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I asked an acquaintance of mine to get drinks. Texts went something like this,

"lets go sunday"
"Im busy sunday"
"When are you free then?"
"Next week"
"Lets go Tuesday"
(Obviously it was less robotic sounding than this but that's the jist of it"

Now she texts me, "Something might be coming up on Tuesday and I might have to bail, but were you just trying to fuck honestly or were you really trying to go out?"

This is definitely a shit test, but I've never been hit so blatantly with a girl straight up asking me if I'm just looking for sex, especially from one I barely know. So is the move here A&A? I was thinking "Whoa tiger slow down, who said anything about fucking?" or just not responding. What are your guys thoughts?


[–]donkeydodo91 points92 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

”Is sex the first thing you think of when I ask to see you?”

This is a pressure flip, if she starts to argue that she don’t and get slightly upset, you know that she is DTF, but shittests you. Just say that she was the one suggesting it, and laugh it off and switch her focus to something else

[–]mseand18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pressure flips are definitely something I have recently run into. This sounds pretty decent

[–]Senior Endorseddr_warlock14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

</thread> Anything else here is try-hard or mediocre.

[–]LiftBodyUpThenDown 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Really? This is the only way to handle this situation? Really? Why are you endorsed

[–]moltenw7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the only way to handle this situation? Really?

He never said it was, just that the other responses in the thread are, essentially, not as good.

[–]LiftBodyUpThenDown-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a better way of wording that idea. He said "anything else here," leaving endless possibilities.

[–]donkeydodo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not the only, but the best option presented so far

[–]ihateyouguys3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Any tips or resources on the pressure flip?

[–]donkeydodo4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A general pressure flip is when someone tests you and you just re-direct the focus basically; e.g. if your boss asks you why you haven’t moved a truck, you say you couldn’t because Mike didn’t give you the keys. You basically say that it’s someone else’s fault at hand for certain claim that is directed at you. A pressure flip is a counter that makes you like the Winner of whatever is going on

Anything that a girl says to you that seem somewhat negative or questioning of you, is probably a shittest. These things can be handled in a couple of ways, but imo the most affective one is pressure flip. To be good at pressure flipping, you need to have a bit silver tongue. You have to counter anything thrown at you, in the best of worlds with wit. A girl who you know for a 100% is dtf, might say ’I don’t want to have sex with you’ just when you’re dressing her off, a bold pressure flip her is answering ’who’s gonna stop me’ while staring inte her eyes. This is taunting and displays assertion, which is attractive to women (note: if she gets pissed by this answer and fights back more, she probably doesn’t want to sleep with you. If so, ghost her 100% and the odds increase that she’ll change her mind).

[–]Fonzoon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

wouldn’t “I don’t want to have sex with myself either” (ecks D) be a better way than that potentially fear-of-rape inducing answer be?

as for the general situation, I think a simple “I just want to get to know you better, you seem fun,” sounds better to me (if she actually is). it already seems like she feels he’s too persistent

[–]vapel1fe42069 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy Link

I just said "lol" and she said "We might as well be honest since I don't want to waste your time."

It sounds like she's just playing games, which I am not down for.

[–]htbf5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What's the point of asking advice is you're gonna go with that?

[–]Helmet_Icicle3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remove every last shape, form, and iteration of "lol" from your lexicon.

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus what are you doing?

That's the most butthurt response you could have possibly given...

[–]donkeydodo-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Say that you’re looking for something more but that you’re not cheap and SO anyone. She might take this as a challenge —> sex

[–]1redhawkes12 points13 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

First of all, slow down the neediness. Your texting reeks thirsty.

Second, she's not that interested, but shoot your shot.

"Im not that easy, you have to wine and dine me first.", after this, text her the logistics and see where it goes.

Reminder, don't get used as a betabux.

[–]vapel1fe42069 1 points [recovered]  (8 children) | Copy Link

How is this needy and thirsty?

[–]1redhawkes5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

"When are you free then?"

Never do the rescheduling if she doesn't offer one.

[–]vapel1fe42069 1 points [recovered]  (5 children) | Copy Link

So in the future if I suggest a time for a girl and she is busy and doesn't give an alternate time, just say "For sure" and end the conversation?

[–]1redhawkes4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's simple, really. Don't reward low interest, no reply / leave her on read.

Mandatory reading: The medium is the message, The Rational Male.

[–]thiikn0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have a quick one, please.

I told this girl we could have lunch together this Sunday, she said "she'd love to, but she has to visit her parents" (they live a bit away).

Now what?

[–]1redhawkes0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The ball is in her court. If she’s interested, she’ll initiate.

[–]htbf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't do that. I text whomever I feel like texting, whenever I feel like it. I don't care if there was no context, if we lost touch a while ago or if she ignored the previous message. I make my own reality and I project it to other people. They either fall on or they don't.

The idea is to learn not to invest in those messages emotionally which is easier said than done.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She should have come up with the date of a meet up herself after she said she was busy first time. If she didn't means she's not interested.

[–]throwawaybpdnpd1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with him, the second try shouldn't have happened; you should have waited for her to ask again.

She doesn't seem interested

[–]AscensionExperiments7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A&A would be fine, or a pressure flip.

[–]BusterVadge3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Who said anything about fucking?.... Slow down there tiger..."

That's what I would have used.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure someone will come up with a good line. Yours is probably fine too but not perfect.

Might be good to describe what kind of woman she is.

[–]vapel1fe42069 1 points [recovered]  (12 children) | Copy Link

A woman that is definitely not worth being in a relationship with. I've seen her get real close to cheating on her boyfriend (recently broke up with him).

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Meh half the time I go for the story instead of the fuck. I'd probably go for the kill and see if she bites.

"I want to fuck but will make you nutella on toast afterwards"

She sounds like a slut and bitches love nutella.

Also I generally don't wrap up but I always do with women who directly ask to be fucked early in the conversation.

[–]UniversalFapture13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

wrap bro

[–]dpgproductions5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Also I generally don't wrap up

Out of curiosity, why is that?

[–]Helmet_Icicle4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

To selflessly serve as an object lesson for other people.

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So he can end up as a statistic

[–]misls4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck her and that's about it, don't give her anything more than that.

[–]idontevenlift372 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If she recently broke up then she’s in all honestly just looking for attention/sex lmao the irony

[–]aanarchist9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just stop texting if she's not excited to see me I have better things to do than beg attention from a thot who's had 200 dick in her.

[–]BobLordOfTheCows14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I usually respond with "I haven't decided yet. You'll know when I do"

[–]A_solo_tripper8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

First, it doesn't sound like she is Crazy about meeting you. However, she is open to meeting you which is good.

This is definitely a shit test

Correcto!!

"Something might be coming up on Tuesday and I might have to bail, but were you just trying to fuck honestly or were you really trying to go out?"

Tell her you just want some company to chit-chat with at xyz.

Don't give the encounter too much weight, if that makes sense.

"Whoa tiger slow down, who said anything about fucking?"

You could say this. However, you might open a can of worms. Her: "well, that last couple guys I dated just wanted to fuck. I don't want to fuck anyone until I am in a serious relationship!" This would justify her turning into a crazy, clingy girl once/if sex occurred.

You could respond by saying that YOU don't sleep with women you barely know. Then, proceed to indirectly qualify her.

Good luck

[–]vapel1fe42069 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I said "lol" and she said "We might as well be honest since I don't want to waste your time."

No response? I'm still not too sure here.

[–]A_solo_tripper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep it real.

Let her know IN YOUR OWN WORDS that she seems pretty cool and straight up, and you would like for her to join you for a quick cup of coffee/tea. Let her know it will be cool.

Good luck.

[–]FKaroundNfindOUT4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"Wait... are you trying to get out of buying me dinner? If you're broke, I get it.. i like someone to just make me feel special before going after me like a piece of meat, ya know?"

[–]gijoemaximus2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Tried a variation of this statement on a girl once and she actually thought I was serious lol

[–]FKaroundNfindOUT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

she actually thought I was serious

..... you weren't serious?

[–]Jesus-slaves5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She wants to smash.

[–]omega_dawg934 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

first fuck up... don't stick your cock in a woman that's not sober.

in the late 80s... yeah maybe.

today... fuck no. broads are too crazy with the rape talk. she could get undressed, suck you and actually fuck you and still say she did it bc of the booze and didn't want to.

now WTF will you do?

[–]DeatCoreBoy118 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Yeah, but only if I really really liked you during our date hahaha"

[–]KitMindhead6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She isn't interested, next.

If it was a different situation and in person you got hit with the do you just want sex?

Answer "Of course I want sex, and I hope thats not all I want"

[–]ReformSociety7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Don't worry, I'm way out of your league."

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Just say : “ lol “ Dont say too much or you will look thirsty

[–]capodonca3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My instinct tells me to make her qualify to you. Something like this "if you make the right moves i"ll consider sleeping with you". She's lucky you noticed her.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So this one is on the fence.

I use the 80/20 rule. 80% of women are going to make you work for it and give mediocre experiences, be bitchy or dramatic. 20% of women are going to give you 80% of your good times, be mostly problem free, and way fucking hotter on the streets and in the sheets.

I'd tell this flakey half assed cunt she better get on board or fuck off. I don't have time for half assed non-commital shit. Tell her that as politely as you like. You should have better things to do. Say you are saving yourself for the right woman. That woman being one that gives to you, helps you coordinate when you will take her out, thanks you for the opportunity to have a man etc.

"We are going to have a drink or two, talk and see where it goes. If you turn me on I'll fuck your brains out" and she can stay if she makes me breakfast, but she's never staying again if it doesn't taste real good.

If she can't lay down a time, she's a waste of effort already and goes to the back of the line.

[–]ReformSociety0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I want to go out too."

[–]drnaline0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good answer you got there i heard it from rp.

These girls wanna orbit and shit test like mad then refuse. Go ahead with your reply bro.

[–]MrFiles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was thinking maybe you could just act like you didn't see it. Address her first question but not about fucking

[–]2INNASKILLZ2K180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

'Lol, I don't try that hard. And that's ok, but first round is on you. Let me know when you're free'.

Soft next. Confuse her and get her hamster running..

[–]0io-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Sure, I'm DTF too, why don't you come by and we'll go hang out afterwards." I once suggested to a girl that we get dinner and a movie, and she said why don't we just go to your place and have sex. I said, OK, sure, that works too.

[–]WoodWizzy870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

“Do you always switch the topic from drinks to sex any chance you get?”

Honestly though it’s a pressure flip. But she’s already catty about getting drinks, I’d just not even respond man. Too much drama

[–]Lukap2950 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Say both.

[–]latinasonly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

what do you guys think of responding " i just want to fuck "

[–]somebullshitrp0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Just send me nudes and save us both a lot of time"

But really, your response is pretty good. Whatever you do, don't answer her seriously.

On another note, if she's not going to make time for you in her schedule, she's not worth the effort.

[–][deleted]0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

“Next week”

You should of said “I can’t go next week, or maybe even the week after”

All of a sudden she’s competing for your time because you’re not available. IMO you should of appeared less available. The fact you are able to go out this weekend and a Tuesday shows you probably don’t do much.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Slow down tiger sounds terrible tbh lol. I would be like “Drinks sound nice but what are you trying to do”

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