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Is the Gillette video racist? (self.asktrp)

submitted by sealift

Anyone else notice that the first 0:45 was mostly Caucasian males doing "the wrong thing," and the last part was black dudes white knighting? I almost couldn't believe the blatant difference there.


[–]peaceful_strong_man 69 points70 points  (43 children)

Yes, of course. It was full of white shaming. Dad bod whites, and blacks in good shape. Blacks mainly the hero and a well-built black dad with his daughter being a good guy (the irony, looking at single mother households for blacks). Another well-built BLACK MAN defending a WOMAN from a WHITE MAN. You don’t see a white man defending a woman from a black man. (Black on white sexual crime way more rampant than you would imagine, by the way). Terry Crews speaking out... It’s all part of the agenda. You think feminism is the only one?!

[–]sealift[S] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Haha yea TC, at least we still have Old Spice..right?

[–]Paralegallyblonde 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Both are owned by Procter & Gamble, actually.

[–]Turkerthelurker 3 points4 points  (1 child)

And since it keeps coming up- no, dollar shave club is no better, its owned by unilever.

[–]Paralegallyblonde -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Never would have guessed that! I’m pretty loyal to Dove (Unilever) for certain things but I actually like Dove’s recent marketing campaigns and their commitment to portraying “real” women of various shapes/colors, imo it was well done.

[–]latinasonly 6 points7 points  (27 children)

as the demographics of the USA change , the faces shown in the media and in politics must represent this change to keep the population happy, as such we are seeing more colored people being presented positively in movies and whatnot .

" white shaming " - society may have a procolored people rhetoric , but the reality remains that whites dominate the economy . havent we all on the Red pill heard this one " look at peoples actions not their words."

[–]dtyler86 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Okay okay.. as much as I agree with 99% of your and others’ comments here, referring to black people as colored is the sort of archaic nomenclature that gets subs like TRP trolled and blocked. I’m partially laughing and partially wondering where you’re from

[–]JohnArrrgh 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I get your point. Colored is now in the same category as Oriental, something a 75 year old guy who means no harm says. But I always laugh when I hear People of Color and it is considered the height of PC, when it literally means those people are colored.

[–]dtyler86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha yep. So people of color is cool But “colored” screams racism? This world is off the rails 🙄

[–]peaceful_strong_man 0 points1 point  (17 children)

The child faces at the end were 2 whites, one black and one mongoloid (asian). Yet white people are more than that in the country. So many black heroes, yet blacks cause proportionally 90%+ of violent crime. If you want a country that is not "dominated by whites" go to Africa or Asia. Oh wait... those arent usually that advanced and nice, so you/they will stay here and complain.

[–]latinasonly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my argument is: media and politics may feature (or even emphasize, as you are suggesting) colored people , but the economy is run by whites, thereby in practice , whites dominate american society.

i am not complaining, only putting things for what they are (redpill anyone). YOU are the one complaining.

[–]ramokaly 1 points1 points [recovered]

When the criminal is muslim, it’s the fucking terrorist muslims and their religion. But when the criminal is white non-muslim, he’s just mentally ill yet white Americans and Europeans cause 90%+ of violent war crimes all over the world.

My point is, most people have double and triple standards.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 2 points3 points  (10 children)

And yet all the black and brown dudes want to emigrate to white countries, first chance they get.

When you see migrant armies of white people clamoring to emigrate to Congo, Somalia or Venezuela, let us know.

[–]MisterDSTP 1 point2 points  (7 children)

You mean those countried ravaged by the war and violence at the hands of governments of predominantly white nations?

Oh just checking.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (6 children)

No I mean the countries that had to be taught to wipes their own asses, and only got indoor plumbing and universities when white nations showed up with them.....you can only blame other people for your problems for so long. In the long run, it doesn't help.

[–]MisterDSTP 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Victims of the bubonic plague in Europe died simply because they didn't wash their hands before eating, in effect helping to spread the disease.

The jews, who "mysteriously" weren't getting the disease, suggested that they wash their hands before eating and instead they were blamed and scapegoated.

I could get into a race flame war with you but i recognize your hurt. And i feel bad for you. Ive never blamed anyone for anything. Not even sure what the blame would be but here you are accusing me of it.

So i'll leave you to continue this conversation you're having with yourself.

I wish you well...and more plates. Cheers

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Hurt? Like our liberal friends you project. I simply have higher expectations for people, including dark people. You've finally mastered indoor plumbing, not stop killing each other and join us in the sunlit uplands....

[–]MisterDSTP 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You're fragile, mate. Just relax and go about your day.

[–]ramokaly -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You totally missed the point. Only strong, advanced and dominant people/nations (whites right now) have the luxury to condemn and blame other minorities for problems they themselves cause and crimes they commit.

[–]Turkerthelurker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What the actual fuck are you talking about.

[–]DownyGall -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol what? Whites cause 90%+ of violent war crimes?

[–]peaceful_strong_man 1 points1 points [recovered]

You people? I'm Muslim, you retarded marxist.

[–]ramokaly 1 points1 points [recovered]

Learn to read you fucking dickhead.

[–]sealift[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want nothing more than for everyone to be judged solely on "content of their character, not by the color of their skin." (MLK Jr.) Therefore, I want to be judged by my character, not because *shocker* I'm a white dude.

[–]AnitaSnarkeysian 0 points1 point  (4 children)

but the reality remains that whites dominate the economy

Whites, Jewish, and Asians have an average IQ greater than 100, while Latino's and Natives and half black half white have an avg IQ around 92, and Black Americans have an average IQ of 85.

The most common blue pill on this is "I know a black guy who is smarter than me, therefor statistics don't matter", which is bullshit. I am not a democrat, but I have no problem admitting that Barack Obama most likely has a higher IQ than I do, even though I am white. That's just the way the bell curve works, even though it tells you a lot about the group as an aggregate, it tells you nothing about the individual.

However, as soon as you say something like "whites dominate the economy" you have initiated a position where you are talking about aggregate groups, not individuals, in which case, I feel it's only appropriate to remind you of the red pill that blacks have an aggregate IQ that is a full standard deviation below whites, and that only about 1 in 9 blacks have an IQ above 100, while 1 in 2 whites have an IQ above 100. Naturally, this biological difference is going to mean that whites will always outperform blacks in a society based on intellectual meritocracy. And yes, let me be clear, this is a biological difference, not a cultural one. If you doubt that then I have a business plan for you to become a millionaire. In the past 50 years, countless people, many of whom are smarter than you and I have been trying to find a test that would erase the black/white IQ gap. They've tried everything from having a test constructed by only Sub-Saharan Africans create the test, to having all black teachers administer the test, to only having a test based on symbols and shapes, to having black students create the test... and none of these tens of thousands of attempts have succeeded.

The second blue pill is that "the flynn effect means we're all getting smarter", even though the flynn effect hasn't been a thing for whites since the 70's and hasn't been a thing for blacks since the 90's. Once you get to a point where you are shitting once per day, your body is (usually) getting all of the nutrition that it needs to develop to it's maximum potential. White IQ has actually dropped by 2 points, largely because the race is self-reported and as we mix with hispanics (who have an average IQ of 92) the hispanic whites still call themselves "white" but have an average IQ of about 97 while the full-european whites have an IQ of 102. The overall IQ of America is falling as we continue to let lower IQ groups in.

By denying the scientific reality behind race and IQ, and instead asserting the faith based narrative that IQ magically evolved the same in all human subgroups, you support the narrative that the only reason some subgroups under-preform is because of some kind of evil malevolence committed by the groups that outperform the others. It's inherently an unfair attack on higher IQ groups. Whites, as an aggregate, are not mistreating blacks. In fact, on the contrary, whites are usually mistreating other whites by calling the other whites evil without any actual cause.

I end on this, do you hate everyone who can't score as high on an IQ test as you? Are all of your friends smarter than you, or are you capable of being friends with someone, even if you think that you are smarter than them? If you don't hate others despite being smarter than them, then don't accuse others of automatically hating people who aren't as smart as they are. No one is saying "black people have a biological cognitive difference that makes them have a significantly lower IQ than whites, therefor we need to hate them". It's not about hate. I don't hate people who got lower grades than me, and you don't either. It's an absurd belief. I'm not calling for anything bad to happen to any group, nor am I saying that these groups shouldn't come here. I am only saying that if you are are going to take whites as an aggregate and assert that whites dominate American society, that it's only fair for me to take blacks as an aggregate and remind you that our society is based on intellectual meritocracy, and blacks as an aggregate have an avg IQ that is a full standard deviation below whites, and it's biological, not cultural. Whites aren't holding blacks back.

[–]latinasonly -1 points0 points  (3 children)

750 words later - the reality remains that whites dominate the economy

reddit has people a whole standard deviation below average in terms of social intellegince .

[–]AnitaSnarkeysian -1 points0 points  (2 children)

plugging your ears and ignoring the data... lol, enjoy denial

[–]latinasonly -1 points0 points  (1 child)

i dont cary to deny or acknowledge your "data" , you went ranting on a ridiculous tangent that did nothing to disprove any of my previous assertions

[–]AnitaSnarkeysian -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The intent wasn't to disprove your assertions, the intent was to add to the conversation and to establish that whites are disproportionately wealthy and "on top" in society because we have a meritocracy based largely on intellectual ability. As individuals, this doesn't mean much, but as an aggregate group (which is what you wanted to talk about since you said "whites dominate the economy", it makes a big difference.

If you don't like talking about aggregate group differences, then don't talk about aggregate group differences, but if you do want to talk about "whites" as an aggregate group, then maybe don't get all butthurt when someone adds more data to the aggregation.

[–]mseand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think about the scenes that showed guys doing pickup?

As an aPUA it kind of struck me in such a negative way. I always make my pickups seem acceptable and that's why I get more positive feedback than negative from girls but those cuts made pickup look so bad

[–]peaceful_strong_man 11 points12 points  (0 children)

White man bad. Beard man bad.

[–]MindlessCalendar 39 points40 points  (10 children)

I don't know if you can call it 'racist', but they definitely did it on purpose and tried to be as PC/leftist as possible.

[–]93125 30 points31 points  (8 children)

Imagine if the races were reversed how it would be viewed.

[–]Kpwn88 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Imagine if the races were reversed

Reverse racism isn't real, goy.

[–]ramokaly 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Not to be racist but it’s really funny when jews condemn racism.

[–]peaceful_strong_man 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Jews are definitely not behind this, goy.

[–]Kpwn88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, of course not. That would be silly.

[–]MisterDSTP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be viewed like every other thing put out by the media over the last couple decades.

No imagination required.

[–]terra502 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that is called “racist.” Undeniably.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 13 points14 points  (0 children)

always trust your gut

[–]Blakrov 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Minorities can't be rasscist don't be ridiculous, only white man

[–]2stoned0jaguar9tre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Im hispanic and i sure do hate me some ignorant motherfuckers.

[–]Manilatimes 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Isnt white a minority world wide?

[–]Turkerthelurker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. Take a peak at whats happening in South Africa.

[–]peaceful_strong_man 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ayo hol up... you finna tell me dat we can’t be racist?! Das tight!

[–]peaceful_strong_man 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also another thing to note is that the only time the black guys were the bad guys (arguing/starting a fight) it was a black guy breaking up the argument/fight, not a white guy. And it was a group with only black guys. No white hero. White man bad.

[–]Rosace_89 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yes, but in the approved direction

[–]ZhmaoZao 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I noticed it too. Why do minorities suddenly have to be society's conscience or the voices of wisdom? And that first guy only ever rubber necked, he didn't do anything.

[–]Lego_My_Alter_Eggo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it's not that simple. You might even be able to make the case that It's trying to influence black viewer's psychology by showing them strong role models that they might want to emulate. In that sense it could be seen as racist but in the opposite direction (implying they need these role models more). It's well known in marketing that showing people positive representations of themselves using your product or acting in a way you want them to act is an effective way to get them to emulate those actions and buy your product. If anything, it's good to show black people these strong, well adjusted black men because black viewers are in need of strong male role models given their higher rate of absent fathers.

[–]Kpwn88 6 points7 points  (2 children)

You been living under a rock? The anti-white narrative has been on overdrive for the past decade. The ruling class wants to establish a world government. Kinda hard to do that when there are multiple different ethnicities with unique cultures with their own beliefs and lifestyles.

Just carry on and marry your daughters off to black men so the world can see how not racist you are.

[–]peaceful_strong_man 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Oy vey! Shut it down! Red pill is only feminism and female nature and we must fornicate all day. That's red pil!! Not worrying about a world government that is already enslaving us by putting us in human farms (cities), taxing us, destroying our agriculture and feeding us pesticide and plant-based, genetically engineered crap. The government and media are totally not lying about wars, science, the space program, evolution, 9/11, nutrition. Only about feminism and male/female dynamics, you beta male simp blue-piller!

[–]Velebit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Israel birthrate is doing very well.

[–]WithItOrOnIt 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Who gives a shit. Are you OFFENDED ? The best thing you can do concerning ads, is literally ignoring them.

[–]Original_Dankster 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Well - ads do impact our lives indirectly and over time. Repeated often enough, with the same themes in multiple ads, over the course of years, the eventual result is societal shift, and changing cultural mores. That shift is detrimental to our interests as men (and particularly detrimental to white heterosexual men).

So it's not just that one could be offended - we can objectively look at this and say "this is part of an ongoing threat to my interests."

[–]DownyGall 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ads are also indicative of what is "acceptable" and what the ruling class wants. Corporations don't like to rock the boat. You can say that Gillette rocked the boat, but they obviously thought this through and believed that pissing off a bunch of conservatives or traditionalists was less important than getting PC points with the establishment.

Another good ad example is always race mixing, which is not prevalent at all. The vast majority of do not even like to date outside their race never mind have a kid or marry. Meanwhile you see that in ads all the time.

[–]WithItOrOnIt 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ignore them.

[–]KobayashiDragonSlave 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Having discussions about social and cultural phenomenons is a part of an healthy society.

[–]WithItOrOnIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is what we are having right now. What I'm saying is ads are meant to trigger an emotional reaction. By not acknowledge them, their agenda is not transcending. So no, nothing new to that specific ad. Ads are shit test.

[–]sealift[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'm triggered bruh!

[–]Rosace_89 1 point2 points  (1 child)

don't worry OP, this is a safe male space subreddit

[–]theDudeFlyz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

yeah, until we are quarantined too

[–]WithItOrOnIt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should tweet about it. Show them

[–]MisterDSTP 2 points3 points  (16 children)

Funny because for decades it's been the opposite and the majority of Americans never acknowledged it and even denied it.

I agree the agenda is obvious and annoying. But it is funny seeing white people blowing a gasket about things oppressed people have been enduring for basically ever.

[–]Kurush559 4 points5 points  (1 child)

My thoughts exactly. I still think there are more important matters here. The attack on masculinity isn't a problem for white men or black men or purple men, its a problem for all of us - don't let them divide and conquer

[–]MisterDSTP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. That's my biggest gripe about these kinds of topics.. the divisive aspects of it. People get personally hurt by it and retaliate with broad strokes.

[–]DownyGall 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Uh, because they've been the majority for decades and a supermajority even longer. I wouldn't feel offended if I went to Japan and all the ads had Japanese people.

[–]MisterDSTP 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Except the racial representation of non-whites in mainstream media never matched the actual diversity that existed within the culture.

Even the representation of the KINDS of white people were lacking.

Comparing Japanese culture to American culture is just silly and doesn't make any sense at all... Nice try with the analogy though.

[–]DownyGall 1 point2 points  (7 children)

There have been plenty of black shows over the years and extremely popular ones at that. And what KINDS of white people have been lacking?

[–]MisterDSTP -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Yes, there have been popular black shows and Black movies, etc. But it still never matched the representation of the actual nation. Culturally nor statistically.

And the world is bigger than just blacks and whites. Where are the asians, south east asian, hispanic, middle eastern folks with their own show? Crazy rich asians was the first all asian cast movie backed by hollywood and that was just a few months ago.

Representation is onpy partyl the issue. The real issues come via prejudice casting practices like choosing light skinned and mulato blacks instead of darkskinned ones and "safe/corny negroes" instead of the "hip-hop thugs". Especially as it pertains to accolades and awards which translate into higher salaries for the individual performers.

If you're a teenager, like i suspect, you probably won't know what I'm talking about. But racial and cultural diversity in the mainstream is something very new and that's not debatable.

But to answer your question "LGBQT+ whites, disabled whites, average bodied whites, plus sized whites, traditionally unattractive whites, radical whites, white women?

I'm sure there's more but I'll leave that to someone white to verify.

[–]DownyGall 0 points1 point  (5 children)

“If you’re a teenager, like I suspect” LOL way to patronize.

[–]MisterDSTP -1 points0 points  (4 children)

So you're verifying your youth?

[–]DownyGall 0 points1 point  (3 children)

No I’m saying you’re being patronizing and you’re just parroting Lefty talking points about inclusion in media. You’re clearly deep down the Lefty rabbit hole so what’s the point of debating you!

[–]MisterDSTP 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I've answered all your questions, carefully responded to all of your outlandish statements and raised many valid points that you've ignored completely.

And this is the best response you have. Kill your ego.

Cheers, youngster.

[–]DownyGall -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Whatever dude, keep hating white people!

[–]Velebit 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Retard, white owners of the company told their white board members to pay white creatives to make an anti white ad hiring white actors for it.

This is not what 'oppressed people' have happen, this is a self destructive move.

[–]Kpwn88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Retard, white jewish owners of the company told their white jewish board members to pay white jewish creatives to make an anti white ad hiring white actors for it.

FIFY

[–]terra502 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Did you think it was funny in previous years with your oppressed people? oh, only now then. right. you’re a racist, next.

[–]MisterDSTP -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Man shut your cry baby ass up.

[–]Kpwn88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You were Born Guilty

[–]imtheoneimmortal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not because you need validation so you are cool if others say it’s racist then ok it’s racist

[–]Velebit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The day of rope is comming.

[–]D0ngl3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When Hitler did it, it was called Propaganda. But if you're selling razors? Well, that's progress!

[–]grod_greenvest[🍰] -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

You noticed color, I noticed dudes.

[–]bleach68 1 point2 points  (0 children)

300 IQ

[–]peaceful_strong_man 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Buy some glasses and dont call yourself red-pilled, because you are not.

[–]grod_greenvest[🍰] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your opinion doesn't matter here. Only a blue pill would take offense.

[–]MisterDSTP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very manly of you.

[–]JadeHelm2015 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its hate speech, there should be prosecutions of Gilette exexutives.

[–]Rasheediscool -1 points0 points  (9 children)

Yes the one instance of this happening. How many shows and movies always have the black guy has the violent thing, rapper, criminal, etc and the white guy have to come save the day.

You're reaching hard with this one

[–]Velebit 0 points1 point  (8 children)

70% of murder is done by a 3% demographic of 18-65 year old african american males. Almost all muggings are done by black and brown people.

Most crime reports mention black and brown people, and are done by black and brown people who live near other black and brown people. Same is in every country, with and without USA history.

You can scream racis racis you can smash your fists on the walls, but nothing you do will change reality.

[–]Rasheediscool 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I wasn't arguing that. I know that minorites commit alot if those crimes and Meek Mill actually was on CNN and gave a good explanation on why that happens.

But the point I wasn't making it that even in Hollywood blacks are always seen always portrayed as the bad guy, and nobody says shit. The second a white man is seen as a bad guy in a freaking Gillette commercial of all things it's a major problem. Sounds like bullshit

[–]Velebit 0 points1 point  (6 children)

It happens because of different biology. Read what acclaimed nobel prize winner James Watson, or Charles Murray and Sam Harris write.

I don't ever remember blacks being portrayed as bad. Only african american comedies portray blacks realistically.

Because whites and asians are mostly peaceful, respectful and conformist. Portraying a basketball team full of eskimos is as idiotic as portraying whites as being 'the source or the manpower' behind most of societal nastiness.

No, it is black and brown.

There was a idiotic backclash when 'walking 10 hours in ' x city showed almost all harassment is by black and brown men. Stop this egalitarian, problem is nurture idea. It is a lie.

[–]MisterDSTP -3 points-2 points  (5 children)

Bruh was waiting for this gillette ad just to bring his his trusty statistics out of the stash. Smh Bunch of hurt bois ITT

[–]Velebit 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Not an argument.

[–]MisterDSTP -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

You're right ight. Idk why the woman wasted 10 hours walking through the poorest neighborhoods in new york city to prove her point.

She could have saved a few hours by just walking through the nearest white collar corporate office.

But you're right. It is biology. And you're biologically pre-disposed to life as an incel.

[–]Velebit -1 points0 points  (2 children)

If you think she would have gotten the same treatment from white office people you gotta be isolated from white people and jobless cuuuuuz.

I reject your evil wishes and return them back to you. Ight dindu?

[–]MisterDSTP -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Dont worry. Once you start getting some pussy youll start thinking more clearly. I got faith in you, bro. Keep trying.

[–]Velebit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol your simple mind reduces the subject of human race to 'getting some'. So basically once people have sex, complex issues and social problems become irrelevant. That is such a nigabrainfart. Typically african: the most sexually active population and the least socially developed in any way that word can be understood.

By that logic, Sam Harris (married w kids), Stefan Molyneux (married w kid), Charles Murray (married), James Watson (married w kids), Jarod Taylor (married w kids) and all other people of largely scientific backgrounds should be some incels or whatever

I know you lack ability to understand how stupid that is but that does not make it less ridiculous.

I am in finance. I get payed to allocate resources efficiently and locating them to low iq people is not an efficient use of resources.

[–]BurningOrangeHeaven -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Its probably just cuz - if i recall correctly - black people have high brand loyalty, so advertising to them is probably just more effective in terms of spending.

Also everything is being made into a "cuz im black" issue.

Im not black or white this is just my outside opinion.

[–]peaceful_strong_man -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah, no... Nooo... It’s part of the agenda.