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Recently moved into an apartment with a lady friend of mine. We’re both living out of city, out of state, and have recently started postgrad programs at the same university. We’ve been tight for the last six months, feelings have developed. Before the accusations of oneitis get thrown my way…let me just say that, yes. But that is besides that point for now. Just this last weekend, she brought me a gift of pussy. And I’m trying to understand why… We spent Saturday building IKEA furniture. We split that tasks, but I easily did 80% of the work. Girls are useless at building stuff, but again, that is beside the point. So in the evening, to make use of the new dining room table, she decides to invite two of her friends over to have dinner with us. We all get a little drunk, and through a series of rather clever little maneuvers, she (flatmate) gets me into the kitchen, alone, with her wonderfully petite HB8 Macedonian friend. Interest established. Escalated. Done. Easiest pussy I ever done had. In the morning after brunch (flatmate made us fucking brunch), Mediterranean girl goes home (Jesus her fucking eyes), and flatmate says…“Thank you for your help yesterday, I hope you enjoyed yourself last night.” The question is…did my flatmate bring me a gift of pussy? And how can I nurture this type of behavior?


[–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (20 children)

A gift of pussy

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[–]RojoEscarlata 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The books peaked at A Storm of Sluts

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If there was ever a dank meme that the redpill could get behind.

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[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (4 children)

Yes, a gift of pussy

I swear, this will become the new TRP inside joke

[–]Overzealous_BlackGuy 12 points13 points  (3 children)

The title made me chuckle, its definitely not a gift lol. This definitely makes things clear that there shouldnt be feelings involved.

My best guess is shes trying to pass him off to someone else, so she has some wiggle room. They are roommates if im not mistaken, feelings would make things ugly.

If a woman is okay with you fucking someone else, it more times than not means she does not want to claim you. To her it may have been to buddies having sex, because lets be real its not the best idea to catch feelings for your roomie. Her making brunch proves this. Shes trying to make it clear that she approves of him doing this.

I don't think theres more to this unless she does it again. If thats her intentions it will happen again, but i believe it should be a sign to focus more on other women.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Holy shit you're right. I totally got hooked up with another girl because the first one was looking for other types (read: not her age).

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[–]Overzealous_BlackGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah. You're giving it too much thought

[–]Requires-citation 5 points6 points  (4 children)

What was that last part again ? Please elaborate on the aunt story.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I think his aunt gave him a gift of pussy. If I'm not mistaken.

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[–]daftpunkfunk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We need pics.

[–]scarfox1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not even the gift of pussy eh?

[–]RojoEscarlata 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Women do this all the time thought, cousins, friends, my sister my aunt my mom for God's sake.

It's a women's thing.

[–]mksu 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's like poetry

[–]RojoEscarlata 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I would keep doing the same thing you are doing.

If you want the same results keep doing the same thing, heh.

[–]1InformalCriticism 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The definition of sanity.

[–]gorbal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She probably wants to maintain a friendship with you while you are living together. If things develop past friendship it could get complicated.

[–]1InformalCriticism 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I've seen this before. Girls with lonely friends will say "I know a guy". Chances are pretty good this was a one-time thing, unless she has a lot of lonely friends. What I mean is, by your own admission, you had almost nothing to do with the encounter. If you want her to be as likely as she was before to do these favors for her friends using you while she does it, keep doing whatever you were doing before - any change in behavior or treatment of her could bump you down the list of guys she talks up to her lonely friends.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (28 children)

When you see the Macedonian girl again, i got some lines for you to split son

"Gubawo dupe"

Translation: Nice ass

"yash mi patkata"

Translation: eat my cock

"dobro momiche"

Translation: good girl

source: am bulgarian

[–]Ignacio14 10 points11 points  (23 children)

Q: who is a Macedonian?

A: a Bulgarian with a brainwash.

ba-dum-tss

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (22 children)

Q: who is an Ukrainian?

A: a stupid Russian

slavs ripping on each other :D

[–]Ignacio14 0 points1 point  (21 children)

Ok, this one's gonna be brutal, but no offense to any poles reading this:

How did pollacks come into existence? Drunk russian fucked a pig.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (20 children)

albanian girl comes in and says: daddy im pregnant

father asks: is it mine?

[–]Ignacio14 8 points9 points  (19 children)

Q: What does a Polish man after an orgasm?

A: Wipes his butt.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Savage

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (17 children)

Q) An Albanian, and Bosnian jump off a building at the same time .. who hits the ground first?

A) Who cares!

[–]Ignacio14 6 points7 points  (16 children)

Hahaha. Why no one likes to play chess with a gipsy? Because he steals all the horses.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (15 children)

Q) Did you hear about the Lithuanian bitch who told her husband, Give me 10 inches and make it hurt.

A) He fucked her twice and threw her down the stairs.

[–]Ignacio14 4 points5 points  (14 children)

Q: Why do Serbs drive with their windows up?

A: They think the smell is coming from outside.

[–]MinisterOf 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Watch out. In Macedonian/Serbian/Croatian, "gubavo" means "affected by leprosy". The word you're looking for is "ubavo".

[–]1wakethfkupneo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Came here to say this (I'm Serbian). Although she'll laugh either way.

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

great. but remember to not pronounce "u" like "u", but "ou", otherwise it will sound like "mushroom hole"

[–]dukechaz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IKEA - Swedish for a gift of pussy.

[–]frerri 8 points9 points  (14 children)

Yea she did. Nurture it by taking care of your flatmate. Take care of her as a friend, make sure she's comfortable around you. Turn alittle blue around her. BUT remain on your path and display to her that you're growing and working hard on yourself everyday.

You want to be 60% blue and 40% red around her and listen to her problems and shit.

Then she will trust you alot and give you warm intruductions and warm arpproaches to her female friends. Unless she falls in love with you...

[–]Luis_McLovin 23 points24 points  (12 children)

What the fuck? No. Don't be blue. Continue being a dominant alpha red man. What benefit does he gain from being blue?!?

Be red.

If shes into you as you are red, and you're into her, fuck her. simple. if you dont want to, then dont.

thats it.

there is nothing more to it.

if you want to meet her friends as a red man, ask her "hey you should invite me to meet your friends" or "im going to a party this weekend. come and bring your cute friend" thats you taking action instead of being a PUSSY and waiting for HER to bring the pussy to you!! GO GET IT YOURSELF.

Go big or go home. If you want to be red, you've got to practice being red 24/7 to be the best.

Don't ever fucking compromise. If you cant get it red, dont settle for blue. Thats a losers tactic.

[–]frerri 9 points10 points  (5 children)

No what you lack is social calibration and emotional intelligence (which can be one of the most attractive traits in a man) Women want to connect on a "deeper level". You have to show her that you're socially aware and can be humble and sensetive too.

Walking around with a blindfold and treating everything with a caveman attitude will get you nowhere. And I think redpill should emphesise this more.

[–]Luis_McLovin 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Let me start by saying I understand where you're coming from and I understand your point. Yes, woman want to connect on a deeper level (its how they get a man to want to commit, I do not mean that in a way that men don't want to connect, what I mean is that women want it more), however she has shown she doesnt want to connect.....

She passed him off to someone else. She did this on purpose. She doesn't want to connect with him... She doesnt deem him high enough SMV. If she did, she would not have cockblocked herself!

And by being blue you risk developing emotions for a chick WHO DOES NOT WANT TO FALL FOR YOU! Thats really fucking risky. Thats a one way trip to one-itis.

Dont do that. Be red. Yes, its harder to game effectively and be red. Life isnt easy. Dont cop out. Be red. Be high SMV. Be attractive. Dont play a womans game.

The only reason a man has to be nice is people dont get angry at you and continue extending help towards you.

What you wrote about 60% blue and 40% red.... "being blue" is only effective IF SHE ALREADY DEEMS YOU HIGH ENOUGH SMV. No woman wants to fall in love with a man who she doesnt deem sexy. She has already taken action to prevent this scenario from escalating into her "falling in love" with OP.

My advice: Be red. Be 99% red. Only be 1% blue. Be a man. Dont get her space to manipulate and use you. Practice being red. Manipulate her if you want to. Keep practicing game.

At the VERY MOST, only "pretend" to be blue as a manipulation tactic. Being "true blue" (open and honest about feelings) is a dangerous risk with a flatmate woman who clearly isnt into you... She is going to be further repulsed... She is going to run out of girls to pawn you off with haha!

[–]frerri 2 points3 points  (3 children)

She doesnt deem him high enough SMV. If she did, she would not have cockblocked herself!

Very good.

But as that dynamic is established there's nothing wrong in listening to her and treating her as a female friend. My starting point was that there was no sexual intentions between them what so ever.

"being blue" is only effective IF SHE ALREADY DEEMS YOU HIGH ENOUGH SMV.

True!

[–]Luis_McLovin 5 points6 points  (2 children)

You are advocating being blue to continue getting gifts of pussy.

Being nice. being caring. trying to nudge her to continue bringing pussy to him. becoming friends and as friends do helping each other out, her getting him pussy, him building IKEA furniture for her.

Not my cup of tea.

I am advocating being red to continue getting gifts of pussy.

Dont be nice for the sake of being nice. Be sexy. be masculine. Be charming. Be higher SMV. Be a winner. Don't wait on her to gift you pussy. Get it yourself. Get your needs met on your terms. Game her. Have a party, get her to bring a hot friend of hers. Keep working out at the gym. Keep working hard towards your career. Keep working on your social and emotional wit game and charm. Keep working on raising your status, keep getting more awesome friends. Have an awesome lifestyle. Be such that women trip head over heels for you, such that they do the work for you. Power is great. Why settle for less? Dont settle for less.

You and I both know there is no "correct" and "right" way.

I've said my part. Don't be blue. That's a cop-out. Thats the "easy" way with no proven returns, it relies on the other party to provide them when they want, instead of getting them to want to do it.

Be red.

Take initiative, take charge, upset the status quo, change the dynamic, change to one you are in control, always be in control, have power, do whatever the fuck you want, if anyone gets in your way manipulate them, charm them, crush them into fine dust. Be a sociopath. Theres a reason why a large portion of CEOs and high execs are sociopaths. Sociopaths know how the game is played. People are tools to be used and manipulated against each other. Very few people are worth opening up and being vulnerable to. Family. Wife (NOT FUCK BUDDIES), if you marry. Friends over 5 years in friendship.

"You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist." - Friedrich Nietzsche

[–]frerri 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Carry this mindset if you're doubting your smv. I never had to.

The number 1 problem I EVER have with women is comfort. Im an intimidating guy so if I just turn abit blue girls around me try to get me in to LTR's.

Im giving advice out of my standpoint in life and never thought about the fact that the guy could be on his path to becoming high value.

If just swallowed the pill your thoughts are spot on and this mindset should be carried by everyone who haves doubs.

But man, I dont even care. I do what I want and by trail and error I've noticed what women respond to.

Being nice. being caring. trying to nudge her to continue bringing pussy to him. becoming friends and as friends do helping each other out, her getting him pussy, him building IKEA furniture for her. Not my cup of tea.

A women needs a strong man in her life. That includes someone who acctualy knows how to build IKEA furniture. The look in her eyes while a strong independent man with piercing eyecontact helps her out with something like this says it all.

And the willingness to do so is one of the biggest charictaristics of an alpha. Be a leader of men and women. Take care of the people around you and display high value.

The keypoint is really the attitude that you dont need her but she needs you.

Very few people are worth opening up and being vulnerable to.

Why would a man feel the need to open up to someone? Women have this need, and if she feels that need is met she will feel comfortable around you and your SMV just went up alittle. She might think "Oh this guy isnt for me, but I have 3 friends who might like him." Becaus that is the tone that allready was set the moment she introduced her first friend.

Trying to get the flatmate is another story. Then it comes down to polorising and teasing, man to woman and not compromising AT ALL. If you want the flatmate you should be 100% redpill and dominate her.

But that isnt what was asked.

So I dont know what kind of point you're trying to get through here mate.

[–]Luis_McLovin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, I respect you, you have valid points.

I am recently red, as of the 7th of January. It's a specific date because that was when I nearly killed myself. I'm in a phase of my life constantly looking to raise SMV. I've been hardcore monk mode for 4 months, began making friends and having a social life now. I don't seek to sacrifice my plans to raise SMV for social life however anytime soon. University, Gym, Finance - these come first before mindless fun. Most social gatherings I attend I use covertly in order to ruther raise SMV (status) by always running game, and if possible game women to fuck them (hasnt happened yet). It's important to practice game and as always am always looking to get women to qualify to me, making demands, taking action etc.

You can go about it both ways. It's easier to not game her to get her friends. It's easier to be legit friends with her (an alpha independant man friend, not an emotional tampon). There is no right or wrong way.

I'm in the mindset its more fun to manipulate and tease endlessly.

Not related to OP, related to your comment:

Opening up is not a "need". My statement is that few people are worth opening up to. By this I mean being honest, open, NOT manipulative or decietful. It takes mental willpower to always be gaming. One does not need to game trusted family members and/or close lifelong friends. You choose to "be vulnerable" because you are true and they've gained their trust, therefore you freely share information with them. Information which in the wrong hands would spell disaster to you (read: being vulnerable), no need for political correctness or vague gamey statements with them, for example such as here on TheRedPill, here I freely share information. It's easy with anonymity, there is nothing to be won from manipulating and gaming RedPill members additionally, in fact you can only gain from revealing information as you receive critical feedback and criticism to consider, good friends and family are capable of this, being harsh, and knowing you won't take it personally because you never do, lending you information and/or thoughts you might not have otherwise had.

To build upon what you said, Id add no man should be "blue" until he is high value. Like you said, blue only works when high value as women will actively seek LTRs with you. If you are not high value being blue doesnt do shit. Being red always helps at whatever value however, as it gives you the correct mindset to raise your value. Blue is concerned about feelings (tending to a woman, aka being nice, aka boyfriend material LTR potential) red is about achievments goals money success and sex (being alpha doing what you want on your terms). No man has any business being blue unless he legit wants a long term partner, or is being blue on purpose for the purposes of being manipulative (such as in this potential scenario)

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[–]htbf 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Curious, how old are you ?

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[–]Luis_McLovin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're at the peak of your SMV, I hope you're aware (the mens average, it terms of aesthetic still in healthy young shape, career things are solid now, etc)

Fucking own it. Fucking shag her friend make her cum 3 times make her beg for your cock. Because, trust me, she will tell your flatmate how good the sex was. Your flatmate will see you in a new light. She will want the action. You claim your flatmate is hot. You also claim you aren't trying to get her. Make her come to you. Shag the friend. Play the flatmate afterwards. Do whatever you want. I'd totally fuck them both.

Why the fuck not.

Life is short. Enjoy it.

[–]genjuro_zero 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Don't fuck roommates. I learned this lesson the hard way.

[–]dgillz 1 point2 points  (2 children)

He didn't. Did you read the post?

[–]genjuro_zero 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I did, but I must have misinterpreted the first use of 'gift of pussy' to mean that they'd had sex. It's a colorful phrase, but somewhat vague.

[–]dgillz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She brought her friend over to fuck him after he helped put Ikea furniture together.