Red Pill TheoryMy Compilation Of Core RedPill Books. Read, now. (self.TheRedPill)

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I'm sure most if not all of you know the importance of reading. It's been drilled into our heads since the first day of kindergarten that reading is a cornerstone of our education.

Reading increases your value, not just as a man but as a human being. Whole books filled with knowledge and years of experience compiled for you can be bought or borrowed (yes, for free!). People live, learn, and experience and put pen to paper to document their findings for the world to see. Yet most don't tap into this vast fountain of knowledge.

I can keep going on and on but I'm sure you get the point.

Here's my list of recommended RedPill reading material. Read and digest the sidebar, and when you're ready, come back for more to continue your journey. Enjoy the ride, Alice.

Beginner (Core)

No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover: This is the book that helped me realize all my years of beta behaviors and identify the root cause of why I was the way I was and where my behaviors (validation seeking, manipulating, emotionally impacted, frustrated pushover, etc) stemmed from (my childhood and teenage years). It helped me understand why certain behaviors are truly unhealthy and why the correct behaviors can right your ship as a man and instill a deep sense of confidence. If you've just recently swallowed the pill and still can't understand or are frustrated by the state of your current behaviors, this book is fantastic. Your basic core of TRP behaviors start here.

Models by Mark Manson: I started my self improvement journey really deep into PUA material. I wanted to prove to myself that I could indeed pull any girl I wanted. This culminated in little success due to the lines, concepts, and routines I learned in an attempt to seduce women. They saw right through it to my inner most deepest insecurities and confidence issues, and most importantly my sheer frustration, desperation, and anger towards them. There were nuggets of great information over in r/seduction and it definitely paved my way to discovering and swallowing TRP. This book cuts straight through the crap and goes to the nuts and bolts behind seduction and social dynamics. Manson focuses the first half of the book on bettering one's self and cultivating behaviors that create an attractive man whilst the second half is all about the actions you must take in order to present the attractive side that you've cultivated out to your subjects. Definitely read after No More Mr. Nice Guy.

How To Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie: You will learn how to do what this title of the book states and much, much more. A classic staple, Carnegie goes behind the psychology of how human beings interact and feel in a social dynamic. Lots of great examples and techniques on training yourself to be the guy that nobody can seem to get enough of.

The Book Of Pook by Pook: Free PDF. One of the most RedPill compilations you will see. Pook writes in a hilarious story telling style that conveys every TRP message clearly. Must read.

The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi: An avid poster on this TRP subreddit, Tomassi compiled all of his knowledge into a book that every man should read. Endorsed time and time again in this subreddit. He draws tons of RP knowledge and lessons into this book. One of the books that most users begin their RP journey with.


The Charisma Myth by Olivia Cabane: Leading on from How To Win Friends & Influence People, this book also goes into the psychology behind charm. Cabane states that charm is a skillset that can be learned by anybody. No one is cut from a different cloth. Very interesting to be able to figure out why and how certain people can learn and tap into charm and become quite powerful and influential from it. You can learn to build your skillset of charm through this book.

Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe: The essential beginning training guide to lifting. Rippetoe guides you through the why's, how's, do's, and don'ts of his acclaimed workout routine. Many many men have used this as their introduction to lifting. You will learn how to properly squat, deadlift, benchpress, powerclean, and overhead press your way into the body of the real man you are destined to be. Read and lift heavy.

The Power Of Now by Eckhart Tolle: Learn to leave your ego behind and live in the present moment. Tolle teaches you why so many are caught up in their lives and ego that it negatively affects how they live. He presents why and how to live in a state of presence: living in the now, as he calls it. This book truly helps you understand some of the factors holding you back from becoming the best person you can be right now. A little bit of a religious side in there but you can power through it.

Millionaire Fastlane by MJ Demarco: No this isn't some get rich quick scheme or ideas on how to make quick money. Demarco presents the idea in his book that there are different ways of thinking about money amongst people. The "Slowlane" way of thinking which is plagued by the ones who work paycheck to paycheck to survive, and the "Fastlane" way of thinking that breaks away from the norm of the typical "Go to school, get a job, save your money, retire at 65." mindset. Very interesting read on how to achieve wealth through changing your way of thinking.

The 7 Habits of Highly Successful People by Stephen Covey: Learn about and pick up the habits that have made people successful. Covey pinpoints and gives clear examples of habits that a person inhibits that helps them achieve success in any goal they're setting. Incredibly useful for ones who seem to have no motivation or start out strong in a goal and soon sputter out.


The Way of The Superior Man by David Deida: This book dives deep into man's deepest inhibitions and desires. Deida tells you how to take control of yourself as a man and learn to master work, women, and yourself. A lot of straight forward red pill advice on how to live your life as a fully satisfied man.

The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene: Models was the sneak preview of psychology of social dynamics between men and women. He lays everything out on the table with fantastic examples and stories. He helps you dive deep into your inner conscious and realize and recognize the behaviors that you exhibit and the ones you hope to obtain. The Art of Seduction will push you into the deep end of the pool. Greene dives straight into the psychology of sexuality, desire, and interaction between men and women and fully explains why a lot of RedPill concepts work as they should.

48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene: Be careful with this book. It will go deep into the many different dynamics of power and how it is obtained, used, and manipulated. This will teach you and make you aware of all the things going on around you and make you read between the lines of people. You will arm yourself with the knowledge to be able to read people who are trying to manipulate you or others, gain power, or cause cause. Or you can be the one doing those things with the techniques presented in the book.


Mastery by Robert Greene: The book to help you tie all the concepts together. Like most of his works; a lot of examples and concepts on how to bring everything together in your life and master anything you set your mind out to. It will take everything you have learned and will learn and presents it in a bigger picture in helping you find your most ultimate purpose and mastering it.

That's all for now.

Note: Experience will always be king. Reading should always be used as a supplementary guide.

tldr: Don't be a lazy fuck, read.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 77 points78 points  (34 children)

[–]AsianAway[S] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Rollo, I actually have a copy of your book in my Kindle library right now. I found the formatting of the book to be strange and somewhat difficult to read. I also figured that most will be able to head to your website and find the individual articles that are presented in the book itself.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I reissued a reformatted Kindle version in April. You can re-download the new one for free if you bought the old one.

[–]fapordie_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I concur. Great book, but the formatting is just terrible—the physical copy is, at least. I haven't read the Kindle version.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apparently the Kindle version has been redone, iirc.

[–]remember13 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Rollo, I agree with the formatting part, but the fact that the book has physical gives it approval by more conservative readers (those who think that blogs are just people expressing their own views, which is quite ironically, because most books do the thing). My dad, a natural alpha, read the book when I left it around the house. When I told him about this sub or about the Manosphere blogs, he refused to read them, saying that they are probably written by people with no life experience. After he read your book he agreed with it, but he disagreed with the fact that people disclose the red pill. He says that these are things that only men should know. He taught me a lot of redpill shit while growing up, but he also said at the end of each lesson "Son, this is just between you and me."

[–]1dongpal 6 points7 points  (4 children)

its like the women tell their daughters to keep the things secret as your dad did to you

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

This is actually common in tribal cultures. When children are separated by sex to undergo their traditional rites of passage into adulthood (boy into man, or girl into woman), they are told stories and wisdom that are never to be uttered in the presence of the opposite sex.

The saying is "Men's wisdom isn't for women's ears, and women's wisdom isn't for men's ears".

[–]1dongpal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And thanks to TRP we hear boths.

[–]breakin_badass 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I would go a step further and say that we're only just beginning to learn the full extent of this often terrible "inherited wisdom" that young girls are poisoned with by their mothers. Yes there are the allegories and parables they're told to plant the subconscious seed of disdain for men, but there's evidence of even more sinister information being passed on.

If you read some of the literature on female shamanism you'll find some pretty shocking and despicable stuff. This tribal voodoo practice has basically been imported into the America via these new age cult leaders, kept mostly a secret from men, and is now being taught to many young daughters as fact. The implications are far-reaching; the practices that are being passed down now range from simple mind-control rituals to perform on men, to full-blown necromancy. Whether or not you think it's hokum, these rituals are being practiced by many seemingly ordinary women every day, and the fact that this stuff is being taught to our children is just horrifying. I would definitely recommend the previously linked book if you want an enlightening peek into the twisted world of this esoteric new-age "femynysm".

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

While I'm sure your dad is a great man outside of this, his thoughts here are bullshit, what about people WITHOUT that very same role model he is? What about people with weak masculine role models?

They're SOL because they weren't fortunate enough to be born to the right people?

And where did HE learn to behave the way he does because I can guarantee you even if a lot of it does come naturally, he also had many teachers along the way.

[–]remember13 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, man, chill, please. He learned from his granddad, who from what I hear was kind of the Alpha Ideal of the Manosphere ( owner of a business, spinning plates well into old age, ex-soldier, very confident, leader of the community). My father is sort of an elitist, believing that the world is made of men and sub-men. He doesn't really care about other people, only the people that he considers friends and his family.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's actually a pretty good Machiavellian strategy. If you have an edge, especially if its something that can be learnt, you want it kept a secret as long as possible.

[–]2johnnight 18 points19 points  (10 children)

Yes, it's the one missing from this list.

Tolle should not be on the list. I read it. It's new age bullshit, harmful and antithetical to the red pill ideas.

[–]WarpWhistlee 5 points6 points  (9 children)

How so?

[–]2johnnight 2 points3 points  (8 children)

My first argument is that I read it several years ago, before I knew the red pill. As I can judge it now, it has done nothing to push me closer into red pill territory.

Second, here is a summary of four key themes in Tolle's book:

  1. The 'ego self', or 'mind', is not the 'true self'.

  2. We are all part of the Great Unity, or Ultimate Source, and to recognise this fact and drop the illusion of separateness and self is the key to enlightenment.

  3. Time is an illusion, and we should learn to live in the present or 'eternal Now'.

  4. Our attempts to gain primary fulfilment from external pleasures - be they material possessions, political or work-related power, success and recognition, or even the perfect loving relationship - carry with them an equal likelihood of pain and disappointment. By contrast, real fulfilment is an inner 'state of being'.

Tolle is about spirituality, while the red pill is materialism/biologism/hedonism. Tolle could not be more antithetical to the red pill!

Tolle tells that sex and status is an illusion. Tolle is asexual. Red pill tells you that your biological nature makes you crave sex and there is nothing wrong about wanting to fuck women. In fact, you have to work and improve yourself to acquire a better body and social status, so that they come to fuck you.

Tolle tells you to be that consciousness that enjoys being alone. Red pill tells you how to gain women and how to enjoy women. I wonder if Tolle ever got laid. He sure does not even lift.

Tolle sold a lot of books. He must be rich by now and acquired "spiritual teacher" status. Maybe that gets him laid now and he does not know it. Maybe that is the ticket: selling millions of books to suckers about how not to try to make money, not make a career, not get women and getting it all in the process.

Now, here is the only thing that might overlap with the red pill here. Tolle's "being in the moment" CAN look on the outside like Amused Mastery or the Alpha Budda. RSD/Tyler has advocated it back in 2007. You could say that "being in the moment" is being ... aloof and confident, but you do not need 200 pages for that.

[–]WarpWhistlee 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I actually discovered spirituality and the red pill nearly simultaneously. I think you've read maybe a little too much (or maybe I haven't extrapolated enough from what I've read) into some of his points. I'll take your paragraphs one at a time:

1) I think that the Red Pill has a strong element of discarding illusion in favor of the truth of the situation.

2) I don't think that Tolle is saying that sex and status are an illusion any more than anything else is (including the sense of pride ascetics can cultivate as a result of their difficult undertakings). I don't think Tolle or other mystical traditions preach the elimination of desire. I think that a better reading is that they (Tolle, Buddha or whoever) are encouraging us to move beyond our attachment to desire. To learn to be happy whether or not we get laid. I think that this ties in nicely to the whole idea that you need to be happy and thriving on your own before relationships with women will enhance your life at all.

3) In my opinion learning to identify more and more with the consciousness you speak of will not cause you to withdraw and enjoy increasing levels of solitude. If anything, it will get you in touch with the commonalities that we as human beings share. This consciousness is complete at all times past, present and future. Identifying with this will help you to realize that fucking 50 women will not add anything of real substance to yourself, your life or your ultimate happiness. This isn't to say that enjoying sex is wrong, more to say that if you don't love life before becoming successful in your pursuits with women, you certainly won't afterwards. Also, I don't think whether or not one gets laid regularly is the only or even primary standard to hold someone up to if you're going to be listening to their council.

3) I think you're close to something here. When you let go of needing to have that wealth, career and women I think that these things find their way to you much easier. The quasi-aloof attitude women (and, incidentally people you're trying to sell stuff to) seem to respond so well to becomes a natural extension of your inner state. If sexual desire arises internally, it is expressed externally without attachment to whether or not the desire is reciprocated. I don't think that Mr. Tolle or other spiritual teachers I have read advocate not doing anything or pursuing anything or having any goals. It's more about your relationship to those goals and those objects of desire.

I'd be interested to hear your reply. I don't really adhere to any ideology whether it be Buddhism, the power of now, the red pill, democracy or whatever. I just love exposing myself to different ways of coming at reality and using my own mind/heart/judgement to take what I like and leave the rest. Cheers.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (5 children)

red pill is materialism/biologism/hedonism

Sad. Red pill is about individualism and healthy, well-informed self-interest in men with respect to women. It's not about vanity, instincts, or pleasure-worship.

I don't like Tolle because he's such a softy. I prefer more conservative, rugged teachers like Thanissaro Bhikkhu or the Buddha himself, but if you extract the finest and most pure lessons from TRP, you basically arrive at a disciplined spiritual practice almost identical to Buddhism (of which Tolle is a loose representative).

[–]WarpWhistlee 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I'll have to check out Thanissaro Bhikku. Any recommendations? I kind of agree with you about Tolle being a bit of a softy, but I also think he's a pretty wise human.

[–]scarfox1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Tolle is or was a stepping stone for many people getting into deeper spirituality, he serves his function. To have him as your ultimate teacher? then yeah, you've probably fell into the category of fairweather Oprah fan

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't think Tolle is a great teacher. His audience seems to consist of the Oprah-type crowd, people who want to dabble, read a book, extract a small benefit, and move on with their lives, rather than people who are seriously committed to following the rabbit hole of truth wherever it leads and will exhaust their lives in that pursuit.

Check out the link I provided for Thanissaro Bhikku's dharma talks and start listening.

[–]WarpWhistlee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will. Thanks for the input.

[–]scarfox1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tolle has been with a woman named Kim Eng for some time I believe. You can be your true self and still play with concepts like TRP.

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[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I hope you will pass it on to others.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That was a glaring omission for sure.

[–]speakeasy2d 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This book is so good. I know it's compiled blog posts, but the outlook it has given me on gender roles is really something I wish I would have known 10 years ago in high school. This should be required reading for every teenage boy.

[–]egodidactus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great book. It really grounded my ideas on gender relations and relationship machinations.

Highly recommend it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the first book to read that i recommend to all friends that have problems with women. The rest come afterwards when the basics and theory is understood.

PS. Just wanted to use the opportunity to say thanks for saving my life. Would have been in a deeply depressive marriage with a borderline if it wasn't for your book.

[–]KingOfTheLops 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this beginner, intermediate, or advanced?

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[–]swallowthisthrowaway 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Thank you so much for this.

EDIT: I began reading the Manipulated Man. This book is paramount in understanding gender roles, and I personally feel that it explains amazingly why so many men feel dissasisfied with their lives and careers.

Here it is: http://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/the_manipulated_man.pdf

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[–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't seen 'Sperm Wars', by Robin Baker mentioned. This is one of the very best evolutionary psychology books for the layman. Combine this with 'My Secret Garden' and you've got a good handle on the female psyche.

[–]BroseppeVerdi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I feel like Warren Farrell's "The Myth of Male Power" is in that same vein, too. It's been out of print for quite some time now, but I think there's ebooks floating around.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While I agree with Farrell, since I've ingested TRP, I find MRAs to be a bit on the butthurt side. Farrell is a MRA, and adds little to TRP philosophy and tactics.

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A lot of these books have been mentioned before. But 7 habits of highly effective people has really helped me gain focus in my life. Machievelli's the prince is free. Its an ancient guide on gaining and maintaing power. Short but good read. Free online

[–]magicalbird 6 points7 points  (0 children)

48 laws of power should be a beginning read to guard against dark triad people.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I'm reading The Prince right now, and I'm pretty disappointed. So much common sense, and a lot if it is history of nobility.

I would add Self-Reliance by Ralph Waldo Emerson to the essentials.

[–]ColdEiric 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Common sense is not common.

[–]ace32229 14 points14 points [recovered]

You gotta realise that when reading books like The Prince or The Art of War, that they sound like common sense to us but when they were first written they weren't.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can recognize that. But, I'm making my way towards the end of The Prince, and it is getting much more applicable to daily circumstance.

[–]2emptyform 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I would put "Way of the Superior Man" as a beginner book, but only because it was a very soft landing into the RP world for me--it was the first book I read as a recovering beta 4 years ago, and it takes a very love-positive approach.

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That book introduced me to male sexuality.

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I had read a lot about being a man, but this book went above and beyond for me. I have the audiobook version and have listened to it twice already. It is true that we've been trained to please women, and not in the fun way.

[–]RedPillJohnny 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ordered No More Mr. Nice Guy and Rollo Tomasi's Rational Male today. Already started reading Greene's 48 laws. This sub rocks!

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Agreed. I had overlooked it from my Robert Greene collection but recently started it and it definitely holds weight to his other work.

Also consider his understudy Ryan Holiday's The Obstacle Is The Way.

[–]bobbyontario 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I have to recommend Seven Habits and The Power of Now. I read them sequentially that was the most influential month of my life, as far as awakening and connecting the dots of many other works. The progression of Dependence -> Independence -> Interdependence from the former and Presence from the latter come up everywhere. After those many other works seem like domain-specific applications of the wisdom contained there. OP is right on with their summaries of the handful that I've read, and now I have a handful more to read; thanks, OP!

I'm currently reading "The Way of Men" by Jack Donovan and recommend it so-far, it's up the alley of "The Way of the Superior Man" and "No More Mr. Nice Guy". I'm also re-reading "What Every Body is Saying," another very powerful work that I'd add.

Personally this stuff has really awakened my spirituality. I've been inclined toward Zen/eastern spirituality for a few years, but a lot of the principles in these works have really made what felt abstract in those works very clear... contemporary transcriptions of many of those ideas. For me as a somewhat rebellious / anxious / restless youth I connected with "Hardcore Zen" by Brad Warner, and another is "The Tao of Pooh" by Benjamin Hoff (a number of cute girls I've met have also read and enjoyed the latter, so good conversation piece on the coffee table also).

Thanks again.

[–]apollyon_jd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huge fan of the power of now, that's a must read once a year for me and I suggest for anyone who understands or wants to understand the importance of enlightenment and living in the moment.

Contrary to reviews I didn't get any true religious undertones even with the God points, but maybe that's because I'm not religious, just spiritual.

[–]tempus_wor 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Personally, I believe that Mastery should be near the beginner level, not because it a beginner level book, but because it teaches the reader to realize that you need to be in it for the long haul, it takes 5 years to become a master, discusses the need to have a mentor, and other valuable lessons that help the new redpiller needs to realize that they need to work toward the Mastery level. It is not for those who have worked their way through the other materials. It is for the motivation to work, and keep on track.

[–]scallopkid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could read it twice. Once at the beginning to understand where you're going and once at the end to get the most out of it.

[–]www777com 5 points6 points  (2 children)

What Men Still Don't Know About Women, Relationships, and Love by Dr. Herb Goldberg

In the first part of the book he's pretty brutal to men, but if you stick with it and read, you'll realize he's warning you of what you will become if you don't change. An example that I personally can relate to is going through life like you're some kind of insightful philosopher with the inevitable outcome being you're nothing but an alone, grumpy old man.

The other part of the book he talks about women. We all know men have an agenda...of sex, but what a lot of men fail to realize is women have an agenda of a relationship. He talks about how women will play the role of that special unicorn in order to get you in a relationship. It's only when you're locked in a relationship that you realize all the stuff you thought you had in common with her when you were first dating was really just her pretending to like the same things you like; she'll act any way she can to be in a relationship, just like a man will say anything to get laid.

He talks about the dangers of hippy, vegan chicks, really religious chicks, and women who are really attached to their family (think dating one of the Kardashians).

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I quite like those vegan chicks (who even knows why, don't pretend I do), care to elaborate a little about their unique dangers?

[–]www777com 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's been awhile since I read it so I don't quite remember why. Also keep in mind the author is generalizing. From what I vaguely remember and my spin on what I may be inaccurately remembering, hippy/vegan and religious chicks are so focused on their life-style that it drowns out any real work they need to do to maintain their adult relationships and they use their life-style as a beating stick when the relationship doesn't go their way. It is the same thing with women who are too involved with their families; the reverse would be a woman seeing trouble dating a momma's boy. It's like the relationship is never just about you and your partner, there's always some third-party (person, religion, or ideology) that gets in the way. A mature adult keeps things in balance.

[–]JihadDerp 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Meditations by Marcus aurellius should be on this list. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it in the comments yet.

[–]rogueman999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I think Senecca is a better pick. Marcus Aurelius is just too damn dark sometimes. But I'd still recommend everyone to read at least the first 2 books.

[–]1rife_omeqa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd recommend adding Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and Niccolo Machiavelli's The Prince to that list.

Good list, regardless.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSarcasticus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't see it listed, so I'll recommend Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Anyone who's focusing on self-improvement and goals should read this book.

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[–]boredinclass2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those who can do, those who cant teach.

[–]maderail 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Most will probably overlook The Millionaire Fastlane, but it's one of the very most important books mentioned. It's not perfect, but it was perhaps the most transformative book I've ever read; a status to which only How to Win Friends and Influence People aspires. And I've read most of the books on this list.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This should be a sticky for us newbies.

[–]megatron37 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this. I've read Nice Guy and Models, and both of them have had really positive effects on my life.

I was actually wondering this morning where to go next.

Saved for future reference, great list.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

33 Strategies of War by Robert Greene albeit not a core red pill book, is definitely related and I would recommend it as well.

Also 50th Law and The Obstacle Is The Way as mentioned in a different comment.

[–]hungoverseal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha that was a much better list than I was expecting.

Power of Now, Starting Strength, No more Mr.Nice Guy, Way of the Superior Man and definitely Fastlane Millionaire are all awesome. Not read most of the others but strangely for some reason I didn't find How to Win Friends and Influence People as good as everyone else raves about

[–]ziggitypumziggitypim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I was looking for today. I literally got to /r/theredpill for this purpose and there you were. Thanks a lot bro!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Might I also add... The Art of War

[–]fapordie_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a complement to Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends & Influence People, I recommend reading Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion.

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Good list

[–]norwegian_92 2 points2 points [recovered]

Becoming a Supple Leopard is also amazing, I got it a week ago, HIGHLY recommended.

Got my package from amazon with these books;

  • The Way of Men
  • 48 laws of power
  • Mastery
  • The 50th Law (BTW the audio for this is out on Spotify)
  • The 33 Strategies of War
  • The Way of the Superior Man
  • The Art of War
  • Becoming a Supple Leopard

Read Models and the Book of Pook.

I began with The Way of Men, half way through, any particular order I should read these? from beginner to advanced?

[–]willtopower2014 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does either the Book of Pook guy or Mark Manson have any infield videos?

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Has anyone here read "The Manual: What Women Want and How to Give It to Them"?

I just finished reading it and the whole time I was reading it I kept thinking that it was "TRP Light".

I highly recommend it for newbies.

[–]textualintercourse[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you want a 'classic' education on RP theory, The Moon and Sixpence by W. Somerset Maugham.


BluePill me of a 5 years ago would have said, "Fuck everything about that Charles Strickland guy!"

RedPill me of recent is like, "My God, this man is close to my Savior and King of MGTOW and owning his life."

This book hits on the human condition of superb form.

[–]DafyddBreen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sex God Method is one of my staples. If you're gonna be fucking, better be the best.

[–]laere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Currently reading "How to be an Alpha Male" By John Alexander, very similar to Book of Pook, but great read nonetheless.

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I disagree with Manson's models being for beginners. IMO, its for people that already have a black belt in inner game. Although its main point is that men should not be a afraid to take a loss, (being vulnerable to women) I do think that men have to build enough value (cultivate interesting hobbies) and inner game to fully pull it off. But that just me.


[–]boredinclass2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this this this this. When I first read it there is a lot of ambiguity as his "game" which is very sincere and less abrasive. I wouldnt recommend it to newbies who want results... it will send someone into a whirlwind of confusion unless you read "dominating women" or "taos of badass" which i would definitely recommend reading first.

Ive read a lot of the books on that list, I would definitely go about it in that order. Models is great insight, but can be taken the wrong way.

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Check out, " The War of Art: Break Through the Blocks and Win Your Inner Creative Battles" by Steven Pressfield it is brilliant. It will have you breaking through resistance barriers of all forms.

[–]mister_scruff 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I'd throw in "Richest Man in Babylon," as a great book for improving your finances.

[–]charlesbukowksi 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Or read a book on finance that does not involve goats

[–]Swiss_Cheese9797 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You a former IBO?

[–]dreckmal 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I really found The Manipulated Man to be a fascinating read. It has also profoundly affected the way in which I view women.

[–]badluser 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is that link an original digital version or a text version scanned with OCR? All of the "be"'s are "he"'s and lots of missing punctuation. Hard to believe a book over 20 years old would still have this many typos.

[–]dreckmal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe it was made with scanning software that was writing it to text, hence all the typos. It was a struggle to get past those, but once I started to get the information, I didn't give a shit about a couple misplaced or misspelled words.

[–]skinisblackmetallic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is a forum inspired by No More Mr. Nice Guy. I have found it helpful and enjoyable:


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There's some extra fluff in this list. Keep reading* to a minimal, go outside and live life. Make mistakes and learn from those. You can't read approach anxiety away.

For relationships/social dynamics: Book of Pook, How to Win Friends and Influence People, Rational Male And that's about it.

There's no need to read starting strength. Form videos can be found online. The routine is online. Strength training philosophy is rather simple: lift heavy, eat food, and continuously add weight.

*) = predicting responses detailing the horrors of not reading, let me specify. I mean reading as a means of taking the redpill/improving ones social skills and game.

[–]redbluepilling 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Had I not actually read SS, I wouldn't be as dedicated as I am. There's more to it than mimicking form in a video and hoping for the best. If you're serious about lifting, but lacking confidence, knowledge is power. As with TRP, it breaks down the details and gives in depth answers to Why?. Like the rest of the books, taking the time to read and immerse yourself in a subject helps mold your understanding, something that a cursory viewing tends not to do.

And like you say, practice. This applies to SS as well, perhaps in an even more tangible way. I just went back and read parts of SS last night and am making a few adjustments based upon what I've observed while in the gym.

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To each their own. Personally I see no need for Starting Strength. I did some research found videos of high bar squat form online, worked on my ankle and hip mobility, and was squatting well in 2 weeks. Dave Tate helped me out with my bench press form. And powercleans came easy for me.

Once you push form aside, SS is mostly Rippetoe's philosophy of weightlifting. There's nothing wrong with this, but problems arise when people new to weightlifting read this book, take it as objective truth (rather than opinions formed from years of weightlifting), and start to regurgitate Rippetoes philosophy.

Examples of this are:

  • strength base myth (you wanna focus solely on aesthetics? don't. get strong first. when you can bench two plates you'll good). If you do a split, focus on bodyparts, etc. You're wasting your time.

  • poor nutrition advice (Ripp. advises gaining several pounds a week. The problem with this being that most naturals can at best gain 1/2lb a week. When you gain 2 or 3 lbs, most of it is going to be fat.)

The only good thing I took from SS was the progressive overload principle; and I didn't need a 300 page book for that. What do I recommend?

  1. Go on youtube, watch different videos on form posted by different users
  2. Try the different styles (highbar, lowbar, etc) and different cues
  3. Find a form that you feel very comfortable/strong in that allows you to consistently increase weight.

The Starting Strength circlejerk is really annoying and polarizing. Most newbies just read it, absorb, and start to regurgitate Ripp's views rather than forming their own.

What do health/fitness books should people consider reading?

  • Anabolics - William Llewellyn
  • Flexible Dieting - Lyle McDonald
  • leangains.com - Martin Berkhan

For most people's goals nutrition > lifting. In my case changing my nutrition and find what works for me (high protein, carb cycling) has led to consistent gains while I'm cutting. Abs are coming out, more vascular, etc.

Bodyweight: 142 lbs @14%, losing 1lb/week

maxs from january: when I was around 155lbs

Bench: 150x1

Squat: 225x1

DL: 315x1

lifts this week's sessions: Bench: 145x6, Squat: 195x5, Deadlift: 285x4

[–]physicalchemistry 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Beside those:

Nietzsche, Therefore spoke zarathustra / Götzendämmerung (doesn't loose to much in the translation)

Goethe (preferably in german): Faust I; basicly everything is readable, but that one's my favorite.

if you want to learn german, other books that are way better in german: Pretty much anything from Gottfried Lessing, all the stuff from Nietzsche, Grimms Märchen. Goethe.


Candide by voltaire.

animal farm / 1984 by Orwell.

Brave new world by Huxley.

Read 1-2 of Shakespears plays. don't rely on summeries / interpretations, it ain't that hard.

A guide on how to cook won't hurt you.

additionally to english you should learn at least one foreign language.

Experience might make you king, but when used with knowledge the world is yours.

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[–]physicalchemistry -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it doesn't relate directly. If you keep in mind how he traveled around the world, came back to europe with insane amounts of gems / gold and proceeded to marry an old, ugly former sex slave. All because of 'love'. Therefore i will tread it as an example of what not to do.

[–]charlesbukowksi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like your taste in books.

[–]Johnny10toes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've read a few of these. Looks like I need to get to work.

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[–]infernalsatan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the list. OP would you mind adding the books recommended in the comments to the bottom of your list too?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good list

[–]1gerwig 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I Say No I Feel Guilty is a great read that teaches you how to be assertive.

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[–]karneadou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good list

[–]Thurar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would add these to the list :

Here is an excerpt from Sex and Character :

THE arguments which are in common use to justify a high opinion of woman have now been examined in all except a few points to which I shall recur, from the point of view of critical philosophy, and have been controverted. I hope that I have justified my deliberate choice of ground, although, indeed, Schopenhauer’s fate should have been a warning to me. His depreciation of women in his philosophical work “On Women,” has been frequently attributed to the circumstance that a beautiful Venetian girl, in whose company he was, fell in love with the extremely handsome personal appearance of Byron; as if a low opinion of women were not more likely to come to him who had had the best not the worst fortune with them. The practice of merely calling any one who assails woman a misogynist, instead of refuting argument by argument, has much to commend it. Hatred is never impartial, and, therefore, to describe a man as having an animus against the object of his criticism, is at once to lay him open to the charge of insincerity, immorality, and partiality, and one that can be made with a hyperbole of accusation and evasion of the point, which only equal its lack of justification. This sort of answer never fails in its object, which is to exempt the vindicator from refuting the actual statements. It is the oldest and handiest weapon of the large majority of men, who never wish to see woman as she is. No men who really think deeply about women retain a high opinion of them; men either despise women or they have never thought seriously about them.

From the Art of Love :

If she refuse to be kissed, kiss her all the same. She may struggle to begin with. "Horrid man!" she'll say; but if she fights, ’twill be a losing battle. Nevertheless, don't be too rough with her and hurt her dainty mouth. Don't give her cause to say that you're a brute. And if, after you've kissed her, you fail to take the rest, you don't deserve even what you've won. What more did you want to come to the fulfilment of your desires? Oh, shame on you! It was not your modesty, it was your stupid clownishness. You would have hurt her in the struggle, you say? But women like being hurt. What they like to give, they love to be robbed of. Every woman taken by force in a hurricane of passion is transported with delight; nothing you could give her pleases her like that. But when she comes forth scathless from a combat in which she might have been taken by assault, however pleased she may try to look, she is sorry in her heart. Phœbe was raped, and so, too, was her sister Elaira; and yet they loved their ravishers not a whit the less.

Alain Soral on feminism here

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here are the books the Professor has read since taking TRP. Each of these is on my course syllabus for this topic arranged by category:

Pick Up Artistry

Book of Pook by Pook

Bang: The Pickup Bible by Roosh

The Best of Roosh Volume I By Roosh

Day Bang: How to pick up girls during the day By Roosh

The Gentlemen's Guide to picking up women by Ian Ironwood

The Ironwood Collection of Alpha moves by Ian Ironwood

Pickup lines don't work by Vince Valentino

The Natural by Richard Ruina

Self Help and Married Advice

Married Men's Sex Life Primer 2011 (MMSL) by Athol Kay

Managed Attraction Plan (MAP) by Athol Kay

How to answer do these pants make my ass look fat? By Athol Kay

No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover

The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida

The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene

The 48 Laws of power by Robert Greene

The Enlightened Sex Manual by David Deida

The Sex God Method by Daniel Rose

Mens Rights/Trouble with boys

The End of Men by Hanna Rosin

The Manipulated Man by Eshter Vilar

Enjoy the Decline by Arron Clarey

The Flipside of Feminism by Suzanne Venker

The Manosphere: A new hope for Masculinity by Ian Ironwood

Men on Strike by Helen Smith

The War Against Boys by Christina Summers

The War on Men by Suzanne Venker

The way of men by Jack Donovan

Women First, men last by Steven Adams

Why boys fail by Richard Whitmore

Finally: The Rational Male is in a category by itself- the intellectual tour-de-force of the entire manosphere and TRP theory.

And for the Babes:

Fascinating Womanhood

The Surrendered Wife

[–]a_chill_bro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found 33 Strategies of War by Robert Greene really useful as well.

[–]8shark8 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Anyone know which of these have audio book versions? I commute about 2 hours every day so an audio book would be ideal.

[–]boredinclass2 0 points1 point  (2 children)

rhymes with whorrents. a good site would be (f)iratebay.org. with a p instead of an f. thats how i got mine.

[–]8shark8 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Haha, I know about how to get them. I just wanted to know if the audio book versions exist for any of these.

[–]boredinclass2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah some of them do. Is say about a third of these do.

[–]lloopy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saving from my phone.

[–]henry589 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shit I started with the book, Mastery, It is a really good fucking book.

[–]RPL23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would add "Mindset" by Carol Dweck.

[–]ER_HerbalTea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That feeling when you've read these books already. All of them great reads.

[–]CSMastermind 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Always found the Robert Greene books to be fluff.

[–]okletstryanother[🍰] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Care to elaborate?

[–]CSMastermind 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I have two main complaints:

  1. There isn't a coherent theme to any of the books, it's a bunch of disconnected examples. Some make sense, some don't, sometimes they contradict each other.
  2. It's sort of like trying to draw meaning from horoscopes, all of the examples are so generally worded that you can interpret them to mean whatever you want.

[–]okletstryanother[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks bro.. I need to get my critical thinking and analysis game on track.

[–]Faptilldeath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with this right here

[–]Alpha2013 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huge oversight not to include Rational Male on this list. You'd be a fool not to read it.

[–]lentil_king 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In case you don't like to read or can't find the time, I just went through Audible and all of the books mentioned by OP are on there except Starting Strength, Millionaire Fast Lane, and Book of Pook.

For $150, you can get all of those books (minus the exceptions), plus three credits left over. Sign up for a free trial for two credits, cancel immediately, buy 12 credits for $150.

I'm an audiobook junkie (I listen in transit and while working out) and if you go by the method I stated above, the cost won't be much different than Kindle or print. Plus you get the emotion of the narrator, which I find helps to absorb info (good for the auditory among us).

Good luck on the journey, gents.

[–]Red_Pill_302 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gold post

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have read most of these books, I agree they have quality content. Would add the way of the superior man and mind made prison.

I will add that audio books are a great tool. Whenever I have a monotonous task in work, I'm driving out waiting I'll listen to a book. Can do 1 extra book a week this way.

[–]Z-Coordinate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha you listed the Starting Strength book, I like you.

[–]Crazystarf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually a well compiled list of books from beginner to advanced; hopefully a mod can sticky this thread before it gets lost a few days later.


[–]mastapetz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Starting Strength, the book, is quite annoying to read. Google it, find the beginners guide FAQ, read that. While there are some good tips on improving form, a lot of it is filled with so many physics and mathematics that your head might start to mushy from all that stuff.

And if you read it, don't follow his nutrition blabberings, it isn't a lot, but that what is in it is cringe worthy.

You might also look into YOYAG if you don't want to go to the gym or for whatever reason don't want to do barbell stuff. Working out with your body weight is an awesome start to get fitter. And no, it is not to easy, try some of those exercises and enjoy the DOMS afterwards.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am I the only one who didn't like How to Win Friends & Influence People? I'm naturally inclined towards pleasing people and making them feel good (similarly to what the book advocates), and it was only after I started to be more direct and blunt when I had to that people started to respect me more.

[–]Browsezereddit -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Thanks a lot for this great list. Some of the books are already in r/redpillbooks, but the comments you wrote on each of them are very valuable. The only one I have troubles with is "the way of the superior man", which i found too full of new age gibberish to be readable. Also, why did you put "the 48 laws of power" in the advanced section? Just curious to read your reasons, as I was planning to read it and don't consider myself advanced at all right now. Upvoted!

[–]AsianAway[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

"48 Laws" is really focused on manipulation and power control. Not an easy read for most who have certain morals or religious ideals. I placed it in that section because I want the beginners to have a good introduction and base into TRP through core concepts whilst more intermediate TRP-ers who have already swallowed the pill will find the book helpful in instilling this set of behaviors (if they wish; "dark triad traits"). It's there at least for most to be able to identify people's hidden agendas and to not let one's self fall victim.

[–]magicalbird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It should be in beginning section to prevent men from dark triad women and other men.

It's a great counter strategy book if you have morals.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Forsake your moral and religious convictions if you want to use 48Laws to your advantage .

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It would be rash to disregard the possible metaphysical advantages of certain moral and religious convictions, beyond gaining fleeting selfish advantages in day to day life.

Just an example, Christian martyrs were ready and willing to die torturously, rather than forsake some of those things. Think about that; it's evidence of a completely different inner order of rank between ideas like "efficiency", "self", "benefit", and "truth".

What do you think this man would be ready to die for? Atheism for today's youth is as inescapable as pacifism, it is not a choice, one simply does not have the balls to be uncompromisingly religious and warlike.

[–]remember13 -5 points-4 points  (13 children)

Eckhart Tolle is a piece of shit who writes for stupid Americans. Read Nietzsche, Schopenhauer for philosophy.

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[–]remember13 0 points1 point  (2 children)

He is a bad writer, absolutely no style and no original idea. I would replace it with 365 Daily Tao Meditations By Deng Ming Dao. Full of RP wisdom.

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[–]remember13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A degree from Cambridge doesn't necessarily mean that his style is good. Is not about breaking the norms, but how clear he expresses his ideas. He is not coherent, not because of the hardships of his style, but because some of his ideas aren't clear to him. You should read what Tolle read, not read Tolle IMO

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Right, I mean, if you aren't going to bother reading difficult works that most people may find intimidating and esoteric, why bother at all?

Kind of like how if you aren't an elite athlete or at the gym seven days a week, better get on the couch and start sucking down Big Macs.

STFU. Save your jerking off for r/atheism.

[–]remember13 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Proper philosophy is esoteric for people who do not open the fucking books. I know people who haven't finished high school but still read and understood Nietzsche. Tolle is intellectual porn, not really challenging or original, but makes the reader feel enlightened or smart.

[–]Endorsed ContributorLastRevision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thematically, let's reduce Tolle to present moment awareness and the abandonment of the ego/ego based identity. Read TRP enough and see how many people would find this idea new and foreign; better yet, take a look at r/atheism. Both subs are supposedly intellectually advanced, but could use a solid dose of ego extinction.

[–]charlesbukowksi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Especially Schopenhauer and his Counsels and Maxims. He's easier to digest than non-aphorism Nietzsche.

[–]hungoverseal 0 points1 point  (3 children)

British and well educated. Tolle's stuff is dope. You just have to read between the lines to get away from the new-agey tone

[–]remember13 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

The fact that is British doesn't say much to me and there are a lot of fools with a degree. Calling and a philosopher's work "dope" tells me that you are quite ignorant regarding philosophy. Also, I, from my most humble experience with philosophy, thought that that exactly was the point of philosophy- NOT TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES. Having a new-agey tone is not the problem with Tolle.

Tolle is just a sub-par writer who has a wide un-educated audience. For me who has a boy read Plato, Nietzsche, Unamuno, Cioran, telling me to read Tolle is a joke.

[–]hungoverseal 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It doesn't mean anything to me either, it was just a response to your nationality issues.

Out of interest then seeing as you have read so much, what is the issue with Tolle? To me his lessons regarding Ego are some of the single most important things a man looking to improve himself can learn.

[–]remember13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tolle is German. I have nothing against any nationality, just stating the fact that the American cultural elite is quite ignorant of many European treasurers of the mind.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having read the Power of Now I completely agree with you but that book did open my eyes to philosophy, zen and eventually stoicism. It is a decent beginner book.

[–]Kunichi -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you read it all, then you are basically the super man lol

[–]Gstreetshit -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I want to throw in a book called; High Heels and Dirty Deals by Bret Tate. It's just a compilation of Red Pill behavior and hilarious at times.

The second half of the book is where this really helps one out. It's explains an asset protection plan for saving yourself from the gold digging nature in women.


Also: Sperm Wars by Robin Baker. Read it.

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[–]volvonerfwisp -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I just found out that 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' has been translated into Japanese. I think I'll read the translated version for practice as well as to train my mind. Thanks for the recommendation!

[–]batheinblood -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

You forgot American Psycho