Red Pill TheoryShe's going to get away with whatever she wants. Accept it. Stop caring. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Schrodingersdawg

A lot of guys on here take some satisfaction in talking about some stuck up 27 year old cock carousel rising cunt is gonna slam into the wall face first and regret her years of slutting around. I have bad news for those of you who think there's going to be some karmic fairness to this.

She's not. Most of them are gonna lock down some poor beta sap.

That girl that you know banged 3 guys at that party? She's going to get her wedding, with $30,000 flowers at the ripe age of 30 to some virgin beta provider that she only has sex with twice a year. She's going to continue to find alpha cock, have a kid that's not his, and divorce rape him and make him pay child support.

That girl that smashed a guy's head with a beer bottle? He's going to get beat up by a horde of white knights if he tries to retaliate.

That girl in your Computer Science class? She's going to get betas doing all the work for her and a fast track career in Intel or Apple due to feminists claiming women need more help in STEM.

She's going to get her way. Just because you shut her down, doesn't mean that there aren't 1000 other horny blue pill men trying to build the greatest pedestal since the Tower of Babel for her.

So let go. Accept that she's going to easily win by virtue of her second X chromosome. We do not choose who we are born as.

You could be a starving African child who's never drunk clean water.

You could be a child soldier.

You could've been born in North Korea.

You could've been Princess Diana's oldest son.

Appreciate the fact that despite this being an unfair world, you got a pretty good deal. Appreciate that we have no control over our birthright, but control over our lives.

There are people above, and people below. Realise that this is not just between men and women, but those of all social classes.

Let the anger drive you. But know to let it go. Learn to find more meaningful reasons to excel.

The sooner you accept some people have it much better for much less work, the sooner you will decide to improve instead of complain.

Because all feminists do is complain.

Outrage will not help. Anger only makes you seem bitter to others. And nothing is a bigger turnoff than bitterness.

[–]2Overkillengine 176 points177 points  (10 children)

Yup. The only thing you have control over is yourself.

So only bother worrying about whether you are letting anyone get away with bullshit.

Prioritize number one - you. You are the only one you can rely on to help yourself. Trying to rely on others and appeasing them is the fantasy society sells you to keep fresh crops of poor deluded schmucks oiling the gears with their blood and sweat.

Reward others for the virtues of their actions, not their identity.

[–]AgentSmith27 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Yup, this goes for most of life's problems. Worry about yourself, and focus on how to make your life work out the way you want it.

The people who incessantly whine just don't get it. You can't change the world, despite what they may have told you when you were a kid. You won't even make a dent in it most of the time. The sooner you accept things the way they are, the faster you can adapt to the world. .. so don't try to make the world adapt to you.

[–]Exibus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. The only thing you have control over is yourself.

And even in this case control is far from absolute.

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[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

And to do it for a reason other than revenge is even better.

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[–]kellykebab 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Awesome. Watched the whole thing. Really surprised and impressed that he never once let anyone he passed pass him back (except for the leader, very briefly). It's like no one else was trying to win.

Would be curious to see how close the other cars got to him and how much, if any, of his driving was defensive.

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[–]kellykebab -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ha ha, well that makes it a little less inspiring.

[–]love2fap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Good post OP. The majority of us shit into water more clean than what half the world is drinking right now. While enjoying the many conveniences of the first world, we might as well become slick talking, in shape RP operators.

[–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (14 children)

Thank you. There's is far too much focus on women in this sub. The focus should be on what we can do about it.

Yes. Life is unfair. We are the disposable gender. GET OVER IT.

Go do something productive with your time instead of complaining.

edit: concern trolling blah blah I know. Point stands. Do something with your life.

[–]2insickness 0 points1 point  (10 children)

There's is far too much focus on women in this sub. The focus should be on what we can do about it.

That's why I think it was a mistake to ban game from this sub. Getting the upper hand with women is entirely relevant.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Depends on what you mean by game.

What there needs to be more of is how to establish a consistent, attractive frame. Pickup techniques/routines have no place in TRP.

Edit: I also loathe talk like 'getting the upper hand'. That's the absolute worst mindset to have. If you play games with women, you will only attract women who play games. This will lead to disastrous relationships time and time again.

If you are open and honest with yourself and your intentions, you will attract open and honest women. These will lead to emotionally fulfilling relationships that can last decades (sexual and non-sexual).

Women aren't the enemy. Don't treat them as such.

[–]2insickness -3 points-2 points  (8 children)

I also loathe talk like 'getting the upper hand'.

Having hand simply means that they view you as higher status than them. They are chasing you rather than you chasing them.

If you play games with women, you will only attract women who play games.

It's all game whether you like to admit it or not. No guy is completely honest with women. If you were completely honest with women you'd walk up to them and say, "I'd like to fuck you." And don't give me this bullshit about wanting to get to know their personality first. You don't fuck a girl's personality.

Game is about consistently being able to meet women rather than it just randomly happening to you.

Women aren't the enemy. Don't treat them as such.

Having game is the opposite of treating women like the enemy. It is accepting them for who they are and how they act and changing yourself to further your own goals with them rather than trying to change women. You should know this from reading TRP.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I am always open and honest with the women in my life.

I rarely walk up to women and say things like "I want to fuck you" because that is overt communication. That's not how women communicate. They communicate with emotions and sub-communication.

When I approach a women I am clear with my intentions. She knows that I am there to get in her pants. I know she knows. There is no need to say so overtly. She respects this.

You should examine why you believe why you can't be honest with women. If it's grounded in any sort of shame or fear, that is the issue. Deal with those emotions and you can be honest and attractive.

[–]2insickness 0 points1 point  (6 children)

That's not how women communicate.

You can communicate with women like that. If you're already dating a girl you can say, "I want to fuck you." You should examine why you believe you can't be honest with women when you first meet them. If it's grounded in any sort of shame or fear, that is your issue.

And you can stop talking down to me as if I have an issue. I have no issue. I am fucking as many attractive women as I want. I communicate with women effectively and emotionally. I let them know where I stand. But I don't hide behind a society-imposed veneer of 'honesty.'

If you think a co-worker looks fat in her jeans, you don't say, "You look fat." That would be honest. Nobody does that though, and neither do you. And for good reason.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wasn't talking down. Trying to offer advice to a brother who is going down a dangerous path.

Relationships aren't fulfilling because of the sex. You can get sex from a hooker. Relationships are fulfilling because of the connection you make with another person.

[–]Pornography_saves_li 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Gotta chime in here, snowboarder has a point. To look at it as adversarial, as conquering, has its appeal, but its not an LTR mindset, and will not lead to one. To approach game as a dance, one that does not need concurrent verbal instructions ('step two three, turn two three) is both more enjoyable, and more natural', than a verbal approach. Game is banter, its flirting, its seduction. It is not so well applied as proposition, or catcall, or 'bold directness', barring naturally Alpha traits.

[–]2insickness 0 points1 point  (3 children)

When did I say anything about my game being adversarial or conquering? No where. But if you demonstrate low value for a woman, she will lose attraction for you. End of story.

And if you want to use the dance analogy, take a look at Salsa or Tango. There are steps. It is an interaction where the man leads with a preset role.

There is nothing 'natural' about approaching women. 90% of men out there have too much approach anxiety to even approach one woman in their life. 'Naturals' are not 'natural,' they are freaks. You can learn from them and practice their moves, but you are not a natural. And pretending you are does not make it so. I don't know you, but if you are in the high majority of men out there, you probably haven't approached a woman in the last three months. It's not 'natural' to most men. So to learn to do it effectively takes repitition and consistency.

To simply try to be natural is like trying to beat the best MMA fighter in your weight class by simply using your 'natural' fighting abilities. Sure, some people have 'natural' fighting ability. But you probably don't. You probably have to train your ass off day in day out doing the same moves over and over again until it's instinct to you. That's when you become natural with it. You don't become natural simply by stepping into the ring and trying to act natural.

[–]Pornography_saves_li 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Who needs that level of training to get a woman?

Perspective. Its important.

[–]2insickness 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It depends on your current looks, status, level of experience and how hot/how many women you want to get. If you are average and are happy with average women, then you don't need much. But if you're average and gunning for tens, you'll need a lot of practice.

[–]sliderdog 46 points47 points  (7 children)

It's true. In the end it doesn't affect me. Good for them if they lock down a beta provider. It ain't gonna be me, so what do I care?

The real age when they realize they are not hot young 22 year olds is not when they "hit the wall" and marry in their early 30s. The eye opener for them is when they go through their first divorce in their late 30s/early 40s. That's when their looks have declined to the point that even the betas she used to reject don't want her.

But being women they won't even realize they fucked up, it's the men that have fucked her over all her life, and she will still feel she's entitled to the best men. Only unlike her 29 year old self, she can't even get a good beta provider at this age.

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[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

losing beauty

I'd argue this isn't as bad as losing femininity. All women lose beauty with age, but as long as they remain loyal and feminine, any man, alpha or beta, who desires a long marriage will have wife goggles. We don't all want to remain single long into old age, but that's just me. Nothing wrong with pulling a Hugh Hefner.

[–]chakravanti93 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Yeah TRP doesn't like to go there because most of its members wont get married. It is a good a deal if you go into it young and keep her yours.

Nothing in life beats having someone who has been there the whole time when you are old.

[–]sliderdog 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I agree, I'd say even the vast majority of beta men stay with their wives post wall. My point is that if she decides to end the marriage because he isn't cutting the mustard anymore, she still thinks she can get a better man when in reality she can't.

Basically a 30 year old woman at the wall can still get a pretty good beta provider, but at 40 years old if she chooses to divorce it is extremely rare for her to be able to score another beta provider as good as the one she had. Women do decline in beauty from 20 to 30 but not nearly as much as they do from 30 to 40.

So we can talk about the wall all we want in this sub, OP is right though, women will get away with riding the carousel and snagging a beta. The only thing I would add is they can't do it twice.

[–]chakravanti93 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You mean once they have a provider they can't ride the carousel? That's ridiculous.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

we don't need her at 35 nothing to be happy about.

[–]thebears1986 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Some will, some won't. And the amount who won't is increasing. With the age of marriage increasing and men realizing as they get older that the price of pussy is $0.00, fewer men are deciding to get married. Long term relationship with kids is not stigmatized as much.

I'm in my 30's. Within my extended group of friends about half are married and half are unmarried. The guys are cleaning up and the women would like to settle down but they aren't even close to that happening. Maybe if they had a boyfriend longer than 3 months, but they can't get that.

I am friends with a girl that you describe above. She is in her early 30's, still hot as hell, was a pro ballet dancer, now a lawyer. We dated for a month 2 years ago and she was a flake. Now she doesn't have a guy to flake on. She goes on Match.com for a couple months every few months and nothing comes of it.

There are women scrambling to find a seat when the music stops and some determined ones are successful. But the amount of entitlement today coupled with never being told anything but "you are amazing" is making it difficult for over 30yo women to make a change in their strategy and personality.

[–]Senior ContributorRedPope 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I think you picked the wrong example.

She goes on Match.com for a couple months every few months and nothing comes of it.

That is not a sign of the Wall approaching. She goes on match.com every few months to get a cheap validation fix. Its a great high. Of course nothing comes of it. She has zero intention of finding a man there.

From your description -- former dancer and "still hot as hell" -- this girl could be 10 years from the Wall. She is in the top 1% of women her age.

Doesn't have a guy to flake on? Ha! Guarantee she's still getting alpha cock on demand. Probably her own stable of boy toys, younger and buffer than you.

I bet she still goes to the gym, doesn't she? Assuming she doesn't get a sudden and severe care of baby rabies, when this woman finally hits the Wall, it will be tissue soft. Cushioned by her own achievements and a healthy lifestyle.

Athletic, educated, healthy, great career. Probably getting young tail on the sly. This 30-something girl sounds like a redpill man.

[–]thebears1986 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All wrong. Might hold up for others (no comment there), but not this girl.

[–]through_a_ways -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This 30-something girl sounds like a redpill man.

Acting like a redpill man is the female equivalent of being bluepill.

Minus the fitness and education stuff of course.

[–]PlusGoody -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know a ton women like that, being in NYC. They are unhappily single becuase they are looking for a freakin' unicorn. They could have their pick of thousands of rich decent looking guys in their 40s, divorced or looking for an excuse to divorce. But they want a guy who is outright handsome, AND ready to settle down AND financially secure AND in a cool job and social circle. There is one of these guys for every hundred women who wants one, and they can easily date women in their early 20s, and do.

[–]Unpopular_But_Right 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Girl on my FB friends' list: Late 20s, 250 pounds. Was in D/s relationship where her boyfriend would 'share' her with other guys, and into swinging and basically fucked probably 100 guys. Liked getting gangbanged. Has 8 year old kid, of unknown source.

Just got engaged yesterday to decent-looking fellow about 10 years her senior. Already today planning her extravagant wedding.

[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Exactly. Had he turned her down, there would've been another. And another. And another.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

what kind of guy turns in a 250lb beast ...

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (13 children)

The feminists have won - according to you.

This is part of the reason I have a major problem with "Red Pill" thought. It often appears to actually support feminist policy with its promotion of sleeping around, being an "alpha," and so-on. Now this thread.

I'm a strong believer in the idea that a small group of people can change the world. That's what the 1960s femnazis believed - and look at where they brought this country. They have so broken you that it is considered "Red Pill" for you to tell other men to "accept it" and "take it like a man." Bullshit. That's defeatism.

Nobody should sit around on this forum and complain, but just because complaining is a bad idea, doesn't mean changing the system isn't a good idea. Your comment is loser ideology.

[–]lesbianDREAMS 18 points19 points  (2 children)

/r/theredpill is to show you how the world really is.
I think /r/mensrights would be more up your alley if you want do anything about it, though I haven't been there in a while. I remember there was a lot of complaining

[–]Ironhigh 13 points14 points  (0 children)

/r/mensrights wants to change the world.

/r/TheRedPill has a more realistic approach,it's about changing yourself.

[–]Beardsman2 25 points26 points  (2 children)

"Yesterday I was clever, so I wanted to change the world. Today I am wise, so I am changing myself"

[–]Pallanas -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Exactly my though, props for the clever wording

[–]Pornography_saves_li 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The manosphere is the umbrella. The MRM informs of the injustice, and directs some of the resultant anger. PUA sites are the wide end of the funnel, the simplistic paint by numbers version of Game Theory, which attempts to explain the reality of the social landscape. And mgtow provides a non ideological path to follow for all men, essentially freeing men of the yoke of social conditioning.

All of this is geared towards helping men identify the mines in the roadway while maximizing their enjoyment / the 'worth' of their life. Roissy was bang on accurate when he chose the slogan 'where pretty lies perish', and lifting the veil has two tendencies:

First, it relieves a lot of men from pressures they didn't even know they bore.

It enables men to choose their path wide eyes wide open, and many men are donning black armour.

We cannot hope to change laws. Thankfully, we learned from the feminists and opted to change the culture instead.

[–]zephyrprime -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I absolutely agree with you. Just sitting there and taking it is complete bullshit and defeatism. It's not enough to just withstand and survive the abuse that your oppressor dumps on you. You don't really win until you get your oppressor to stop abusing you and that's exactly what I aim to do. Redpill and MRA as a movement need to become more political, louder, and more proactive. None of this secret movement bullcrap that will never effect change because it remains in the shadows the entire time.

[–]weirdnamedindian -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Damn! I ws kinda agreeing wt him there n then u said what u said! Fuck! Maybe improve yourself and never stop fighting to undo the madness that has been unleashed, instead of just whining! Guess that should be the real Red Pill message!!

[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yet what should we do? What can we do? The feminists have already turned everything not in total compliance with them into "hate speech" and "misogyny"

The greatest fallacy is that the rise of fascism in America will resemble the rise of Hitler. There's more than one way to suppress dissidents.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

There are many things we can do. If you are curious, I would be happy to learn you up on how simple this is. But if all you want is cheap pussy, then forget it, keep chanting the words of a disempowered man.

[–]chakravanti93 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Start a racist conservative cult.

[–]JudgeRedPill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can't get enough of the posts like this. They've done wonders in making me more even keeled and optimistic again.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Considering the job market and the numbers of unemployed men are there really that many eligible betas to go around?

[–]greycloud24 5 points6 points  (0 children)

don't know about you, but i live in some form of pseudo democracy. if enough people who are complaining band together they become a demographic of voters. complaints turn into political activism, political activism turns into social change. politicians are forced to pander to the demographics of voters.

i encourage complaints so long as they are accompanied by organization and plans of action. you do not live in a bubble, you can get together with like minded people and change the shitty society you live in.

complaints on the internet might waste time in real life. but they do not much effect your own social life, unless you foolishly tell people your reddit username. for now you are partly anonymous, use that to gather with like minded individuals and to push society in a direction that you like.

OP has a point, but also his point destroys your political power. don't choose to go voiceless, don't stay silent and just accept life as it is. work for social change.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Except that these women aren't truly happy.

A woman is happiest when she's pair-bonded to an alpha. Robbing a beta of his bucks and then divorcing him may provide for her material needs, but it does little to assuage the deep anxiety that comes from the lack of a worthy mate.

It's true: they need us more than we need them.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Female or male, this is really a matter of opinion. Some people will be happier knowing that their material needs are secure and met. Arguably, happiness, in the non-material sense can only be secondary to material needs such as food, shelter, lifestyle, etc- all of which she will receive for free if she uses her vagina in a toxic manner.

[–]through_a_ways 7 points8 points  (0 children)

they need us more than we need them.

He's the hero she deserves, but not the one she wants right now.

So she'll spurn him because he can take it. Because he's not her hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A white knight.

[–]kruddthemessiah 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What a defeatist attitude

Want her and others like her to not get away with it

Invent a sex robot

Not scientific minded - support and fund VasalGel

[–]CarlsPudding 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you. This whole sense of karmic justice that a lot of guys seem to have on here is ridiculous. Har har, she's going to hit the wall, joke's on her! No, dumbass. She'll get her beta bux. Guaranteed. The whole point of this sub is for you to see the world for what it is so that YOU don't become that sucker.

That's it. End of story. You're welcome.

[–]dontidentifyme 11 points12 points  (5 children)

the red pill is such an interesting sub. it advertises itself as one thing, a red pill, but its actually so many things. the red pill is just a metaphor for all the things that this sub is. wow im thinking im getting it now. and i have to say im hooked. i still need to learn what some things are, like this wall that i keep hearing of.

[–]Dat_Black_Guy 5 points6 points  (4 children)

The wall, in short is basically the point at which looks /beauty are no longer a woman go-to or most dangerous weapon. Her age starts to show an people start second guessing putting the effort to support her

[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

To expand on that, the wall is primarily a thing for beautiful women. Ugly women really do have it rough, there's not much they can do short of plastic surgery. A good body only does so much, and most of them don't even try.

But a beautiful woman hitting the wall? Like a Greek tragic hero. All the power, stripped away. From the peak to the pit because she has developed nothing else, in the belief that her beauty was enough for all time. One gets a cathartic feeling watching it happen.

Except you root for the Greek hero.

[–]Bouncing_Back 4 points4 points [recovered]

I think I'm going to need to screen print this. Reading this makes me so happy because it's so completely true. I'm 32, and it's happening to so many women that I know. And it's hilarious to watch them settle for the men they are settling with.

[–]Venividivixii 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Settling has been used to imply that the person they end up with is beneath them, which, if you consider their current situation, is not true.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except you root for the Greek hero.

And you root with the pre-wall beauty :)

[–]superfreak77 8 points8 points [recovered]

I fucking know. Stop reminding me. She invited me to move into her new place, then locked me out, kept all my furniture, appliances, shit I only have my car and bike because I was able to remove them from the garage before she changed the locks and flagged security on me. (gated community).

Was tempted to do an AMA but I'm afraid of it blowing up in my face. Bitch IS having Karma ream her a new one tho. Had to donate a kidney for her kid, almost loses her mom to a heart attack. Right Fucking Now, she's in the hospital.

[–]HolaGuacamola 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good, now is the time to call the cops and get your shit back.

[–]Grandelic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Long time lurker here, first time commenting/contributing.

As I've been swallowing TRP, I've really embraced the self improvement aspect to as full of an extent as possible. Everything else I've tried to take with a grain of salt; because every one has their biases. This post spoke volumes to me because as OP said, you can't worry about karma catching up to a carousel riding slut. That just gives them the validation on your thought; and in return takes away from the time you have to develop yourself in to the absolute fucking beast of a man you are capable of being.

(Also, upvote for "We do not choose who we are born as". The system is made to be taken for granted. Don't be mad at sluts who use it to their advantage. Do the same thing and clear your path as the dominant and successful Alpha Male that you are.)

[–]3rdweal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you define your own success by the failure of others, then you are relying on blind luck. It might work out for you, but the chances are it won't.

I would like to say this quote is from the Talmud, but I first saw it on Call of Duty - regardless, it is most relevant:

"Live well. It is the greatest revenge"

[–]JGH8763 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everything you said can be summed up as: Women are inherently more desired and more attractive than men, so they are going to have more favorable conditions for survival, development, reproduction, success, contentment, happiness, etc.

90/30. Remember those fucking numbers. 90% of female ancestors have had genetic success, while only 30% of male ancestors have. That alone explains virtually everything about male-female dynamics.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

No, social change is happening and I'm riding this train to the station, I'm not getting off because somebody doesn't have foresight or the patience to wait, I'll be the guy shoveling coal if I have to but I intend to be a part of the movement that re-civilizes the west and women are up first for a big hit.

[–]chakravanti93 3 points4 points  (0 children)

...movement that re-civilizes the west and women are up first for a big hit.

Gotta keep that pimp hand strong.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're delusional if you think anything is going to change.

[–]temparooney 20 points21 points  (12 children)

Piroko takes it a bit further than he/she needs to. But the premise of OP is wrong.

Women don't get so many chances. The wheel is turning.

Independent of democrat / republican politics, men are reading Redpill. Even those on university campuses and whatever. They are starting to see that what they are doing with women isn't working. Some will try something new. The idea is spreading and will not stop spreading.

The imperative for men to reproduce and fuck women is too strong for anything else to happen.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (11 children)

50k minus alts spread across the entire world.

We're a fraction of a percent.

Look out for number 1, try to help close buddies, other than that, fight club rules apply if you don't want your life to get hit by the feminist freight train.

First rule of Red Pill? You don't talk about Red Pill.

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Hell, browsing some of the bigger subreddits you can see the redpill ideology spilling out into other places regularly. Any time there is an AFBB situation described on /r/askreddit or (god forbid) /r/adviceanimals, the top few comments are always calling it out for what it is (albeit with more politically tasteful language).

I've only been part of this community for half a year, but in that time even I've seen a massive seeping of redpill into other subreddits. The evidence and results are simply too compelling for a lot of people to ignore; even some people that are put off by this sub's disdain for 'tasteful language' parrot the ideals and evidence because it's so valuable and applicable to real life.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing with reddit is that generally speaking the demographic is younger than that which you'll find in this sub. /r/adviceanimals in particular caters to the younger teenage crowd. I don't expect them to understand relationship dynamics, they haven't experienced anything meaningful yet.

Subs like /r/AskMen and /r/DeadBedrooms make me scratch my head. You'd think that after being put through the cycle more men would realize that something is amiss.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Agreed, even on AskRetards its starting to become far more common that RP principles (Diluted down a little for the delicate sensibilities of the blue pill mainstream) are not only posted, but upvoted.

This just wasnt happening before.

People are waking up, slowly

[–]chakravanti93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen it crop up in bad-religion a few times. TRP was never named except as a way for r/bad-regligion to just arbitrarily ignore and hamspter away Corinthians barring females from serving as priests.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 7 points8 points  (3 children)

On the one hand, you have a point. TRP is pretty small in the grand scheme of things, and does not in any way represent the way of thinking of the average man who's been spoonfed feminist bullshit his entire life.

But on the other hand, temparooney has a point about what's happening to men at large. The average Joe may have been able to accept feminism from the 70's, 80's and to an extent the 90's, but the deeper we get into this third wave of it, the more he is starting to wake up to just how insane and irrational this movement truly is, and just how bad it's trying to fuck him over.

That's why we're seeing so many a) alpha men adapting hardcore dark triad traits in order to get maximum fucks, and b) beta men going there own way (declining marriage rates, "there's no good men left," etc) because they understand on some level that all they are is bucks, and they're better off alone.

Women have been given an unprecedented amount of power by our society, and predictably, they've been abusing the hell out of it. At the same time, men are realizing that they may not be aloud to speak against anything feminists or women at large do, but they are acting against them with their life decisions.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 5 points6 points  (2 children)

But on the other hand, temparooney has a point about what's happening to men at large. The average Joe may have been able to accept feminism from the 70's, 80's and to an extent the 90's, but the deeper we get into this third wave of it, the more he is starting to wake up to just how insane and irrational this movement truly is, and just how bad it's trying to fuck him over.

Yup. In the 70s and 80s, it was hard denying that women in the times before that have gotten the short end of the stick. Now that it's pretty much only about furthering a feminist agenda ("we need public financing for our stupid studies" "we need harsher penalties and even less evidence for people who are accused of rape" "women have a right for 50% representation anywhere" yadda yadda yadda), people realize it isn't really about justice.

That's why we're seeing so many a) alpha men adapting hardcore dark triad traits in order to get maximum fucks, and b) beta men going there own way (declining marriage rates, "there's no good men left," etc) because they understand on some level that all they are is bucks, and they're better off alone.

Thank God for the Internet for that. Assuming there hadn't been one, I wonder if the development (which would have been too politically incorrect to mention in the media) would have gotten any wide-spread attention.

[–]Pornography_saves_li 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even with the internet, it took us years to get beyond the odd letter to the editor getting published. Without the internet, I guarantee you without a shadow of a doubt this would not be happening. Men would be force fed feminism, and every last one of them would believe only they feel pissed off.

For much of the early part of this 'wave' of the MRM, we daily had comments of 'wow, I thought it was only me that thought like this!'. That small epiphany would have been denied without an internet, for sure.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its doubtful that women before that had the shitty end of the stick. maybe relative to modern men.

[–]eccentricrealist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

We might have 50k suscribers but there has to be a number of lurkers for everybody who hasn't suscribed yet.

[–]draketton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never clicked the "subscribe" button even though I have about 200 posts on this sub.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The best thing you can do is remember that you're not going to be one of them. I care about people so I genuinely feel sorry for those betas who do get locked down, even if it's their own fault. They simply don't understand whats going on until years of their life, finances, freedom & sanity are gone.

[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)


I read the stories, and it's not anger anymore. It's mostly pity. And I swear to myself that I will, under no circumstance, become that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly that's all we can do. Think of how more interesting our lives will be because of it though! When we're all 35-40-45, we will be the envy of our locked down friends. They'll look up to us like "How are you so happy?" lol.

[–]hashtagpound2point2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is definitely a huge part of having a red pill mentality. The 'deal with it' attitude should be used mainly on yourself.

[–]spartan1337 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I don't give a shit about this fact basically. The machines win at the end, only a few get disconnected from the Matrix, but those awakened get to live in the real world.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and if she doesn't become a hamplanet, she lives near me, and likes to ride around in old cars, I will be one of the guys fucking her. I don't care. Yes, I'm the worst possible man in here, that doesn't hate women, I simply fuck em.

[–]bh3244 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it's of no concern to me. too much focus is given on women here, all that matters is that you constantly improve yourself, the position of others is irrelevant and something you can't change.

[–]53Pirate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This post is very true. Sure, women will get in a little panic for a few years to find a beta provider for their babies when they hit the wall ... but once they get him, they're back in the catbird seat again.

Unless she hooked up with some broke loser.... if he leaves her, or she leaves him, she ends up with half his money & stuff, child support, and maybe even some alimony. And even if she chose poorly & doesn't get a lot of money/stuff out of the dude ... the State will be there to provide.

And then she'll find another. Even a 45 or 50 y/o divorcee in decent shape will often find some 60+ year old Beta gent to marry up with again. (& I've always found it kind of amazing how fast some women who didn't care to keep themselves up when they were married get themselves back in shape real soon after a divorce)

But there's no usefulness in getting wound up about it - it's the way of the world. Just recognize it, adapt, and plan accordingly.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just came back from a wedding in Hawaii. Can confirm.

[–]hashtagpound2point2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is definitely a huge part of having a red pill mentality. The 'deal with it' attitude should be used mainly on yourself.

[–]jjshinobi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I accept the fact that what defines a person's character is what one does with their manipulations. Some use manipulations to get conspicuous materialistic things for themselves and others to improve communities and themselves. I accept that not all are selfless and some are selfish, it's life. If one is looking for a selfless women who isn't into conspicuous consumption then look into the Peace Corps, perhaps there you can prove that not AWALT.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well said. Basically this.

Anger and bitterness are useless. Maybe some of us will go through that phase when we initially swallow the RP, but realize sooner than later - Anger and bitterness are useless. Spend no time on useless things.

[–]1kick6 1 point2 points  (2 children)

While everything the OP says is totally true, men still win. Why? Because we have the satisifaction of knowing we've earned something. Deep down below the entitlement conditioning, women know they've been given the pussy pass, and they will never be truly content because of it. As a man, we can get shit on by the female imperative, but at the end of the day: we can be content because our accomplishments are actually our accomplishments.

[–]josysomething -1 points0 points  (1 child)

being born with a dick is your accomplishment.

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a pretty sad view of things.

[–]cdp0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right. They have won, although I do know of at least 3 women who are nearly 40 and I'm 99% sure have dug their own grave for being so feminist(when it suits them) and princessy.

But yes on the whole they won, which is why in my older age I have become socially conservative and I vote accordingly.

We can try and fight for the children by voting conservative.

Also, you can be bitter but you don't have to let it consume you and you can still be quite happy.

[–]Moneyley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well said man. I think TRP must evolve. We've been stagnant, myself included. We post on unfair deals. I don't want this sub to be like another sub I used to like r/nofap. It stayed on stuff like "I said hi to a girl today" Hopefully we post more on improving ourselves what with lifting weights, career accolades etc. I personally love to hear TRP stories of some of us recovering from a system that favors women. I enjoy reading when we build careers improve ourselves and how it leads to a good smash or plates.

[–]circlhat 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Because all feminists do is complain.

And they achieve great success in deceiving man, this is why we post examples to prove our point. Feminist are much better in setting policy and better at getting their message across.

Outrage will not help. Anger only makes you seem bitter to others.

Understanding and perception will, you act like everyone knows as much as you, posting example of hitting the wall serves as a warning and a reminder.

[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

There is a difference between complaining and perception. There is a difference between only complaining and taking action. I am not opposed to the examples, in fact, I support them.

But to read every "hitting the wall" and "hamster" thread and complain instead of going outside and interacting with women, that is not progress. Everything in moderation.

[–]circlhat -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

But to read every "hitting the wall" and "hamster" thread and complain instead of going outside and interacting with women

every thread is not "Hitting the wall" or "Hamstering", I see more threads like this, take a look at all the new post.

If men could just go outside and interact with women than we wouldn't need TRP, you need to know how to interact and that is the entire purpose of the sub.

Simply saying go outside and talk to women is blue pill advice.

[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did not say every thread is about hitting the wall. Reread it.

There's a middle ground. It's too way to get stuck in a loop just reading and never doing.

[–]MockingDead 5 points6 points  (4 children)

oooh, a concern troll post.

Who cares if it makes me seem bitter. Somedays I am bitter. It's a raw deal, that inherent value and bias towards women. I have to accept it, I never have to like it.

We have a lot of new subbers who have been beaten down by women, seen the truth, and need to vent. Where can they go? Bars? Clubs? There is no place where a man can let his guard down. The Red Pill, they can, at least a little. And now you want to concern troll it away.

Your attempt at profundity is sophomoric.

[–]Schrodingersdawg[S] -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

ooh, a middle schooler who can use the thesaurus.

Realize that the message is that anger will get you nowhere. It's fine to be angry. But a permanent state of outrage is counter-productive. Maybe if you paid attention in English you'd know how to, I don't know, actually figure out what the theme behind a post is?

[–]MockingDead 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Perhaps if you had something important to say, you'd not beat around the bush and just say it. But instead you want attention but have absolutely zero insight to offer. That's the theme behind your post. It's been said before, and better, by betters.

And now you've been called on it and are angry. So angry that rather than defend your position, you hurl insults. Low T, pal. It's a hell of a drug, ain't it?

Maybe you should accept that your post is a shitpost and stop caring. But then, that requires a level of cognizance I suspect you lack.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

How this argument plays out in my head:


[–]MockingDead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahah! I'm totally the one in yellow.

[–]-Viking- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because all feminists do is complain

Oh the irony

[–]justme89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, that's not the truth, most people in computer science are not like that. Most programmers I know don't really care about seduction in general. Most of them make quite some money and have other activities. Of course they aren't cool enough to get really good looking girls in general, so what?

There is no way a girl like that is going to get to NASA. No one is going to pay her to do nothing. Maybe a bit at first but she will be stuck in a job without a mere raise for the rest of her life.

But I do admit that women have it much easier that men in school in general. This is because our society is stupid. I don't even need evidence to point out that anywhere anytime in school a girl can receive help from someone. And she will have bigger grades than you because duh, she is a girl.

But there are a couple of normal ones too. Maybe they won't look like superstars but at least you will have a normal life with her without too much headaches.

I can tell you countless stories from high school, I was in a class full of girls. But do not worry, they do not get really far.

But most importantly, why should you be frustrated like this. I see everyone around here waste so much energy being angry and frustrated. Look on the bright side. She will most certainly have a worst life then you in her 30s and 40s and just about the rest of her life. No one will ever give a dime about her, aside from maybe her husband and kids.

All that attention that she used to receive will leave an empty space in her. I have countless female coworkers that have been using me to measure how much attractiveness they have left and most of them already are in a depression over the loss of their looks.

[–]Versaeus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What a loser way to think, we can change it.

[–]cooltrip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"That girl that you know banged 3 guys at that party?"

How can a man be sexually interested in a woman who bangs 3 guys at a party?. Female promiscuity is the perfect anti-Viagra. Poor guys who got banged by her. I wish all women were promiscuous, so I could be less interested in the sort of love or affective bond they might have to offer to me or I might be missing out.

Perhaps I'm lucky with this personal point of view I feel inside me:

  • If she's promiscuous like a man, then I don't feel myself attracted to her (furthermore, I feel sorry for the men who are having sex with her; a similar feeling to that you get for a guy when one day you find out her wife/mother of his children had former relationships with other men).

  • If she's not promiscuous, then I feel the sexual interest for her, but since she's not promiscuous, then my sexual interest doesn't get frustrated by the possible men she might be banging.

So yeah, female promiscuity is a great anti-Viagra. It means women being more willing to give you sex plus making yourself less interested in that sex.

Fucking typos.

[–]RedPillDan 2 points2 points [recovered]

I disagree with this. A post wall slut desperately seeking her provider is probably the easiest woman in the world to manipulate.

[–]heavywepsguy 22 points23 points  (0 children)

For us maybe. The average man is still blue pill, will treat the post wall slut better than he treats himself, sees love in rose-tinted lens, and will think he has won the "prize" that the thirty different men she's been with before failed to win.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

But why would you? It's not worth your time. Go find someone you legitimately enjoy instead of playing a game with an older woman.

Unless you get off on manipulating people. That's just your thing then.

[–]RedPillDan 2 points2 points [recovered]

People read the word manipulate as a purely negative thing. It's not really. All I mean by this, is in the world of red pill theory, a post wall slut is one of the easier kinds of women to "manage" if you prefer. Dread game absolutely owns them.

If you want to reliably keep your balls empty and your stomach full without having to jump through a ton of hoops, it's the way to go.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They are also of much higher risk to do crazy shit in the name of getting married / having children. Dread game only increases that risk.

It works if you are an economically unviable mate (or much younger than they are), but if you have any kind of success it's very risky.

You attract what you are. If you are manipulative, so will be your lovers.

[–]zephyrprime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Because all feminists do is complain.

Outrage will not help. Anger only makes you seem bitter to others. And nothing is a bigger turnoff than bitterness."

Yeah and look what happened. Feminists got their way and screwed up the world and us individuals are stuck fighting a losing batting in our own personal lives.

Look, being a victim and complaining a lot disempowers you and turns people off in your individual life.

HOWEVER - within society at large, complaining a lot is SUPER EFFECTIVE. The civil rights movement and feminism won precisely because they were the loudest, most vociferous, most organized complainers. Complaining at a societal level is completely effective at promoting change. The whole men's movement needs to copy the social protest techniques that the prior movements used so successfully. We need to speak out, organize, participate, and educate.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes that's right, be a good boy and accept that you are disposable...

Yeah, no. How about fuck off. Sitting back and doing nothing when you are being persecuted is cowardly and you are weak for suggesting it.

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[–]LS_D 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't understand the men who are bitter about pretty girls taking advantage of being pretty

It's no different to people taking advantage of any superficial aspect of their world/s

The problem with women (or men) using their 'looks' as 'currency' to trade for other 'favors' IMO is no different to a corrupt person/company 'taking advantage' of their 'position' ..... and when everything's for sale, many people's values can get badly bent out of shape .....

BUT "feelings aren't facts" ergo; the way to 'winning/happiness/satisfaction' (or coming in a place) is no longer clearly defined, for anyone except via bullshit superficial things like "he who has the most toys wins"

It's more a Fuckin Game these days than it ever has been .... so go on and enjoy it for what it really is!

Bottom line: RedPill ideology will diminish in direct correlation to the tempering of the feminazi movement .... hopefully on day we'll no longer behave like adolescents most of our lives!

[–]Heart_Smith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this. As a newbie around here this is quite the forced perspective shift. Keep up the good work! <3

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because all feminists do is complain.

But, let me guess, you guys are just pointing out the huge oppressive injustices done to you by women. Am I warm?

[–]super-nsfw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeppp...went to school with a female that went into electrical engineering.....fast track to management, never did anything technical in her career. (To be fair, she did pass a very intellectually demanding course.)

[–]ModsAreCunts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone needs to be alpha enough to post this to xx and get it upvoted to the top spot.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

While I'm sure a lot of the examples you used have probably happened in real life, they are all very exaggerated. For example, the girl who fucks three guys at a party settles down with virgin beta and has some alpha dude's babies and divorce rapes the beta. That's so fucking extreme and it just doesn't happen that way very often. You took all of TRP's talking points and created a hyperbolic situation that is nothing more than a hypothetical.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I dunno man i see varying combinations of this happening all the time

[–]CarlsPudding 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, doesn't really seem that far fetched to me.

[–]GC0W30 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None of this is rare. I'm guessing that you know these people and just don't know these people WELL.

[–]homosexualsaipian -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

The sooner you accept some people have it much better for much less work, the sooner you will decide to improve instead of complain.

yes, TRP needs less feminism, less stories of beta fags who are tapped and wasted, and women who get away with these shit.

we need to say, clearly, "this is the type of women we want to fuck. this is the type of men we want to raise. Fuck you, betas and whores. Fuck you dipsuckasuckas."

[–]circlhat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes, TRP needs less feminism, less stories of beta fags who are tapped and wasted, and women who get away with these shit.

That is making the assumption everyone who reads TRP is redpill, there are people still deciding , every five minutes we get a new hero who wants to tell trp what they should and should not focus on.

we need to say, clearly, "this is the type of women we want to fuck. this is the type of men we want to raise. Fuck you, betas and whores. Fuck you dipsuckasuckas."

This is not a elitist group, chill with the attitude

[–]Bouncing_Back -4 points-4 points [recovered]

As long as the red pill continues to thrive, and beta shaming becomes mainstream, all this will come to an end my friend.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Beta shaming has been around for thousands of years. You can't have a social hierarchy without the bottom wrung being shamed.

If the beta improves, the requirements to be alpha will be that much higher. It will always be the top 20%

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This. One thing that irks me about TRP population is how few people understand that beta is relative. You will never have a 100% alphas... then the word loses its meaning. Women want high status ... if everyone improves, nothing changes. The top is still the top.

[–]cascadecombo 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You're disillusioned if you think that will ever happen. There will always be those people who buy into whatever they are shown. And there will always be those who listen to women for advice on how to get women.

[–]Bouncing_Back -2 points-2 points [recovered]

This could be the future as well. Red pill wasn't around before to people to get perspective. Now it's growing. So you could be right, I don't discount that. But things could change, and you shouldn't discount that either.

[–]cascadecombo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Let's look at it this way. People love taking sides. Just like now, these BP guys who take the name BP as their own, are exposed to the facts, have seen the truth.

And they see how angry it makes women, so they think that consoling these women (despite seeing discussion here otherwise) will get them laid. And suddenly they are given an enemy, someone to bash, someone they think women actually but only love to hate because it's what they actually want.

These poor fools will always exist man.

[–]hamstercide -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

And people wonder why people like Elliot Rodgers lash out against society in a hail of bullets.

[–]GC0W30 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's the guys who get divorce raped, incarcerated for domestic non-violence, etc who have real beefs. That dude had no real problems, biology just created a fragile snowflake that couldn't emotionally handle being part of society. I had to earn my German sedan with hard work.... dad never bought shit for me to drive.

[–]hamstercide -1 points0 points  (1 child)

It's the guys who get divorce raped, incarcerated for domestic non-violence, etc who have real beefs.

Those are all symptoms of the same problem. Rodgers was reacting to the problem.

[–]itwasntme19 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

those are the lucky few that found some poor desperate guy to marry them. most of them struggle to achieve this and live frustrated since they can no longer attract alpha cock. you can do better than these rachets, most of them are damaged goods with lots of baggage you don't want to deal with. leave them for the weak ones. there's lots great women out there, trust me.

[–]Offensive_Brute -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Funny enough, I realized I didn't care about this about half way through the second paragraph of this post. Thank you.

[–]willtopower2014 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

You could've been born in North Korea.

I could dream. I'm in the multikultural shithole that is the United States. DPRK looks pretty good right now.

[–]Mardoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that's what we like to hear, you're now a mod in /r/pyongyang