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[–]pm_me_tangibles 167 points168 points  (46 children)

We should ban censorship. The irony is that the exact mentality behind this banwave - not too many years ago - would have prevented feminism, civil rights, LGBT etc.

Shame on them. There can be no progress without dialogue, criticism and engaging with views you dislike.

[–]I_ysk 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Shame on them. There can be no progress without dialogue, criticism and engaging with views you dislike.

Absolutely. Here's a good watch on that topic:

Brendan O'Neill's speech at Oxford about the right to offend.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If we were to have a dialogue everyone would become right wing and they know can't have that so they'll call us hateful, racist, and Nazis. But I feel like it's all ready too late.

[–]TheRealBabyCave -37 points-36 points  (40 children)

Let's stop pretending that someone who genuinely believes in ethnic cleansing needs to be engaged through discourse.

We fought a war against certain ideas. Not all ideas are equal. Calling certain dangerous and toxic beliefs "views you don't like" is the intellectual equivalent of calling Cyanide a "flavor you don't like."

Your high horse is down in a ravine.

Edit:

A lot of repeat questions missing the point of my comment, either purposefully or not.

My comment was not singling out a user or claiming someone is pushing violence.

My comment is only that the notion that ideas can or should only be combatted through discourse is heavily flawed thinking. There are numerous beliefs and ideas that are impervious to discourse, or shout or act over discourse rendering it moot.

Ethnic cleansing was an example of one such belief I provided, but I was not claiming someone was pushing ethnic cleansing. I was only pointing out that it's of little use trying to explain to someone that your life holds value when they're in the middle of trying to kill you.

If you'd like a less extreme example, try explaining to someone intent on robbing your home that they should reconsider. Some ideas, typically those which come along with violent or hateful acts, can be immune to discourse, especially when the person who holds the belief employs a defense mechanism of calling all information, be they facts or opinions, that contest his/her ideas fake news.

[–]BuddhistSC 18 points19 points  (2 children)

You're using the very popular but very ineffective strategy of labeling everyone who disagrees with you a "Nazi".

It works on people who already want to hate and disregard all contrary viewpoints, but anyone with a shred of objectivity won't buy it.

[–]TheRealBabyCave -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I'm not labelling anyone a Nazi.

I'm pointing out that discourse doesn't work against certain ideas, and used ethnic cleansing as an example.

[–]grandmasbroach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ethnic cleansing... Like, how the nazis did?

[–]MAGAsquad 19 points20 points  (5 children)

What exactly are you talking about?

[–]TheRealBabyCave -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

Not all progress comes from dialogue and allowing people a platform to spread their sickness.

People are easily manipulated and controlled. When people with evil motives or lust for power find ways to warp the truth and push lies into the public psyche for their own betterment or to enslave or harm others, that kind of movement cannot always be stopped with "dialogue," especially when a vast majority of the believers have been indoctrinated into calling everything, even facts, that don't align with their beliefs "fake news."

When you rile up a base of people who begin harassing and sending death threats to others, there is no time to try and battle it with dialogue.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People are easily manipulated and controlled.

Unless you're not a person this may as well happens to you but you're not aware of it.

[–]WeAreWatchingAPlay 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Not all progress comes from dialogue and allowing people a platform to spread their sickness.

Your kind pushes the degenerate filth and platform to everything from child abusers to cannibals to pedophiles to people so insane they don't believe in gender and say it's in the name of "understanding" and "love". You are disgusting beyond belief.

[–]TheRealBabyCave -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Uhh..

I definitely do not condone pedophilia, child abuse, or cannibalism.

Have you heard of Roy Moore?

[–]WeAreWatchingAPlay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I replied to the wrong thread

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 11 points12 points  (19 children)

Be specific. Is there someone advocating violence? Because if there is, I'm going to ban them.

Time limit here. I'm not a huge fan of hyperbole and platitudes.

(Inside protip: Jews are significantly over-represented in the TRP EC and mod staff.)

[–]TheRealBabyCave 1 point2 points  (18 children)

My comment was not about a single user.

My comment was about the flawed conception that all ideas are equal, and I used ethnic cleansing as an example.

Not all ideas, especially violent ones, can be combatted through dialogue alone. That is the point.

[–]Galbert123 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'm surprised so many people here are missing your point. Not all ideas should be given a platform, such as pro ethnic cleansing. I get what youre saying.

However, I would argue that its a slippery slope once you start limiting discussion based on an "obviously bad idea" criteria. If theyre just talking, let the stupid arguement fail on its own merit. If the idea turns to acting violently, then yes, its time to act as well.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it's like "not all ideas deserve a platform to be talked about" but then who decides which ideas deserve a platform? Him? Me? The Reddit CEO?

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 2 points3 points  (15 children)

It's not like people walk around with signs pinned to them that say things like "I Gas Jews," "Humans Are Tasty" or "Children Give The Best Handjobs." Evil must be allowed to expose itself so it can be managed.

Specific acts of violence are actionable. They will always be immediately removed and the user sanctioned.

As a reminder to everyone, this is The Red Pill. We are not a venue to talk about everything. Anything that is not on topic will be censored. That doesn't mean that speech should be censored everywthere.

[–]TheRealBabyCave 1 point2 points  (14 children)

Anything that is not on topic will be censored. That doesn't mean that speech should be censored everywthere.

The juxtaposition in these statements is astounding:

"Anything we decide is not relevant to a discussion will be censored."

"Stop silencing us, even though we silence whatever we like."

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Need some more straw there?

You know who silences my speech here? Me. I don't talk about things that are off topic. I'm not going to kick in the doors to other subs and tell them to stop their speech because it doesn't follow the rules of TRP.

Yet it would appear plenty of people have no problem behaving like that.

[–]TheRealBabyCave 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Need some more straw there?

Your initial response to my original comment was clearly a strawman because you tried to distract from my initial point by inserting your own meaning into my comment, but you're going to suggest I'm employing strawman by pointing out the hypocrisy in your statements.

Cool. Glad I visited this sub.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You're in a forum that has a topic.

Without moderation, there is no topic.

You are conflating our removal of off-topic items from a topic-based forum with the idea that some topics don't deserve forums.

It's disingenuous.

[–]TheRealBabyCave 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Disingenuity would be suggesting that all ideas should be free to be pushed and given a platform and complaining about a subreddit being banned, while simultaneously censoring ideas based on whatever convenient, subjective line of "relevancy" one decides the drafting of from one moment to the next.

The notion that censored comments are removed due to "relevancy" is a very obvious thin veil.

[–]modTheRedPike 1 point2 points  (6 children)

tried to distract from my initial point by inserting your own meaning

Weasel words.

Specifically what meaning was I inserting? My original comment was trying to find out what banned behavior was occurring that needed to be removed. That's my job. I couldn't quite get that from your vague and platitude filled comment.

[–]TheRealBabyCave 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Weasel words

Nah, perfect English. Cut the insults, you're a mod. Behave like one.

My original comment was trying to find out what banned behavior was occurring that needed to be removed

Yep, you:

tried to distract from my initial point by inserting your own meaning the notion that I was calling out banned behavior.

I couldn't quite get that from your vague and platitude filled comment.

My comment was neither vague nor platitudinous. I expressed very clearly that not all bad actors can be stopped through discourse, and allowing them a platform is not always a good idea, using genocide as an example of one of those ideas that could not be stopped through discourse alone.

Are we done here, or?

[–]AlmightyPerun 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ironically, you're the one on a high horse lol. It's interesting to see people so blissfully unaware of what they're saying. The side that lost wasn't wrong, it simply lost. The loser is always wrong, regardless of any ideas.

Maybe you should research the topic a bit deeper than your average highschool textbook. You might be surprised at what you can find. How could you possibly know what's wrong and what's right if you have little to no knowledge of the topic?

Besides, Marxism and its spawns have done far worse things than those certain ideas you seem to be speaking off, yet i wouldn't be surprised at all if they included Marxism as elementary and highschool curriculum within the next couple of years. Sure, i might be exaggerating slightly, but you get the point.

In the end, all political ideologies, when taken to the extreme, end up being totalitarian and all kinds of fucked up. All of them are cyanide, and none of them are cyanide. There is no black and white.

[–]PmWhatUWantOutOfLife 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How else will you ever get them to broaden their view?

Relevant video https://youtu.be/ORp3q1Oaezw

It is only through discourse that we can obtain understanding.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Where the fuck did you read the red pill is about ethnic cleansing?

[–]poohead3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So the elite jews and politicians who are ethnically cleansing white countries shouldn't be argued with, and we ought to stop them with force? Sounds good to me.

[–]RightWingDeathChad 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Who is even talking about ethnic cleansing?

[–]WeAreWatchingAPlay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you bring up that South Africa is being ethnically cleansed, people ignore you. If you take note of patterns that are happening to "white" countries and call out that a literal invasion is occurring they call your racist. They are trying to end the white race and they think we need to encourage and push for this. It makes me sick. We don't advocate for ANY races to be cleansed - but by saying your race is in danger you're somehow the one advocating for it??

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you'd like a less extreme example, try explaining to someone intent on robbing your home that they should reconsider. Some ideas, typically those which come along with violent or hateful acts

So you're saying that all I need to do is correlate hateful action with the person who poses an argument or claim in order to render all discussions with that person or group as futile and unworthy of consideration? Then the problem becomes "who decides what is hateful"? The person who gets offended? And who decides what is "hateful enough to not deserve debate"?

Is your horse so fucking high or are you high?

[–]pm_me_tangibles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

uh, the vast majority of the left are just ignorant of the inevitable end-result of their ideology. by invoking ethnic cleansing you are using the exception to the rule to prove the rule.

[–]theherosmyth 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What you’re saying works in theory, but in reality we’d end up right back in the spot we find ourselves now. Not providing certain ideas a platform to be discussed sounds fair. If you want to talk about ethnically cleansing your country, maybe you shouldn’t get to speak.

The problem is who gets to decide what topics are, or are not permitted to be discussed. Having the ability to not allow certain ideas a platform to be discussed is a powerful mechanism that will want to deploy for their own subjective notion of what is or isn’t good.

Surely, we can all agree about certain topics that should be off limits, but soon enough we find ourselves on a slippery slope. Should people be allowed to discuss differences in intelligence between certain ethnic groups? Or about temperamental differences between the sexes? Or whether or not we should eat meat? For each topic, there’ll be people who think those ideas are so preposterous that they should not be allowed to be discussed.

Look at this sub. What do we talk about here? The truth about intersexual dynamics, informed by evolutionary psychology and biology. I’m sure that doesn’t fully cover the scope of what this sub is about, but it’s besides the point. The fact of the matter is that these ideas, based on reality, can’t be discussed openly without people wanting to shut it down.

The issue is about risk management. There are risks that come with letting such ideas be discussed. But there is also risks associated with disallowing certain topics to be discussed. At least if people are allowed to advocate stupid ideas in the open, these ideas can be refuted. Disallowing the discussion doesn’t make it go away. It just goes into hiding.

[–]TheRealBabyCave 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Surely, we can all agree about certain topics that should be off limits, but soon enough we find ourselves on a slippery slope.

That's intellectually dishonest. There's very distinct line between mentioning the Holocaust in passing to someone or making an offer on color joke and actually passing out material on why we should be starting another one.

We can teach about the history of an idea and educate people on the dangers of an idea without allowing people a platform to actually push that idea. That is not an idea that deserves a platform to be shouted from, in fact, it's expressly dangerous to society.

What I'm talking about here is already in effect. People get arrested for all sorts of things that they say in public. Disorderly Conduct , Disturbing the Peace, even Conspiracy to Commit a Crime. I'm not saying anything new. I'm just telling it like it already is.

[–]theherosmyth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you missed my point. I agree with you on paper, and it strikes me as very common sense which topics shouldn’t be allowed to be discussed (from one’s subjective point of view).

What I was getting at is the fact that we share the planet with people that legitimately think not buying their radically progressive crap makes you worse than Hitler, looking at a woman for a second too long is equal to raping her, and saying or doing anything for the betterment of men makes you a patriarchal misogynist devil.

What I’m asking is, what if those people get to decide what is and isn’t appropriate discussion material? Do you trust them to not abuse that power? The fact that people want to ban this sub perfectly illustrates my concern when regarding what some think should be censored.

[–]ChummerLicious -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, not exactly. Shame on these subs for fomenting hate so agressively.

[–]RandomReeditUser 269 points270 points  (18 children)

I mean, they're literally brigading

[–]mcavvacm 233 points234 points  (17 children)

SJW types are literally some of the most hypocritical people I've ever seen. They'll never even acknowledge it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It helps when the admins are as SJW-infected as the rest of the trolls.

[–]DareyFathom 42 points43 points  (14 children)

Libtards are political terrorists.

[–]longduckdongger 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Uses the term libtards lol

[–]radixaf 29 points30 points  (10 children)

The solution to false group think isnt more group think like this

[–]1Ill_mumble_that 4 points5 points  (4 children)

The solution is a catapult and a wall to keep them from coming back.

[–]Phaeer 1 points1 points [recovered]

Now you are doing the exact same thing as them. We need to be tolerant to the tolerant AND the intolerant. That's the whole point of protesting this BanOut.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Tolerance of marxist ideologies is what allowed them to destroy essentially every great Western civilization in history.

[–]Phaeer 1 points1 points [recovered]

Or have western civilization just failed at raising their youth to carry on their success? Censoring people because of a difference of opinion is not the answer regardless.

[–]Feliponius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Western civilizations have allowed subversive ideas to gain access to their facilities of education at every level. From preschool straight to college, where it’s hold is strongest.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Thats not group think, its common sense think. Everyone can see that the ideas that stems from the left are contradictory, eg. tolerance for islam yet being the ones who advocate the hardest for homosexual rights etc.

[–]radixaf 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Yes it is. That’s the kind of stuff i see on the r/the donald or r/politics...humans are hypocritical its not exclusive to any ideology

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

So you have, per default, to go against everyone? Seems like an extreme impossible form of contrarianism.

[–]radixaf -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

This type of political post isnt what trp is about.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your post is political.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The protocols of the elders of zion goes full libtard, thats why all this is happening

[–]DareyFathom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's happening because we don't have any real problems in the west and people lose perspective. Particularly overly emotional people that likely wouldn't be voting in large enough numbers to make a difference if proper barriers to voting were established.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because they're "in the rightTM "

[–]caunteris2 154 points155 points  (18 children)

Id say we are fukt, if they find that post about tennis.

The reddit ceo is her husband I mean

[–]SKRedPill 31 points32 points  (14 children)

Shall we take it down then? No I wrote that post, and I didn't realize it then. What do the mods think?

[–]Drunk__Doctor 1 points1 points [recovered]

Keep the post up. Never be ashamed of the truth even if it gets us banned. We can find a new home elsewhere if need be.

[–]orangemars2000 19 points20 points  (1 child)

This entirely. Can't say I agree with everything that gets posted here, but that's no reason to ban a subreddit. Moreover, there are a lot of extremely salient issues that aren't discussed anywhere else.

There's no effective difference between this sub being banned and allowing it to be neutered by censure. I hope it stays up.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Law 22: Use the surrender tactic: Transform weakness into power.

When you are weak, never fight for honor’s sake; instead choose surrender instead. Surrender gives you time to recover, time to wait for his power to wane. Do not give him the satisfaction of fighting and defeating you-surrender first. By turning the other cheek, you infuriate and unsettle him. Make surrender a tool of power.

[–]SKRedPill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TL:DR - Grow a rationalization hamster. That law right there, sums up everything.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Fuck that. Thats what they want.

[–]caunteris2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well Apparently they cannot ban the site, so they just get shittons of people leaving their application/site just because they decided to ban a community. Fuwken mongols :v

[–]wanderer779 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the funny thing is that once the left drives off the right, they will follow them wherever they go (4chan for example). They can't stand people having a conversation that goes off their script. They want you to submit and learn to love big brother.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nah.

[–]Firebluered 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just read it, and now I'm laughing about the whole situation.

[–]Serious_Tour 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could you explain what the following post means?

http://archive.is/iF2ro

I just woke up and don't understand what's honestly going on.

[–]GoldenCocaine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shall we take it down then? No I wrote that post, and I didn't realize it then. What do the mods think?

I honestly would recommend removing it. Losing this growing community over one post is not worth it. Seriously. Being stubborn here isn't the right move

[–]warthundersfw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Which one

[–]MaximiliionPegasus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I just read that because of you, and now I'm laughing at the whole situation.

[–]caunteris2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quite funny considering two of the mentioned subs in banout2018 were deleted for that.

[–]Fulp_Piction 262 points263 points  (35 children)

Surely this is a thought exercise more than anything. I couldn't give a fuck about the rest of reddit as long as they stop trying to illegitimately shut down legitimate discourse.

[–]uebermacht 60 points61 points  (1 child)

Sign the petition then brother!

[–]Fulp_Piction 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Already done!

[–]throwaway46819 1 points1 points [recovered]

It isn't, they've already managed to ban the vast majority of subreddits that they wanted to. Including quite a few subreddits that clearly had no hate in them, other than thinking Trump was actually not going to fuck over the world.

I personally really don't like Trump, and I think he has screwed up a lot in many ways. However, just like I'm allowed to think and express that I don't like Trump, people should be allowed to think and express that they do like Trump.

(That being said, I also don't think Trump is the antichrist either. He's not a good president, but that could be said about virtually any of them)

[–]Mescalean 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Sounds like someone runs off logic and not emotion.... they dont like that /:

[–]supremesamurai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, sounds like most of the pussies running this site and other large tech companies.

[–]simple_beauty 16 points17 points  (7 children)

I personally think there is a game being played by the world's most powerful to keep humanity's collective mind in a fear-state. So they are systematically shutting down any form of group conversation that doesn't invoke fear or terror in the subjects. 9/11, I think, was controlled and was done as a means of causing mass-trauma in our country/world. When you are traumatized, you can be programmed, basically, because of the fear that consumes the mind. When we are afraid, we make our worst decisions and consume more than we need. We distort reality when we are afraid, and we continue handing power over to those who act confident and those who tell us what is happening.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah they’re the reddit admins

[–]simple_beauty 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I guess they’re some of ‘them’.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think, was controlled and was done as a means of causing mass-trauma in our country/world. When you are traumatized, you can be programmed, basically, because of the fear that consumes the mind. When we are afraid, we make our worst decisions and consume more than we need. We distort reality when we are afraid, and we continue handing power over to those who act confident and those who tell us what is happening.

truer words could not be spoken bro.

[–]simple_beauty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An unfortunate truth, my dude.

[–]WeAreWatchingAPlay 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This is the truth. They want a single track narrative for EVERYTHING - they do NOT want discourse. They want us fearful and divided, as we're weak and controllable in that state. They want sheep that listen to authority and never question it. Someone has a lab coat on? Trust every single word that leaves their mouth. They - and I hope you know who I'm talking about - are really ramping it up and it's getting insane.

[–]simple_beauty 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Who would you say ‘they’ are? Just curious of your perspective.

[–]WeAreWatchingAPlay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those in power and control. It's easy enough to find. It is a very small group population-wise but hold the top 1% of powerful positions across all industries - especially finance.

[–]Fulp_Piction 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Jesus, we're not seriously getting into a 'not if I ban you first' scenario. This is just a way to hold a mirror up to the admins to show how hypocritical it would be to decide to follow through with the ban. Good tactic.

We have backup forums anyway. The information is what's important, not the medium. Fuck Reddit.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 36 points37 points  (2 children)

There's a zero percent chance we're getting anybody banned.

There's a much higher percent chance we can stir the shit pot. It's how we get most of our members.

[–]jordanbadland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yo by the way why can't I subscribe to that subreddit?? I keep clicking but nothing's happening

[–]bluesnsouls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hell, thats how i got here, thank you random shit poster on my /r/RelationshipAdvice post

[–]ChummerLicious -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

You know this isn't the town square, right? The owners of this site are free to choose what discourse they want published on thier site. Surely as a red blooded American you understand that?

[–]Fulp_Piction 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Yep, absolutely, I'm all for a free market and control over what you own. As long as they can say 'hey we're stopping you guys discussing shit because we just don't like it, and would rather exist in our own bubble'. Fair enough.

I can only speak for myself and say the sidebar, the EC's and big writers in the manosphere generally hit the nail on the head. There are definitely people who don't like the message, and don't have to, free country etc. but for a lot of the people subbed here it's a net positive. It's just harsh truth. Yeah people take it too seriously, troll the page or give shitty advice when they're bitter - then get cherrypicked to support a narrative of 'neckbeard rapists hurr durr' but thats a weak and surface deep argument. TRP, with critical thinking and common sense, is way more beneficial to practically everyone than the bullshit alternatives. But who cares, give the hard left a haven and reap in the ad revenue.

If you want to explore and understand what happens when you protect people from harsh truth check out 1984, or Huxley's Brave New World. Huxley's in particular does a better job of explaining the point I'm trying to make than I can.

I know I went off on one there, but I think it's a good point so I'll leave it in.

Not american btw.

[–]ChummerLicious -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

I see someone just finished freshman English. BNW and 1984, really?

[–]Fulp_Piction 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The books are easily accessible, ergo they don't make valid points. Lol.

Grace us with your complex philosophical genius then, Homer.

[–]ChummerLicious -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Nah just seemed like a pretty low effort way to make yourself sound smart by spouting off well known dystopian fiction. Made me chuckle. As for TRP stuff, I'm of the opinion this sub is trash.

[–]Fulp_Piction 1 point2 points  (1 child)

[–]ChummerLicious -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks, but I'll still be keeping the opinion that TRP is mysoginistic trash.

[–]chad9k -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

I’m all for free speech but weren’t they banned for brigading and targeting different people? Surely if that’s what they’re promoting, that’s reasonable grounds for being banned?

[–]Typ_calTr_cks 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was there. Shit never happened.

[–]WorldController -47 points-46 points  (6 children)

Alt-right, quasi-fascist bullshit is not legitimate discourse.🙄

[–]Fulp_Piction 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Oh no, here come the radical left, quasi-faacist bullshitters haha

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Wants to ban free speech. Screeches about fascists.

Pick one.

[–]humanoid12345 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You are the problem.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All speech is legitimate discourse (outside of violent threats). Just like you're legitimately reading this voluntarily. If it was all nonsense and untrue, you would simply ignore it and call it the ravings of a crazy person.

No, you want to ban it because what is said here is truth, and it bothers you. The truth bothers you so much that you can't stand it. You hate us here, yet you can't stop thinking about us.

The flat earth theory is complete and total bullshit, but people talk about it all day. You don't care, because they are lunatics. We aren't, and you know it. That is why you want to censor us instead of someone else.

[–]BangkokPadang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Impolite difficult speech is what must be protected.

Your qualifier that any given political affiliation’s speech isn’t really speech is itself anti free-speech.

[–]tc80291 91 points92 points  (11 children)

A redpill forum on a standalone site wouldn’t be a bad thing imo.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 108 points109 points  (3 children)

Your wish is my command. https://www.forums.red/

[–]FullOfShiznit 57 points58 points  (0 children)

... with automatic reddit TheRedPill sub synchronisation

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

You know, If you make a post on TRP we could all just migrate and fund an off reddit forum with user accounts comments ect, the whole jam

I'd donate!

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We have done exactly that! We made https://www.trp.red for offsite meeting (open now), and https://www.forums.red as an archive and future forum which will be opened if we ever leave here.

Donations are always welcome!

[–]platoonpluto[🍰] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I think this is the answer, ideally hosted in Russia with a proxy domain service to prevent take downs should it ever come to that. The only other option would be TOR but that would make it a lot harder to interact.

[–]Darkone06 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Russia?

Out of all the countries with more liberal internet laws you choose Russia?

Sweden and the pirate party would probably be a way safer bet.

[–]platoonpluto[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was taking the view of where would TRP views be least likely to be purged/banned. Couldn’t see Russia banning TRP, could definitely see Sweden doing so.

[–]Phaeer 1 points1 points [recovered]

Sweden must be one of the worst countries in this regard. They are a whole country full of SJW's, minus the 17% who just voted SD.

[–]Darkone06 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

The pirate party takes internet freedom seriously. They haven't been able to take down the pirate Bay I think they could do more to help than Russia who would use this information for political gain.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m assuming we’ll cross that bridge when we get there.

[–][deleted] 160 points161 points  (1 child)

Signed.. I was born in Iraq during Saddam’s era and I know the thought police when I see them and those guys fit the description perfectly. Intolerant and refuse to listen and will guide your thought process towards their goal and would through people in jail and cut their tongues if you tell a joke about Saddam or his regime .I survived those guys and I refuse to be silenced by some keyboard warrior who judges me from behind the monitor because their safe space was invaded by “unsafe” thoughts that didnt fit their feeble and rose colored reality.

[–]hash_bang22 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well said.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Lmao who gilded this

[–]Galbert123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The irony haha

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 46 points47 points  (28 children)

As always when these things happen, it's useful to remind oneself of the fact that this is not the direct result of the SJWs pushing for it or some higher thinking proces based on morals, but ultimately purely based on the distinct hope for profit:

https://archive.is/EVE0G

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (26 children)

Feminism is the logical progression of capitalism. Double the workers, double the tax base, lower the wages, etc. Not surprising at all

[–]chogbonna 2 points3 points  (16 children)

I don't understand the correlation here..

[–]The_RedWolf 19 points20 points  (13 children)

The quick and dirty meaning is that when both parents are working you can charge double for rent, you’ll buy double the things etc. and that becomes the new normal

[–]EqualResponsibility 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Except this happened as a direct result of World War II. Not feminism. Feminism is cancer. Not Capitalism.

[–]Darkone06 9 points10 points  (10 children)

It happen cause of capitalism, if I can find someone cheaper to exploit why wouldn't I.

[–]EqualResponsibility -1 points0 points  (9 children)

Who’s cheaper? Men and women are paid the same

[–]Darkone06 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Yeah there paid the same, half of what a men used to make.

It's a rat race to the bottom.

[–]EqualResponsibility -5 points-4 points  (6 children)

I’m not sure what that means. People are doing better then they ever have. Look at what even the poorest of people have now.

What is happening is that women are taking jobs and then quitting their career at 35 to have kids. A career that someone else could of had and continued. But to each their own.

[–]Darkone06 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Half of Americans can't afford basic necessities and are one pay check away from being homeless.

Almost a quarter of students in America live in a household below the poverty line.

Things aren't good for the average American. Wages have been stagnant for the last twenty years while all cost of living has increased.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/50-million-american-households-cant-afford-basic-living-expenses-2018-05-18

[–]BrackOBoyO 5 points6 points  (0 children)

if you double the labour pool without doubling the available jobs, average wages will tend towards 50%.

When working class women entered the workforce, they effectively gave their husband's boss a lot more power over them both and therefore over the entire fabric of that part of society.

[–]MarinTaranu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The idea is that if you have a larger labor pool, you can drive down wages, the chance that you will find a hungrier potential employee than your current one is higher.

[–]The_RedWolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not denying just trying to explain his possible thoughts

[–]humanoid12345 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Really? He basically explains it in the comment.

[–]2wiseclockcounter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Aaron Russo talking about the intent behind feminism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCpjmvaIgNA

[–]wrekd 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Feminism is cultural Marxism. So not really a progression of capitalism. It pushes for equality of outcome not opportunity.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Feminism is funded by the establishment elites. The same elites that Marxists want to behead.

[–]wrekd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's funded by a few zealots but mostly beta people that would rather pay them to go away than cause them any issues by taking a stand. Whether it's burning Nike on the right, or boycotting Chick-fil-A on the left, if you piss off your base it will cost you. It's a PC extortion tax.

[–]Akslepios 1 points1 points [recovered]

If only conservative Americans understood that. Check MGTOW and people think feminism is socialism and they blame all blame Marx for it. WTF?

[–]lingonn 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Feminist ideas are not socialist, but radical feminism and radical left ideas have a strong correlation.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't mix radical feminists with liberal feminists. Radical feminists are not inherently liberal. For example, radfems are heavy against trans, pedophilia, porn and prostitution which are all (except pedo?) virtually accepted and promoted by libfems.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Feminism is endorsed and funded by big business. The same bourgeois elites that Marxists literally want to behead.

[–]wrekd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because women spend more money. They don't care about the cause. They care about who spends. Just see the NFL and pink shoes. It's fucking marketing to those who spend more.

[–]AlexDr0ps 47 points48 points  (5 children)

It is truly mindblowing how people are not only okay with, but actually encourage reddit silencing opposing viewpoints.

Like I'm sure most people here disagree with leftist ideals but I can not fathom the amount of brainwashing it takes to be so set-in-stone with your beliefs you refuse to even have others discuss alternatives in the same domain. It is so blatantly obvious that they fear us and what could become if enough men realized what is going on

[–]WanderingTaurus 1 points1 points [recovered]

Some people have a huge problem expanding their mind and actually learning. They rather be stuck in their hive mind like mentality and just repeat what has been force fed to them rather than actually taking time to look in to what they have been told and see if it all really is true.

[–]heysoos666 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you should ask yourself where the brainwashing starts. understanding the source and attacking it (boycotting) is the most effective way to handle it

[–]Luckyluke23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

its why the alt left if doomed to fail man

[–]haroldpeters 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not ok with it. I think its disgraceful. TBH we have needed more sites with freespeech as their main tenant for a while.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Fuck that sub. I thought subs that facilitate brigading was against Reddit's Terms of Service, hmm???

BRB, going to set up my own sub to target users to report threads and subs to the admins I think should be banned. I only have about 8 million users at my disposal between all the subs I admin across my various accounts.

[–]spartan1337 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I just hope all the stuff here especially the sidebar stuff is backed up

[–]ShotgunTRP 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I’m confused and don’t understand that sub and it’s political double speak

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I'm afraid we actually can't tolerate that. It's rule 2.

[–]CrackingYs 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Reddit is fucked, folks. A petition is pointless. You don't negotiate with actual book burning fucking Nazis who are taking away your ability to have a discussion.

Thats so stupid. It's like as dumb as Jews asking the Nazis to have the temperature of their furnace turned down a little bit it.

Reddit is fucked. And it is time to abandon ship.

[–]StrongerFasterBigger -1 points0 points  (1 child)

And go where?

[–]anonylaw2 6 points7 points  (1 child)

How many times has a petition actually worked for this side of the internet? I just see petitions left and right with no results. Isn't there more that can be done?

[–]funkysoulsearcher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep the best thing everyone can is leave.

[–]1RPAlternate42 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And then any name that signs it is shadow banned instantly.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This recent purge is a fucking disgrace. Anything not in lock-step with social justice and feminist-inclined progressivism is getting banned. No room for dissenting discussion means Reddit can fuck right off.

[–]uebermacht 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This event is interesting:

Admins and mods from various subreddits already reacted to this BanOut.
If you want to visit the subreddit „ValueSelect“ for example, you will find a message with "Not a hate sub. Leave us alone.". The whole sub has been set on private due to this events.

A lot of subs on the "Phase" list are private due to this.

If you haven't read, pretty interesting thread here: https://archive.fo/ywbcm

Either it's a gigantic bluff or they really are successful with banning subs.

Edit:
It seems like the reddit admins are using the BanOut as scapegoat for banning subs.
Proof here: https://archive.fo/MAV4N

[–]Jailhouseredpilled93 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As far as I'm concerned TRP is Reddit. It always has been for me.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children)

The redpill community wont really be affected if theredpill gets banned, right? I'm sure there is enough support for a standalone site

[–]ahackercalled4chan 13 points14 points  (1 child)

trp.red

[–]funkysoulsearcher 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just a warning for users browsing at work - some webfilters class this site as pornography for some reason

[–]haroldpeters 1 point2 points  (1 child)

/r/Greatawakening just got banned 11 hours ago.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont even know what that is

[–]ToaKarn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think we all know where this is going. There's no winning against Reddit, even if we were to assume the rest of the site didn't hate us.

Godspeed, my brothers.

[–]Slex459 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The admins won't care about a petition. This banning is about winning the midterm elections. There is too much money and power involved.

[–]YoungManHHF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

whats the point of these "midterm elections"? not from U.S.

also in what way reddit ban affects it?

[–]SendPaintingOfSquid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To think they guy who created the ban out gave me Gold twice from his kindness

[–]TRPmc117 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let them ban TRP. Do we really want to be increasing unique visitors (and in turn, revenue) for a tyrannical site like reddit? Maybe it's time TRP finds its own permanent home.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

where to sign ?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just make a new thread in /r/banbanouts

[–]WhiteGhosts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

politics ruined reddit.

[–]timtom6 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Can they actually do that and why would they anyhow. What happend to freedom of speech.

[–]Darkone06 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The government is not prosecuting you. Freedom of speech only applies to freedom from government prosecution. A private business can kick you out for any reason. This is a private business.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is the thing. Really, Reddit can do whatever the fuck it wants.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That isn't how freedom of speech works, I'm afraid.

[–]thisdyyd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wth. They also have subs like r/the_donald and r/leagueoflegends in the same phase 4 ban list. Can they really do it? This seems insane. Banning people and subs, even game related forums, just because it is not pleasing them. Is this what the Reddit has become? If this thing goes through I'm done and moving to other platform.

Wtf. Seriously. What has happened??

[–]--____notfunny____-- 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There was a backup wasn't there ? (Apart from trp.red), if correct, please share the link.

[–]soonerguy9782 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Forums.red

The forums for trp.red

[–]Keyann 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So let me get this straight, we're protesting Reddit banning communities because that's a violation of free speech?

[–]kangindanorf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've never posted in here but I'm subscribed and have been reading on and off for a year..lately I've been really putting work into taking the pill all the way to my core ..if this subreddit gets banned I thank y'all guys for help in guidance of men and will miss the banter from my fellow brothers ..just thought I would say thank y'al

[–]Rian_Stone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

deleted What is this?

[–]Meeseeksyourtits 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know what they think a ban will do. It’s not like the men on this sub will somehow stop being insufferable cocks. They’ll just move on elsewhere and continue to be a scab on the dating world for all the poor singles out there. Lol.

[–]ahackercalled4chan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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[–]TheRealMewt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Here here

[–]Lionlocker 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Just one hour ago, they have banned the subs that contained all the information needed to make the sheep understand exactly how and who is deceiving and controlling everyone.

They Banned a peaceful community dedicated to research and support of anti-corruption.

Mathematical probability states that the coincidences regarding the seventeenth letter of the alphabet are EXTREMELY IMPROBABLE to be just coincidences.

They are coming for this place next, and they will succeed.

Are you surrendering now? Enjoy the decline in a bluepill world?

Find MEANING now and join forces with the ones that are being banned. Have FAITH that other people are willing to stand up. This is IT. This is the final backlash they receive with their ill-advised censorship.

THE WORLD IS WATCHING.

[–]7a7p 1 points1 points [recovered]

The fuck are you talking about?

[–]Lionlocker -5 points-4 points  (6 children)

The purporters of the blue pill society or in the crosshairs of POTUS. He talks to us via drops on the chans. Reddit admins banned the best place for blue pills to become red pilled on all of it. See for yourself if you have the mental capacity.

[–]7a7p 1 points1 points [recovered]

The fuck are you talking about?

[–]eyewant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is talking about some mysterious Q guy. A basement dwelling conspiracist.

[–]Darkone06 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I too want to know what the fuck this whole thread but specially this guy is talking about.

[–]carpenterio -1 points0 points  (1 child)

He is a trump supporter and thinks Trump is actually smart but hides it. It’s the Q conspiracy. It’s the dumbing down of America.

[–]Chit-Chad 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I've been living under a rock, can someone provide a link or short explanation of what's happening and why does it sound like TRP is going to be banned from Reddit?????

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

If you just search banouts2018 on reddit you'll figure it out, but I'll give you a layman's tldr.

Very sensitive people (I think reddit admins/mods as well) have decided to group up and ban, or rather try and ban, any subreddit that goes against their opinions. Not only subreddits but also certain users associated with the subs. Now whether users got permabanned or "shadowbanned" is unclear to me, and that's pretty much it. It's the most sjw thing reddit has done yet imo

[–]SgtBrutalisk 7 points8 points  (1 child)

A certain black female tennis player married to a Reddit owner recently had a meltdown that cost her the match; any subreddit mocking that moment got banned.

[–]afkb39sdfb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found this sub 5 years ago at ~7,000 subscribers. Even then the sub "is going to be banned any day now" circle jerk was going on. Five years later it's still here, this circle jerk happens once or twice a year, usually after some other sub like fatpeoplehate gets banned.

[–]beachbbqlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't believe I've ever committed hate speech, so if I'm banned I wont be back.

[–]DesiForever 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I am new to TRP. Wtf is happening. Will we have some sort of mirror of all these posts if something happens ? I have a lot to learn.

[–]modTheRedPike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

trp.red

[–]finelicks 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is there a separate database where I can access all of r/ theredpill ‘s content, just in case they do ban us

[–]modTheRedPike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

trp.red

If the balloon goes up, it'll have much of it.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]NormalAndy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we not just promote the trp site and vote with our feet instead?

I’ve had my share of fluffy kittens....

edit: (registered for trp.red - nice extra security later!)

[–]wtf_is_taken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ppl are getting mad for no reason.

[–]Coregod109 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Aren't the mods from the banout2018 sub just flagging other reddits? If so couldn't we just band together with some other reddits like 4chan to do the same to them. Don't really know if this would have any impact

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No mass reporting. That's against reddit TOS.

We will peacefully protest.

[–]Coregod109 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like a better idea

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tsk, as if we could give a shit if they ban us.
True, reddit is handy, both for learning as for lulz, but if they think they'll eliminate trp by banning it on reddit we're in for a lot of the latters

[–]Johnnadawearsglasses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Am I reading it right that the actual “threat” is that if admins don’t ban these sites, the mods will start banning participants from the sub-Reddits they mod? If so, I hereby un-subscribe from such august sub-Reddits as “aww”, “animals beingbros” etc. I may be sad for a day not seeing dogs making faces that mimic human (sorry “hooman”) emotion for food, but I shall persevere after I reckon.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]VennHearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I've been out of the loop. Can someone please update me?

[–]eluethero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can silence one's speech by using force, yet it backfires and becomes loud in people's minds and hearts most of the time. All kinds of censorship unless it is extremely sensitive (in fact i do not believe anything is sensitive but that is just me, many people have strong grasp on their beliefs) material or topic which can cause chaos and disorder.

I support this petition with all my heart.

[–]dewzahundred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the only way to win is not to play

[–]Prison4SideofBeef 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When is the last time a petition ever changed anything on an internet message board?

[–]TheFallingCosmos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if we should get taken down where would we revive our great community?

[–]Questionnaire7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Call me dumb but that whole thing went over my head. It read as though it was supposed to be a logical fallacy kinda joke.

[–]wanderer231988 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they will not ban us. They need us. It is like when girl can not get rid of her Chad lover.

[–]Darkone06 1 points1 points [recovered]

I don't get TRP obsession with Trump.

Dude is the biggest blue pill asshole in the world and he is parede here as if he were some savior.

Him and his supporters are delusional and the faster we drain the swamp of them and their bullshit the faster we can lock them all up in Guantanamo Bay.

We need to get back to science based decisions and stop running this country on feels.

Elections 2016 were an inside job!

[–]duckyhs 1 points1 points [recovered]

Go outside and play with the other children. Adults are in here speaking.

[–]carpenterio 1 points1 points [recovered]

Where are they? You mean you? did you take your fedora off first?

[–]Darkone06 1 points1 points [recovered]

Shit I wish we had an adult in office, at this fucking point I'll even take W Bush back.

Anyone that isn't this toddler in chief.

[–]duckyhs 1 points1 points [recovered]

We finally get a president that can speak his mind and has channels where he can speak directly to the people without having to go through the media, takes shit 24/7 from the MSM and so far is doing a hell of a job as president. But because some documentaries claimed he some how might be a "narcissist" without any proper medical consultation. Doesnt give a shit what people think about him, very level headed, hes some how the toddler in chief? Give me a fucking break. Apparently people are gullible to every little propaganda piece about him.

[–]Darkone06 1 points1 points [recovered]

It's not the presidents job to be a Twitter troll online. He doesn't speak for himself he speaks for all of us. This whole country is being held hostage every time he tweets.

A president can't just say what's on his mind recklessly, it could start a war or kill the stock market.

[–]duckyhs 1 points1 points [recovered]

But it hasnt been recklessly, if it has then where are all these wars and conflicts? The fact that people are so brainwashed by msm talking points thinking hes unhigned, going to be starting wars, hes the bad scary orange cheeto man in charge of nuke codes just shows how effective the propaganda is. Your reality vs actual reality are 2 completely different things.

[–]funkysoulsearcher 1 points1 points [recovered]

Omg! U need to debrainwash

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Whine about national politics elsewhere.

[–]RedPilledRoaster 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Did you just say WHITE?!?!?!

HATE SPEECH

[–]modTheRedPike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Goddamn it....

[–]Darkone06 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I'm saying. TRP is only going to get ban if we keep sucking in Trumps dick.

If we just stick to male topics and stop taking about Trump like he is the embodiment of TRP principles or the 2nd coming off Jesus we will be fine.