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How has red pill influenced your life as a gay man? (self.altTRP)

submitted by plesiosaur16

How has the red pill influenced your life as a gay man in terms of your habits, behavior, and attitudes?

I'm actually relatively new to "red pill" and I'm happy to have found it and some gay men who have attitudes and beliefs more similar to mine. From what I have learned during my initial research, it seems that the "red pill" is debunking the misconceptions and commonly-accepted myths that your family, the media, and society keeps spreading (not that everyone does it maliciously; I do actually think some people just mindlessly go along with it without questioning things). I was curious as to what truths the red pill opened your eyes to.

If I had to answer my own question, I would say:

  • Gay guys often prefer other men with masculine qualities. This includes athletes and boy-next-door types; after all, there is plenty of porn centered around college boys, lumberjacks, and jocks, for example, but very little centered around drag queens. So from what I observed, being androgynous is not really a good thing, and neither is being mistaken for a lesbian. Personal anecdote: four years ago, I had longer, flowing hair. That, coupled with my inability to grow substantial facial hair, caused me to be mistaken for a woman on a number of occasions. So one day, I just decided to buzz it off and keep it that way. The more masculine haircut made my facial features seem more severe and masculine as well. I then started to get more male attention. And maybe it's just me, but I've noticed (through personal experience and observing other people) that having masculine qualities also seems to cause people to take you more seriously.

  • Most gay people (actually, most left-leaning people, for that matter) are clueless about how reality works and believe in crap that they've been fed all their lives. For example, I have heard a number of them say "to just get a college degree; it doesn't matter what it is." I've even had many of them talk about how "addressing toxic masculinity" will solve a number of problems in this world. Perhaps it's due to the part of my job where I review manuscripts that causes me to critically examine a lot of what I'm told. This is what puts me at odds with much of the gay community.

I'm sure I have more, but that's all I could think of for now.


[–]antillus 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think adopting some RP strategies really helps get rid of internalized homophobia....It encourages you to stand up for yourself and not be dependant on others for validation.

[–]Billy405 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I grew up in a pretty liberal household where I was encouraged to go to college "because everyone should" and was raised pretty beta. I was anxious, depressed, and directionless for most of my teens and college years.

I find RP dares to say what is unfortunately true for most circumstances, even if I don't always agree with its political conservatism. I remain pretty liberal, but RP has always helped me resolve the idiocy of the more radical liberals I'm friends with.

It's always satisfying to know I've found the good word of RP.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I also seem to remain pretty liberal, although after red pill, I become more and more aware that the more extreme knee-jerk liberals are not only wrong on a lot of things, but they're often as stupid as their extreme knee-jerk conservative counterparts. Very frequently, I can find fundamental flaws in my liberal friends' arguments and the articles they link to on Facebook (and they're the same very common flaws in logic). Red pill (and maybe my job also?) has led me to question everything I'm told; it's remarkable how people are just willing to believe what they want to hear without thinking about it. I don't always agree with some of the more conservative beliefs from other red pill people either, but they do regularly have good points.

I was also raised pretty "beta" also; I was taught never to make trouble, to be respectful of other people, not to be too pushy or domineering, and (my favorite) to be humble. But doing that would not get me the things that I want; I learned that you have to ask for things to get them. For example, if I wanted a paper or a part of a data analysis done, I would have to be persistent and even annoying to some of my co-authors (even though they often give me the excuse that "they're so busy"); otherwise, many of them would just sit on it indefinitely.

[–]bnhncnyc 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My take of it is that all men are bisexual, and what turns men on is either masculinity, femininty of both. So called "straight guys" don't feel attracted to masculine women or "ftms", but they like trannies in secret (feminine men). So called "gay guys" don't like feminine men, but they more often than not might like ftms (masculine women). It alwaus boils down to performance of masculinity or femininity to us, not sex per se. So we are all just technically bi. I don't believe in heterosexuality and homosexuality anymore at all.

[–]AceofRains 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems to me that a lot of gay guys are just following their porn fetishes. I quit porn, but I'm so turned off I don't even want to try to hit on guys right now. I'm sad, because I'm not sure if I'm gay just because I lacked a father figure and fapped to gay porn In my teenage years. I mean I always thought guys were cute, and when I started porn I was alway more interested in the guys. I don't want to love men because I programed my self on it by porn, I want to love men because I feel like that is who I really am. Tits and pussy never really did it for me in the first place. I've tried to watch straight porn just to see. I tried getting aroused at women, but it's just not fulfilling to me the same way. My eyes still just catch the handsome men I see in public, and TRP gives me that much more reason not to associate with women (or children for that matter). Though some guys might say not to come out of the closet, I did it. I did it to command respect- and it worked. Some people say it's not a brave thing, but if you've got fuckers like ISIS trying to eradicate us, I'd say it's pretty brave to be a man and say you love men. I think I love men so much that I actually give a damn about the issues that are harming masculinity, unlike our feminist counterparts. As an unexpected side effect, I now have powerful objective insight to topics that common liberals disagree with. I can't be refuted because the insight to being gay can't be argued against by straight people advocating gay issues. Right now I feel like I'm experiencing cognitive dissonance in being gay. Even though the benefits are pretty awesome, I'm so confused as to if this is my true self or just a porn fetish like all these other men seem to be enacting. Some of the comments here make me feel like it's still okay. People asked me if I was gay before I even realized it. I met a lesbian girl who, without taking any hormones or anything stopped producing estrogen and started pumping out testosterone. I think that some people really are born and grown the way they are meant to be. I really just want to be done with this phase of self doubt. All I have left now is monk mode. I can not know who I really am if I don't shove all the trash to the side, buckle down, and get my self right body, mind, and soul.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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