Do you miss that innocence from the Blue Pill?

RedLegendx · 2018-10-10T22:46:06+00:00

No. Not anymore.

SynfulVisions · 2018-10-11T02:27:38+00:00

I miss being able to legitimately care about anything.

buddhismo_communismo · 2018-10-11T01:55:37+00:00

I miss some things. I miss actually BELIEVING the lyrics in a classic Stevie Wonder song, but they are still fun songs and I enjoy singing them regardless. I miss listening to dudes pine about being the best man they could be for there girl without thinking "You sorry fucking Simp. Let your nuts hang for God sake". I miss not being able to interface genuinely with my BP friends. Here they are obsessing over compatibility and conversation and I'm suggesting to them that dating women is like invading Russia (if you can't hoist your flag in 30 days pull out). Alot has changed. For the better. Simpin ain't easy.

Brushyourteethm8 · 2018-10-10T23:00:23+00:00

No, I cringe at the thought of it

seedster5 · 2018-10-11T02:39:05+00:00

Absolutely not. I'm now armed with the knowledge I've never had and don't give two shits about beta problems. My goals are as clear as day

KidWonder101 · 2018-10-11T01:43:12+00:00

Hell yeah, I miss it somewhat. Would I ever go back? Hell no. I cringe at some of the ways I acted back in the day.

Here's the thing. When you swallow the red pill, your entire mindset and perspective changes permanently.

You can see under the "veil", you can see and understand how things work on the primal level. You can see and predict the demise of blue pill men well before anybody else does.

While this is nice and extremely advantageous, it can take a toll on the mind of people who weren't already "natural" red-pillers. You're more aware, maybe 'too aware in some situations.

It takes the innocent naive humanity out of you sometimes. That's what you miss.

mrpoopistan · 2018-10-11T03:07:39+00:00

I was never a particularly innocent person even in that phase of my life.

For me, the blue pill period was marked by endless confusion and anger driven by that confusion. I look back and all I think about is, "Holy shit, I could've been getting laid left and right if I hadn't been getting pissed about the little moments women who were interested in me jerked me around."

Just understanding what a shit test is was like going to the Stone Age to interstellar travel for me.

So, nope. I have no clue why anyone would yearn for that bygone time.

ainihon · 2018-10-11T02:53:35+00:00

At times yes. How you can just be yourself, believe for a moment a girl genuinely loves you for who you Are. Then I remember all the shit I’ve been through just being myself and believing in love, then I’m back to the reality of trp.

Reddit is a blessing. But also an asshole for the quarantine. I’m thirsty for more knowledge that empower us men. But hey, feminism must have its day day.

TheLastMgtow · 2018-10-11T02:33:13+00:00

There was certainly a different energy to it. Because i didnt understand the world around me i put insane amount of effort into the gym, gained muscle and was always ripped. I was also a criminal and violent. But i still saw the world as some fucked up shit i didnt understand. The bluepill makes men go to war and sacrifice themselves for worshipping women. The redpill although red it forces you to think by your own head no matter what they tried to hammer into it.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2018-10-11T00:17:02+00:00

People who reminisce about the innocence of childhood were never actually children.

You just want to go back into the denial cave.

TopofToronto · 2018-10-11T03:11:23+00:00

No not really.

I have had moments of missing the naivety and dumb optimism of the start of the night of going out to pick up women

But then I take off the rose tinted glasses and recall the hours / days of horrible deep depression and pain and beating myself up because I was doing everything "they" said, "women told me to do this why are not women liking me" and i thought it was me I thought I was a huge loser.

The downside with the RP, I hate being so aware of women hamstering is the only thing, although it saves time in arguing with a woman. It makes me feel alone even with a woman there.

IE , I am tall. Female neighbor asked to hang a light . Sure. put it together , she is missing a part. Can't find part. Okay try and find a substitute. She grabs a random object. "There !" .

I logically say why we can't use it and what we need and the purpose that does. --- She hamsters in her hamster wheel why we should use the random thing. I point out the flaw in her part again, and describe the characteristic of the part we need.

She repeats the same hamster wheel act.

So I used her random object and the lamp will fall on someone's head -- not mine so who cares.

But just after that -- it is like not being in the room with a real person. Just something with robotic responses.

ItzFizzy1 · 2018-10-11T01:29:50+00:00

meh I do get what you mean but I cringe when I think about it. Sometimes I wish life was a fantasy where people had loves of their lives and stuff, like what you hear in country love songs.

jizzonmypants · 2018-10-11T01:34:57+00:00

Nah I hate it in fact, so much shyt I ‘ve done

[deleted] · 2018-10-11T02:47:42+00:00

Nope, just fucking cringe because I know all this "love" I was showing is exactly why I didn't get laid before 19 years of age to a 5/10.

wilkins_micawber · 2018-10-11T03:01:43+00:00

Ignorance is bliss while reality is a bitch.

tudor07 · 2018-10-11T05:15:52+00:00

Once upon a time- ignorance is bliss, ya know? I remember thinking my girlfriend actually loved me the way I loved her- no such damn thing of course. But when I believed it, I was happy. Now I'm not happy- I'm just better.

Edit: to make it clear being better IS better than being happy

Flintblood · 2018-10-11T03:29:13+00:00

I miss the idea that true romantic love could be an ideal and mission. Maybe that’s why religions make the focus of marriage as s partnership devoted to loving god instead being star crossed for each other like Romeo and Juliet.

I don’t miss being a doormat, a victim. I don’t miss having much less agency and command of my male destiny.

juggernaut8 · 2018-10-11T05:11:45+00:00

Except it wasn't pure and honest, it was bullshit indoctrination brought upon by societal nonsense and sappy love songs. Bluepilled shit isn't love, it's neediness masquerading as love.

Morphs_ · 2018-10-11T07:17:05+00:00

I used to wonder if it was possible to be completely head over heels in love with a girl, and her feeling the same. The times I had the strongest feelings of being in love were always the times when I was rejected.

As I found out myself, it's not possible to have an LTR with a girl of equal SMV because of dating up/down mechanics. All my life, my experience is either that I'm not as much in love as the girl (me = higher SMV), I get bored eventually, or the other way around and it doesn't work out because her SMV is higher and I behaved like a bitch.

Nowadays I consider being in love something to avoid.

Listening to the lyrics of love songs on the radio makes my ears bleed.

dtyler86 · 2018-10-11T03:16:41+00:00

Yeah especially for me lately. My gf broke up with me over the weekend because she saw photos on my cloud that I had banged an ex when were met together for a few months last year. She’s such a good hearted and traditional girl that I often find myself saying, dude, TRP doesn’t exist because of girls like her. Even when she gets mad threatens she’s going to do something that would piss me off, she ends up going home and watching movies with her mother because she’s afraid if she went out partying with her friends I’d leave her. It’s almost like she’s trained, but feeling like every gf is going to resent you sucks. They don’t see it as; oh my bf will be fine and move on without me, they see it as being controlling and that’s something I miss about being the beta me I was in college.

oddlyaroused · 2018-10-11T13:11:27+00:00

TBH sometimes I miss the blue pill days.

It is so easy to blame everyone and everything else for my own shortcomings.

Women only date assholes, healthy at every size, the inner values matter, politicians only want the best for us, only jerks and idiots lift weights, being a male feminism will get you some pussy because they will reward you for your progressive views....

All the lies they try to shove down our throats. It would be so easy to live by them.

But it´s not.

You are the shaper of your world, body and soul. And althoug I have a very long way to go in my mental and physical state, once you swallowed the red pill there is no going back. Compare it to the ability to ride a bike, you won´t "unlearn" it, you won´t forget it. You will always be able to ride the bike, you may get a bit rusty if you haven´t for a long time and need to get used to it again, but you won´t forget how to do it.

Its the same with the red pill. It won´t go away. Even if you try.

LLL3peat · 2018-10-11T14:40:52+00:00

I still have it. You just know how to play the game. Emotions and attachments are there. You figure out how and what to do. Everything is a calculated decision more or less. Life, work, women, family. Care love and genuinely care about people? Oh yeah big time. But you see the red flags and you can either care or know when to pull your investment and affection away from people. That's the biggest difference once you've been out of the anger phase for quite some time

[deleted] · 2018-10-11T15:34:06+00:00

I sort of see what you mean. Like, I recently found out that an acquaintance of mine's wife has fucked at least two dudes since they got married, and he knows and is still with her and has impregnated her since finding out.

I went to their wedding, I was friends with that girl from my BP days, and she even told me she'd never touched anyone else since being with her husband.

Stuff like that makes me feel bleak and nihilistic. But then fuck it, better to know right? Awalt, but some women seem to less prone to it than others.

I just enjoy my time with women, and when it comes to an end, so be it. There's always other women out there. I feel a great freedom that my emotions are much more in my control than when I was a BP beta

JustSatan · 2018-10-11T04:01:06+00:00

Yeah, I have. I actually stopped getting drunk, though. If you're interested in controlling your emotions, then getting drunk makes no sense.

allcity28 · 2018-10-11T02:55:08+00:00

I don’t miss it one bit. I look back and just cringe at the thought of it. My eyes are wide open and I never want to look back at those blue pill years.

CaptainBW · 2018-10-11T02:58:24+00:00

I just experienced something like this a few days ago myself. So, yes. Feel the same way you do man. Only thing to do is appreciate it for what it was and be happy it’s lead to wisdom. Some fellas spend their lives and die in a woman’s Frame without ever knowing anything else. Let’s find comfort knowing we will have avoided that lol

Quaternionz · 2018-10-11T03:26:04+00:00

I used to, not anymore. Now I just cringe.

gbnz87 · 2018-10-11T03:44:30+00:00

I dont think my mindset has changed significantly. Im just more mature and more diciplined about some things since ive hit my 30s. Sure I have done some beta things or made the wrong moves with some women but you learn and move on. Everyone makes these mistakes when they are younger and learning about the opposite sex, I wouldnt consider my self naive or stupid during that time. I just had to learn how to deal with certain situations. No one has it all figured out when you first start chasing girls in your teens or 20s, it takes experience like everything else in this world.

rockyp32 · 2018-10-11T03:53:31+00:00

I’m no TRP expert by any means but I feel marriage is possible for many people but now a days it’s just a lot harder due to so many options lack of morals and always wanting instant gratification

waynebradysworld · 2018-10-11T04:27:14+00:00

Nope, never had it

Rp was easy for me because somehow I had already observed most of these phenomena, reading it in concise terms was just affirmation and encouragement to believe.

furcryingoutloud · 2018-10-11T04:40:38+00:00

Actually, I really miss Santa Claus.

jay_jay_man · 2018-10-11T04:53:16+00:00

Hell no. I was society's manipulated bitter workhorse before the redpill. In my bluepill days I was at the bottom of the pecking order. I didn't understand why no one seemed to like me for being such a "nice guy".

Now, I'm not a 10/10 but I have a decent body, take care of myself, and can see when women are being manipulative.

Missing the blue pill for me is like missing the awkwardness of teenage years.

beautifulmanlet · 2018-10-11T05:18:04+00:00

I miss being blissfully ignorant and believing the lies women tell. I've got a great plate right now who I'll likely upgrade soon who loves to just stare at me and tell me I'm gorgeous and special. Blue pull me would have loved it... now? Lets be real.

hiddenpersona · 2018-10-11T05:20:56+00:00

Fake happiness and false beliefs. Definitely not. Redpill opened my eyes and made me a man and made me find my passion instead of swimming in a huge ocean lost in emotions. Yes it’s hard and a harsh truth but once you understand and implement it it gives you freedom and true happiness. I’m glad I was blue pilled because I have incredible knowledge about everything and every social dynamic now that it’s crazy it’s like being Neo instead of that pussy ass Chyper.

lastdumra · 2018-10-11T05:25:05+00:00

No. I never understood that mentality.

Being blue pill is horrible, it is miserable.

imtheoneimmortal · 2018-10-11T08:17:49+00:00

Is about prospective, you are not 0% BP, you have nuances and that's ok
I got also these moments like "why sometimes things are so harder like lifting, make the 1st mission..."

TheStumblingWolf · 2018-10-11T08:36:09+00:00

Not at all. I prefer knowing what's going on around me and why people say and do the shit they do. I was clueless before and it affected me a lot, and I had no idea why back then.

koedeloe · 2018-10-11T09:18:22+00:00

I have yet to experience it. I'm 22 years old, but I've never been truly in love. I've dated 4 girls, longest one was 5 months. I ended all 4 off the relationships, my heart has never been broken. I think most people need to have their heart broken atleast once before they can stop caring for real. So.. I can't really miss pure and honest love, because I've never had it. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing?

HeadingRed · 2018-10-11T12:25:19+00:00

I don't miss it with women - it's actually made me happier being able to predict behavior and by doing that avoid drama.

I don't miss the innocence - I never had that. I miss some of my optimism regarding women I get close to and people in general. I thought I was gifted in my ability to find the "good ones"

Now that I better see what people do, and more often before they do it. Sometimes its a drag but mostly its good.

No I don't miss it - it's lowered the amount of times I get disappointed and hurt.

ArcangeloPT · 2018-10-11T14:16:15+00:00

I understand what you mean. Before TRP I’ve always had LTR’s. Many of which I was deeply in love and I was happy or so I thought. But the last one was the nail on the coffin. It completely shattered me and here I am. Even back then I found myself frustrated and angry but I just didn’t know why. It was me all along. It’s amazing that I was getting laid at all back then but since TRP its been a whole another ballgame.

Gone from purity fantasies and pussy worshiping to having multiple girls over on a daily basis and dating others on the side. I’m not a Casanova by any means I’m just saying that it is something I thought impossible. What’s funny is that I feel the roles are inverted. Being told that I’m so “kissable”, interesting, and a breath of fresh air to the point where I’m getting super testament like texts stating how much of a positive impact I’ve made on my plates lives is something that has become regular with almost 0 effort on my behalf.

Do I miss those times? Yes in a way, there were good times with these girls. I don’t blame them. Would I go back? Never. I’m becoming a man as whole without leaning on any outside source. And that has made all the difference. I truly think that, at least for me, that is what’s at the very core of what it means to be awake. From here it all stemmed for me and it made sense at last.

[deleted] · 2018-10-11T14:25:39+00:00

No, and I don’t miss believing in Santa Claus either.

Seeing the world and people for who and what they are is much better than projecting some Disney fantasy on them.

It’s also much fairer for both involved.

TRP preaches that the only person that can make you happy is yourself.

JSuma · 2018-10-11T14:39:51+00:00

I once saw a TRP post about a guy explaining how understanding the game does not mean you cant enjoy it. Though he had many plates, he genuinely cared about each one of them and wished them all the best as they came and went. While I am not at that point platewise, appreciating my emotions for what they are has kept me from feeling like a robot when I must act against them.

BlackVale · 2018-10-11T14:52:49+00:00

No I don’t miss it at all. I was never really BP to begin with (AA really can’t afford to be). I had a few BP tendencies but I always knew women never really cared about men thanks to my relationship with my mother. My father didn’t really teach me much growing up but he always warned me about women. So I got off a bit lucky.

latinasonly · 2018-10-11T15:04:29+00:00

When I was "blue pill" before learning game , girls didn't give me any attention at all to begin with , treated me like I was some sort of psycho , and in general people used to ignore and belittle me . Do I miss the "innocence" of those days ? No.

TFWnoLTR · 2018-10-11T17:46:13+00:00

Yeah, but then I remember how literally every time I actually decided to go back to that attitude I got burned bad. Then I get angry for a bit before calming down. The space between episodes gets longer and the duration shorter as time goes on.

coolredpill · 2018-10-11T19:54:01+00:00

ignorance is bliss

but bliss isn't where you want to be

dariusjames · 2018-10-11T21:18:13+00:00

Rarely. But yeah,I do miss those times where you were once too innocent. That you would genuinely care about someone. Thinking that there's this person you want to be with and make your relationship work. but when trp kicks in. I just cringe. Like naahh. No way in hell I want to be fucked up anymore or be manipulated and be used chasing girls around, doing anything for them. I'm better and much happier now with all the knowledge and experience i got after taking the red pill.

carb0ncl1mber · 2018-10-11T03:01:58+00:00

No, I don't miss being a slave to my emotions and feelings.

Olram_Sacul · 2018-10-11T13:38:28+00:00

Fuck no. Besides, TRP is not only about women. It is how you see the world and how to act accordingly