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[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 51 points52 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

Look at the comment asking her about her relationship with her father.

OP responds "Not very good."

Little by little, some men are awakening slowly to the signs of disaster, and they are steering clear.

Eventually, they'll begin looking for the right signs. And then they'll begin personally demanding them.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Little by little, some men are awakening slowly to the signs of disaster, and they are steering clear.

Eventually, they'll begin looking for the right signs. And then they'll begin personally demanding them.

Nope. The same guys will have completely forgotten about this the next time anything TRP related comes up and will start raging at us again. Human ignorance and stupidity is endless.

[–]drewbaccha 12 points13 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

I think the cognitive dissonance of some /r/askmen users is simply a utilization of tribalistic hierarchy.

Essentially it's safe for these men to utilize redpill knowledge so long as it's not labeled as such. They are, either consciously or unconsciously, distancing themselves from /r/theredpill in order to preserve their social status.

[–]MockingDead 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, it is askbeta...

Maybe we need a term Rationalization Mhamster

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Essentially it's safe for these men to utilize redpill knowledge so long as it's not labeled as such.

There's some sense in this statement. Apparently being labelled red pill in such a blue-pill dominated place as reddit is akin to a scarlet letter. Nobody is willing to risk completely abandoning the whiteknight dating planR because they still think it's supposed to work.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, there's a good number of RP ideas that I've picked up on. I just don't label those opinions as RP because TRP has other connotations and ideas than just things like "trickle truth" and whatnot.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

At the end of the day, what you recognize as reality will be unique to your experience. I don't think any two people here agree on everything, only some of the more common ideas discussed. A lot of stuff on here can be red-pill related but not necessarily be something I agree with. That's what discussion is.

Anyway, I think it's cheap to avoid the term alone because of culture's view on the term instead of what it really means.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

It's not just the term though. If I say I hold Redpill beliefs, that encompasses far more than just what I actually do believe.

Now, I think TRP (along with any other idea) should be able to be discussed in a civil manner. I helped make a sub that does just that. But if I were to want to bring that sort of thing up with people and discuss it based on it's merits outside of a select few subs I can't use the words "Red Pill", or other key words you'd see in the Red Pill lexicon. It'd be like saying "the Nazis had a few things right", even if you were just discussing their economic policies or something like that. People would jump straight up your ass for it.

So, basically, other users using "RP Knowledge" but not calling it Red Pill probably comes from the same place it does with me: I hold a few similar ideas, but far too few to warrant using the name, and even if I did use the name the conversation would end right there.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Eh, the only people I see trying to avoid the stigma of red pill still think that game is manipulation, which I figure are the same types of people who think that the world would be better if we just fed the poor people (without any understanding of the economics behind it). Young, naive, liberal college students.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I distance myself from TRP because I hold different views on certain topics. I'm not conservative, I don't think feminism endangers society, and I don't think that masculinity is as black and white as some make it seem.

I have opinions on all of these topics, of course. But they don't match up to TRP's.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 8 points9 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough. I just get wary of anybody allowing political correctness to have any part in their reasoning process. You simply can't arrive at any sort of fair answers if that's allowed to skew the results. Even if TRP is entirely wrong.

I don't think feminism endangers society

Speaking of which..

NOW Calls on The Wall Street Journal to Fire James Taranto: Taranto Believes Drunk Sexual Assault Victims are Equally to Blame

In his Monday Wall Street Journal column, James Taranto stated that in sexual assault cases where both the victim and rapist are drunk -- both parties are equally to blame for the attack.

[...]

James Taranto doesn't need a national platform for demeaning women and condoning rape. He has demonstrated how out of touch he is; now he needs to be out of a job.

What did he say?

Winerip notes that between 2005 and 2010, "more than 60 percent of claims involving sexual violence handled by United Educators"--an insurance company owned by member schools--"involved young women who were so drunk they had no clear memory of the assault." We know from Sgt. Cournoyer that the accused young men typically are drinking to excess, too. What is called the problem of "sexual assault" on campus is in large part a problem of reckless alcohol consumption, by men and women alike. (Based on our reporting, the same is true in the military, at least in the enlisted and company-grade officer ranks.)

Which points to a limitation of the drunk-driving analogy. If two drunk drivers are in a collision, one doesn't determine fault on the basis of demographic details such as each driver's sex. But when two drunken college students "collide," the male one is almost always presumed to be at fault. His diminished capacity owing to alcohol is not a mitigating factor, but her diminished capacity is an aggravating factor for him.

It appears a major feminist organization is leading a war against men, and redefining rape to hurt men. I will not agree that feminism isn't endangering society.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say I didn't have issues with things feminists do. Just that I don't think they're fucking up society.

[–]hashtagpound2point2 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It doesn't even surprise me anymore how much love RP knowledge can get when taken in small, subconscious doses.

[–]RedPillScare 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Homeopathic Red Pill

[–]ilike2partyhowaboutu -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Three questions you should ask every woman you are considering dating:

  1. "How much debt do you currently have?"
  2. "How well do you get along with daddy?"
  3. "Have all your ex boyfriends been abusive?"

[–]dsav2 26 points27 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I have some male friends who call themselves "feminists", but even they don't date sluts.

They talk about how they respect them as much as normal women, but never commit to them.

Men subconsciously do not want to date them no matter how much they say they respect them.

[–]BrianGoethe 13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Kinda like leftoids that are very careful to live far away from non white neighborhoods

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

'Champagne Socialism' as Nassim Taleb calls it.

[–]1whatsazipper 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Some of the more aggressive ones colonize and then displace the non whites, all while being PC! ;)

[–]pcadrian 18 points18 points [recovered] | Copy Link

This happens on AskMen all the time. I have often times been upvoted for giving "soft" RP responses. Men KNOW hoes, and they don't want to settle with them. I'm thinking it might even be instinctual.

[–]jamboy1 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You can't turn a ho into a housewife

[–]Sturmgeist781 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hos don't act right...

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Best part is when they say "I think this good" but then come back later "ugh, I saw his history. He's a RPer. Nevermind!"

[–]t21spectre 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Instinctual, I agree, prior to modern genetic testing in the last few decades I would assume for the prior 100,000+ years of human existence men learned to avoid women who slept around to avoid raising a child not of his genetics.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 33 points34 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Best part of this thread to me is that the only people spewing support are other women in the thread. I find it funny that in a place called Ask Men women still feel the need to come out and give their two fucking cents as if anyone gave a shit. Women are incapable of allowing a man to have his own thoughts. He isn't allowed to be a man and should be punished for trying to live life without a woman. They are so deathly afraid of us realizing how great life is without them they boycott every single men's only place in existence. Every time guys get together they attack in mass. But I have never seen guys out in front of curves picketing with signs. I've never seen them try to sue a group of women for having a women's only book club. Women are terrified of not being needed to make a man happy so they always have to try to be included in everything we do.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've always found it funny that feminists use the term "Boys' Club" as a pejorative.

As in, "Ugh, I can't stand The Red Pill. It's such a Boys' Club."

Women tend to get upset when men take them off the pedestal and find value elsewhere.

[–]ModAerobus 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ask Men women still feel the need to come out and give their two fucking cents as if anyone gave a shit.

This honestly is my #1 biggest problem with AskMen. There are a number of threads that touch on RP topics, and the responses are filled with women's hamstering. They need to ban women from making parent comments on the thread, if not all comments. That way women will be forced to look at the male perspective dead in the eye.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That way women will be forced to look at the male perspective dead in the eye.

You know what happens when you force women to look at the male perspective? They make a subreddit to mock it, and start a site wide propaganda campaign against it.

Just look at what happened to the red pill. It's no coincidence that we've crossed the feminine imperative and they are doing their best to dismiss us and shame us. If what we were saying had no value, we would just shrink into obscurity. But instead, they're fighting us tooth and nail. They cannot let this be. We're not reddit famous because I make front page posts about us. We're reddit infamous because they make front page posts to discredit us.

Who goes through that much effort to discredit something if it has no value to begin with?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Who goes through that much effort to discredit something if it has no value to begin with?

Methinks the lady doth protest too much...

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

perhaps we should ditch the buzzwords and just go among the crowd.

[–]1kick6 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

specifichero

As a person in your early 20's, I don't think it shows any negative traits at all. No need to judge, getting into a committed relationship takes a lot of attention and energy. Not worth it when you would rather focus on yourself and what you want to do, which may not always include a +1. Do what you do until you want to change it for yourself. There are probably plenty of guys you could find to be in that sort of situation with.

And this is why we can't have nice things.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trolls

[–]gopher88 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm shocked by the comments on this thread. You're in your early 20s! A TON of people in their early 20s have never had a relationship before. Just because you haven't found anybody that you want to commit to yet doesn't mean there is anything wrong with you or that you're undatable.

My favourite quote. The indignation is almost palpable.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Law 19: Know who you are dealing with.

Law 24: Play the perfect courtier.

Law 26: Keep your hands clean.

Law 38: Think as you like but behave like others.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Stereotypes exist for a reason fellas"

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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