Field ReportTinder Game Field Report (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by OKJaded

I'm still new to TRP. However, I do have my occasional moments where everything seems to fall into place. What follows is my Tinder exchange with a girl over 1 day. I added my perceptions of TRP philosophy off to the side. Added arrows to help indicate where I was attempting to push/pull.

Read it. Give advice. Learn from it. It was one success. Lets see what the TRP hivemind can generate to help move the discussion forward.

Tinder Log

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[–]moho_mine 93 points94 points  (13 children)

in a what!?!? IN A WHAT?????


[–]DanReggins 24 points25 points  (0 children)

In a butt

[–]Uedukai 11 points12 points  (0 children)

In Lumbridge Castle

[–]HMNbean 6 points7 points  (0 children)

holy shit man, this is killing me too.

[–]M2izzie -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

I'm guessing a cast of some sort. Does OP have a broken arm or clavicle?

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[–]StillRedder 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Or a car?

Edit: Hammock, Jacuzzi, spacesuit... doesn't matter!

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[–]Kantyash -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In a sex dungeon?

[–][deleted] 101 points101 points

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[–]retroshark 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Right? He almost had me trying to get into bed with him. That was some silky smooth shit and I am so going to use some of these in the future. This is stuff TRP needs more of. My kind of field report.

[–]stillnoturday 28 points29 points  (0 children)

a man after my own heart, move your plans I'm better I like your style.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (21 children)

Is there some place where one can find more stuff like this?

[–]darkstout 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yes, see sidebar. These moves are classic Chateau Heartiste.


[–]ADarkerNight 7 points8 points  (19 children)

Check the bodybuilding.com forum threads. Can confirm sneak's text game is super efficient.

[–]OKJaded[S] 12 points13 points  (18 children)

This is exactly where I learned everything. There is something close to 700 pages of this guy pulling off some amazing shit.

[–]ADarkerNight 3 points4 points  (16 children)

Literally a gold mine of text game that took me from 0 to 1 message number closes in a day. Sneaks is the real deal and the thread is full of nuggets of wisdom and generally hilarious.

[–]yumyumgivemesome 2 points3 points  (15 children)

Which link on the sidebar is to Sneak's stuff?

[–]ADarkerNight 23 points24 points  (14 children)

You'll be looking for awhile if you're trying to find it on the sidebar.

Thread 1, Thread 2, Thread 3, Thread 4

The Book of Sneaks

Once you've read all 1000 thread pages, sit back and revel in your text game godhood.

[–]Bobosaurus 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I hate that I'm saving this to read.

[–]jdotg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are not alone brother.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I hate I'm commenting to save this

[–]SmokesQuantity 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]redpillg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dear god, thank you so much!

Are there any more useful threads? Particularly ones for OKC?

Thread 2 and 3 did not work due to the way you linked them, can you please edit them?

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[–]jrschmitz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

. 2.0

[–]trpfieldreport 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's comedic gold, and so well done.

[–]throwaway_0001a 43 points44 points  (21 children)

The "working up the courage" line doesn't feel like a push to me. Still, valuable example for me, thank you!

[–]RojoEscarlata 20 points21 points  (19 children)

Yeah that one line kinda irked me a little, but I have a big aversion to sound even a little supplicant or weak.

Can't argue the results tho.

[–]OKJaded[S] 66 points67 points  (5 children)

The best move I made was coming back from going too RP. The RP hurt my game because I went too far with it. A good friend gave me the 85/15 rule. Do it 85% of the time. The other 15% its ok to display other traits. When I was RP 100% of the time it just made me seem like an asshole.

[–]DeckofLuckyStrikes 92 points93 points  (2 children)

never go full retard.

[–]HMNbean 4 points5 points  (0 children)

smart move. take things in and make them YOURS.

[–]LiLBoner 26 points27 points  (4 children)

The thing with that one is. That it's tinder. You don't need courage for asking someone out on Tinder. So it is an obvious joke/lie that doesn't make you weak.

[–]OKJaded[S] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Exactly. Its a light push.

[–]kmillz09 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I took it as some light-hearted sarcasm. You can't be asking her to dinner and working up the courage to be doing so at the same time. It'll slightly confuse her, which will in turn make her find you more interesting.

[–]OKJaded[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You nailed it. I knew it worked, just never understood why... until now.

[–]JihadDerp -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Came here to say this. But I can't argue with the results!

[–]INomYou 50 points51 points  (0 children)

That is some locked-down shit. Grats. FRs like these are how we get to see what happens when theory meets the real world. Solid.

[–]DrakeSaint 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I would've made very similar moves in this chat. Still, some of your concepts were new to me. Very interesting, sir. Keep more logs coming, Tinder is one hell of a tool if you know how to use it.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"Making sure the girl knows whats up" is like 50% of online dating. The rest is how you market yourself in your profile. This really shows the first 50% excellently - the key is to make sure the girl knows which category you are in. Most guys hide their intentions because most girls will say like "not looking for hookups!" or some hamster shit.

That is completely wrong, she has to know where you are going to take it, that is what will get her to meetup for drinks and leave after 5 mins. Nice job, I was really expecting this to be some nonsense that belongs in seddit, but this is solid. Newbies take note, he's not entertaining her with stories or even trying to "attract her" with charisma or anything. That is very important, your lines need to look like you just thought of them on the fly, not sat and composed some art.

[–]ohhaio 14 points15 points  (5 children)

worthless without profile pix of you and the girl, assuming of course that this is a m/f hookup

[–]bringer_of_fight 7 points8 points  (3 children)

It was a gay hookup but the principle is the same

[–]ohhaio 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I would suggest that this is a critical bit of info that was left out of the OP.

[–]bringer_of_fight 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Lol im just fucking with you. Obv its m/f

[–]ohhaio 4 points5 points  (0 children)

no worries, my fault for skimming too fast

[–]rugbytitsandmedicine 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Goddamn son

[–]Chet_Manly0987 8 points9 points  (0 children)

does anyone else get a high from having won the duel (and the girl) of who is the superior male? I swear its better than any drug

[–]Doomsday_ 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Since you met her & got the bang, good job.

That said, it seems like some of your text game could use work. You come off as somewhat try-hard in that you are typing a lot more than she is and using a great deal of punctuation. I would suggest trying to be more breezy and laconic.

Critical commentary follows:

Just wondering how much tinder crush is up to this fine Sunday ;)

Calling her your "crush" seems too admiring. The smileyface is rapport-seeking and should be removed. "Sunday" should be "sun."

I'm a bit hungry, other than that it's pretty fantastic.

Have you eaten already?

Double text is not usually a good play. Could have done: "I'm hungry, let's get dinner." If she's already eaten she'll tell you, you don't need to ask her.

I'm working up the courage to invite you out to dinner.

Indirect and pegs you as unconfident. You should assume the sale and frame it so that she is chasing you. So, possible alternative: "so when r u gonna buy me dinner/sushi?" (feel free to omit the question mark)

Lame. I'm way more fun than 9 o'clock guy.

Once again it seems you're trying too hard to convince her. Less is more. You could simply text "gay" or ". . ." and if she's into you, she'll reply.

You know so. You seem like a smart girl. Just reschedule Mr 9pm. He will understand

Too much pleading/convincing. You're using logic when you should be setting a firm boundary or playing to her emotions. Two options here. Go direct: "Meet me at X at Y time." Or, go for the witty sexual banter, "woah, you're thinking of coming already? Let's not get ahead of ourselves"

Haha forget that. I'm not going to feed you, show you a great time, have you have the must fun you've had all month, then send you off to another guy. That's crazy

Too elaborate. Less is more. ". . ." would work here if you didn't do it earlier. Could also do something like "Nope, I'm not your warm-up date/guy." Or, more aggressively, simply assume the sale, "Not enough time to get back to my place for bedroom acrobatics."

We finally agree on something ;)

Too rapport-seeking. Lose the emoticon for sure. You could probably even skip texting her back at this point, since you've already established the fun bet frame where she's to text you back when she's board.

[–]1kingofpoplives 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In general, I agree with you comments, and the main points about his game being too wordy, but the fact is that it is impossible to judge his game without knowing what he looks like, and what this girl looks like.

In many scenarios it is advisable to beta up your game a bit if you are significantly hotter than the woman you are talking to.

[–]Occultist -1 points0 points  (7 children)

Honestly, he made several mistakes and came off as too beta. My verdict is the girl was probably not very high SMV (and/or he was way higher than her - it's obvious she was very into him from before).

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Can you quote the parts where he came off as too beta? I agree with /u/Doomsday_ on him using too much punctuation and not being laconic, but other than that I thought his game was good.

[–]Occultist 4 points5 points  (3 children)

  • Too many smileys (not very dark triad - then again, that's may be a bit too 'next level' and not what he's going for)

  • "Haha" (sort of the same as above - is this some jolly joker or Sawyer from LOST? Again, maybe he's not at the point yet where he would try to go all dark triad)

  • His messages were too long, even compared to hers (should have been shorter, not longer)

  • "Trying to work up the courage to ask you out for dinner?" That's just not how it's done. First of all you don't ask a girl out for dinner. Ever. You tell her you're going to get dinner and that she should come along. It's strange because later in the convo he says he's with friends (which seems to be a lie), so he obviously knows this is how it works.

Here's the thing: she is insignificant to you. You don't ask her to come anywhere, you tell her where you're going and - preferably - tell her she will come along (try to make it seem as little as a request as possible - "should", which I used earlier, is not really the optimal word. At least not if you're going dark triad).

And then he kept pushing. If he had used the method outlined above he would never have put himself in a position where he would accept her rejection like a beta weakling. But now he did. And after he was rejected? He continued to push, ask her several more times. While using smileys. And laughing. Seriously, this whole thing is quite cringe-worthy in my book.

I honestly could have replaced his notes with notes of my own, explaining how a lot of what he does is wrong. "Have you eaten already?" "Do you like sushi?" Who cares what she has done or what she likes? Is he her servant of some sort? Out to please her? This should not be about pleasing her. It's about pleasing yourself. You should make you feel good. You care about you and you like you. She is just lucky you may choose to give her the possibillity to come along for the ride, even if just for some sushi.

Again, very dark triad and not close to anyone could pull this off at all. I'm honestly not impressed by his approach at all and I very strongly suspect that this girl is low SMV.

[–]OKJaded[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Different girls require different game. I went full RP, full dark triad and it didnt work as well for me for the girls I was gaming.

"Trying to work up the courage to ask you out for dinner?" Girls love plausible deniability and this has plausible deniability all over it.

Also Have you eaten? Do you like Sushi? If she says no to either of these I just say "That's what I'm doing. Talk to you later". Going to Dark Triad left me with too many cold leads.

[–]Occultist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dark triad is a difficult skill to master and I think it will be the most effective with high SMV girls as it may intimidate others.

Not sure what you mean by plausible deniability.

And yeah, that's a nice save. But only if you made the mistake of asking her in this way in the first place, imo. Asking her if she likes sushi could work IRL, but over text it will seem too weak imo.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

so just imagine you're king geoffrey. the king wouldnt give a fuck.

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[–]OKJaded[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the critique. Where I fail is when I use this approach I fall flat. Modify my approaches each time and try to figure out what has the highest success rates. Maybe you could post some successful logs?

[–]1kingofpoplives 15 points16 points  (27 children)

This girl was DTF the first decent guy she could find, and your SMV came in a couple notches higher than Mr. 9:00.

You just got used for sex.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Getting used for sex sounds terrible.

[–]chakravanti93 73 points74 points  (6 children)

You just got used for sex.

No he didn't. She bought him drinks. It was a fair exchange.

[–]theozoph 31 points32 points  (12 children)

You remind me of a beta friend of mine : incel for the last 2 years, still thinks I "get lucky" on a weekly basis.

[–]RojoEscarlata 8 points9 points  (7 children)

This reminds me of a phrase I use a lot (in Spanish)

"If I get a little drunk, you may get very lucky tonight"

I don't even drink that much. Lol.

[–]theozoph 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good neg, I'm stealing it!

[–]1kingofpoplives -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

You are missing the point of my comment entirely. Correlation is not causation. I posit that OP got laid because he is good looking dude who met girl who was DTF. He succeed in spite of his mediocre try hard text game, not because of it.

[–]theozoph 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Correlation is not causation.

Yeah, I don't think I missed anything. That line is the biggest flag ever for BP rationalizations.

[–]niceguy_gone_cad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His text game wasn't that bad. He showed great confidence asking her to re-schedule the other dude, and kept a playful cocky & funny vibe. Worse thing was that he always used more words than her, and yes, he was a bit too try hard sometimes. But he got the bang...unless he's a male model, no doubt his text game was the key factor.

[–]JohnNashoba -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

^ this

[–]OKJaded[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

It was mainly about beating Mr 9:00 when he was right in front of her and I was sight unseen (The mystery box). She left their date after he bought her dinner to come buy me a drink.

I flipped the script. I could have taken the drink and never talked to her again. I took the drink and boned her. It was the reversal of every nightclub in the world.

[–]1kingofpoplives 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Respect and mad props for the pull.

[–]InformationFetus 0 points1 point  (3 children)

That's a bad thing... How? Haha.

[–]1kingofpoplives 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Never said it was a bad thing. I just think it's a mistake to believe that his "tight text game" is what got him laid.

Many girls will decide at a certain point that they want to have sex. They then jump on Tinder and proceed to have sex with hottest guy who offers them the D and passes the most basic level shit tests.

Looking good + the lack of availability and outcome independence that comes from having sexual options is what gets guys laid, more so than the type of game illustrated here.

[–]OKJaded[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Looking good -> You're Goddamn right

the lack of availability -> "Monday?" Nope, Im busy. I'm about to leave where Im at

outcome independence -> Oh, thanks for the free drink, I can now do whatever I want.

[–]1kingofpoplives 1 point2 points  (0 children)


Now express those same qualities in 1/3 of the verbiage and we are getting somewhere.

How would you text if you were literally tired and bored of chatting to all various birds that are blowing you up all the time?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I've heard about emoticons before, not to use them. These seem fine, and to actually help. What do others think?

[–]OKJaded[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was anti emoticon until this last month. In my experience it has helped. Your milage may vary but it seems bitches love the emoticons.

[–]retroshark 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I stay away unless she has already sent one at least, if not a couple. Any more than that and you probably want to avoid a girl who needs to let you know her every emotion even if it's just text. Otherwise use once in a response and never again. Gotta be strategic.

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[–]PlantNutrient -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Never use a capital P though

[–]Vanleon1s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

then what's the difference between :P and :p?

Can't really find any for me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they are case by case. Really depends on the chick

[–]rpdoom 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's refreshing to see actual photo evidence on this sub. Sometimes it's hard to tell if people are telling the truth or embellishing. Kudos to you man, good to see it's working. I like the quick and to the point philosophy. I'll have to try that out sometime soon.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Wow you fucked an ugly girl from tinder? TRP really is magic

[–]Uedukai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol that's the problem with TRP. You can never really tell if people are bullshitting you. Regardless, even if she's a 5, progress is progress for OP.

[–]averagecycle 3 points4 points  (6 children)

any reason why you didn't get her number and move over to text?

[–]OKJaded[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

No real reason to get her number. Tinder goes right to her phone.

[–]chakravanti93 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Which is genius because it makes the act of not getting her number functionally irrelevant but emotionally effective because it's dissmisive and indifferent.

[–]averagecycle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's a couple good reasons but I was just curious.

[–]Haptic_Affinity 9 points10 points  (2 children)

switching platform makes you lose momentum

[–]SuttoSnax 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i find most of the quality girls send me their number. only rarely do i ask, usually after have already made plans to meet up. ive found it takes it up a notch - they have just signalled full intent to meet. i should note im a bit older than the average man on RP. im 42 and gaming girls up to 11 yrs younger. also very busy so usually only meet one or two tinder girls a week. then a couple weeks off line doing my own shit, have a couple of girls lined up for the next time im ready.

[–]Haptic_Affinity -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hmm, this tidbit might actually be pretty relevant to other trp users since on Tinder this type of game might need to be slightly modified for the 20s girls since they get significantly more matches than the demographic you're messaging

[–]Boom5hot 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I had to look up some (all) of those words you used to describe what you were doing.

Thank you urban dictionary but what is an "AFBB" ?

I'm still not sure I understand what the red pill employs. Can you link a resource or specific story that explains these tools.

I don't really want a why explanation but a what & how.

[–]OKJaded[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks. She was suggesting meeting me for sushi then going off to meet him at 10. It was a shit test to see if I would be Beta Bucks and feed her, knowing she was going to ditch me at 10.

[–]Boom5hot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh well I've probably always failed the shit test then because I never cared about such details and now I feel foolish. Thanks for the info

[–]averagecycle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AFBB= Alpha fucks, beta bucks. In this case Mr. 9pm (probably) bought her dinner and got nothing out of it (beta bucks), OP fucked her an hour later (alpha fucks).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow. Slow clapping Very nice.

[–]lepies_pegao 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so after 3 months working out(mentally and physically), I decided to give it a try. gonna post soon!

Thanks for the FR!

[–]Kernes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems that you mixed ideas of red pill and pick up

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you get her to agree to go to your place? Back at home how did you escalate to sex

[–]mast0rz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uhm, no link...

Thanks! You nailed that.

[–]pxsalmers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

good FR and thank you for adding the side comments, you definitely locked this down effortlessly.

[–]RobertPauleson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Game is strong with this one. Good work out there.

[–]Drafapula -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this is so retarded.

you were clearly better looking and she picked you to fuck.... hypergamy.... tinder..... why there was NO game here

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[–]1BadgerBurger 8 points9 points  (1 child)

He got a girl to buy him and drink and bang after just a few texts. He didn't even have to get off of his couch until he met the girl. It really doesn't get much easier.

[–]MelodyMyst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AND, he has provided proof of this encounter.

[–]duurrrrr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nice work squire!

[–]rothkochapel -1 points0 points  (0 children)

well played my friend, well played.

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[–]SadFace959 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You had me at cognitive dissonance. Well played.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Your first messages were on 18 may asking what she's doing today (sunday).

19 may she talks about that sunda night you had sex.

UHh, what? did I read something wrong?

[–]1Zanford -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Last message is after midnight so date flipped.

Awesome OP. Love the commentary. And the post sex happy message from her so you are FRA safe

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

its was @ 12:43 in the morning, which is officially 5/19...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fucking AM PM

[–]schwingaling -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Haha great lines. Personally I'd say you came on a bit needy/too into her (the "working up the courage" line especially) but maybe that's just personality differences, it clearly worked so keep doing what you're doing.

[–]hamstercide -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What did you blank out at the end where she said "in a ____ even"? In a latrine?

[–]boydeer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

quality. i have struggled with how to engage chicks on tinder unless they're very very forthcoming, so this helps.

out of the blue, my roommate got a match yesterday and within 3 hours was plowing her. he's got some sort of magical power over asian women, that son of a bitch. so proud.

[–]JohnNashoba -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm always hesitant of Tinder unless I'm only looking for a hookup. Girls I meet through it do not ever seem to be dateable though.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

failed the jumbotron test with your second text, bro.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That was laddish!

P.S. was she hot?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is great and all, but it's tinder. It's not like you bumped into her while waiting in line at the DMV. It's like getting a winning bid on eBay.

[–]ADarkerNight -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Sneakyninjapants tinder game all the way. That thread inspired my tinder shenanigans. I like OPs twist to go for the meetup, I usually push for a number. Might have to try this version.

[–]OKJaded[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I find the great amount of time that elapses from the first message to the first physical meeting is critical. Its a window thats closing. In my game its my greatest weakness. If the meetup is a week away I am almost always doomed. Either she flakes the day of or shows up and is boring as shit.

[–]ADarkerNight -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've had good success getting the number close quickly, running a tinder-text transition joke, and then going cold. When I am in their area doing something, I invite them to join me.

They are often excited and willing to meet up because they think I had forgotten about them. I frame it as a chance to finally meet that interesting guy, and don't revolve my plans around them. Flakes still happen, but the downside is being at the bar solo, which I would have been doing anyway.

'mirin your same day meetup game though brah, 10/10 would try.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We need more posts like this from pro's.

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[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well done bro, exactly how I treat my girls. My friends shit on me for texting playfully like you but it's worked well for me this semester with a bodycount of 9.

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[–]Raggos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For some, life is a dance, for the ignorant masses, it's a chore.

[–]todascuentas -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Listen, this is going to be a forgettable, uninteresting moment, one of thousands of self-same every day everywhere. *Unless* you send her this annotated log and then post her reaction. Break the cycle, focus on lolz. Bang her first or whatever it's about though.