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Attention new readers!

A guided tour of the sidebar made just for newbies like you.

A quick rebuttal of some of the arguments made against this community.


For those wondering what the hell is going on, a CMV thread mentioned us and then it got bestof'd.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 47 points48 points  (1 child)

These two paragraphs: RP vs BP in a nutshell.

What i SHOULD have been told is “hit the gym, build some muscle, guys with muscles are hawt” – “get braces now, you’ll smile a lot and we love guys with big smiles” – “go see a dermatologist, we love sexy skin on a man” – “cut off your long hair, you don’t look like a rocker, you look like a hippy. crew cuts are sexy, you’d look good in one” – “learn a skill and become good in it. become confident in it. we love confidence”

What i got instead was a constant drumming of “you’re such a good guy, just wait, someone else is out there for you” – “you don’t have to change a thing, you’re a wonderful person, just keep being yourself” – “you don’t need muscles, only jerks care about having big muscles” – “there’s nothing wrong with you, you just need to be a bit more confident that’s all” – “confidence comes from the inside, not from the outside”

[–]luiee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Solid summary. When you improve yourself, all aspects of your life improves.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Also, manipulated man for your end game...

getting out of incel is one thing, jumping into the plow horse role isn't an improvement

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[–]CQC3 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Been two years since I found TRP, I'd say I've internalized a lot of things pretty well. Would it still be worth it to read?

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I consider that book and her second one “The Polygamous Sex“ to be a mandatory read for every man.

Definitely worth the read, as Vilar's way of describing and drawing conclusions is so sharp it leaves you with an open mouth, that you weren't able to do it yourself.

You'll still have moments of epiphany reading them, although you've been here for some reasonable time.

[–]CQC3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After I posted that I decided to take a glimpse at it and ended up reading about a third of it. It's so incredibly succinct and articulate. Unlike this sub, which is focused on sexual strategy, Vilar focuses more on women as being useless with the exception of egging men on, and men as slaves that don't want to be free, so they intrinsically tie themselves to women. I mean, we all fucking knew it, but for her to put it the way she does makes the concept a lot more cohesive and less emotional but rather more like understanding machinery.

Just goes to show you can never know enough.

If we look at MGTOW in that context, we can observe how society will not let that happen so easily. Funny how all a man has to do is withdraw his time and commitment from a woman and that is his power, and likewise if he does the same to society, then it is just the same result but on a greater scale.

[–]1aguy01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the first chapter at least, she has a way with words that gets the points across in an usually clear manner.

[–]dates_only_chinese 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Especially for the time it was written in. Back then there was no infinite access to information, and what she described was the grand scheme of male slavery and the behind-closed-doors reality of millions of people worldwide. She was harassed and eventually severely physically assaulted by German feminist militias and had to flee to south America.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Everybody should re-read this once a year to remind himself of the long way he has come since finding this place.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don’t see equality around me. I see a fem-centric society that is forgetting the fact that men are HUMAN and respond emotionally to their environment and reality.

If we are going to teach our boys not to rape, we also need to teach our girls to treat men with respect. You have to give it to get it. To women I say this: Stop being so fucking “nice” about rejection. You’re not saving them from the despair of feeling inadequate, you’re distracting them from the reality that they have the choice to better themselves to succeed in life, and subsequently find that women are, in fact, attracted to them for that confidence.

[–]ShekelBanker 9 points10 points  (29 children)

The fact that I drew a lot of parallels with my life is scary as fuck. I am also going through a dry spell, one reason being I'm still affected by the death of my girlfriend, yes, even <2 years after it happened, but I also let myself slip into not giving a shit about myself. I personally did advance life-wise in breaking a cycle by moving into another country, but the job is a complete time-sucker which barely allows me time for myself, not to mention closest gym to my house and job (need the proximity because I have to be available at all times) costs a bomb (yeah, I make money, but not that much to dump 1/4 of my salary on a monthly gym pass).

[–]enfier 28 points28 points [recovered]

Fuck your reasons. If I pointed a gun at your head and told you I'd kill you if you didn't lift, you'd all the sudden find the time and money. Make it a priority. Cut the time from something else.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This reminds me of Fight Club.

[–]ShekelBanker 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Look, I would be able to say fuck it to everything and actually dump 1/4 of my salary on a gym pass, but the job, time-wise, barely allows me to. Only way I could get this to work is to find something close to where I'm operating with work, and that means, sadly, going to THE most expensive gym brand in the city and the country; the sort of gym that charges you in euros even if you live in a damn country that doesn't use euros. If I'd go the cheap way I'd have to risk in taking longer to show up to work.

[–]enfier 23 points23 points [recovered]

Then you'll need to do a body weight routine while you work through those problems and hunt for a bargain on a barbell and weights. Buckets of water might do in a pinch. It's a shit sandwich, but not insurmountable.

[–]ShitSandwichOfficial 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Glad I have your vote in 2016!

[–]Endorsed ContributorDownvoteToDisagree 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If your only option for the gym is that expensive, buy a set of adjustable dumbbells to use at home for $100.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Buy a kettlebell, probably 16kg to start. That one investment saves you a couple of years gym fees. Or Buy a copy of You Are Your Own Gym (paperback or ebook), or the ipad app of same, or a copy of Convict Conditioning. You can do it with no equipment at all.

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