The Parable of Mark and Lauren

blackhawksoccer · 2013-06-19T21:34:41+00:00

"Nice guys" are emotional sluts.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-06-19T20:52:44+00:00

I see what he did here.

yourlogicisflawed · 2013-06-19T20:44:11+00:00

This should be required reading, perfect analogy demonstrating the dichotomy between what men and women want out of relationships. Somewhat reminds me of the scene in Clerks when the guy learns how many men his girl has blown.

legendofpasta · 2013-06-19T21:28:37+00:00

Women I have dated have actually said this to me. "you don't just say I love you to everyone right?" and also: "yeah I slept with all those guys, but I didn't love them so it's different, it didn't mean anything"

I remember in high school and university a little "but I love you" was the key to last minute resistance. It wouldn't work now I'm sure, but back then ilu was a panty dropper

2013-06-19T21:27:24+00:00

This is the best material I've ever read in this subreddit.

At the moment, it's trendy to oppose "slut-shaming". I think it's useful to view the people who buy into this mentality into three distinct groups:

People who want to bully and shame men for having sexual standards
People who join in with bullies to feel powerful, rather than risk being bullied themselves and feeling weak
People who haven't given the topic much thought or energy, but hear "slut-shaming" and think that it just sounds so mean

This logic in this piece has a stellar chance of rescuing people in the third group. They could be made to see that the phrase "slut-shaming" is absurd; wanting a mate with fewer sexual partners just another preference, and it's a very reasonable one when viewed with an open mind. Obviously, standards don't have to be reasonable, but that's another issue.

I suspect the only way to rescue the second group is by standing up to the bullies—by showing everyone that standing up for yourself is what's truly empowering.

The first group is lost, unfortunately.

Edit: Grammar. Fuck, my grammar was atrocious.

maybestomorrow · 2013-06-19T23:47:56+00:00

Why should she be the one who has to pay by putting her valuable eggs at risk by taking his sperm in order to get the love and attention that the other girls got so easily.

I'm not sure how anyone can take the story seriously after reading that line in particular...

As for the actual story - both characters were manipulating each other. She 'gave' him sex in order to get love. He used 'love' to get sex. That's not a relationship, that's immature/emotionally damaged people messing around.

And yes I get it, showing sluts why men disagree with whoring about. Only problem is that in a decent relationship sex and love aren't commodities.

halfbloodprinceton · 2013-06-19T19:15:47+00:00

This is fucking genius.

I doubt women who read it will be able to make the connection, but it's still brilliant.

Stayinghereforreal · 2013-06-19T19:38:21+00:00

Holy mother of Jupiter that is brilliant.

James_Coook · 2013-06-19T19:52:29+00:00

I am going to make this required reading for my sons.

pitlord713 · 2013-06-19T20:47:10+00:00

The eternal fight

iseeyou1312 · 2013-06-20T03:55:00+00:00

Ok I am going to come out and just admit that I am slow. I am still trying to get this TRP wrapped around my brain. I still don't get how to read this. I get that it is a gender flip and a love/sex flip, but I see this as a put down on TRP men. Can someone help me out? Thanks.

ReggieReddit · 2013-06-19T21:23:33+00:00

Sidebar, NOW!

Mandeponium · 2013-06-19T22:42:31+00:00

Can someone explain this to me? As a man, what am I supposed to take away from this? What should Mark have done differently?