a close male friend, break down with your father, break down with your therapist, go to the woods and don't come out until you've primal cried everything out and then some.

The same reason adults stay strong in front of their children and then break down once they close the bed room door at night. It's never been about NOT having reactions it's about WHO we show them to.

Again, crying in the car 16 years later is not comparable to breaking down the second after you get the phone call.

But like Kenny_Twenty said. Most likely the straw that broke the camels back.

[–]juggernaut8 13 points14 points  (3 children)

He didn't break down in front of his girlfriend the moment he found out his mother died. He broke down in front of his girlfriend 16 years after the fact.

I read it but somehow it didn't register, my bad.

Still, with the disease and all it's very likely his most traumatic experience. I don't care that she lost her gina tingles, I think a girl who would break up over something like that is not worth an ltr.

[–]Caper67[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I just realized I wrote "diseased" mother. Typo, I meant "deceased". My bad also.

[–]juggernaut8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, makes more sense now.

[–]icarebot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I care

[–]Ricklogical 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sounds like this guy needed a therapist to talk to this about long before this moment.

[–]dulkemaru51 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A woman that leaves a man over something like that has no value no matter how good she looks. Who cares if someone like that leaves? In fact Robert should thank his lucky stars she left, he escaped being tied down to that bitch.

This is the ultimate hack, the most important framing one can have. If she does something unacceptable, she's not the unicorn that your oneitis tricked you into believing that she was, but a whore, so you didn't lose anything valuable, you simply found out that you never had it to begin with.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think the issue wouldn't have been that he misses his late mother or even shed a few tears. The issue would be that his frame shattered and he acted like a wounded, needy, dependent little boy."Where did you go, mommieeee?"

Women despise neediness and dependency.

It's not what you say, but how you say it.

[–]bbcbarbarossa 127 points128 points  (32 children)

What an A grade bitch.

People with self respect and LTRs, how do you manage to be in an LTR knowing that you're dating such a crooked being?

[–]empatheticapathetic 88 points89 points  (26 children)

I made a comment recently on another sub about this. My sisters long term chad bf’s dad recently died. The dude never uttered a single word about it all day. Acted like it was a normal day and she tried her damndest to get him to break, so she could at some point shit on him. And he held frame 100%. This guy is literally top 5% in terms of looks, especially for his age (50), incredibly charismatic and she has absolutely no value (looks or otherwise). She is his beta bux and has little value as a woman to her. But he knew there was zero advantage to showing any of that side to her, in fact only disadvantage.

[–]slurmfactory 132 points133 points  (13 children)

When my brother died last year, I cried several times in front of my wife. It didn't change a thing. She didn't try to get me to break at all, but I basically cried for a week straight in the mornings, because my brother died. I'm still the leader and I still fuck my wife regularly. She is not a piece of shit like OP's friend tho.

[–]dani098 89 points90 points  (6 children)

Unbeknownst to TRP there are some women out there with “decent qualities”

[–]markinsinz7 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Oh TRP fully acknowledges these quality women - in fact they talk about this shit over at redpillwomen. They advise that most women though are not like that and will leave asap when weakness is shown. Just women nature. But some women are nurtured to be better.

[–]Velebit 3 points4 points  (2 children)

There is litetally no nurture involved in that. Things involved are a product not of rationality or common sense but rather of neural functions controles by genes.

Traits and abilities as empathy, sympathy, agreeableness, conscienceousnes are not something you can point a finger, explain away or leave an impression of. You are either born with it or not.

The biggest thing in combating what you might call raw nature is actually IQ and it's even higher in heritability than mentioned traits.

[–]markinsinz7 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wrong , empathy agreeableness can be nurtured. Google it. Mdma is one such drug that enables this. If you regularly practice the activity of thinking for others your brain will become that way.

How do you think we change our behaviour traits from beta to alpha and vice versa.

[–]Velebit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Behavior is one thing and sexual attraction is another. You can train a lion to do tricks and roll like a kitty. However that lion is stripped of any rights and has no ability to choose. What you want want or seem to suggest as a solution is disturbing and silly even if it might be correct which I am not (yet) accepting. For the sake of argument gene therapy or gene editing would work so one therapy or another, makes no big difference.

The point of sex is breeding, the point of breeding is gene selection. I don't want to make babies with someone who has to be drugged and trained to care about me (or anyone else) and have kids that have to be drugged and trained to be halway human. Fuck that.

https://youtu.be/NRmdz1Op7wo

But I would also bet that even what you suggest is based of activist 'science' by leftist professors with an agenda. Ironically I bet those same people would dispute that antigay therapy works regardless of science based on their personal leanings. More then half of scientific research cannot be replicated and that is actually a massive problem.

However compensatory education has completely and utterly failed and has literally no influence on long term performance. All leftist professors and psychologists have done is proven that science and narrative behind eugenic era was correct all along despite being somehow 'proven wrong' by nurenberg trials and un declaration on equality of all humans roflito.

For more on this watch various videos by Jordan Peterson on IQ and agreeableness and conscienceousness and podcast of Sam Harris and Charles Murray, also watch mr Flynn talk to Stefan Molyneux about how leftist misuse and misinterpret something he noticed about IQ for their egaliterian propaganda. Stefan also has like a dozen or so scientists who work on psychology and related fields talk about unchangable nature of most traits and how they SEEM to be changable during adolescence but when people are tested at age 30 40 50 etc the more the difference between them and genetic parents closes.

All in all, these cruel party whores take plenty of mdma and are still garbage human beings and I dont want them retrained or reeducated in a Gulag comerade but I want them ostracised and sterilized for the hoes they are. And even if you could train them, who even the fuck says they will get horny for a crying man. Cope.

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They are far less in # then women with shitty qualities.

[–]dani098 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everybody’s got a shitty quality of some kind, but I know what you’re saying, shitty women in general. Maybe we just hear more about the shitty women. Hell I don’t know

[–]donkeydodo 35 points36 points  (3 children)

To be fair, even though awalt stays true in every woman, they are people too; not all women are going to be like shit, it’s a grayscale. Some women have more sympathy and empathy than others, your wife is probably a very understanding and kind person, plus you’ve probably established the core in your relationship which OP’s friend’s ex hadn’t.

[–]pfffft_comeon 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Hmm this is making me consider crying in front of my girl as a shit test.

[–]Turkerthelurker 7 points8 points  (0 children)

To be fair, even though awalt stays true in every woman, they are people too; not all women are going to be like shit, it’s

Guys around here often joke that the way to break up with a bipolar chick is to do that: be attentive, vulnerable, talk about your fears, and she'll do the breaking up for you.

One of those funny cuz it's true things.

[–]donkeydodo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do it! If you’ve read the side bar you know how to win her respect back anyhow!

[–]plenty_of_eesh 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you had that experience and have that wife.

Sometimes people in this sub forget that if your build your attractiveness/worth solely around being the alpha, it attracts certain types of women or women looking for certain things, with some particular downsides and disadvantages (see OP).

If you show some damn consideration and sensitivity, you are more likely to open yourself to being attractive to some less Machiavellian women. Not saying you'll never experience AWALT that way, but you might avoid some of the worst like "Lara" above.

[–]recursoinominado 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well, i think it depends on a lot of circumstances, especially HOW was your crying episode: did you drop a few tears and kept your frame or you broke out in desperate crying, sobbing, moaning, looking for mommy's lap and shit?Showing emotions is attractive, a true alpha isn't someone who is afraid of his feminine side, as long as your frame is strong enough. Just don't cry like a bitch looking for comfort and you will be fine.

[–]bbcbarbarossa 6 points7 points  (8 children)

For social status and social validation, I get it. People who care more about power and status, tolerating a woman stoically is understandable. It brings you acceptance in the social realm. No single man has ever been elected president. All single men have lost any presidential battle.

But many people don't care about any of that. They just want meaningful, grounded relationships. They know they aren't going to get it from most of the friends and family, but that was okay because they thought their girl would have fill that void of meaninglessness. Now that they realise that an LTR is nothing but exactly the same as any other superfluous relationship, what's the purpose of it?

[–]empatheticapathetic 9 points10 points  (7 children)

He’s used her for whatever he’s needed from her. He’s ruthlessly redpill because that’s how you win.

[–]whatdidshewrite 11 points12 points  (6 children)

You're taking TRP to the extreme. What's the use of a gf if you can't get something as heavy as your dad's death off your chest with them

[–]empatheticapathetic -4 points-3 points  (5 children)

Sounds like you’re not taking it extremely enough. And this isn’t even my relationship, it’s an observation of someone else who doesn’t even read TRP and is top 5% in looks dealing with my sister a woman. Go figure...

Keep reading and keep learning, apparently you haven’t understood what TRP is all about.

[–]whatdidshewrite 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Why does it sound like that to you?

[–]reallyeesah 2 points3 points  (3 children)

whatdidshewrite has a point. A GF is meant to love you for who you are. If you can't talk about your fathers death to someone you trust, is there any point in even being in a LTR?

[–]empatheticapathetic 3 points4 points  (1 child)

What forum do you think you’re on?

Every few months there is an invasion of newbie bluepillers who say things like “a girlfriend is meant to love you for you who you are”. We’re not on askreddit here (which would still not give such a naive definition as you just gave) but on the Fucking red pill. Please go do your research before posting.

[–]Flintblood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. You have a point. That’s why many of us are nihilist when it comes to believing in the long term viability of LTRs. Some men are going their own way.

[–]cafeitalia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you are 50, accepting death is a lot easier than when you are 20 or 30. Age changes a man.

[–]Stilllearnin2 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

If he was in the top 5% in looks, and she had no value, looks or otherwise, what does that tell you? Is it possible that even with his Chadness, his stoic, unwavering frame, he actually turned women of high value off?

This lack of emotion is disturbing. It may not be that he is so fantastic at holding frame but he is actually devoid of emotion

I was married to a man like this for years. If he’d actually opened up to me and showed a shred of vulnerability and empathy for people he claimed to love, we may have had a better relationship. But what comes with the people who are devoid of emotion is a lack of conscience, both men and women.

And it has been my observation that folks that lack emotion as a result of lack of empathy, tend to attract the deeply empathetic.

IMO, this absolutely should be a deal breaker, if a woman shuns you for appropriate emotion that demonstrates you are not a cold uncaring asshole. If I were a man, I’d possibly go so far as fabricating a situation as a test.

Wish all of you the best.

[–]empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah as soon as I realised you were a woman I stopped reading. Your agenda and lack of self awareness is not what I’m interested in. Thx

[–]slurmfactory 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I'm married, and my wife is not a "crooked being" lol. Nor are most people, male or female. She's just a woman. I'm just a man. We have our natures and knowing and understanding what people are all about helps us succeed. Most of the guys at /mrp are not dating evil crooked beings, and I don't think that type of attitude will help you at all honestly.

That being said, one true shitty AWALT/ hamstering example was when I met a girl who was visiting my city from Amsterdam, and her boyfriend of like 7 years was in South Africa for some reason. Long story short she cheated on him with me numerous times, (theyre married now and he has no idea as I kept my vow of secrecy even when we had a shitty "breakup") and told me "he shouldnt have left me alone for 2 months" as justification lol.

[–]bbcbarbarossa 10 points11 points  (3 children)

You're clearly much more experienced than I am. Please tell me how to know if a woman is really that sociopathic as fast as possible?

In OPs story, Lara wasted 6 months of Robert to present her true colours. Could he have foreseen this?

[–]slurmfactory 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Heading out for errands, will follow up with a more thorough comment but I would say more just look for red flags that tell you she's a bad person.

[–]reallyeesah 2 points3 points  (1 child)

7 years of missing red flags, must've been blind.

[–]c4toyourdoornobeef 2 points3 points  (0 children)

or blinded by onenitis

[–]TopOccasion29 25 points26 points  (1 child)

My first LTR lost her dad and broke down crying in my dorm when she heard the news. I was there for her. I cared for her. She fell sick a few days after and took care of her and everything.

A few months after my great uncle passed, he was like a father to me. I did the same and broke down crying in her presence. She gave me a half-assed hug and left after a while. She ghosted me and broke up with me 2 weeks later. Her breakup excuse was "we have different life goals"...fucking bullshit

[–]jackandjill22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not even men & women are different.

[–]WakeUpAlreadyDude 23 points24 points  (1 child)

After reading the responses to not believing this story or that this guy was showing weakness all along, it’s important to consider some additional thoughts.

First, losing a mother at that age is traumatic. You’re still transitioning from a boy and it was probably shocking. Eventually when you lose someone close to you, it’s not about grieving over them as much as what you have lost.

All that said, if he’s crying over his mothers death and thinking about it every day 16 years on, I think this is indicative of a more significant problem. He may be depressed or having some other issues. She probably knows this and it’s not likely the real reason they broke up, but bigger issues this guy has.

As far as her behavior, it’s possible that she’s a class a bitch, but I don’t think it’s the only explanation. I think it’s likely she broke up with him for many reasons or that he’s got depression or some other issues.

To me this sounds like a trite cover story because she doesn’t want to tell the real truth. The real truth may be more embarrassing for him or her (maybe she cheated and she feels guilty) and this is just a cover story.

[–]NeedingAdvice86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I suspect that also the reaction of the group that is was a joke might indicate that as well...they likely have been hearing for a while about his behavior and this was the final straw which pushed her over the edge in exasperation but they made a joke that she broke up with him over the crying....when it was the latest in a long string of his betabilly bitch actions.

Nobody likes being around a complaining bitch all the time.

[–]horologist2018 50 points51 points  (4 children)

Disgusting story.

I'm curious though, What was your reaction in the social group? What did you say/do?

[–]Caper67[S] 61 points62 points  (3 children)

I didn't want to get into it at all. I just nodded and said "Well you were already going to hell long before this."

[–]horologist2018 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Fair enough.

[–]Radioactivebuny 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I imagine the utter lack of sarcasm or humor as you said it was noticed. Good.

[–]Kenny_Twenty 47 points48 points  (1 child)

There's more to the story. Robert had to have been demonstrating himself to be weak for some duration. The car thing was likely the straw that broke the camels back.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 20 points21 points  (0 children)

My thoughts exactly.

[–]ProFriendZoner 20 points21 points  (2 children)

It shows the chickenshit nature of men. Not a man in that group called her out because he wants to get laid. Pretty damn pathetic. As another respondent said "She has no value ..."

[–]HurricaneHugues 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I would ditch that whole group of "friends"

[–]Chadster113 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They didn't say anything because she's a bitch with tits and and a vagina. Guys think because women have these things they should treat them with respect and kindness. It's not even something women ask for. But knowing women they will gladly accept it. And when some guy comes along and realizes they're all the same and treats them like that, they get real bitchy. Stop giving women that kind of respect

[–]whatdidshewrite 76 points77 points  (16 children)

I don’t think that’s female nature, she’s just sociopathic. A normal person (man or woman) would have felt some sort of empathy.

At the very least, there’s a friendship aspect to LTRs. Ya you’re fucking, but you’re also friends. Clearly this LTR lacked friendship

[–]juggernaut8 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yup. My dad broke down when his mom died, my mom understood what he was going through and they're still together 35 years later. It's normal to empathize with a loved one in such situations. A woman that can't even do that is not worth a ltr.

[–]bbcbarbarossa 11 points12 points  (11 children)

It's still the same. Just a matter of how the girl presents herself.

A "nice" girl would still experience vaginal dehumidification when seeing an attractive man in a weak vulnerable state, but she would make sure to make the dumping process smoother and slower.

Or if she's a "nice" friend who's attracted to you, she would still be friends but not attracted anymore.

[–]whatdidshewrite 5 points6 points  (10 children)

I'm not saying she wouldn't be less attracted to him, but women have a natural propensity to want to take care of men. Think about the typical relationship archetype where a woman gets involved with a bad-but-broken guy to try and fix him.

Something like this, if done correctly, can trigger the woman's natural instincts to care. In this case, though she wouldn't get wet for him in this instance, if she empathised with him she would feel invested in him to a certain extent, which builds value into the relationship from her POV.

You also have to do it right. This is probably insensitive, but the guy's mom died when we has 12 and he's 28 now. He's had 16 years to learn to deal with it and I'm sure he can deal with it. Now I wasn't there so idk exactly how it went down, but if he broke down into a sobbing fit while talking about it, that doesn't look well on him. 16 years later he should be able to talk about his mom dying without crying his heart out.

[–]bbcbarbarossa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. A lot of it depends on how you express your vulnerability.

I reckon if you do it in a angry/affirmative way, it might trigger the "fixing" instincts in women. And I've had a first hand experience of switching to this method and seeing it work.

Don't try to garner sympathy, it's just useless.

[–]empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Take care of =/= tame a bad boy for the challenge. There’s a critical clash of ideas here.

[–]whatdidshewrite 0 points1 point  (6 children)

You're right they're not the same, but taking care of a bad boy is a means to taming him

[–]empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Irrelevant to the point you were making.

[–]whatdidshewrite 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yeah it is. So is the false equivalency you pointed out

[–]empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I wouldn’t agree with that. But you sound too stubborn to accept a point of view without endless conflict.

[–]whatdidshewrite 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I decide on accepting points of view after vetting them. What does your point of that caring and taming not being the same thing have to do with my point that caring can lead to investment in a relationship?

[–]empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You said women have a natural propensity to take care of men and equate that to when women try to tame a bad boy and misuse the term “take care of men”.

Tell me an example where women has a natural desire to take care of a man. For her beta bux or her man child? No. For her bad boy? She isn’t ‘taking care’ of him. She is naturally doing anything and everything to and for him to try and satiate him so he loses his edge and turns into a beta provider for her.

The concept “a woman has a natural propensity to take care of a man” is short sighted and false. It’s part of a wider picture and only applies with an alpha. A wife cooking for her beta bux is only doing so because she is keeping stability so she can get resources from him. There is no genuine desire to care for him. She doesn’t care about him.

[–]dudeman19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine not feeling like you can talk about something personal with anyone for 16 years and then when you're finally ready to open up, the person cuts you out of their life.

[–]empatheticapathetic 13 points14 points  (0 children)

AWALT

[–]SmartAdhesiveness 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah, she seems like a sociopath to me, too.

I’d like to see OP “break up” with her over it. Shame her for it — which she deserves — and throw her out of the social circle.

She has somehow learned that it is OK to be entirely self-centered and narcissistic, to the point of lacking any empathy for the suffering of a fellow human being. She is, literally, anti-social.

[–]NeedingAdvice86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I think you can see that in the reaction from the social group that she and the Op are tightly grouped into....they all thought it was big joke......

You are correct....they are all likely somewhere on the dickwad spectrum and have gravitated to each other...notice that the guys were all too pussy pedestalized to slam the girl for being a shit.

Been part of those type of groups, you can't depend on any of them...they are all shits but have also been in other groups where this girl would have gotten a pretty cold response and likely been slowly or quickly pushed away because those people didn't want shits in their life.

[–]InformalCriticism 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Not sure it's the worst, just the worst that happened to me. Lying about birth control.

[–]The_Belony 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Your fault on this one, should have worn a condom

[–]InformalCriticism 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Easy to say, though she told the truth for 2 years prior.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That you know of....

[–]InformalCriticism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So true.

[–]FvckYourSafeSpace 13 points14 points  (1 child)

LOL that’s your example???? Family court breaks men on the regs. This ain’t shit. This is like something Elaine bennes would say.

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol

[–]enterim 13 points14 points  (1 child)

LTR of 1,5 years, was planning my future with here. Bluepill as fuck. Having a family with her was literally the biggest source of my motivation for everything.

My mother got ill with depression and suicidal thoughts. I Took care of her 24/7 for 3 months. Business income went downhill because of this.

My LTR used the free time without me to cheat with one of my business clients ( Found it out myself, she kept denying it ) . Right before christmas. Kicked her out of my appartment immediately.

Blamed her cheating on me being distant ( Family First ) and stole around 8.000$ as well.

I had no one to talk about it, my family was already suffering because of my mother, so I just told them the relationship ended because there was no future for us.

She did not ask once afterwards how I am doing. Or if my mother is good again. Instead went straight into the relationship with the guy she cheated with.

This fucked me up quite bad and I am still struggling to cope with this. But this is how I ended up here - so I guess I am kind of thankful. Learned my lesson.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blamed her cheating on me being distant

This is projection.

This is typical behavior of sociopaths/narcissists. They have revolving-door type relationships. They can't tolerate boredom and it causes them to break boundaries. Their negative traits and behaviors must somehow belong to other people and they don't experience any ownership over them. In other words they're social parasites and are always looking for their next fix.

You dodged a bullet.

[–]Dickwad 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Funny to imagine the reverse. Somehow I don't think it would go down so well, for a man to tell his group of women friends that he dumped another woman for crying over her dead parent.

Meanwhile in a group of thirsty guys, that one female friend could reveal she's a serial killer with all her exes in the freezer and they'd still be elbowing each other out the way to kiss her ass and beg for attention. Omg Karen you're going to hell 😂😂 I guess this means you're single now??

[–]Caper67[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It was a healthy mix of guys and girls at the outing. More than a fair share of the gals were laughing like hyenas also.

[–]NeedingAdvice86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suspect that reaction from the group just indicates that they all somewhere on the dickwad spectrum....been part of some of those groups before....you learn that they are usually all just shits and you can't trust or depend on them in the least.

But have been in other groups where this chick would have gotten a much different response and likely been ostracized out of the group in short order....

[–]omega_dawg93 7 points8 points  (0 children)

i have 3 examples... they're all the same thing.

  1. married woman cheats on her hubby.
  2. married woman gets pregnant.
  3. all 3 married women named their sons after their husbands, "hubby, jr.," and later, DNA proved that all 3 were NOT for their husbands.

so, i am kin to two of these women and know of one other woman who all did the exact same thing. they named their sons after their husbands and probably knew the kid wasn't for their husband. 2 of these situations ended in divorce... one did not.

hypergamy.

hypergamy + giving them attention + shiny stuff = women, including married women, will venture out and receive outside DNA.

some guys live by the 'bro code' expecting men to NOT fuck their wives, but they NEVER give any accountability or blame to their wives... FOR GIVING THEMSELVES to other men.

[–]TheIslander829 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I thought we were allowed cries on dead relatives... I guess I was wrong... holy fucking shit.

[–]RedHoodhandles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure you may cry. In private. Don't burden women with your tears. They don't want them. This isn't candyland.

[–]Rkingpin 13 points14 points  (3 children)

There will never be an excuse to show your weakness to a woman. Even if it's your deceased mother.

Fucking hell. When they said a man should be a rock there were no lies in that statement.

Fuck me

[–]TopOccasion29 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I agree to an extent but it seems he was weak before the incident.

[–]Rkingpin 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Thou shall not be weak.

Thou must maintain frame.

Let us now say the pimps prayer

[–]yungvibegod2 5 points6 points  (9 children)

Fucking pure evil. Sickens me to my core.

Why do people exist like this with no consequences (socially or otherwise) for their inhumane actions, even your friend group seemed to think it was some kind of hilarious joke.

[–]TopOccasion29 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It makes me sick as well. If a friend (male or female) broke down crying over the death of a loved one i would be empathetic and care for them.

[–]yungvibegod2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Especially if you were in a long term relationship and truly dedicated to that person. Something like that would never lower my respect or in the case of a relationship attraction for said person.

Why would you spend 6 months+ with a person to dump them for showing emotions like a fuckin human being?

[–]FvckYourSafeSpace -5 points-4 points  (6 children)

Lmao this is pure evil to you? Grow up

[–]yungvibegod2 6 points7 points  (5 children)

To dump a person for showing emotions over the death of a close loved one, let alone ones MOTHER, yes thats pure evil. And pretty malicious, how isnt it?

[–]FvckYourSafeSpace 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Dawg. I had my BM try to put me in jail for being out of work for a week. Not to mention the fabrications that kept me from even seeing my son at all at one point. There are lots of pieces to that story that will reveals their true nature and the corruption and incompetence of the family court and child support system, but I’m not gonna get too far down that avenue RN.

I had one broad I let shack up w me in my younger years carrying on with two other dudes, fat slobs w no redeeming qualities simply cause ? She needed more attention I guess and living rent free in a highly sought after big city didn’t mean shit. Well she wasn’t too happy when I threw her shit on the curb and had the locks changed when she was at work.

Been on the other side of the fence plenty too. Banging “taken” women is a fuckin pastime. The shit I’ve seen being the backdoor man would burn off both your ears. Even worse is being close personal friends w women and seeing how they do when they feel like they won’t be “judged.”

How’s this one for you, I reluctantly bang this broad the other day just to empty my nuts. This girl climbed in my bed in her underwear grinding her pussy on my cock then gives some silly ass LMR that I push through. She stays, initiates in the morning, I fuck her again... unbeknownst to me she was seeing this other dude I know and she is ‘in love’ w him. A mutual friend who knew I was going on a “date” w her blabs to his girl that he was kinda queasy that she was saying she was in love w other guy and definitely gonna get a dickdown from me.

Well the girlfriend takes it upon herself to give the girl I banged a moral lecture on two timing. This girl then obviously is backed into a corner cause I am not the relationship type and she wants to have that a the other dude, so what she do? She calls me up and essentially blackmails me to keep quiet about our encounter saying “it wasn’t fully consensual.”

I got a lot more fuckin tales from the dark side but the point is, this story ain’t shit.

And no I do not hate women, I just know what to expect. It’s not healthy to hate women or “GYOW” IMO.

People in general aren’t saints. Your shit certainly stinks too.

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    [–]FvckYourSafeSpace 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Looks matter to everybody. Everybody is shallow, you need to grow up. How old are you?

    [–]yungvibegod2 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    I know everyone is shallow, but i would hope most people arent shallow enough to break up with someone over their emotional response to their dead mother.

    And irrelevant but 21, now you’re going to say something condescending about how the world sucks and i should man up and get used to it.

    Save me the speech ive heard it chief.

    [–]FvckYourSafeSpace 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Yes it is relevant. I don’t have the same expectations for especially young men that I do for men who should be aged and seasoned. You are young so its more understandable, but you obviously haven’t gotten “the talk” enough or grokked it if you’re struggling with a nihilistic attitude of potentially GYOW with this “don’t wanna play” bullshit.

    People suck on a spectrum, and remember you are a person... I can imagine the guy in OP may have been kind of a bitch about a lot of things and finally the crying dried her pussy up beyond recovery, we don’t know rly.

    The point is, as a man you are expected to be a rock. Yea, it sucks sometimes when you want to let your guard down but that’s what your boys are for, your fuckin squad. Women are not your squad. They want to feel the security and comfort and tingles of “daddy” beyond all else, and daddy doesn’t cry.

    [–]TheFlyingPro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I’d like to upvote this post 3000 times

    [–]hrm0894 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    [–]Lightways434 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I was in an LTR and my father had just passed from a pretty tragic death. I opened myself up to her and got emotional. She seemed utterly repulsed by my presence and subsequently ghosted for a week. After we re-initiated contact she hit me with the “it’s not you it’s me” speech and we broke it off.

    [–]319Skew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Oh man. I think the best example that I have is with my ex wife.

    Spent 11 years with this woman. Supported her through family, career change, schooling, never cheated (lots of chances) on her, or beat her, took her to a vacation and each anniversary tried to do an amazing thing with her. Christ, I even bought her a sauna.

    Well fast forward, first time I was unemployed and didn't find work right away. First child was born. Decided that I didn't love her. No sex. No attention. I'm the bad guy for wanting affection and support. I should 'man up'. Goes on vacation with the money from savings I brought in.

    I tell her I need some time or we should go to therapy. Explodes on me. Calls me all sorts of names. Divorces me.

    So, then the fun begins:

    I go through a depression while she leaves the country with my son. (long story)

    Comes back and I want to see my son but now she claims that I can only do so under supervision

    I get a lawyer

    She claims that I hit her, want to raise him as a terrorist (I'm atheist btw), tries to go after my family and goes after my money (this is after she already got half my shit).

    We go to court. An agreement is made.

    Less than 2 weeks later states that she was coerced into the agreement and tries to challenge it.

    States that I'm planning on leaving the country with my child to kidnap him (never mind the fact that I'm now broke, don't have a passport, don't know anyone or have a place to go and grew up with a single mother)

    Reaches out to my deadbeat dad for 'evidence' of previous claims and invites him to stay with her to provoke me

    She knows that growing up I hated my father so this was a cold move on her part. It back fired when I mended fences with him and found out all the shit they've been saying about me and my character.

    Turns out that they told him how I was this lazy, drunk that didn't give her any freedom and constantly fooled around on her.

    Now, I have a kid with this woman and occasionally she tries do subtle things to get me upset always targeted towards me through my son since she knows that the only thing she's got.

    Tl;Dr: Love of my life divorced me, took half my shit, forced me to get a lawyer, broke me emotionally and mentally as well as financially until I overcame and got on my purpose. Still tries to get me through my son

    [–]addwater 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I don't care what you say.

    There's no way that's the only or even main reason she dumped him.

    It was merely the straw that broke the camel's back.

    [–]PerplexingPegasus_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Friend has oneitis for a girl. Friend is aspiring athlete and she would constantly wish him the best towards athletic career.

    To me, she would shit on his career and say how he sucks. Told me she knew he was begging for her but would still invite him over her house to keep him as a orbiter. She said he will never have a chance with her but stills supports him Incase he makes it professional.

    He knows better though after showing him what I know but he’s still blue pulled as hell.

    [–]Flintblood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    She was savage af when it came to interference with her tingles. In the end she did him a favor

    [–]fadadapple 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    When did this become an incel sub?

    [–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    oh you must be new here.

    [–]SalporinRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I was cheated on by my LTR so that's probably the worst. But in that same LTR there was another incident.

    During the relationship my grandfather had a stroke and collapsed in his kitchen and was alone on the ground for 8 hours before my aunt found him. He was 86 but he was the most self-sufficient 86 year old you'd ever met so some type of life-alert type device wasn't even thought of. He still drove and drove well, played tennis 2 times a week and golf once a week, traveled multiple times a year.

    So he was taken to the hospital and the left side of his body was basically paralyzed including his throat/vocal chords so he couldn't talk anymore. Because it took so long before he got help it basically was just a matter of time before he died. I spent the next two weeks in the hospital every day, just talking to him and watching old movies with him.

    He was very special to me because my father wasn't around much so he took on that role. He taught me how to ride a bike, swim, grill a steak, etc. I also found out after he died that he left me money in a trust that paid for all my student loans (not a crazy amount but a source of future stress for sure) and then some.

    And yet during that 2 week period I was spending with my grandpa my LTR just kept picking stupid fights over bullshit. Here I was fucking spending time with my grandpa who was in hospice care and yet my girl was sending me paragraphs about how bad of a boyfriend I was because I wasn't seeing her enough. And when we broke up I reflected on that period and just realized how much of a total cunt she was being. Selfish bitch.

    [–]RedHoodhandles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yeah makes sense. Can you imagine how she gets wet the next time he wants to fuck her and tries to manhandle her after he cried like a lil bitch and with that image ingrained in her memory? Yeah me neither.

    Cry in private or in front of people that you trust with your life.

    [–]rlee1185 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Best friend's wife got a job making as much as he did. She was previously one of those underemployed underpaid people that were worth more than they were paid. She finally got a good job and started to resent her dependence on her husband. She started fucking around at work and was going to divorce her husband.

    She tried to justify her actions with bullshit illogical arguments that made no sense. Tried to blame him when he never stopped being the same great guy she fell in love with.

    She got pregnant, wasn't his, but he decided to stick with her and work through her shit till she came to her senses.

    They're now worked through all their crap and he's raising her kid as if it were his own. He's a noble SOB if I ever saw one.

    [–]MCFiletMignon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    At least she's honest about it?

    [–]I_love_you_broskis 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Fuck her honesty in the ass

    [–]SeasonedRP 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    Fake post. Women don't talk like the language quoted. Several word choices give it away. And if a guy really cried in from of his girlfriend, and she was put off by it and broke up with him, she wouldn't publicly attribute it to him crying and definitely wouldn't use the words attributed to her. I don't believe a word of this post. If you truly understood TRP, you would know why the scenario and quoted language don't square with the nature of women.

    [–]SharpestMarbel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    maybe OP is paraphrasing it in his own words

    [–]kooreh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    she wouldn't publicly attribute it to him crying

    I am not sure if the post is real or not, but I can definitely see this part happen.

    If we assume the story is real, then she got a lot of attention for acting like that, so she probably knew what she was doing.

    [–]pnzndltn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I get what you're saying. Like she wouldn't have been so open about it at risk to her reputation.

    [–]Caper67[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    There is a reason I told Lara she was going to hell long before this. Lara is raunchy and has zero shame. Lara couldn't give two fucks about being overt.

    If you really think that there aren't any women out there that display overt behavior for attention or any other agendas then maybe you aren't as red pill " seasoned" as your name suggests.

    [–]jcrpta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm not sure I'd use the word "harsh", though perhaps "eye-opening" is the right word.

    I was - ooh, must have been about 20 years old. Every year, my old school held a reunion, and every year it attracted two main groups. Those who are still in touch (or want to be in touch) with their old schoolfriends from a couple of years ago and those who are in their 40s and older who haven't mentally moved on from the fact they left school 25+ years ago. With very little in between.

    In school, I'd been the awkward, slightly nerdy young lad who was no better or worse looking than anyone else and while there was little reason for a girl to ignore me, there was also little reason for a girl to show interest.

    There had been just one big change to my looks: when I was at school, my hair was cut fairly short but I never used any sort of wax or gel. I have very fine hair; if I don't use something like that I look downright fluffy. This wasn't something I figured out until I went to university.

    There was one other important change: That nerdy young lad was a young man at university studying a subject that had a lot of promise for a good career.

    Two small changes. Neither of which made me a different person; hell, anyone who'd bothered to get to know me just two years previously could have easily predicted at least one of them. But those same girls who would not have even acknowledged my existence a couple of years earlier all wanted to say hello and be friends.

    [–]jonadragonslay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Nothing new but friend's wife cheated on him and got pregnant while he was deployed to Iraq. They already had two children at the time.

    [–]SpecialistParticular 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That group sounds worse than she does.

    [–]thesquarerootof1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is the worst example of "women nature" I have read on here. Absolutely terrible. What a horrible bitch. I really hope not all women are like this.....

    [–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Got a good one because I literally just heard this today.

    My long time friend from college was telling me how he was hooking up with his co worker. She totally came onto him while they were on a work trip one time.

    Then months of hooking up there was one day he was banging her in his house. They left the door open by mistake.

    My friend said he almost forgot to fold the laundry for his kids (he has kids with another woman). As he left her in the middle of banging her, her boyfriend just walked right in the door.

    The boyfriend had no clue his wife was just banging her co worker. The co worker and the boyfriend got married a month later.

    There you go

    [–]ollyollyollyoioioi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    A balance between masculine and feminine energy is important and in that situation, Robert showed a lot of weakness and neediness, she lost the attraction because she had to make up for his masculine energy. It makes sense. She isn't a bad person, she's doing what her brain is telling her.

    [–]dgillz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    What are some of your examples of the harsh but amoral nature of women?

    Amoral and immoral have different meanings. I think you meant immoral, as in not moral, evil or malicious.

    [–]goathunter05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    that made me throw up

    [–]Turtle-2011 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Person dumps person for a reason. I don't see why this is that big of a deal.

    [–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That's like dumping a girl because her maiden name is Stacy.

    [–]sampson158 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    WOW! she even admits readily that what she did was a horrible thing for her to do and that she feels like she should go to hell for doing it, but she did it anyway and doesn't have the gumption to undo it. If I were him I would have been FURIOUS about it, I bet she lied to him about why too. I think someone in that group should tell him the real reason why she broke up.

    [–]wobbleelbbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    when a woman cheats on her boyfriend who is sleeping right behind a wall in a different room.

    [–]GGrub8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Reading the replies here the "girl loses attraction upon seeing her man crying over a deceased relative/friend" story seems to be very common.

    The issue here is not about being dumped by some slut, it's about a display of sociopathy that is almost as bad as animal cruelty and racism (and maybe even worse than the latter, considering how personal it is). Society shouldn't tolerate such individuals at all.

    This is seriously disturbing stuff that needs to be talked about because it's perhaps one of our very few weapons against feminism and hypergamy -- even the whitest of knights would side with us upon reading these horror stories, especially if at some point they have the misfortune of experiencing them firsthand.

    This kind of talk is what got TRP quarantined. Think about it.

    [–]malekye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    So glad I read this. Was considering telling a plate about my bullimia but nah. Fuck that shit

    [–]SeReN_pdm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    To be fair, the moment I was talking about my deceased grandma with my gf, tears rolled down my face, because we had a real deep relationship until she got dementia and died. I was really scared to show emotions. But her reaction was instantly to hold me. No questions or comments, just holding.

    I am all for AWALT, but at this exact moment I decided she was good LTR material unlike most girls I met to this point. We are together for 5 years now. No plans on marriage etc. There are up‘s and down‘s, but overall it is a very loyal and enjoyable relationship and we support each other in our careers.

    But what I learned from past realtionships and the actual one, is that a relationship which is based on loyalty, respect and support is much more functional than a realtionship just based on romance and emotions.

    I am really sorry for your friend, because such a behaviour is destructive in terms of trust into other people. He hopefully has the strength and courage to go on, not giving a fuck about this woman ever again.

    [–]lostbuthopefull 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Crying is apparently only cute if you're "alpha"?Just cry if you need to, you're human after all. Also, I doubt that's the (even if) only reason she broke up with him, just doesn't sound like a normal reason or one I've ever heard of

    [–]FvckYourSafeSpace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    And if this is harsh to you, I hope you’re a teenager. No shit crying is unattractive in men. I don’t think she’s particularly terrible at all for this. Lost his mother well yes that sucks but plenty Don’t know theirs to begin with. Toughen up or you’re in for a shitty ride.

    [–]I_love_you_broskis -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

    That’s why I’m an MGTOW

    [–]xNightly -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    Keep telling yourself that

    [–]I_love_you_broskis 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Do you even fvkin know what is MGTOW? I fuck women but I don’t keep LTRs and I don’t have HATE for them. Cause I understand they’re born like that and Biologically helpless. I am tall, I have 10-12% bodyfat and I’m good looking (girls tell me that a lot of times). If anyone needs proof I’ll dm them

    [–]xNightly -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

    Your reply screams insecurity. Yikes.

    [–]indigenoushorizons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    cope cope cope

    [–]Lostitink -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    Well this is going to sound unpopular, but I’d have dumped his ass too. There’s some deep seated emotional shit going on if the dude is “breaking down” about something that happened 16 years ago. I’m sure this wasn’t the first thing that made her want to run, but I’m sure it was the last. We’re all saying this girls evil and shit. She’s a person who has needs to and she wants someone who isn’t going to lose it about an event that happened in the very distant past. Who probably hasn’t dealt with this shit in a manner that he needs to deal with it in.