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[–]MrStinky 12 points13 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That is the biggest difference between MRA's writings and feminists writings. Ours helps both genders. Theres vilifies one gender and exonerates the other

[–]afait -5 points-4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

A lot of feminists have the whole ending the patriarchy is a good thing for men, feminism is good for men and women, it frees both genders from gender role restrictions, etc.

[–]brosephthebroengine 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't listen to their words. Look at their actions.

[–]MrStinky 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nowhere can you find feminist writings that want to to a damn thing for men.

How is ending something conceptual -- that isn't a real, structured entity (as in doesn't exist) -- like the patriarchy, good for anybody?

Furthermore, feminists benefit from the patriarchy (subsidies, government spending, tax payer funded organizations, job appointments and quotas, ensuing nepotism, etc.) and men enable it by working to continue that middle class lifestyle for their "families" so they can pay more than their fare share in taxes, chase that ever elusive dragon and fund the exploits of feminists.

The idea of gender roles is also conceptual. Feminists want to redefine men to fit into feminists preconceive box so men can tow the line and keep paying taxes to fund feminists insanity. And who are feminists to define my masculinity? Who is ANYBODY to tell me not only to go against my healthy biological drives/impulses but be ashamed of them.

Fuck that!

[–]afait -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've read feminist articles, some of them linked from here, that say that feminism is good for both genders. Just search google for the phrase "feminism is good for men" and you'll find many articles written that come from the belief point of "feminist writings helps both genders", just like your own comment said "Our [manosphere writings] helps both genders". Feminists believe all of the things you wrote in this thread from their own perspective.

Your say the patriarchy doesn't exist in one sentence and then say in the next sentence that feminists (or just women) benefit from something that doesn't exist. You should say that the patriarchy doesn't exist, and using the concept as a boogeyman, feminists have created co-opted the legal system to benefit their gender at the expense of men.

Feminists also say the same thing about their own femininity. "Who are men to define my femininity?", feminists basically say. "Who is ANYBODY to tell me to not go for my instinctual hypergamous instincts? Why should I be ashamed of them? Why can't I go fuck 100 rockstar stallions just how I've always wanted to?"

In your anger and indignation you are becoming a reflection of the very thing you hate. The red pill is about the truth, don't let your hate blind you.

[–]MrStinky 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Relax there buddy.

I don't care that a feminist can claim that their ideology IS helping men. Show me WHERE it is helping men.

I can show you tangible evidence in the article linked that women need to reduce their delusions and act realistic in their pursuit of a man. A women has even written about it here, although it isn't a feminist publication per se.

I said the patriarchy doesn't exist as some organized, structured entity. It is conceptual. But the "concept" of the patriarchy consists of men. Feminists are always looking to blame men and they adhere strictly to the apex fallacy.

Nobody is saying that a woman can't define her own standard of beauty nor can she not go ride the cock carousal just because men may not like it.

Just don't expect... nay, FORCE me to believe that you are beautiful or desired. No. You are hideously ugly (IMO which I am entitled to have) but if feminists keep this up we will be penalized, punished and potentially jailed for not finding them as 10/10 women. Not to mention they would make a horrible sexual partner worth nothing above 4 or 5th position in my FWB rotation. I would never want a relationship with a woman who had a simple inability to show restraint.

In your anger and indignation you are becoming a reflection of the very thing you hate. The red pill is about the truth, don't let your hate blind you.

I don't hate anybody. I DO hate ideologies. And I feel no inclination to respect people who want to systematically penalize, punish and potentially jail my gender for simply being male. So don't tell me how to feel. Worry about your own life and I'll do the same

[–]The_Man_Radan 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This was a really good read. Not only does it separate the "smart" women from the type that is mentioned (by smart, I mean the ones that didn't fall into the trap of party, party, party)... but that both choices have equally good/bad consequences.

Thankfully trying to filter out those type of women is easy enough. It usually oozes out of them. 10+ years of weekend drinking definitely has it's physical "badges" attached to it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know a 21 year old broad who is always babbling about how glad she did the hard drinking hard partyibg lifestyle when she was in high school so she could 'mature' (aka Ride the cock carousel at a young age).

She looks about 28-30. Wrinkles, and she has that hard edge to her personality. Caked on makeup the whole bit. All that booze will definitely put ten years on a girl.

They lose that youthful glow to their skin.

I pity to poor sucker that puts a ring on that girl.

[–]TheIslander829 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

More gold from ROK.

[–]Piranhapoodle 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not sure why staying single is regrettable.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It seems predictable, but they regret it.

[–]Piranhapoodle 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Perhaps some find it more regrettable to give up their career and dreams in order to raise kids and make sandwiches.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh look a troll.

[–]zionController -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Tuthmosis is god mode

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sorry but this is awful. Does this guy even live in the real world? You can't just throw bullshit graphs (http://i.imgur.com/sb0Dh.png) around and pretend that they are grounded in reality.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hi you must be new here. "This is awful" isn't a good critique. Please try again.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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