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Been watching a bunch of shows from when I was younger. Friends, The Office, Scrubs, Parks and Rec, 30 Rock and Seinfeld. Seinfeld seemed to be the only show not having a man chase a woman. I could not finish Scrubs and am having a hard time with season 7 of the Office. I remember taking mental notes when I was younger about how the men treated the women. It seemed to make sense. Be nice to them and they’ll like you just like John Dorian and Elliot. Friend zone is just a temporary holding place. Ask Jim Halpert!

Now watching it makes me cringe after learning about TRP. Thought watching these shows would be a nice trip through my high school and college years. Really it’s making me mad thinking about all the women I did this “friends first” BS to and with.

Anyone else experiencing this when watching older shows (or newer shows example: Big Bang Theory)? What shows are other examples of beta promoting?

Seinfeld seems to be the only show that I could watch without cringing. Jerry had it right.


[–][deleted] 123 points124 points  (0 children)

Now you have more time to be doing other important things!

[–]AntiSharp 59 points60 points  (4 children)

Big time on the Big Bang theory. The women run the guys’ lives. And they display a lot of masculine behaviors that really irk me

[–]redpill_quest 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Big upvote. I was watching yesterday how Raj caught his to-be wife hugging and greeting her ex and he was the jackass for doing that and he had to apologize in the end.

Or Stuart from the comic book store who didn't want to move with his gf and his was the jackass for not wanting.

The most alpha character might as well be Sheldon whose harsh behaviors towards women are labeled as autism.

Utter display of the female imperative.

[–]LesNoah 1 points1 points [recovered]

Lol the fuck watches the Big Bang theory anyway? Fucking shit unfunny show for spastics

[–]TFWnoLTR 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Women watch it

[–]Gobraves44 44 points45 points  (5 children)

Jerry was alpha as fuc’. Glad you noticed this too

[–]Jsieijejeieokkd 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Agree, he was always spinning a plate or two. Even George was who he was and did not make apologies for it. Kramer too, he banged that shit, Newman dated models! Elaine was a different than AWALT, more of a man’s attitude. How many exes can you still be friend with? Very few.

[–]GucciGangBucks 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I love the scene where Jerry gets broken up with and the girl takes him back for being Alpha about it. Dialogue goes likes this

Girl: I’m breaking up with you. Jerry: it’s fine. Girl: what? It’s fine?!? Jerry: yea, I do this kind of thing often. I’ll find another girl. Girl: confused and mad. Jerry: have a nice day.

Girl eventually takes him back without Jerry even wanting to get back together.

[–]vtagler 10 points11 points  (2 children)

[–]GandMeChattri 4 points5 points  (0 children)

that's gold Jerry!

[–]GucciGangBucks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmao that’s the one. Fucking phenomenal.

[–]Bing_Bang_Bam 67 points68 points  (1 child)

Society watches too much tv. Keeps the herd placated.

[–]marcus8crassus 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This. Heavy television consumption and self-actualization are not synonymous.

[–]latinasonly 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I have a good laugh when I watch “BETA” stuff on TV. And I can spot the beta behavior and characters right off . But when I was more amateur - unfortunately I tended to believe what I saw on TV cause it all seemed to make sense and workout in the end. Part of the reason TV and movies have frustrated love where a dude had to “win over a girl “ is because there would be no story line if the girl was immediately all over the guy .

[–]pickyourselfupman -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When I was younger, I’d watch those and think “I don’t get any of this and why it gets the girl,” and it all seemed just so soft and weak, but I was like “I guess I really just don’t get females yet, but I guess it works.”

[–]MemeroniPeperoni 17 points18 points  (3 children)

It's Always Sunny gets it right

[–]Jsieijejeieokkd 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Amen

[–]FrankCostanza111 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Got my giant condoms for my magnum dong!

[–]Jsieijejeieokkd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Other than the last episode of the latest season.

[–]SKRedPill 12 points13 points  (2 children)

First rule of awakening, stop watching retarded shit.

[–]disgruntledearthling 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah but sometimes there's no hockey on the tube...

[–]DigitalDragonSlayer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then you play hockey

[–]orangebudd 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Big Bang Theory is just a big cringe after TRP.

Still funny to see howard's trying the peakock theory.

[–]Nib-q 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I understand, the cringe makes them funnier to me now. Kind of like when you try to tell a character in a horror movie to run.

[–]dtyler86 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Watched Swingers the other night on Prime or Netflix, one or the other. Unbelievable illustration of beta and alpha mentality. Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau. Not even so much that Vince is the ultimate alpha, but favreau is so beta in such realistically sickening ways.

[–]WeddingCrasher91 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I remember David deangelo made a reference to Vince Vaughn as a good example of how one should be cocky and funny. The other reference is Tom Cruise from Top Gun

[–]eccentricrealist 1 point2 points  (2 children)

David Deangelo, now that's a classic name I haven't heard in a while

[–]WeddingCrasher91 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Last i read about him, his fans were dissing him for marrying an ugly wife. Check his new programs

[–]eccentricrealist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A Bill Burr sort of situation I see, I'll check it out

[–]ConservativeAndCheap 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Completely get it. Sometimes remnants of BP mentaility come back for a second when watching them too. I remember watching Kim Possible and Ron finally got her in the end 😂

[–]frequentlywrong 8 points9 points  (11 children)

What shows are other examples of beta promoting?

Easier to list which ones are not. Almost all of them are beta promoting, it makes losers who watch that shit feel better.

[–]mnsmon 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Do you have examples for RP shows?

[–]1jacques_cousteau007 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Rules of Engagement is close

There’s two married couples, and a single guy (David Spade)

The younger married couple are newlyweds...beta-ish, but hot wife that has a history riding the carousel before settling down with main character

The older married couple (Patrick Warburton) is Alpha-ish, with the husband having traits of the traditional American husband, high SMV that just wants to grab a beer and watch the game.

of fucking course, the single guy is Red Pill as fuck with what he speaks,but the show handicaps his character with low SMV and paints him as a slimy guy chasing tail all day.

[–]_do_not_read_this_ 0 points1 point  (6 children)

"Longmire"

[–]disgruntledearthling 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Not a sitcom, but yeah I liked Longmire for his stoicism and individuality. I'm surprised this series doesn't get more mentioned.

Peaky Blinders is another drama series with many RP characters, although the main one wavers a bit. Some claim he's BP because he get oneitis for his wife but I see it as an RP man making a decision about his life partner and trying to deal with the consequences of what happens after.

[–]_do_not_read_this_ 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I mean, if we're talking drama, "24" amiright?

No small coincidence, a lot of the same producers, cast and crew from "Longmire" (Start Trek series "Enterprise" too but Capt. Archer can be a bit of a Beta sometimes).

[–]disgruntledearthling 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Cool - didn't know about the production links... I tried '24' when it first came out but I found it too melodramatic...

Another cool series to watch is the Archer animation, as well as Bigmouth.

[–]_do_not_read_this_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The middle "24"s are best, as they hit their stride.

Way ahead of you on "Archer". "Bigmouth" is hilarious, original, and borderline CP but ((they)) produce it so it's okay.

[–]_do_not_read_this_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't have the cable so I don't know "Peaky"

I don't see commitment to a partner as inherently BP. You can gain so much spiritually and emotionally by going deep with someone, getting to know them and allowing them into your life.

As the saying goes, you can go deep, or you can go wide, but you can't do both.

[–]disgruntledearthling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Peaky can be seen on Netflix. I agree on the 'deep' part. But the difference between RP and BP going deep is the RP man maintains a lifeline to reality... just in case

[–]SalporinRP 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The Sopranos for drama...

Curb Your Enthusiasm for comedy. Curb might be a bit debatable but it's just such a funny show and the main character gets into so many terrible social scenarios because he just speaks his mind no matter what.

[–]I_Dont_Type 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watching the Sopranos now and it's great. All the men on the show are complete alphas. Tony just can't stop spinning plates

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

try watching modern family, you will actually die

[–]slicklol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This! Among other things the fact that Claire rode the cock carousel hardcore before locking down the beta buxxxx with Phil.

[–]Lorddevonshire 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I still love Seinfeld, most TV shows and movies I just can't watch anymore. It's been years since I have had TV in my house for years now. Still have some favorites though. I prefer to spend time doing other things now.

[–]SalporinRP 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah because Seinfeld is actually well-written unlike so much of the shit on TV.

That's why Curb Your Enthusiasm is so great as well. The writing behind it is fantastic.

[–]shinywhitedarkness 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Watch "You" on Netflix. Biggest blue pill stalker guy and female nature are perfectly displayed there.

[–]WeddingCrasher91 2 points3 points  (2 children)

This. The female nature was spot on. I got low mad about how they glorified that CC riding slooot

[–]INNASKILLZ2K18 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I watched some of this last week. Holy fuck, I was like 'how beta is this moron'? Talk about serious oneitis and putting on a pedestal. I still don't get why he just didn't ask her out in the beginning...instead of kidnapping dudes,

[–]shinywhitedarkness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Best parts in my opinion is when Beck talks about her first kiss, how one (emotional guy) tried to hook up with her in the theaters but she didn't kiss him but his friend Chad (!!) a week later.

I don't quite remember it well but she asked Joe if he did that to all female friends and he answered somewhat along the lines that he has an harem of women.

Somehow I think the storywriter is partly redpill aware and implemented the stalker to show off female nature, that Joe's blue pill love (stalking+doing the best for her) is deemed to fail.

[–]aanarchist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most of the humor is done at a man's expense, and the women tend to be extremely dysfunctional. I used to love everybody loves raymond as a kid but then realized post trp that his relationship with his mother was extremely toxic, and his relationship with his wife was extremely toxic too, and his brother ironically the only reason they had issues with each other was because their mother essentially pitted them against each other so they would compete for her love. Deep down she understands she is insufferable. I also realized that they try to control your perception of what is humorous and what is not with laugh on cues built into the show. It abuses social proof since someone who is not game aware and has a solid frame of their own, will likely laugh when others laugh even when it's not funny. It's all psych 101 that they peddle to ignorant masses and it's absolutely vile. I don't laugh at people's jokes anymore just to go along to get along, I laugh if it genuinely is funny or if it's someone I like(because he earned my respect on an individual level, not because he has social proof), naturally I will be more receptive to whatever it is they have to offer.

[–]traveling_introvert 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The saving grace of Married with Children is the fact that the entire cast were buffoons. The only character with any sense was the dog.

But yeah, I see it too. Even Dr Heathcliff Huxtable was a bit of a doofus compared to Claire.

[–]FalcioValMond 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The firsts seasons of two men and a half are still good though

[–]chlorellamanna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha Seinfeld is the only show I can stand to watch as well, although I can't help but chuckle when you see some of the women George gets with.

Frasier is a decent show to watch, I learn a lot of vocabulary through that show.

[–]actualimprovement145 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Big Bang Theory at it's best. Nerds can't get the women by being nice. Only after years of chasing. Meanwhile Penny fucks the swole guys but they are all displayed as extremely stupid. Perfectly displaying the Disney fantasy where women fall for the weak chaser after a long time of him trying. Some truth to it though, as they all approaching the wall and settle for a provider.

Btw, you might want to check out the Youtube channel of the Turkish female actor, forgot the name (Mayim) or something. Feminism at it's best.

Ah, found it: https://youtu.be/qHH3lhYwqcY

[–]WeddingCrasher91 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Watch peaky blinders. That Thomas Shelby is as redpilled and alpha as one can get. Not interested much in the plot, the only reason i watched it is to see that guy act and talk

[–]bf1bro18 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yeah dude. In my country Australia there is this show called Home & Away that consists of a dozen or so young girls and young guys who live in this fictional town and go through breakups and maturity. It's so far from reality. The way they portray guys chasing, and talking to women to impress them makes my skin shiver with cringe. Then you got the "oldies" of the town who chime in at non ideal times to share wisdom to the "young ones" by encouraging the guys to just keep trying with her because she is worth it, or for the girls to give him another chance even though their heart isn't in it. Throw in some bikini beach scenes and implied sexual frustration and that's the show for you. Oh and lots of nosy people, nosy people everywhere.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I ignore romance queues in all media and manage to enjoy it.

It's good reminders, which is why I'm subscribed to the nice guys sub.

Don't be like them.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Tv shows. And movies. And music. Basically any form of entertainment and media that are not directed solely at men, since the 60s.

Remember securing beta providing is part of women’s sexual strategy, so all entertainment that partly caters to women includes a portrayal of the dependable beta provider. The mistake of western men since then is to have fooled themselves into adopting that portrayal as the “correct” approach to getting women.

[–]disgruntledearthling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My workout music is hard-core gangsta rap from the 90's. Fuck that stuff is raw RP

[–]serve_my_goddess 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Get rid of your tv. I havent had one for years. Im glad I have no idea what youre talking about. Finally, ignorance truly is bliss haha

[–]BloodSurgery 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Skins is quite realistic at least. One of the main characters is a straight up RP dude

[–]ainihon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Not a sit but “Vikings” is pretty masculine fucks whoever he wants does whatever he wants

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If nothing else the show is at least just bad ass and fun to watch. The MC does fantastic acting as well. Speaks mostly through his eyes and his actions instead of words.

[–]fds_1 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Yes... I bought a bunch of Dostoyevsky's book including White Nights. Reading it was such a fucking cringe fest for me... The main character is like the most beta guy ever but at least it enforces red pill more. He likes a girl, she sees him as a friend and is in love with her neighbor who left but told her he'd marry her. After the neighbor doesn't show up she tells the main guy she loves him. That same night the neighbor appears and in the second she leaves the main guy.

[–]_do_not_read_this_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Download 'em for free to your reader:

https://www.epubbooks.com/author/fyodor-dostoyevsky

[–]fds_1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nahh I prefer the real thing. I read self improvement books on my phone and other books irl

[–]SalporinRP 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah but that kinda is the whole point of the story. To not waste time on unrequited love.

It's essentially a cautionary tale, which isn't BP in my opinion.

[–]fds_1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Enhh, in the end the main guy say's something like:"I will not take revenge and I will come to your wedding." now if that ain't a beta move I don't know what is. I agree that he took things out of proportions but I can see my old beta self eating that shit up and saying something like:"She did him so wrong. Man she's a fucking bitch. He was such a nice guy."

[–]Duzand 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I re-watched some of The Office and realized how much I hate Jim. He's a smug asshole who ridicules everyone around him and thinks he's above them. I actually respect the Dwight character more, at least he's interesting and true to himself.

My least favorite character is Raymond from "Everybody Loves Raymond." Spineless wimp.

[–]_the_golden_rule_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jim's the perfect example of a big fish in a small pond. The moment he's out of his element, his ego crumbles.

[–]medoff 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What are some examples of red pill tv shows/movies? I like Mad Men because even tho Don Draper had some weak moments, for the most part he did what he wanted when it came to women.

[–]red_matrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever watched Deadwood?

[–]rubenescaray 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How I Met Your Mother is the worst.

[–]cringworthycomment 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Married With Children is still gold. Al has got his wife crawling for his attention, and he only sells shoes, because No Mam.

[–]GandMeChattri 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I can't believe this but this is bang on.

I've see and enjoyed perhaps 100+ sitcoms, form the good ones to the utter crap ones. I just loved watching sitcoms during my beta phase.

I don't see even one sitcom anymore. I am repulsed by it now.

Didn't realise it until I saw this post. Damn.

[–]koldkillah83[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed.

[–]Casd12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watch peaky blinders instead

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

What wrong with The Office? Pretty RP w/ alpha males like Dwight (DKS)

(and crazy women like Jan)

[–]fizztea 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Dwight is not a alpha nor a beta he is a purple pill guy, when Angela broke up with him he was crying for her.

[–]slicklol 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Did you see how quickly he bounced back? And became even more of a bad ass.

Can you not cry over a woman as RP? I didn't know we all became absolute robots by getting pilled.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've noticed it too. Heck, I keep noticing it in almost every tv series/movies.

[–]wholewheatdirtydog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always knew Joey was a Chad

[–]ibiki101 0 points1 point  (1 child)

barney on how i met your mother

[–]Seoul_Brother 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They chalked this up to him having parent issues and being broken hearted and Barney was still pretty beta behind the act. Still, the surface level way he was wasn’t too bad.

[–]_do_not_read_this_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wash your eyes out with "Longmire" on Netflix.

I'm surprised that show even got made.

[–]disgruntledearthling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True that. The depiction of his daughter is so 'female'.

[–]menial_optimist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The worst one for this is 'Everybody Loves Raymond', Ray Romano is such a weakling beta-cuck it physically sickened me many years ago and I wasn't even aware of the redpill at the time. The only time I witnessed that garbage is when I visiting my friend who would turn it on while we ate supper or something. Even then I couldn't believe the clear dynamic of 'ray the stupid idiot husband' vs 'wife the beautiful and reluctant responsible pants-wearer of the family'.

[–]Seoul_Brother 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, I still like watching rom coms and dot coms once in a while. It’s nice fantasy porn once in a while. You just gotta separate the idea that these things are true. Cooking shows are where it’s at though. Gives me ideas on how to make my food taste better and Gordon Ramsay straight telling at people is hilarious. But I like post apocalyptic shows like walking dead. At least a lot of the villains are alpha.

[–]empathdx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to see a clear example of open Hypergamy and Beta Promotion, watch The Detour on Hulu/TBS. Funniest show ive seen in a long time, but TRP completely unmasks the open truth of how hypergamous the mom is and how beta the dad is. It’s crazy they try to sell you this stuff. Hilarious show, but don’t follow the guy’s example.

[–]Olram_Sacul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of my favorite TV series ever is Banshee (alongside with The Wire). It's the only one I have watched 3 times and I used to think that the main character is the Apex of Alpha males. After TRP I realised that he has a terrible oneitis for a woman who betrayed him and a huge white knight complex. Anyways I really recommend it, the guy is a bad ass and most of the time he has this cool IDGAF attitude about the world. Still one of my favorite shows.

I may need to watch The Wire for the 3rd time, this one after TRP. I used to like Marlo very much, a tough-ass mutherfucker

[–]red_matrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seinfeld holds up well. Even today Seinfeld seems to be pretty red-pilled. At least he won’t bow to the PC police

[–]The_other_bj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THIS!!!!

[–]vtagler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The other day caught the Friends episode where Chandler finds out Janice was cheating with her ex.

Proceeds to give her the ultimatum of if she wants to be with her ex or him.

I was in awe

[–]_the_golden_rule_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TRP does live up to its name, I've found. Yeah.

[–]wentzach 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Has anyone said Mad Men? Don Is a very complex and troubled character but still holds frame. Plus the show is very well written.

[–]koldkillah83[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone mentioned it earlier and yes I’d agree